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CDC CHANGES MASK GUIDANCE AGAIN​

 

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It's a bit of an infomercial so buyer beware....

CLAY CLARK - THE PANDEMIC NARRATIVE IS CRUMBLING, WALLS ARE CLOSING IN ON FAUCI​

 
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God, let it be true.

But I have no assurance. Too often I'd heard these predictions - Cankles von Pantsuit, going to gaol. Trump gonna clean house. Gonna make the Chinese pay for what they did in Wuhan.

None of it happened. The opposite has happened and we're literally at war with Imperial Washington and its Green Red Deal.
 

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Flea market this morning. Only 5% wearing masks mostly elderly.
 

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Standing up: 1,000 lawyers and 10,000 doctors have filed a lawsuit for violations of the Nuremberg Code





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Consumer protection trial lawyer Reiner Fuellmich says agencies 'knowingly misled governments across the world.'

Background to the new Nuremberg Trials 2021 :

A large team of more than 1,000 lawyers and over 10,000 medical experts, led by Dr. Reiner Fuellmich, has initiated legal proceedings against the CDC, WHO and the Davos Group for crimes against humanity.

Fuellmich and his team present the incorrect PCR test and the order for doctors to describe any comorbidity death as a Covid death - as fraud.

The PCR test was never designed to detect pathogens and is 100% inaccurate at 35 cycles. All PCR tests monitored by the CDC are set at 37 to 45 cycles. The CDC acknowledges that tests over 28 cycles are not allowed for a positive reliable result.

This invalidates over 90% of the alleged Covid cases / "infections" detected by the use of this incorrect test.


Dr. Reiner Fuellmich sweden covid lawsuit

Trial lawyer Dr. Reiner Fuellmich
In addition to the incorrect tests and fraudulent death certificates, the "experimental" vaccine itself violates Article 32 of the Geneva Convention.

Under Article 32 of the 1949 Geneva Convention, "mutilation and medical or scientific experiments not required for the medical treatment of a protected person" are prohibited.

According to Article 147, conducting biological experiments on protected persons is a serious breach of the Convention.

The "experimental" vaccine violates all 10 Nuremberg codes - which carry the death penalty for those who try to break these international laws.

1) Provides immunity to the virus

This is a "leaky" gene therapy that does not provide immunity to Covid and claims that they reduce the symptoms, but double-vaccinated are now 60% of patients who need ER or ICU with covid infections.

2) Protects the recipients from getting the virus

This gene therapy does not provide immunity and the double vaccine can still catch and spread the virus.

3) Reduces deaths due to viral infection

This gene therapy does not reduce deaths from the infection. Double-vaccinated people infected with Covid have also died.

4) Reduces the circulation of the virus

This gene therapy still allows the virus to spread because it gives zero immunity to the virus.

5) Reduces the transmission of the virus

This gene therapy still allows transmission of the virus because it does not confer immunity to the virus.

The following violations of the Nuremberg Code apply:

Nuremberg Code # 1: Voluntary consent is important

No person should be forced to take a medical experiment without informed consent.

Many media, political and non-medical people urge people to take the injection.

They do not provide information about the negative effects or dangers of this gene therapy. All you hear from them is - "safe and effective" and "the benefits outweigh the risks."

Countries use blockades, coercion and threats to force people to take this vaccine or are banned from participating in free society under the mandate of a vaccine pass or Green Pass.

During the Nuremberg trials, the media were also prosecuted and members were killed for lying to the public, along with many of the doctors and Nazis found guilty of crimes against humanity.

Nuremberg Code # 2: Yields with fruitful results that cannot be produced by other means

As mentioned above, gene therapy does not meet the criteria for a vaccine and does not offer immunity to the virus. There are other medical treatments that give fruitful results against Covid, such as Ivermectin, vitamin D, vitamin C, zinc and strengthened immune system for flu and colds.

Nuremberg Code # 3: Basic experiments as a result of animal experiments and natural history disease

This gene therapy skipped animal experiments and went directly to human experiments.

In mRNA research used by Pfizer - a candidate study on mRNA with rhesus macaques monkeys using BNT162b2 mRNA and in that study all monkeys developed pneumonia but the researchers considered the risk low because these were young healthy monkeys from 2-4 years of age.

Israel has used Pfizer and the International Court of Justice has accepted a requirement that 80% of recipients with pneumonia should be injected with this gene therapy.

Despite this alarming development, Pfizer continued to develop its mRNA for Covid, without animal testing.

Nuremberg Code # 4: Avoid all unnecessary suffering and injury

Since the launch of the experiment and listed under the CDC VAERS reporting system, over 4,000 deaths and 50,000 vaccine injuries have been reported in the United States. In the EU, more than 7,000 deaths and 365,000 vaccine injuries have been reported. This is a serious violation of this code.

