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Yesterday Trump motioned that company in Ohio that can sterilize the m95 masks up to 20 times. They got fast tracked by the FDA to do it but only allowed to do 10k a day the current capabilities are 400,000 a day. Thats why the Gov called the President and to Trumps credit that was changed so the company can now do as many as they can handle.

2500 deaths as of this morning. over 900 of those in NY alone.
 

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A ca case shortly after the Spanish flu

"A mere suspicion [that someone is infected], unsupported by facts giving rise to reasonable or probable cause, will not justify depriving a person of his liberty under an order of quarantine." [Ex parte Arata (App. 2 Dist. 1921) 52 Cal.App. 380, 198 P. 814.]
 

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"A mere suspicion [that someone is infected], unsupported by facts giving rise to reasonable or probable cause, will not justify depriving a person of his liberty under an order of quarantine." [Ex parte Arata (App. 2 Dist. 1921) 52 Cal.App. 380, 198 P. 814.]

CG -- There has been a horrendous sea-change in the people in the USA.

That ruling above made perfect sense back then from all angles. No longer is that the case.

The ruling may well still stand in legal force, but the degradation of occupants of the USA has resulted in the absolute certainty of violence against the infected if said infected are caught out of quarantine.

Here's what I mean: An asian American citizen is coughing, has difficulty breathing, and is clearly in the grasp of the WuFlu. And he is walking down Market Street in San Francisco. And gets beaten to death by the local MS-13's (and the usual cement-block wielders) for breaking quarantine. <-- They've already singled out asian-looking Americans to attack.

The law (if ignored) will be enforced by assholes.
 

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Harvard University Professor and Two Chinese Nationals Charged in Three Separate China Related Cases
The Department of Justice announced today that the Chair of Harvard University’s Chemistry and Chemical Biology Department and two Chinese nationals have been charged in connection with aiding the People’s Republic of China.
Dr. Charles Lieber, 60, Chair of the Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology at Harvard University, was arrested this morning and charged by criminal complaint with one count of making a materially false, fictitious and fraudulent statement. Lieber will appear this afternoon before Magistrate Judge Marianne B. Bowler in federal court in Boston, Massachusetts.
Yanqing Ye, 29, a Chinese national, was charged in an indictment today with one count each of visa fraud, making false statements, acting as an agent of a foreign government and conspiracy. Ye is currently in China.
Zaosong Zheng, 30, a Chinese national, was arrested on Dec. 10, 2019, at Boston’s Logan International Airport and charged by criminal complaint with attempting to smuggle 21 vials of biological research to China. On Jan. 21, 2020, Zheng was indicted on one count of smuggling goods from the United States and one count of making false, fictitious or fraudulent statements. He has been detained since Dec. 30, 2019.
Dr. Charles Lieber
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I don't know if YouTube will be deleting this video or not. It's up as of the time I am making this GIM2 post.

Project Veritas video (9 min 29 sec):

Published on Mar 31, 2020 by Project Veritas​
 

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When the bodies are stacked like cord wood I'll be more apt to believe. I'm guessing the indoors hospital morgue isn't even being used so as to prevent contamination. Far easier to spray a trailer down with bleach water. Far easier to cause a panic if bodies are kept outside. The New York politicians have already proven they have no class, DeBlassio in particular.
 

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When the bodies are stacked like cord wood I'll be more apt to believe. I'm guessing the indoors hospital morgue isn't even being used so as to prevent contamination. Far easier to spray a trailer down with bleach water. Far easier to cause a panic if bodies are kept outside. The New York politicians have already proven they have no class, DeBlassio in particular.
^^^THIS^^^
 

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Jeez.

May the souls of those involved in INVENTING this crap rot in hell.

How any human being could be so degraded as to work hard to destroy humanity is beyond my comprehension.
"The selfish human heart is the poisonous root of all evil."
 

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Coronavirus death rate may be lower than previously thought
By Yasemin Saplakoglu - Staff Writer 2 days ago

The death rate from COVID-19 is likely around 0.66%, if counting the mild or asymptomatic cases, according to a new study

https://www.livescience.com/death-rate-lower-than-estimates.html

The coronavirus mortality rate might be lower than previously thought, according to a new study.

