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Unca Walt

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Your math looks Ok, but I am not so sure about your data. Johns Hopkins is the most reputable site I know about, and they update the data often each day. Their latest shows 814 dead and 2920 recovered. Dividing 814 by (814+2920) is 21.8%.

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That is TWICE I made that exact error!! Jeeez. :bang head: I booted myself in the hiney right here last time, :don't know:apologizing for forgetting to add the whole fargin "finished with corona" numbers together.:bang head:

Next time I doodat, I'm gonna go drink a brandy as punishment.

WAIT. I'm gonna go punish me right now.

At least that is a full ten percent down... FWIW.
 

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Next time I doodat, I'm gonna go drink a brandy as punishment.

WAIT. I'm gonna go punish me right now.
I think you should be punished twice today. :beer:
 

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Sorry Walt, but I just checked your math and found it is not correct. Using your data and dividing 811 by (811+2649) is a death rate of 23.4%.
That puts a successful outcome at about 76% or so...

In poker that would be the equivalent of pushing all in with a made full house...

Pretty good odds...
 

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That puts a successful outcome at about 76% or so...

In poker that would be the equivalent of pushing all in with a made full house...

Pretty good odds...
Not if you die if the guy has a straight flush...

And my fargin math is wrong again. I said that is at least 10% down. It ain't. It makes a 6% difference. (70% OK vs 76% OK).

Did anybody get any info on actual deaths of anyone except orientals? I know there are cases all over, but dunno the race of whoever died. I tried DuckDuck and gargle to no avail on this data point.
 

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I'm not going to be infected; I chomp down on organic garlic regularly, drink horehound, mate, peppermint and other teas. A friend who I thought is a serious health fan said it tasted like dishwater to him. No flu vaccine for me, however I may bite the bullet and get a tetanus shot. I have seen too many people stricken by health conditions due to big Pharma and the "wonderful" doctors! Leeches!
In your whole life have you ever heard of someone with tetanus? I asked nurse at hospital if she had ever seen a case? She said no. I said no to the shot.
 

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In your whole life have you ever heard of someone with tetanus? I asked nurse at hospital if she had ever seen a case? She said no. I said no to the shot.
I haven't had a tetanus shot in over 30 years and get cut open on rusty metal several times a week.
 

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Go to this page and read.

https://www.sgtreport.com/2020/02/d...eastern-china-as-coronavirus-spreads-rapidly/

Then click on: https://www.intellihub.com/door-to-...eastern-china-as-coronavirus-spreads-rapidly/
In order to click on the Twitter links.
Scary vids that are not going to make mainstream.
China is going full pandemic.
Rich people on in house quarantine throwing money out the windows.
People forcefully being dragged to "ambulance".
Buses in UK being escorted to quarantine.
14 US people on cruise ship Corona positive.
... and what concerns me most; US govt. and news is silent as we magically remain virus stagnant.
Hope to god that is true.
If not, we are going to be finding out like in the movies.
Way to f-ing late.
Govt. "We don't want the people to panic".... yeah thanks.

Well, finally the govt will be able to use all those plastic coffins we've seen in vids... not.
I am investing in Nat gas and Caterpillar !
 

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In your whole life have you ever heard of someone with tetanus? I asked nurse at hospital if she had ever seen a case? She said no. I said no to the shot.
Good point, and why do you need one every 10 frigging years? I recently denied the dentist the right to do a whole mouth Xray, like they have to do that every time they see you? I was told they only allow their patients one refusal....For many years we were told about the dangers of Xrays, I guess tech has made that go away?

I will keep boosting my immune system with healthy herbs, no drugs, eat well, no junk, and exercise and have trust in the Creator. My father believed in mind over matter and not running to the doctor every time you felt a problem.
 

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All the "official" fatality rate numbers have come directly from the Chinese government, even if Johns Hopkins repeates them. Johns Hopkins has NO boots on the ground doing corpse counts. To think that the most populous nation in the world just forcibly shut down almost all internal business and non-military movement within for only a 3% disease fatality rate seems rather naive about human nature.
 

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In your whole life have you ever heard of someone with tetanus? I asked nurse at hospital if she had ever seen a case? She said no. I said no to the shot.
I saw one case in Washington State or so because the TDS cowards were up in arms.

Also, clearly actions speak louder than words. Pay attention to what is happening and not what these politicans say.
 