Nuremberg Code # 5: No experiment should be performed if there is reason to believe that injury or death will occur

See No. 4, based on fact-based medical data, this gene therapy causes death and injury. Previous research on mRNA also shows several risks that have been ignored for this current experimental gene experiment. A 2002 study of SARS-CoV-1 nail proteins showed that they cause inflammation, immunopathology, blood clots and inhibit Angiotensin 2 expression. This experiment forces the body to produce this nail protein that inherits all these risks.

Nuremberg Code # 6: The risk should never exceed the benefit

Covid-19 has a recovery rate of 98-99%. Vaccine damage, death, and adverse side effects of mRNA gene therapy far outweigh this risk.

The use of "leaky" vaccines was banned for agricultural use by the US and the EU due to the Marek Chicken study which shows "hot viruses" and variants appear... make the disease even more deadly.

Nevertheless, this has been ignored for human use by the CDC aware that the risk of new, more deadly variants arises from leaky vaccinations. The CDC is fully aware that the use of leaky vaccines facilitates the emergence of hotter (more deadly) strains. Yet they have ignored this when it comes to humans

Nuremberg Code # 7: Preparations must be made for even remote possibilities of injury, disability or death

No preparations were made. This gene therapy skipped animal experiments. The pharmaceutical companies' own clinical phase 3 studies will not end until 2022/2023. These vaccines were approved in an emergency

Use only action to force on a misinformed public. They are NOT FDA approved.

Nuremberg Code # 8: Experiments must be carried out by scientifically qualified persons

Politicians, the media and actors who claim that this is a safe and effective vaccine are not qualified. Propaganda is not medical science.

Many stores such as Walmart & drive-through vaccine centers are not qualified to administer experimental medical gene therapies to the uninformed public.

Nuremberg Code # 9: Everyone must have the freedom to end the experiment at any time

Despite the call from over 85,000 doctors, nurses, virologists and epidemiologists - the experiment does not end. In fact, there are currently many attempts to change laws to enforce vaccine compliance.

This includes mandatory and mandatory vaccinations. Experimental "sprayers" are planned every six months without using the growing number of deaths and injuries already caused by this experiment.

These update images will be administered without any clinical trials. Hopefully, this new Nuremberg trial will put an end to this crime against humanity.

Nuremberg Code # 10: The researcher must terminate the experiment at any time if there is a probable cause for injury or death

It is clear from statistical reporting data that this experiment leads to death and injury. But not all politicians, pharmaceutical companies and so-called experts make any attempt to stop this gene therapy experiment from harming a misinformed public.

Legal proceedings are progressing, evidence has been gathered and a large growing group of experts is sounding the alarm.

Video interview with head lawyer, ~54 minutes

 

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Crooked judges.

Just look at rulings coming out over the elections, Trump's legal EOs, Anti Fay, vandalism, police prosecutions, rioter non-arrests, borders...etc...etc...

Not just here. In every Western nation.

There is a time for law and lawyers. Now is not the time. Now is the time to LOCK and LOAD.
 

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Crooked judges.

Just look at rulings coming out over the elections, Trump's legal EOs, Anti Fay, vandalism, police prosecutions, rioter non-arrests, borders...etc...etc...

Not just here. In every Western nation.

There is a time for law and lawyers. Now is not the time. Now is the time to LOCK and LOAD.
Then I guess this will be for such judges to reach their final "come to Jesus" moment. Going against the Nuremberg code is automatically charge(s) of crimes against humanity as stated by Trump and Q. Lock and load is and has been a steady state of readiness for some for quite a while now. Those preps can and will remain in a steady state until such time as they go into action. Until then the bad actors have time AND mercy to "get to Jesus". Failure on their part will clinch their end. Time for them to "choose wisely".
 

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We've already seen how the International Court of Justice, the United Nations, the Nobel Committee, makes their rulings, judgments and decisions. The Brown Clown got an igNobel Pieces Price - before even being installed in office. Meantime, they were threatening Trump with arrest in Brussels - basically for Aggravated Trumpiness.

They ARE the Globalists, and they will rule in favor of what it is that destroys America, poisons Americans, weakens sovereign nations and ushers in "Global Governance." By, of course, them.

Come to Jesus? Maybe. Maybe not. A lot of Caesars' reach exceeded their grasp. Ol' Adolf came to a messy end. But Napoleon just went into what was probably a comfortable exile.
 

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Quoted from somewhere on the internet:

To all the vaccinated people still wearing masks:

Thank you for finally being honest. For a year you mindlessly repeated "my mask is to protect you, your mask is to protect me". For a year you screeched "trust the science". For a year you ranted that businesses must follow CDC guidelines because "private businesses aren't doctors, they shouldn't make their own health guidelines".

And in just a day, you've done a complete 180 on all of that. You say you'll continue to wear a mask because "it makes you feel safe". You, not others, you. Because deep down it was always a security blanket. You weren't wearing it to be a hero, you were wearing it because you were terrified.

