Collective mind thoughts on food shortages.

[the_shootist]

Well now, I guess we can take this to the bank...

 

[the_shootist]

 

[specsaregood]

The way my mom grew up in the way that I grew up was you ate everything on your plate. Living through the Great depression taught them true conservation which was successfully passed through to me thank heavens.

That is how I was raised as well. However, it is also an important lesson to unlearn if you are overweight. Its a tough one to unlearn, to this day it feels wrong for me to leave anything even just specks on my dinner plate.

 

[newmisty]

That is how I was raised as well. However, it is also an important lesson to unlearn if you are overweight. Its a tough one to unlearn, to this day it feels wrong for me to leave anything even just specks on my dinner plate.

Excellent point something my mother and I both had to overcome was portion control. Neither of us are overweight but we can both suck down a plate of food!

Our biggest problem is being a workaholic and not eating enough throughout the day so when time comes to eat the body's starving

 

[Cigarlover]

thanks, I love doing poppers but I didn't know if they would freeze well. I'm anxious to try the pickled ones too. This is my first summer not working :)

Anything you want recipes for or want to know about is usually on youtube. :). I see frozen ones in the grocery store all the time so I figured I could do it at home. Just make them however you like them. Onto a sheet tray and pop em in the freezer until frozen. then transfer them into a freezer bag or bags. I have tried to do this a few times. Always end up eating them right away. Then friends find out and they come and before you know it, none to freeze. LOL.
A couple months ago I bought some Jalapeño powder from azure. Super expensive like 32 bucks a lb so I figured I would make my own this yer. Dehydrate the peppers and then grind em in a spice or coffee grinder. I do that with cayenne peppers as well. I imagine you can do it with sermons as well. Actually one of my favor peppers. Adds nice flavor to salsa as well as the right amount of heat for like a medium salsa. 10 years ago I had a bunch of them and dehydrated them. Filled 2 quart mason jars. Gave a bunch away and use them all the time in taco meat and chili. Still have some from 2012 that are going strong. That was from about 3 plants. Run the dehydrator outdoors if your going to do hot peppers though. You'll thank me later. LOL.

I haven't done the pickled jalapeños yet either but this year I definitely will.

Enjoy your 1st summer off. Once you get going you will wonder how you ever had time to work. :)

 

[specsaregood]

A couple months ago I bought some Jalapeño powder from azure. Super expensive like 32 bucks a lb so I figured I would make my own this yer. Dehydrate the peppers and then grind em in a spice or coffee grinder. I do that with cayenne peppers as well. I imagine you can do it with sermons as well. Actually one of my favor peppers. Adds nice flavor to salsa as well as the right amount of heat for like a medium salsa.

Thats what I do every year, but not just hot peppers, the sweet ones too. I just dehydrate all of them, grind em up together and put into a big shaker with some salt.

 

[Cigarlover]

Thats what I do every year, but not just hot peppers, the sweet ones too. I just dehydrate all of them, grind em up together and put into a big shaker with some salt.

That sounds awesome. Sweet peppers are something I never grow. I'll keep an eye out for them at the Amish store though.
This year I am doing a lot of Jalapeños. The most productive plant I will dig up at the end of the season and grow indoors all winter and then next year only grow that one plant and free up space in the garden for others.

 

[newmisty]

Anything you want recipes for or want to know about is usually on youtube. :). I see frozen ones in the grocery store all the time so I figured I could do it at home. Just make them however you like them. Onto a sheet tray and pop em in the freezer until frozen. then transfer them into a freezer bag or bags. I have tried to do this a few times. Always end up eating them right away. Then friends find out and they come and before you know it, none to freeze. LOL.
A couple months ago I bought some Jalapeño powder from azure. Super expensive like 32 bucks a lb so I figured I would make my own this yer. Dehydrate the peppers and then grind em in a spice or coffee grinder. I do that with cayenne peppers as well. I imagine you can do it with sermons as well. Actually one of my favor peppers. Adds nice flavor to salsa as well as the right amount of heat for like a medium salsa. 10 years ago I had a bunch of them and dehydrated them. Filled 2 quart mason jars. Gave a bunch away and use them all the time in taco meat and chili. Still have some from 2012 that are going strong. That was from about 3 plants. Run the dehydrator outdoors if your going to do hot peppers though. You'll thank me later. LOL.

I haven't done the pickled jalapeños yet either but this year I definitely will.

Enjoy your 1st summer off. Once you get going you will wonder how you ever had time to work. :)

That's what's up

 

[newmisty]

That sounds awesome. Sweet peppers are something I never grow. I'll keep an eye out for them at the Amish store though.
This year I am doing a lot of Jalapeños. The most productive plant I will dig up at the end of the season and grow indoors all winter and then next year only grow that one plant and free up space in the garden for others.

