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Now that the stimulus is out in the open (which contains mechanisms to end the FED and switch us all over to the new improved and terrifying technocratic system of control....all planned in advance of course), this "threat" will mysteriously vanish in weeks, if not days.
Because the cure for this threat has already been in place for some time. There are no coincidences! Nothing can stop what's coming!
 
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Please post a link to the Q thread and ID the relevant posts. I think it's no coincidence that NYC, LA and Silicon Valley are getting it the worst.
 

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I'm leaning toward this belief more every day. Trump knows he's declaring bankruptcy...so he doesn't care how much the relief package is. It's a win for him in Nov.
I don't know anything about international business, but if we rebound and still have a strong economy, what harm would it do if we defaulted on the debt? Just did a reset and got rid of the Fed? No more interest, no more CB, no more growing national debt....well....maybe.
 

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S Korea has 50 million people. How do they only have 9k cases? Kimchee?
Competent response, heavy and quick testing, strong targeted isolation, and disinfecting programs.
 

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I think he's making the analogy that Jesus was resurrected on easter and he wants the US to be resurrected by then as well. In other words, the worst is behind us and we start getting back to work.

The fed will come to an end one day. Not sure on the timeline but Aaron Russo laid it out pretty well and got the information straight from the horses mouth. The end game is total control via everyone getting chipped and doing away with money.

12 months from now seems a bit aggressive for an end date since they cant stop hackers from hacking into about anything right now. Pretty sure it wouldn't work so well if they tried to launch something like that now. It's not a world I want to live in and no human who values freedom should want that.
 

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Just left the DMV in a very small town in Arkansas. They had three chairs spaced 8 to 10 ft apart with signs requiring social distancing.
 

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The Hag once again demonstrates her concern for the American people

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and please don't take any advice from a Traitor who's so incompetent, she, along with her team, lost a rigged election

to a non-politician, and she still hasn't taken responsibility for the loss, nor acceptance of it either
 

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The WSJ article snatched from archive.today.

Is the Coronavirus as Deadly as They Say?
Current estimates about the Covid-19 fatality rate may be too high by orders of magnitude.



By
Eran Bendavid and
Jay Bhattacharya
March 24, 2020 6:21 pm ET

A line at an emergency room in Brooklyn, N.Y., March 19.
PHOTO: ANDREW KELLY/REUTERS
If it’s true that the novel coronavirus would kill millions without shelter-in-place orders and quarantines, then the extraordinary measures being carried out in cities and states around the country are surely justified. But there’s little evidence to confirm that premise—and projections of the death toll could plausibly be orders of magnitude too high.
Fear of Covid-19 is based on its high estimated case fatality rate—2% to 4% of people with confirmed Covid-19 have died, according to the World Health Organization and others. So if 100 million Americans ultimately get the disease, two million to four million could die. We believe that estimate is deeply flawed. The true fatality rate is the portion of those infected who die, not the deaths from identified positive cases.
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The latter rate is misleading because of selection bias in testing. The degree of bias is uncertain because available data are limited. But it could make the difference between an epidemic that kills 20,000 and one that kills two million. If the number of actual infections is much larger than the number of cases—orders of magnitude larger—then the true fatality rate is much lower as well. That’s not only plausible but likely based on what we know so far.
Population samples from China, Italy, Iceland and the U.S. provide relevant evidence. On or around Jan. 31, countries sent planes to evacuate citizens from Wuhan, China. When those planes landed, the passengers were tested for Covid-19 and quarantined. After 14 days, the percentage who tested positive was 0.9%. If this was the prevalence in the greater Wuhan area on Jan. 31, then, with a population of about 20 million, greater Wuhan had 178,000 infections, about 30-fold more than the number of reported cases. The fatality rate, then, would be at least 10-fold lower than estimates based on reported cases.