After demanding for a year that businesses be forced to follow CDC guidelines or else be shutdown, now suddenly you think businesses should be able to ignore guidelines and make their own rules. Are you so blinded by fear that you can't see your own hypocrisy?

So thank you. Thank you for finally removing the (proverbial) mask. And showing it was never about safety, it was never about "the science". It was about crippling society and ruining countless lives in order to pander to your untreated neuroticism and all-consuming phobias.

And a bit of advice: No arbitrary amount of vaccinations, no declaration of herd immunity will ever make you "feel" safe. You need therapy. I'm not saying that as an insult. I'm not saying it to belittle you. I'm being serious. You need professional help to get over the mental damage this mass hysteria has inflicted on you. And most importantly, you need to let the rest of us return to normal
 

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Never fear! The cdc is looking out for YOU!

CDC ruling: You no longer have to wear a life jacket outside in case of rain





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The CDC has updated its guidelines and announced that you no longer have to wear a life jacket outside in case of rain. The guidelines had been put in place last year during a particularly rainy March, and although many experts had claimed we would just have to wear the life jackets for a couple of weeks, mandates remained in place for well over a year.

But now, even hardcore pro-life jacket agencies like the CDC have admitted it is time to take the life jackets off and go about our lives.

"Look, unfortunately, the rainy season is just about over," said CDC Director Rochelle Walensky. "We had hoped it would last forever, but even we must admit, you no longer have to put a life jacket on when going outside." However, the updated rule only applies to people who have taken swimming lessons at an approved swim lesson site. Still, many say this is progress over the strict and sometimes anti-science position taken by the CDC throughout the flood season.

"But we will still remain vigilant, and life jackets may become a seasonal thing worn every October through April to stay safe."

Despite the updated guidelines, many liberals announced they would continue to wear life jackets until the chance of drowning in a sudden freak flash flood hit 0%.

"This is way too soon," said Krissy Mackinaw of Austin, Texas as she watched people walk by without life jackets. "Look at these anti-science neanderthals walking around!" Her state of Texas removed the life jacket mandate several months ago, causing many experts to predict there would be a massive spike in drownings, but none of those predictions of doom came true. "You're all going to die!" she screamed at passersby as she put a snorkel on.
 

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Never fear! The cdc is looking out for YOU!

CDC ruling: You no longer have to wear a life jacket outside in case of rain





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life jacket
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Huzzah! Just stow that thing back in the closet.
The CDC has updated its guidelines and announced that you no longer have to wear a life jacket outside in case of rain. The guidelines had been put in place last year during a particularly rainy March, and although many experts had claimed we would just have to wear the life jackets for a couple of weeks, mandates remained in place for well over a year.

But now, even hardcore pro-life jacket agencies like the CDC have admitted it is time to take the life jackets off and go about our lives.

"Look, unfortunately, the rainy season is just about over," said CDC Director Rochelle Walensky. "We had hoped it would last forever, but even we must admit, you no longer have to put a life jacket on when going outside." However, the updated rule only applies to people who have taken swimming lessons at an approved swim lesson site. Still, many say this is progress over the strict and sometimes anti-science position taken by the CDC throughout the flood season.

"But we will still remain vigilant, and life jackets may become a seasonal thing worn every October through April to stay safe."

Despite the updated guidelines, many liberals announced they would continue to wear life jackets until the chance of drowning in a sudden freak flash flood hit 0%.

"This is way too soon," said Krissy Mackinaw of Austin, Texas as she watched people walk by without life jackets. "Look at these anti-science neanderthals walking around!" Her state of Texas removed the life jacket mandate several months ago, causing many experts to predict there would be a massive spike in drownings, but none of those predictions of doom came true. "You're all going to die!" she screamed at passersby as she put a snorkel on.


They forgot to add the approved swimming testing site is infested with great white sharks and piranhas.
 

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They forgot to add the approved swimming testing site is infested with great white sharks and piranhas.
Yeah. All the "life jackets" that were really just orange vests filled with cotton waste. While testing them in real waters, they'd soak up the water and drown the wearer.

Thousands of studies showing it. AND demonstrations WHY; and photos of REAL kapok life jackets, with the bouyant material wrapped in Mylar. Explantions why. Videos of how.

And still all the Rain Wardens demanding that ONLY fake life vests be worn during the "emergency"...
 

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CDC says dealth toll following experimental COVID vaccine now at 4,434

https://www.wnd.com/2021/05/cdc-says-dealth-toll-following-experimental-covid-vaccine-now-4434/



To put this number in perspective, since the CDC continues to claim that these deaths do “not establish a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines,” these deaths now exceed the total number of deaths reported to VAERS following vaccination for the past 21 years!
Imagine how different things would have been, had Trump just fired the Fouch, and made HCQ an over-the-counter medicine, and ordered emergency production of THAT? But he had to listen to the Wokesters and their tools, Fouch and the other quack.