A group of researchers analyzed data from China and found that the overall mortality rate of COVID-19 was 1.38%. But if they adjusted for cases that likely went unaccounted for due to their mild or asymptomatic nature, the overall mortality rate decreased to around 0.66%, they reported on March 30 in journal The Lancet Infectious Diseases.

Past estimates had placed the mortality rate somewhere between 2% and 3.4% in Wuhan, China where the outbreak first began, according to a previous Live Science report. A recent study published in the journal Nature Medicine had found that the death rate in the city — without including those who were likely asymptomatic — was around 1.4%.

n this new study, to figure out the true "infection fatality ratio" — the mortality rate that includes the people with mild cases who may have not been counted before — the researchers looked to data from people who were flown back to their various countries from Wuhan, China during the outbreak.

Those repatriated people were given PCR tests — tests which detect specific genetic material within the virus, according to a previous Live Science report. They also used data from Diamond Princess cruise ship passengers who also received PCR testing. Since these tests were given to people who didn't necessarily show symptoms, the researchers were able to estimate the prevalence of such cases.

Consistent with previous research, the new study also found that the death rate varied greatly by age. While the death rate was around 0.0016% in 0 to 9-year-olds, it increased to about 7.8% for people who were age 80 and above.

The researchers also found that nearly 1 in 5 people over the age of 80 infected with COVID-19 were likely to require hospitalization whereas only 1% of people under 30 were likely to be hospitalized.

"Estimating the case fatality ratio for COVID-19 in real time during its epidemic is very challenging," Shigui Ruan, a professor in the department of mathematics at The University of Miami wrote in an accompanying commentary. But the infection fatality ratio "is a very important piece of data that will help to guide the response from various government and public health authorities worldwide."

The case fatality ratios will vary slightly from county to country, based on differences in the policies and measures put in place to control the outbreak, he added. In any case, these mortality rate estimates are still much higher than that of the seasonal flu, which kills around 0.1% of people who are infected.

"Even though the fatality rate is low for younger people, it is very clear that any suggestion of COVID-19 being just like influenza is false," he wrote. For those between the ages of 20 to 29, for instance, the chance of dying from SARS-CoV-2 is 33 times higher than the odds of dying from seasonal influenza, he wrote.
 

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DC residents are now PRISONERS in their own homes; 90 days in jail for anyone caught ‘traveling without permission’.

https://www.sgtreport.com/2020/04/d...r-anyone-caught-traveling-without-permission/

Not actually true. From the article:
Her order provides exemptions for grocery shopping, seeking medical care, work and other activities she and the city council have deemed “essential.” People can run and exercise outside too, but it cannot involve working out with people who aren’t cohabitants.

The lawsuits will begin if they try arresting people.
 

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When does this nonsense end? When???
 

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With Its Economy Collapsing, In An ACT OF ECONOMIC WAR, China Dropped the Coronavirus and Destroyed the Entire World Economy
By Jim Hoft
Published April 2, 2020 at 7:58am
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We reported over the past two years how China’s economy was collapsing. You could feel it and there were many signs of China’s pending economic collapse. Was their response an Act of War?

The BBC reported in January that official China figures are out and the news is scary:

China’s economy grew last year at the slowest pace in almost three decades.
Official figures show that the world’s second largest economy expanded by 6.1% in 2019 from the year before – the worst figure in 29 years.
The country has faced weak domestic demand and the impact of the bitter trade war with the US.
The government has been rolling out measures over the past two years in an attempt to boost growth.
It comes after almost two years of trade tensions with the US – although hopes of a better relationship with America have seen improvements in manufacturing and business confidence data.​
We’ve reported for months that President Trump had the US in the position that it could only win in a deal with China and this was the case. The US economy was on fire – more Americans were working than ever before, unemployment was at 50 year lows, wages were way up and the stock market was at record highs. But China was moving in the opposite direction.

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The problem for China was that its economy is what helped the regime stay in power and it was collapsing. China needed a deal with the US. The country had given away millions in deals around the world and it had overbuilt at home. Then President Trump came and slowly moved business from China to other countries through various actions including tariffs.
China was no longer the leader of the world. It’s GDP was reduced to almost half of that of the US and it was in real economic trouble.