Next, the northeastern Italian town of Vò, near the provincial capital of Padua. On March 6, all 3,300 people of Vò were tested, and 90 were positive, a prevalence of 2.7%. Applying that prevalence to the whole province (population 955,000), which had 198 reported cases, suggests there were actually 26,000 infections at that time. That’s more than 130-fold the number of actual reported cases. Since Italy’s case fatality rate of 8% is estimated using the confirmed cases, the real fatality rate could in fact be closer to 0.06%.
In Iceland, deCode Genetics is working with the government to perform widespread testing. In a sample of nearly 2,000 entirely asymptomatic people, researchers estimated disease prevalence of just over 1%. Iceland’s first case was reported on Feb. 28, weeks behind the U.S. It’s plausible that the proportion of the U.S. population that has been infected is double, triple or even 10 times as high as the estimates from Iceland. That also implies a dramatically lower fatality rate.
The best (albeit very weak) evidence in the U.S. comes from the National Basketball Association. Between March 11 and 19, a substantial number of NBA players and teams received testing. By March 19, 10 out of 450 rostered players were positive. Since not everyone was tested, that represents a lower bound on the prevalence of 2.2%. The NBA isn’t a representative population, and contact among players might have facilitated transmission. But if we extend that lower-bound assumption to cities with NBA teams (population 45 million), we get at least 990,000 infections in the U.S. The number of cases reported on March 19 in the U.S. was 13,677, more than 72-fold lower. These numbers imply a fatality rate from Covid-19 orders of magnitude smaller than it appears.
How can we reconcile these estimates with the epidemiological models? First, the test used to identify cases doesn’t catch people who were infected and recovered. Second, testing rates were woefully low for a long time and typically reserved for the severely ill. Together, these facts imply that the confirmed cases are likely orders of magnitude less than the true number of infections. Epidemiological modelers haven’t adequately adapted their estimates to account for these factors.
The epidemic started in China sometime in November or December. The first confirmed U.S. cases included a person who traveled from Wuhan on Jan. 15, and it is likely that the virus entered before that: Tens of thousands of people traveled from Wuhan to the U.S. in December. Existing evidence suggests that the virus is highly transmissible and that the number of infections doubles roughly every three days. An epidemic seed on Jan. 1 implies that by March 9 about six million people in the U.S. would have been infected. As of March 23, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there were 499 Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. If our surmise of six million cases is accurate, that’s a mortality rate of 0.01%, assuming a two week lag between infection and death. This is one-tenth of the flu mortality rate of 0.1%. Such a low death rate would be cause for optimism.

This does not make Covid-19 a nonissue. The daily reports from Italy and across the U.S. show real struggles and overwhelmed health systems. But a 20,000- or 40,000-death epidemic is a far less severe problem than one that kills two million. Given the enormous consequences of decisions around Covid-19 response, getting clear data to guide decisions now is critical. We don’t know the true infection rate in the U.S. Antibody testing of representative samples to measure disease prevalence (including the recovered) is crucial. Nearly every day a new lab gets approval for antibody testing, so population testing using this technology is now feasible.
If we’re right about the limited scale of the epidemic, then measures focused on older populations and hospitals are sensible. Elective procedures will need to be rescheduled. Hospital resources will need to be reallocated to care for critically ill patients. Triage will need to improve. And policy makers will need to focus on reducing risks for older adults and people with underlying medical conditions.
A universal quarantine may not be worth the costs it imposes on the economy, community and individual mental and physical health. We should undertake immediate steps to evaluate the empirical basis of the current lockdowns.
Dr. Bendavid and Dr. Bhattacharya are professors of medicine at Stanford. Neeraj Sood contributed to this article.
 

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Like I said in the beginning. way overblown response. Trump should make 55 and over stay at home, collect unemployment if they are laid off and get this country back to work. Nancy can then go home with her tail between her legs since we don't need no stinking bailout anymore.
 

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The CCPVirus Updates
"What do you mean the U.S. started the virus?!"
 

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Should I feel safer now?
I don't think so. The way I read it, the perp had no bomb and apparently did not have the knowledge to make one. So the FBI offered him a fake to speed things up. Then it got violent, and perp died. "Yay, FBI!!! You saved us again!!!"

I am waiting for the story where the perp builds a real {terror something} on his own, and the FBI stops him in time. All the stories I have read seem to be entrapment solely for PR value.
 

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There's no doubt COVID-19 is having a huge impact on us all. At The Perth Mint, our focus is on the health and wellbeing of our staff as well as the continued service to our customers throughout Australia and beyond.

In the past few weeks, we have introduced rolling shifts across dual sites to ensure safe distancing between our employees as well as adopting remote working options and increased hygiene practices in accordance with current government guidelines.

As the inaugural producer of the official Australian bullion coin program, we are experiencing high demand for our products. Our precious metal volumes remain high, though there may be some delays and temporary shortages of specific items we manufacture. Our production teams are working tirelessly to meet customer demand, so please be patient if a particular item that you are after is delayed.

The Perth Mint has been proudly operating since 1899 and we take our responsibility as one of Australia's largest exporters seriously. We fully intend to continue our service to all customers throughout this period. Together, we know we will all get through this.

As a State Government trading enterprise, all our operations are guaranteed by the State of Western Australia. This is your assurance of trust in us and our unflagging commitment to you.

From all of us here at The Perth Mint, we want to extend strength and good health to everyone around the world during this challenging time. We thank you for your continued support.