Everything from our economy to the election would have gone his way. He really dropped the ball there, and the consequences were more than anyone could have foreseen.
 

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Imagine how different things would have been, had Trump just fired the Fouch, and made HCQ an over-the-counter medicine, and ordered emergency production of THAT? But he had to listen to the Wokesters and their tools, Fouch and the other quack.

Everything from our economy to the election would have gone his way. He really dropped the ball there, and the consequences were more than anyone could have foreseen.
That's one side of it. But the other side is what we are living through right now & people are waking up.
Collateral damage in was is inevitable. Can you blame him for their actions?

Getting back to normal is not an option even now.

I think that is why sportsball & no masks along with the woke going broke.
 

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That's one side of it. But the other side is what we are living through right now & people are waking up.
Collateral damage in was is inevitable. Can you blame him for their actions?

Getting back to normal is not an option even now.

I think that is why sportsball & no masks along with the woke going broke.
I'm not faulting Trump - he had to make decisions on who to believe, and hindsight is always 20/20.

But the fact remains, if he had done the opposite, we would be better off, and he'd still have the office.
 

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Is there a longer version of that hearing?

the bitchute link given in
They stopped the vaccine animal trials because the animals kept dying. WTF?


BTW, hurry up and get your jab, freeeeee donuts and shake shack burger.

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THE TEXAS SENATE ... Streaming Video ( part 1 of ? is about 48 minutes duration )
 

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Imagine how different things would have been, had Trump just fired the Fouch, and made HCQ an over-the-counter medicine, and ordered emergency production of THAT? But he had to listen to the Wokesters and their tools, Fouch and the other quack.

Everything from our economy to the election would have gone his way. He really dropped the ball there, and the consequences were more than anyone could have foreseen.
Why would Trump have fired the Fouch? Trump and Fouch are on the same team.
 

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Why would Trump have fired the Fouch? Trump and Fouch are on the same team.
I disagree. And the reason I do, is Trump proved his intentions and his abilities, in the three years prior.

All men have flaws. Trump had two glaring ones: He didn't understand economics, or how it interacted with his job as President. The importance of controlling the deficit at any political price. The importance of UNDOING the Financial Engineering that had been done - QE-Infinity, ZIRP, the Fed's machinations. He was on record as saying Negative Interest would be such a wonderful thing...ignoring what that would do, is doing (we have it now, with inflation) to savers and investors.

That's one. The other, as it came out, was his trust in modern medicine - the Doctor with the White Coat; the laboratory products. Trump came of age when the polio vaccine was new - it was truly a miracle; and that was just after the previous miracle of penicillin. So, he believed in the pharmacological industry and in vaccines - and after his quacks told him that HCQ was no good, never mind the positive studies in Europe and preliminary in this country...after he was told that, he focused on getting a two-year vaccine, which, again, the goons in white coats told him was possible...get it done.

It was his own mind's filter. Of course it was - there are undiscovered Jonah Salks out there, with the ability to engineer a vaccine...let's make it happen!

What he didn't understand, was the MORAL sea-change. Big Pharma saw the money they could make, and they went and demonized hydroxychloroquine, a drug with expired patents. A cheap generic drug, with no money for them.

THEN, with legal indemnity given, they saw this as the chance to conduct the world's biggest laboratory experiment. And maybe something bigger - we don't know and maybe never will. But the moral limits that controlled important men in the 1940s, are discarded today like so much trash.

This is why important officials need to have advisors, and not just one or two. To get past these blind spots and offer different perspectives. And Trump's people didn't see the danger there.

History is rife with such failures in judgement, such wrong decisions.
 

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Imagine how different things would have been, had Trump just fired the Fouch, and made HCQ an over-the-counter medicine, and ordered emergency production of THAT? But he had to listen to the Wokesters and their tools, Fouch and the other quack.

Everything from our economy to the election would have gone his way. He really dropped the ball there, and the consequences were more than anyone could have foreseen.
Gotta disagree Casey. Trump's actions here were predicated on numerous realities. First and foremost is that each and every adult in America bears initial responsibility for their healthcare choices. Americans were and are free to make informed choices for their healthcare. NO ONE is under force of law to accept ANY jab/shot/injection. How many have been forced to take the annual flu shot? What about all those evil, uncaring, selfish Anti-vaxxers? Notice they aren't being arrested, tried or jailed?

Trump or any president, including whatever the hell Captain Dementia is, could not and cannot designate the classification of ANY drug or medicine. No such authorization of power exists in the constitution nor could even the congress bestow such authority on ANY president.

Americans were told what Trump thought was the best medical solution and that was the HCQ. It was the top medical agencies and institutions and MSM that LIED and said HCQ was dangerous AND ineffective. Certainly NOT Trump's fault. The medical agencies and institutions and MSM AND pharmacies of America said and ENFORCED as widely as they could and then disallowed HCQ prescriptions and/or HCQ usage. These are the asshats, the sicko, psychopathic, murdering bastards to be blamed, NOT Trump.