In my experience sweet peppers just don't produce the bang for the buck that the hot ones do. Is that also found true for you? I just can't stop rhyming and I don't know what to do! Fark!

 

[tigerwillow1]

Also, deer are very thick around us, so meat is always available.

I'm in the same situation, but figure if food gets scarce, those deer are probably going to get thinned down pretty fast.

 

[specsaregood]

In my experience sweet peppers just don't produce the bang for the buck that the hot ones do. Is that also found true for you? I just can't stop rhyming and I don't know what to do! Fark!

Dunno, I've had good luck with cubanelle/italian frying peppers. Always have to grow some so we can have frying pepper sandwiches.

 

[newmisty]

Dunno, I've had good luck with cubanelle/italian frying peppers. Always have to grow some so we can have frying pepper sandwiches.

Thanks for the tip. I've never even heard of them. I'm definitely speaking from limited experience.

 

[coopersmith]

You can also freeze jalapenos and serranos whole. Take out, thaw, and make into poppers. Bell peppers cut in half and cleaned out can be frozen as well.

 

[Cigarlover]

In my experience sweet peppers just don't produce the bang for the buck that the hot ones do. Is that also found true for you? I just can't stop rhyming and I don't know what to do! Fark!

When I prep I buy stuff I use. When I garden I grow stuff I will eat. Bell and hot peppers usually are what I eat most.

 

[917601]

Only 15% of the USA’s food supply is imported. Ceased exports of USA grown food can easily cover that shortfall. If there are food shortages in the USA it will definitely be engineered for political reasons.

Don’t bet on it. The drought is expanding east. Severe. Cross checking with the Ag figures, they state a reduction of 40 percent livestock feed.

Current Map | U.S. Drought Monitor

droughtmonitor.unl.edu

 

[andial]

Too many fatsos, bring it.

 

[Jarrod32]

Someone just told me about "dilly beans" - evidently you can can beans just like dill pickles. Add a little jalapeño to make it interesting.

The major advantage to this is the way they can be canned. Making dilly beans you are effectively pickling them, so you are able to can them with the hot water bath method which is much easier than pressure canning. Green beans (and corn) by themselves are not acidic enough to be water bath canned, and must be pressure canned.

Though freezing beans and corn tends to be an easier method of preservation yet.

 

[the_shootist]

Don’t bet on it. The drought is expanding east. Severe. Cross checking with the Ag figures, they state a reduction of 40 percent livestock feed.

Current Map | U.S. Drought Monitor

droughtmonitor.unl.edu

Hey numbers, long time man. Good to see you back and posting!

 

[Avalon]

The major advantage to this is the way they can be canned. Making dilly beans you are effectively pickling them, so you are able to can them with the hot water bath method which is much easier than pressure canning. Green beans (and corn) by themselves are not acidic enough to be water bath canned, and must be pressure canned.

Though freezing beans and corn tends to be an easier method of preservation yet.

one issue with this recipe is the beans come in early and the jalapeno peppers come in much later.

 

[CiscoKid]

None of this is accidental. Looking more and more like it is planned.

Australia Passes Bill Prohibiting Citizens From Growing Their Own Food And Expanding Federal Powers To Seize Livestock…​

VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA: Premier Dan Andrews is passing a bill that prohibits people from growing their own food.

The Agriculture Legislation Amendment Bill 2022 has had its second reading in parliament. Biosecurity is stated as the reason for changes.

Australia passes bill prohibiting citizens from growing their own food and expanding federal powers to size livestock…

VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA: Premier Dan Andrews is passing a bill that prohibits people from growing their own food.The Agriculture Legislation Amendment Bill 2022 has had its second reading in parliament. Biosecurity is stated as the reason for changes.— Apex World News (@apexworldnews) May 5, 2022...

centipedenation.com

 

[Casey Jones]

None of this is accidental. Looking more and more like it is planned.

And out of this, always, rises up a new figure. The center of a Cult of Personality - and almost-certainly, obsessed with garnering power over others.

Who? We probably don't know him, yet. Such people are always about. Lyndon LaRouche would have ridden this chaos into some sort of emperor-ship, had it happened in the 1980s. Douglas MacArthur would have loved his chance. Perhaps George Wallace, in the 1960s. To say nothing of all the failed painters, beat poets, rock singers doing club dates, that we've never heard of.

Corporal Adolf Hitler was one such failure - convinced his destiny was to be the next Monet, he went to Vienna to paint and live the bohemian life. Instead, he lived on the street, penniless...for lack of talent.