As we reported in a post in August 2019, President Trump recognized that China was in an all out war with the US in regards to information and economics. For years Western leaders did nothing but negotiate into weak positions, never standing up to the Communist Chinese regime. Former US Presidents treated China like they did Russia 50 years ago, as their superior, always giving them what they wanted and never standing up to their abuse and criminal acts.

President Trump knew that China needed the US but the US didn’t need China. President Trump preached manufacturing in the USA and trade deals that made sense.

We posted a presentation from former Trump Chief Strategist Steve Bannon regarding China. He discussed how China was in an economic war with the US. He said America was losing until President Trump. Then he added this:

Well here’s the game and right now we are converging on a point and they understand this. We could take the whole thing down. We can take, the whole thing’s built on a house of sand…
If they [China] devalue their currency they are just going to flood more out. They got $3 trillion of reserves and trust me, in a New York second that thing would flood out in a second. That’s what their own people think about their economy. We’ve allowed these guys to push us around. We’ve allowed these guys to take the South China Sea…
This trade war is going to end in victory and what you’re going to see is a reorientation of the entire supply chain out of China…​

Bannon was right. He said that China was at war with the US. He said this war had been going on for 20 years and had three fronts: informational, economic and kenetic (i.e. guns).

We reported in May that just like the US in 2008, a perfect storm was building in China. The excessive and extravagant construction projects, cash-flow challenges and lack of demand in China all could combine for a major financial disaster.

A financial meltdown was in the works in China
Over the past few decades, China opened its borders and corporations around the world fled to China due to its cheap capital and meager payroll costs.

The Chinese were relentless in their efforts to obtain Western technology and grow their economy. They set up trade barriers and manipulated their currency in ways that helped China. The US was at a disadvantage in trade resulting in massive deficits in the billions.

Along came the Trump Administration, the first administration to address China’s unfair trade advantage. The timing of Trump’s tariffs was not good for China as there were more pressing issues that had to be addressed.

The more pressing issues for China surround real estate, in a manner similar to the US in 2008. As China grew, it invested in its infrastructure and in addition, it invested in large housing projects throughout the country. These efforts helped bolster China’s already fast growing economy.

The problem was that China over invested in these random properties all over China and these properties today remain empty.



There simply are not enough people in the area where these massive complexes were built that make enough money to afford living in these communities. It appears that the Chinese communists’ misunderstanding of supply and demand economics was their downfall.

Some say, no problem, China will just move all the peasants to these massive complexes but this would be devastating. First of all China needs to feed the people in these complexes. Secondly, as we have learned in the US, people on the dole with no work tend to get involved in drugs and crime. The human spirit needs a purpose – idle hands are the devil’s workshop!

These many properties throughout China still sit unoccupied, and there is a cost to this. Bloomberg reported in September 2018 about China –

Cash-to-short-term debt levels at more than 80 publicly traded real estate companies tracked by Bloomberg were 133 percent on average in the first half, the worst since the first six months of 2015 and down from 297 percent a year earlier. Almost a quarter of developers sport a ratio below 50 percent.

In addition, Bloomberg noted:

But while business has been booming, developers have also been piling on the debt. Firms have been selling more bonds in the domestic market — and at the cheapest rates as investors shrug off default concerns. Those with dollar-denominated obligations, meanwhile, face higher borrowing costs as the U.S. Federal Reserves continues on its tightening path.​
The amount of debt related to China’s over development is massive. The total amount is unknown with S&P estimating the amount not reported by local communities and banks being over $6 trillion:

China may be sitting on a hidden debt pile of as much as 40 trillion yuan ($6 trillion), concealed off-balance-sheet by the country’s local governments, according to research from S&P Global Ratings.
Many local governments in China raise debt and hold it off their balance sheet, in order to avoid lending limits imposed by central authorities. S&P says that this is a growing problem within the country, and that the amount of debt held this way has likely ballooned in recent years.​
We’ve said for nearly a year that China’s financial crash may make the 2008 crash in the US look small. The implications would no doubt impact the entire world but we never saw China’s response coming.

Accurate data coming from China is just not available on nearly everything as we are learning every day but we do know that a coronavirus was unleashed in China near Wuhan in Hubei province sometime in late 2019. This virus created a worldwide pandemic and panic and within a couple months has totally destroyed the world’s economies.