Those who died from the so-called vaccines made their choice and sadly received the ultimate consequence of their choice. Yes, the harsh reality is that ALL ADULT AMERICANS still had the initial and fundamental responsibility for their healthcare choices. NO ONE had a gun held to their head to get the jab. ALL American adults had and still have the ABSOLUTE right to refuse ANY and ALL vaccines, real or otherwise.

You ASSUME that it would all have turned out differently had Trump become a dick-tater and ignored/overstepped constitutional limits that all would have been well. Yeah, right. Throw the baby out with the bath water. Screw the constitution! Trump knows better than the founders. He's a farkin' jeenyus! Sig hile y'all!

Yeah. No thanks.
 

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Those who died from the so-called vaccines made their choice and sadly received the ultimate consequence of their choice. Yes, the harsh reality is that ALL ADULT AMERICANS still had the initial and fundamental responsibility for their healthcare choices. NO ONE had a gun held to their head to get the jab. ALL American adults had and still have the ABSOLUTE right to refuse ANY and ALL vaccines, real or otherwise.
Pretty sure that is called "FREEDOM"! Well said Alton.
Except for the kids getting the jab and their parents are making the choice.
 

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If I had a tattoo the size of number two pencil end for every shot the government made me take, I would be covered from head to foot.

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Don’t mention Ivermectin for Covid-19; it’ll upset the vaccine rollout
Biz News ^ | 05/05/2021 | Andrew Bannister

https://www.biznews.com/thought-leaders/2021/05/12/mailbox-ivermectin/amp?__twitter_impression=true




By Andrew Bannister*

What if there was a cheap drug, so old its patent had expired, so safe that it’s on the WHO’s lists of Essential and Children’s Medicines, and used in mass drug administration rollouts? What if it can be taken at home with the first signs COVID symptoms, given to those in close contact, and significantly reduce COVID disease progression and cases, and far fewer few people would need hospitalisation?

The international vaccine rollout under Emergency Use Authorisation (EUA) would legally have to be halted. For an EUA to be legal, “there must be no adequate, approved and available alternative to the candidate product for diagnosing, preventing or treating the disease or condition.” The vaccines would only become legal once they passed level 4 trials and that certainly won’t happen in 2021.

This would present a major headache for the big public health agencies led by the WHO. The vaccine rollout, outside of trials, would become illegal. The vaccine manufactures, having spent hundreds of million dollars developing and testing vaccines during a pandemic, would not see the $100bn they were expecting in 2021. In a pandemic, and for the next one, we need big pharma to react quickly, and the best way to that, is to reward them financially. Allowing any existing drug, at this time, well into stage 3 trials, to challenge the legality of the EUA of vaccines, is not going to happen easily. On the 31st of March 2021, the WHO recommended against the use of Ivermectin for COVID treatment, citing safety and lack of large RCT proof.


The question of why the WHO would do this is difficult to answer, only if you ignore the importance of the legality of the EUA, and the time tested advice, of following the money. The WHO, a once noble organisation funded by the worlds countries, now receives less than 20% of its budget from member states. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is the second biggest sponsor after the USA. The GAVI Alliance, a private/public organisation promoting vaccines, was founded by Gates, and now pushing for vaccine passports, are the 4th biggest sponsor to WHO. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the WHO Director-General, served on the GAVI board for several years. The WHO, in 2021 changed the definition of herd immunity, to occurring only when the global population has been vaccinated.

The WHO has either made serious mistakes in their analysis or deliberately undermined Ivermectin and other early treatment drugs, in favour of vaccinating the world. Obviously this is a huge windfall for vaccine manufacturers, with Pfizer set to receive over a trillion rand from vaccines over the next five years according to Morgan Stanley.

In January this year, the several months long, Ivermectin research, meta-analysis of Randomised Control Trials (RCT), commissioned by WHO was released. The paper showed that Ivermectin reduces death by 74% and is 85% effective as prophylaxis. The trial leader, Dr Andrew Hill, was on Zoom meetings saying that governments should secure their source before demand outstrips supply and that it would be immoral, not to roll it out. The same month, two other independent, unsponsored meta-analysis confirmed a similar range of effectiveness at various stages of the disease. While effective at all stages of the disease, Ivermectin is most effective as a prophylaxis and about 80% in early treatment, depending on dose used.

The WHO currently have no advice or recommendation’s for early treatment apart from recommending against self-medication. If you don’t heal in the first week, when symptoms are generally mild, by the time you have to go to the hospital with breathing problems, your chances of dying have increased significantly. The use of Ivermectin and other repurposed drugs, could prevent that. As its safer than paracetamol, it should be available over the counter. As is happening in Mexico City and some states in India, anyone testing positive or feeling sick should take it, and give it to those they are in close contact with. It may be possible, if you want to attend a large social event or travel in a plane, that you take a pill, four hours before, and you will have significant protection for a few days. Lockdowns could end.