Neil Vance, General Manager, Minted Products
 

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Edit = returning Scorpio's precious bandwidth he says I've been wasting - should make it easier to delete all my posts & attachments in bulk...
 
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On the French news tonight I saw footage from a hospital in Spain... hallway with long row of people sitting in chairs on one side, the other side had people lying on mats on the floor...
That's the "Free Socialized Medicine For All" that the left wants... Not only isn't it "free" (France's taxes on healthcare are the highest in the world), but even when it's running without a "pandemic", when you need a "specialist", ANY specialist, 1st you have to find one who accepts new patients, then it's 3-4 months wait for your appointment... And it's not as if that money went to the heathcare professionals - pay scale for nurses in France ranks 29th in the world...
Mmmm socialism. The land of dead unicorns and black rainbows.
 

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Quoted from the link - actually the first sentence !
"A teenage boy who tested positive for COVID-19 died in Lancaster, California, after being denied service at an urgent care center because he did not have health insurance."

I think, in the name of "insurance", we should rename the Hippocratic Oath the "Hippocritic Oaf"
Where does it say anything about INSURANCE, that you have it or you don't have it ?

Hippocratic Oath: One of the oldest binding documents in history, the Oath written by Hippocrates is still held sacred by physicians: to treat the ill to the best of one's ability, to preserve a patient's privacy, to teach the secrets of medicine to the next generation, and so on.

There are many versions of the Hippocratic Oath. We here present two versions. First, the "classic" version (or more precisely, one translation of the original oath). And then, following it, is presented one of the fine "modern" versions of the Hippocratic Oath.

Classic Version of the Hippocratic Oath

I swear by Apollo Physician and Asclepius and Hygieia and Panaceia and all the gods and goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will fulfil according to my ability and judgment this oath and this covenant:

To hold him who has taught me this art as equal to my parents and to live my life in partnership with him, and if he is in need of money to give him a share of mine, and to regard his offspring as equal to my brothers in male lineage and to teach them this art - if they desire to learn it - without fee and covenant; to give a share of precepts and oral instruction and all the other learning to my sons and to the sons of him who has instructed me and to pupils who have signed the covenant and have taken an oath according to the medical law, but no one else.

I will apply dietetic measures for the benefit of the sick according to my ability and judgment; I will keep them from harm and injustice.

I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody who asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. Similarly I will not give to a woman an abortive remedy. In purity and holiness I will guard my life and my art.

I will not use the knife, not even on sufferers from stone, but will withdraw in favor of such men as are engaged in this work.

Whatever houses I may visit, I will come for the benefit of the sick, remaining free of all intentional injustice, of all mischief and in particular of sexual relations with both female and male persons, be they free or slaves.

What I may see or hear in the course of the treatment or even outside of the treatment in regard to the life of men, which on no account one must spread abroad, I will keep to myself, holding such things shameful to be spoken about.

If I fulfil this oath and do not violate it, may it be granted to me to enjoy life and art, being honored with fame among all men for all time to come; if I transgress it and swear falsely, may the opposite of all this be my lot.

A Modern Version of the Hippocratic Oath

I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:

I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures which are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.

I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.

The classical version of the Hippocratic Oath is from the translation from the Greek by Ludwig Edelstein. From The Hippocratic Oath: Text, Translation, and Interpretation, by Ludwig Edelstein. Baltimore: Johns Hopkins Press, 1943.

The modern version of the Hippocratic Oath was written in 1964 by Louis Lasagna, Dean of the School of Medicine at Tufts University.
 

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obamacare failed him......... in that liberal shithole of a state? :ponder:Were they too busy taking care of illegals?
 

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He probably should have spoken Spanish at the hospital, but no mistake, in America, the poor will die just as they have always done.
 

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He probably should have spoken Spanish at the hospital, but no mistake, in America, the poor will die just as they have always done.
We all die
 

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Covid-19 is not considered a High Consequence Infectious Disease - but it is still vital to observe lockdown
By Sarah Wilson, Thursday, 26th March 2020, 2:05 pm
https://www.scotsman.com/read-this/...sease-it-still-vital-observe-lockdown-2519188

excerpt:

The UK government no longer classifies coronavirus as a High Consequence Infectious Disease (HCID), but this doesn't mean it's safe to resume normal life quite yet.​
In January 2020, public health officials in the UK designated Covid-19 a HCID, using the information they had access to in the early stages of the country's outbreak.​
However, the experts have now reconsidered that definition and, as of 19 March 2020, Covid-19 is no longer considered to be a HCID.​
This decision was based on a review of the most up to date information we now have about the nature of the coronavirus strain, and how it spreads.​
(more at the link)