Was the China coronavirus an Act of War? We know China is in an informational and economic war with the US. The unleashing of the China coronavirus destroyed the US economy!
Millions of Americans have lost their jobs. Small and large businesses have been destroyed. American’s life savings, at their peak a few weeks ago, have vanished.

China now has the audacity to complain about the coronavirus being labeled as the ‘China coronavirus’. China even accused the US of starting the virus. Outrageous!

By unleashing the coronavirus and destroying the entire world’s economy, the China regime maintains a hold over the people in China and claims its economic woes are due to the coronavirus. The regime can also say it is no worse than all the other countries around the world.

US media and politicians who repeat China’s talking points are creating treason and should be treated as such.

This clearly was an economic Act of War and should be treated as such. China should pay for this debacle and apologize to the US and the world.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...virus-and-destroyed-the-entire-world-economy/
 

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The Gov Payout plans are fluid. Here is today's update:
 

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DC residents are now PRISONERS in their own homes; 90 days in jail for anyone caught ‘traveling without permission’.
Not actually true. From the article:
Her order provides exemptions for grocery shopping, seeking medical care, work and other activities she and the city council have deemed “essential.” People can run and exercise outside too, but it cannot involve working out with people who aren’t cohabitants.
Are DC's liquor stores still open? If so, anyone can go anywhere they want.
"I'se on my way to de licker sto' osificer!" ....is all the magic words anyone needs to say. Lol
 

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Vitamin D and immunity (20 min 20 sec):


Published on Mar 9, 2020 by Dr. John Campbell​
 

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Homeopathy & Infectious Disease Prevention Around The World (19 min 16 sec):


Published on Apr 3, 2020 by Glidden Healthcare​
A slide from Dr Glidden's video above:

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Uh... like I REALLY TRUST statistics coming from India, lol !!!
You missed the point of the video.

I doubt the statistics coming from the United States government are exactly accurate either. The point of the video is there is a great difference in the spread of the virus depending on location. The cultural habits of India would lead one to think they would have even higher rate of spread than the Netherlands but that obviously isn't what is taking place. Therefore, what is causing the difference?

Never mind, let your doubt override asking questions and trying to find solutions. LOL!
We'll see after this is over what the facts are.
 
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I read the Iceland tested their ENTIRE POPULATION of just under 300,000.... Now THAT'S "prevention" - only confine the contaminated & those whose paths they crossed in the past week...
That is what it should be here. Quarantine those confirmed or with symptoms, Especially the 70 over crowd that have been exposed, and those showing any symptoms and known immuno-deficient Hx 50 yrs old and older.
Everybody else returns to business as usual.
If you status changes comply with your quarantine and Drs. Orders.

PROBLEM NOT SOLVED but the US will not go into a bigger economic crisis than the GREAT DEPRESSION.
And like kidney stones: "This to shall pass".
 

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The cultural habits of India would lead one to think they would have even higher rate of spread than the Netherlands but that obviously isn't what is taking place. Therefore, what is causing the difference?
Maybe their caste system keeps them apart? Maybe they don't have to get on a train to get to their job?
 

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I KNOW that the stats from France are understated by at least a factor of 2 for deaths & and by x for "cases", since only those on their deathbeds in a HOSPITAL are tested (and nursing homes neither tested or deaths counted)... let alone at home...
And do you also know that the deaths reported from France are deaths FROM the virus, as opposed to deaths WITH the virus?
 

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They're so used to people dying like flies from all sorts of things all over the place that they just ignore it?... The whole country is a Petri Dish. And they keep the "herd immunization" high by all eating out of the same dish with their fingers...
Neither one of you listened to the information so you really shouldn't even comment on it.
 

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Maybe their caste system keeps them apart? Maybe they don't have to get on a train to get to their job?
Listen to the video. Quite the opposite point was made. Their culture has them very much in close contact, hence the virus should be spreading much more so than in more "stand offish" countries. However that isn't the case. Then the doctor goes on to discuss dietary factors that may be making the population of India more immune to the virus.
 

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the doctor goes on to discuss dietary factors that may be making the population of India more immune to the virus.
Maybe it's the curry, or curcumin (however ya spell it lol) that they eat?
Because in one vid I watched awhile back, (might have been one of Martenson's or possibly medcram?), it was mentioned that one of those herbs had some antiviral properties to it.
 

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