Ivermectin has been used in humans for 35 years and over 4 billion doses have been administered. Merck, the original patent holder, donated 3.7 billion doses to developing countries. 2015 the two individuals who developed Ivermectin were awarded a Nobel Prize for medicine. While known primarily as an anti-parasitic, Ivermectin has powerful anti-viral and anti-inflammatory properties. Its safety is documented at doses twenty times the normal. Only 19 deaths are known and side-affects are generally mild and short. As a comparison, approximately 450 US citizens die from paracetamol every year.

Merck’s patent on Ivermectin expired in 1996 and they produce less than 5% of global supply. In 2020 they were asked to assist in Nigerian and Japanese trials but declined both. In 2021 Merck released a statement claiming that Ivermectin was not an effective treatment against Covid-19 and bizarrely claimed, “A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies” of the a drug they donated to be distributed in mass rollouts, by primary care workers, in mass campaigns, to millions in developing countries. The media reported the Merck statement as a blinding truth without looking at the conflict of interests when days later, Merck received $356m from the US government to develop an investigational therapeutic. The WHO even quoted Merck, as evidence, that it didn’t work, in their recommendation against the use of Ivermectin. It’s a dangerous world when corporate marketing determines public health policy. Global vaccine rollout, to everyone, is the policy.

The vaccine rollout is worth about $100bn in 2021, and there may well be annual updates to deal with new variants of COVID. The WHO answers to nobody but its’ funders. Less than 20% of its budget comes member states, the bulk coming from other sources. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is the second largest sponsor of the organisation. GAVI, a vaccine alliance, founded by Gates and WHO Director General Tedros Ghebreyesus, served on its board prior to his current position, is the fifth largest contributor.

In March 2021, WHO said that Ivermectin was not recommend for the treatment of COVID outside of trials. They did this by ignoring their own months long, in-depth investigation by Dr Andrew Hill, that found Ivermectin was associated with 74% reduction in fatalities, and replaced it with a hastily done analysis that cherry picked from five, seven or sixteen trials (the report contradicts itself) but only cite 5 trails. The figures ,the WHO report supplies, show a reduction of death by 81%, but with a “very low certainty of evidence”. The WHO report didn’t even mention prophylaxis, where Ivermectin’s most effective, saying that fell outside its mandate. The WHO will not approve Ivermectin’s use, without it first proving itself in a large RCT. These trials cost millions and nobody, except those with a financial interest in vaccines, have offered to fund. The WHO are best placed to run large RCT’s on existing drugs, but haven’t done so with Ivermectin, despite it being over a year, since Ivermectin was proved to kill COVID in a lab. As only big pharma can afford the large RCT, the only drugs that go through the large RCT’s, are the new ones developed by big pharma, and become the only ones approved by WHO.

Almost every media house around the world has contributed to the marginalisation of Ivermectin. No mainstream journalists have investigated the evidence or questioned and debated scientists supporting it. It’s called an “animal drug” and dangerous. Ivermectin is seen as a repeat of hydroxychloroquine and not to be taken seriously. Belief in it, worthy only of derision.

On 10 December 2020, at the World Press Freedom Conference, an extension to the Trusted News Initiative (TNI) was announced. Founded to prevent false information around elections, the TNI, whose members are leading media houses: AP, AFP, BBC, CBC, European broadcast Union, Facebook, Financial Times, First Draft, Google, YouTube, The Hindu, Microsoft, Reuters, Twitter and Washington Post, were now extending that to vaccines. In a surprisingly underreported event, many of the world’s biggest media, agreed to promote the global vaccine rollout and focus on combatting the spread of harmful vaccine disinformation. While noble and well-intended, this has unfortunately led to a media silence on promising, early treatments that could significantly drop hospitalisations.

The March this year, New York Times broke a story, repeated around the world, reporting a trial that proved “Ivermectin had no effect”. The Lopez-Medina trial, published in JAMA, a leading medical journal, was held as the gold standard for Ivermectin RCT’s. In the trial, reminiscent of a “big tobacco” hit-job, vaccine manufactures paid the researchers (documented in the papers Conflicts Of Interests section). There are many faults in the trial. Among them, they accidentally gave Ivermectin to both arms of the trial and changed the trials primary outcome, mid-trial, three times. Normally, nobody would pay a trial any attention after these significant problems. As the trial was on a young heathy population, in an area with high Ivermectin use, freely available from the mayor during their first COVID wave, you were allowed on the trial if you hadn’t taken Ivermectin for 5 days, despite it’s effects being noticeable up to a month after a single dose. Surprisingly less than 3% of the participants had disease progression, against an expectation of 18%. The rare but specific Ivermectin side effect, blurred vision, was within 0,3% (11.3/11.6%) of both groups as were other side effects. The results were collected telephonically and no physical examination was done. From their result, with surprisingly few people having disease progression (some suggest that the trial inadvertently proves Ivermectin’s efficiency), it’s not possible to arrive at the conclusion that Ivermectin doesn’t work, which is what they did, and the media bought it.