He discovered his transformational talents, later.

 

[the_shootist]

None of this is accidental. Looking more and more like it is planned.

Australia Passes Bill Prohibiting Citizens From Growing Their Own Food And Expanding Federal Powers To Seize Livestock…​

VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA: Premier Dan Andrews is passing a bill that prohibits people from growing their own food.

The Agriculture Legislation Amendment Bill 2022 has had its second reading in parliament. Biosecurity is stated as the reason for changes.

Australia passes bill prohibiting citizens from growing their own food and expanding federal powers to size livestock…

VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA: Premier Dan Andrews is passing a bill that prohibits people from growing their own food.The Agriculture Legislation Amendment Bill 2022 has had its second reading in parliament. Biosecurity is stated as the reason for changes.— Apex World News (@apexworldnews) May 5, 2022...

centipedenation.com

What does it mean when they say they 'passed a bill' in OZ? Is it now law or just another bill being passed along?

 

[the_shootist]

Putting all the pieces together makes for an interesting pattern, wouldn't you say?

 

[Avalon]

And out of this, always, rises up a new figure.

I suspect this is the one the antichrist will rise from.

 

[the_shootist]

I suspect this is the one the antichrist will rise from.

I keep hearing that term bandied about over and over. I do know what the term references being from the bible and all but, what exactly is an anti christ? What's the logical (logic is of little use when speaking about religion but work with me here) definition of an anti christ?

 

[tigerwillow1]

Australia Passes Bill Prohibiting Citizens From Growing Their Own Food And Expanding Federal Powers To Seize Livestock…

The media outlet originating this claim ought to at least include text from the bill and the logic behind reaching their click-bait conclusion. Yes, there's a link to the bill, The bill mostly amends another bill and without intimate knowledge of the other bill, there is no deciphering what this new bill does (which I imagine is exactly what the politicians want). Even with the text of this new bill available, it would take hours to fact-check the claim of prohibiting people from growing their own food. This should be researched and laid out by whoever wrote the article. Without that, this claim is no better that all of the random emotional tweets that are all over the place.

 

[andial]

I keep hearing that term bandied about over and over. I do know what the term references being from the bible and all but, what exactly is an anti christ? What's the logical (logic is of little use when speaking about religion but work with me here) definition of an anti christ?

What better way for the people to be shown than the anti-christ appearing and taking over humanity? Am I Right? Will you people just relax! Trump and the military are monitoring it all, in fact they have it all, round ups coming, be patient. Trust the plan.

 

[KnowWhy]

Too many fatsos, bring it.

If you don’t hold it, you don’t own it.

 

[Someone_else]

I suspect this is the one the antichrist will rise from.

"If you like your antichrist, you can keep your antichrist."

 

[Casey Jones]

I keep hearing that term bandied about over and over. I do know what the term references being from the bible and all but, what exactly is an anti christ? What's the logical (logic is of little use when speaking about religion but work with me here) definition of an anti christ?

The Antichrist...the opposite of the Christ (Christ is not a name, but Latin or Aramaic for "The Savior."

(Jesus of Nazareth was proclaimed, later, as the promised Christ. But his name, as on the tax roles, would have been Jesus, son of Joseph, of Nazarath).

The Antichrist is to prepare the way for Satan's onslaught.

How much of this do I believe? I take no stance.

 

[the_shootist]

The Antichrist...the opposite of the Christ (Christ is not a name, but Latin or Aramaic for "The Savior."

(Jesus of Nazareth was proclaimed, later, as the promised Christ. But his name, as on the tax roles, would have been Jesus, son of Joseph, of Nazarath).

The Antichrist is to prepare the way for Satan's onslaught.

How much of this do I believe? I take no stance.

Me neither brother, me neither. I guess I'm somewhere in the middle between the bible thumpers and the pagans!

 

[the_shootist]

What better way for the people to be shown than the anti-christ appearing and taking over humanity? Am I Right? Will you people just relax! Trump and the military are monitoring it all, in fact they have it all, round ups coming, be patient. Trust the plan.

With all due respect andial and assuming you might actually be serious ( a long shot at best), one thing I've learned in this life is, if 'it' seems too sensational to be true it probably is and 'it' won't never happen.

If I'm proven wrong (that would be awesome), so be it....I'll stand here and take my lumps. I just checked, no lumps so far!