Unless you know where to look, you will find hardly any positive information on Ivermectin. Social media makes it very difficult to say anything positive about it without the poster getting blocked from the platforms for lengthy periods. YouTube has made the promotion of Ivermectin, a violation of its policies. There is no public conversation in the media about it. It’s just ignored. Respectable medical journals are sitting with piles of Ivermectin papers on their desks that they refuse to publish without providing reason, despite at least one of them having passed peer review by two FDA reviewers. The book “Manufacturing of Consent” comes to mind where Chomsky and Herman look at how mass media serves the rich. It’s a David against Goliath fight, a cheap generic vs Big Pharma.

There are now 27 RCT’s, about 7 meta -analysis and many observational trials, that show Ivermectin works. There is very little evidence that it doesn’t work. The WHO were very sparse in detail and process, in their recommendation against its use. New research from the All India Institute of Medical Science (AIIMS), on a group of over 3500 health care workers, using two doses of Ivermectin as prophylactic, reduced cases among health care workers by 83% in the following month. Mexico City has for several months been using a test and treat with Ivermectin strategy. A research paper by Mexico City Health, claims that, depending on dosing, they have reduced hospitalisations by 56-73%. India in its current destructive wave, has just taken the example set by its two most successful states, and authorised the use of Ivermectin in early treatment. Doctors who use it, swear by it. As for more proof, the Gates/Together trial is ongoing, but given Gates’s large investments in vaccines, its results, already mistrusted. In Goa they have just authorised giving Ivermectin to everyone who tests, not waiting for a result. If Ivermectin works, it should soon be clearly seen unless the “Ivermectin is dangerous” group wins. We need more studies, especially on higher dosing, but we know it’s safe, so no need to wait.

Ultimately what this means, is that if Ivermectin and other repurposed drugs (like the promising anti-depressant Fluvoxamine), work for early treatment, you won’t have to use a vaccine, that’s still in trial, with unknown long-term safety or ability to treat future variants, and for which, the manufactures accept no liability.

In case you get sick, keep Ivermectin close by for early, household treatment, and you will prevent viral replication early and almost certainly, avoid hospital. You would have also built an immune response that will provide natural protection against future infections. Its wide-spread use, should dampen waves of disease, while vaccines can use this time to prove themselves, with long term safety and efficiency.

  • Andrew Bannister says “I can provide proof for everything I have written” and was last published 30 years ago in the medical journal Lancet.

Read also:



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scientific articles and studies EXPLAINING the antiviral effects of Ivermectin.

See here:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32533071/



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Here’s the initial study that opened the eyes of many clinicians:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scien...ses,normal, more efficient antiviral response.


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On “doesn’t work”, this needs to be on every Ivermectin thread:

Ivermectin for COVID-19: real-time meta analysis of 55 studies

https://ivmmeta.com/
 

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Yeah. All the "life jackets" that were really just orange vests filled with cotton waste. While testing them in real waters, they'd soak up the water and drown the wearer.

Thousands of studies showing it. AND demonstrations WHY; and photos of REAL kapok life jackets, with the bouyant material wrapped in Mylar. Explantions why. Videos of how.

And still all the Rain Wardens demanding that ONLY fake life vests be worn during the "emergency"...

I'm subject to disabling leg cramps when swimming, so I always wear a vest in (or on) the water - not the "orange vests" but the "water-skiing vests"... Saved my life more times than I can count...
 

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This thread is just like football. Everyone is Monday morning QBing what the quarterback 'should' have done.

There's a saying "Don't 'should' on me." in some addiction circles.

Yes, things 'could' have been done differently, but what was done was done with the information at hand in a lake full of invisible alligators.

Remember? There's a war going on and it's not your typical bullets, bloodshed and mayhem.

I hope we all here know that there is a deep state? That China Joe is a puppet? That Trump was not "one of them" - reason they pushed back on him for 4 years - they never thought she would lose! In fact I never saw such pushback on a POTUS ever. Fake investigations. Fake Impeachments. Turncoats in his cabinet. Infamous media leaks. Made up news stories presenting him in a terrible light. Congress against his every move. The guy could do nothing correct. If one didn't know better he was a "Joe Biden in drag". Now juxtapose Trump's media with Joe's media. Notice any difference?

What do we now know because of Trump?

1. Elections are rigged. Not just 'rigged' but REALLY rigged and not once in a while happenstance, they've been rigged since HWB was chosen. Heck you could go all the way back to LBJ...!

2. The WHO (who gave them any power anyway?) is a NGO that gets funding, millions in funding and there's no oversight.

3. The CDC is in bed with the deep state and NOT looking out for OUR (we da people) interests. Although they've been masquerading as such.

4. The D party used to be for the people, the little guy, but along the way that ideal turned into Marxist Communism and they've infiltrated the school system with their anti-American ideas. It's not as if we've never been told.

"Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted." Vladimir Lenin​
"Only a fool would let his enemy teach his children." Malcolm X​

The true role of government would be to prevent such happenings.

5. The R party used to be for the elite, but that doesn't hold true anymore. They've blended with the D party CON.

6. The media is propaganda from the gitgo. Nothing they portray is factual.

7. The FBI and the CIA are corrupt to the core. They spy on the world and infiltrate where they have no charter.

8. The SCOTUS is corrupt.

9. Congress is corrupt... most of them, not all.

10, Deep State Pedophilia is their weapon of corruption.

11. China has way more influence in US politics than is necessary.

12. Trump hung Andrew Jackson and Lincoln portraits for a reason that most everyone 'missed'.

13. Trump was FOR America and his being in office exposed them all for what they are.

I'm sure everyone here can (and could) add to this list - these are just off the top of my head.


Also this is the Corona Virus Thread and we're getting off track. This could be put into a whole 'nother thread.
 

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This thread is just like football. Everyone is Monday morning QBing what the quarterback 'should' have done.

There's a saying "Don't 'should' on me." in some addiction circles.

Yes, things 'could' have been done differently, but what was done was done with the information at hand in a lake full of invisible alligators.

Remember? There's a war going on and it's not your typical bullets, bloodshed and mayhem.

I hope we all here know that there is a deep state? That China Joe is a puppet? That Trump was not "one of them" - reason they pushed back on him for 4 years - they never thought she would lose! In fact I never saw such pushback on a POTUS ever. Fake investigations. Fake Impeachments. Turncoats in his cabinet. Infamous media leaks. Made up news stories presenting him in a terrible light. Congress against his every move. The guy could do nothing correct. If one didn't know better he was a "Joe Biden in drag". Now juxtapose Trump's media with Joe's media. Notice any difference?

What do we now know because of Trump?

1. Elections are rigged. Not just 'rigged' but REALLY rigged and not once in a while happenstance, they've been rigged since HWB was chosen. Heck you could go all the way back to LBJ...!

2. The WHO (who gave them any power anyway?) is a NGO that gets funding, millions in funding and there's no oversight.

3. The CDC is in bed with the deep state and NOT looking out for OUR (we da people) interests. Although they've been masquerading as such.

4. The D party used to be for the people, the little guy, but along the way that ideal turned into Marxist Communism and they've infiltrated the school system with their anti-American ideas. It's not as if we've never been told.

"Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted." Vladimir Lenin​
"Only a fool would let his enemy teach his children." Malcolm X​

The true role of government would be to prevent such happenings.

5. The R party used to be for the elite, but that doesn't hold true anymore. They've blended with the D party CON.

6. The media is propaganda from the gitgo. Nothing they portray is factual.

7. The FBI and the CIA are corrupt to the core. They spy on the world and infiltrate where they have no charter.

8. The SCOTUS is corrupt.

9. Congress is corrupt... most of them, not all.

10, Deep State Pedophilia is their weapon of corruption.

11. China has way more influence in US politics than is necessary.

12. Trump hung Andrew Jackson and Lincoln portraits for a reason that most everyone 'missed'.

13. Trump was FOR America and his being in office exposed them all for what they are.

I'm sure everyone here can (and could) add to this list - these are just off the top of my head.


Also this is the Corona Virus Thread and we're getting off track. This could be put into a whole 'nother thread.
No argument. At the end of the day he did much more for America than any previous POTUS in the last >80 years.

I'm curious to hear his explanation of his push for the vaccines even after it was widely known they were dangerous if ( huge IF) and when a change occurs and the commies are removed from power .
 

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Ivermectin defeats Covid just as Colliodal Silver promotes a strong immunity system. In other words, Ivermectin and Colloidal Silver both work, both are very inexpensive and for those reasons it has been attacked and demonized. The use of both robs the drug dealers ( big Pharma) of profits, and increases human resistance to disease and infections.
 

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The use of both robs the drug dealers ( big Pharma) of profits, and increases human resistance to disease and infections.
Imho, "robs" is the wrong word because it makes it sound as though they were somehow entitled to those profits.
 

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Ivermectin defeats Covid just as Colliodal Silver promotes a strong immunity system. In other words, Ivermectin and Colloidal Silver both work, both are very inexpensive and for those reasons it has been attacked and demonized. The use of both robs the drug dealers ( big Pharma) of profits, and increases human resistance to disease and infections.
Ivermectin is far better than nothing; but as they're finding in India, it's nowhere near totally effective.

What WAS almost 100 percent, they banned. HCQ. India, I've read, is now looking into "malaria drugs." What it is, is they're trying to find a way to use HCQ without pissing off the World Bank, WHO, UNICEF, and all the other pro-covid Globalist plutocrats.