 

[SongSungAU]

The media outlet originating this claim ought to at least include text from the bill and the logic behind reaching their click-bait conclusion. Yes, there's a link to the bill, The bill mostly amends another bill and without intimate knowledge of the other bill, there is no deciphering what this new bill does (which I imagine is exactly what the politicians want). Even with the text of this new bill available, it would take hours to fact-check the claim of prohibiting people from growing their own food. This should be researched and laid out by whoever wrote the article. Without that, this claim is no better that all of the random emotional tweets that are all over the place.

Agriculture Amendment Bill 2022

The VFF is aware of misinformation being circulated amongst the community regarding the Agriculture Amendment Bill 2022 which is currently before the Victorian Parliament. The VFF received a briefing from the government prior to the introduction of the Bill and the VFF understands the intentions...

www.vff.org.au

The VFF is aware of misinformation being circulated amongst the community regarding the Agriculture Amendment Bill 2022 which is currently before the Victorian Parliament.

The VFF received a briefing from the government prior to the introduction of the Bill and the VFF understands the intentions behind all changes to legislation that the Bill proposes.

The Agriculture Amendment Bill 2022 is a complex and varied piece of legislation that seeks to amend 11 separate Acts. There are a number of changes that the VFF supports including improvements to biosecurity enforcement.

Misinformation about the Bill suggests the authorised officers will be able to undertake searches without a warrant, without landholder consent and without the requirement to present identification. The VFF believes this misrepresents and misinterprets the amendments set out in the Bill.

We have been informed that further information is being prepared by Agriculture Victoria to clarify the provisions of the Bill. We will make this information available to VFF members once it is published.

VFF members seeking more information about the proposed legislation are encouraged to read the Victorian Parliament Hansard which includes the Lower House debate on the Bill from Tuesday 3 May.

The Bill and the Minister’s Second Reading Speech can be accessed here.

Further enquires can be directed to VFF General Manager – Policy Charles Everist on 0400199522.

 

[newmisty]

None of this is accidental. Looking more and more like it is planned.

Australia Passes Bill Prohibiting Citizens From Growing Their Own Food And Expanding Federal Powers To Seize Livestock…​

VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA: Premier Dan Andrews is passing a bill that prohibits people from growing their own food.

The Agriculture Legislation Amendment Bill 2022 has had its second reading in parliament. Biosecurity is stated as the reason for changes.

Australia passes bill prohibiting citizens from growing their own food and expanding federal powers to size livestock…

VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA: Premier Dan Andrews is passing a bill that prohibits people from growing their own food.The Agriculture Legislation Amendment Bill 2022 has had its second reading in parliament. Biosecurity is stated as the reason for changes.— Apex World News (@apexworldnews) May 5, 2022...

centipedenation.com

I would consider that a direct threat to my life and Liberty and proceed accordingly

 

[.41Dave]

I'm in the same situation, but figure if food gets scarce, those deer are probably going to get thinned down pretty fast.

During the depression, deer and other wild game nearly went extinct in large swaths of the country. There will probably be a lot of hungry, desperate and incompetent people in those woods if everything goes south

 

[newmisty]

During the depression, deer and other wild game nearly went extinct in large swaths of the country. There will probably be a lot of hungry, desperate and incompetent people in those woods if everything goes south

Aka Zombie Apocalypse

 

[Avalon]

During the depression, deer and other wild game nearly went extinct in large swaths of the country. There will probably be a lot of hungry, desperate and incompetent people in those woods if everything goes south

Everyone says if things get bad they will grow a garden , hunt and fish. Its not that simple. growing a garden and keeping it safe form weather, disease and predators can be challenging. It would take massive amounts of produce to freeze and can to feed a family through a year. As you said the deer will go extinct quickly and lakes will get fished out. When I went over Falls Lake the other evening there were 20 cars parked with people fishing over the side of the bridge. Another issue is the price of animal feed.

My chickens cost way more to feed than eggs cost in the store. I'm realizing its time to look at this from a more organic perspective. I need to learn to make my own fertilizer from chicken poop and figure out how to feed chickens without store bought food. Free roaming is not possible here but I'm sure there are solutions.

 

[newmisty]

.I need to learn to make my own fertilizer from chicken poop

1) Gather poop
2) Put in dirt

 

[Avalon]

1) Gather poop
2) Put in dirt

its not that easy. I did it once and killed my plants. I got to talk to the composting guy at the museum. He explained different compost to me. Chicken poop needs to be 50/50 with grass clippings and sit for a season while being turned on occasion. I'm thinking about a worm bed too.

 

[newmisty]

its not that easy. I did it once and killed my plants. I got to talk to the composting guy at the museum. He explained different compost to me. Chicken poop needs to be 50/50 with grass clippings and sit for a season while being turned on occasion. I'm thinking about a worm bed too.

Ms. Avalon, it sounds like you already know how to make it.