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Let's not forget that they only give us TWO sets of figures =
- Number of cases
- Number of deaths
... NOT the number of CURED SURVIVORS... so the "death toll" is "tweaked"... until all the "cases" are OVER.
... and NO indication about whether you "acquire immunity" or whether you can "catch it again" as with the "common cold" it's related to...
 

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All the "official" fatality rate numbers have come directly from the Chinese government, even if Johns Hopkins repeates them. Johns Hopkins has NO boots on the ground doing corpse counts. To think that the most populous nation in the world just forcibly shut down almost all internal business and non-military movement within for only a 3% disease fatality rate seems rather naive about human nature.
"The Death Rate Is Up To 5%": The Harrowing Admission Of A Wuhan Doctor -

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/death-rate-5-harrowing-admission-wuhan-doctor

A front-line coronavirus doctor tells of life in death in the ICU...
 

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In the cruise shipped blocked in the harbor in Japan, 2 days ago it was "20 contaminated", yesterday 65, today 135...
... & the WHO says it is "leveling off"??? Yeah, right...
 

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In the cruise shipped blocked in the harbor in Japan, 2 days ago it was "20 contaminated", yesterday 65, today 135...
... & the WHO says it is "leveling off"??? Yeah, right...
If my math is right an Ro of 3 would be a simple exponential growth. So unchecked you would expect: 1, 3, 9, 27, 81, 243, 729, 2,187. As you can see the entire cruise ship would be expected to be infected in a week if that is the R0 and NO countermeasures were implemented.
 

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If my math is right an Ro of 3 would be a simple exponential growth. So unchecked you would expect: 1, 3, 9, 27, 81, 243, 729, 2,187. As you can see the entire cruise ship would be expected to be infected in a week if that is the R0 and NO countermeasures were implemented.
Yet, the "countermeasures" are in place. People confined to their cabins... Given thermometers TO CHECK THEIR OWN TEMPERATURES...
... but hanging banners over the side of the ship begging for medications...
 

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Crazy thought from left field...

What if a systemic global collapse was imminent, and TPTB wanted to usher in a new global financial architecture that they had 100% control over...a new system that they had been developing in secret and implementing the architecture and infrastructure right in front of our eyes?

And what if it was "that time" to actually implement? How to do it? How to get the entire world to go along with it?

A global viral pandemic would fit the bill. It would allow governments the world over to implement quarantines...martial law...those identified as being subversive will either be among those that succumb to the virus...or are targeted for quarantine where they can be disposed of out of sight. It would allow the government to suspend the current financial system and officialize the new one. Because of the massive loss of life due to the virus affecting every country - society would need to be restructured and centrally planned during the aftermath. A centralized government. A one world government.

Of course the insiders would all have gotten the vaccine for the virus ahead of time.

Never let a crisis go to waste...(especially those crises that are preplanned)...
 

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Legacy is having a sale on freeze dried food, eight months supply for $1,650. Just purchased, only a couple of months for the Mrs. and our eight year old, but why not? Been buying up extra food items that we use anyway, friends of mine are doing the same. Why not?

I hope that is is all a nothingburger, but if not I want to be able to stay at home indefinitely. We have a hand pump well and lots of firewood.
 

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Watching it now...
 

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Crazy thought from left field...

What if a systemic global collapse was imminent, and TPTB wanted to usher in a new global financial architecture that they had 100% control over...a new system that they had been developing in secret and implementing the architecture and infrastructure right in front of our eyes?

And what if it was "that time" to actually implement? How to do it? How to get the entire world to go along with it?

A global viral pandemic would fit the bill. It would allow governments the world over to implement quarantines...martial law...those identified as being subversive will either be among those that succumb to the virus...or are targeted for quarantine where they can be disposed of out of sight. It would allow the government to suspend the current financial system and officialize the new one. Because of the massive loss of life due to the virus affecting every country - society would need to be restructured and centrally planned during the aftermath. A centralized government. A one world government.

Of course the insiders would all have gotten the vaccine for the virus ahead of time.

Never let a crisis go to waste...(especially those crises that are preplanned)...

Not a crazy thought at all, Strawboss. I wish more people were working this angle. Actually I'm really surprised more people in the alternate media aren't considering this. 10 years ago, when you listened to the alternate media there was lots of talk about the global depopulation agenda, Georgia Guide Stones, Gates Foundation vaccines, Club of Rome, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg, Counsel on Foreign Relations, City of London, and so on.

People keep talking about this, making the assumption, that it's a Chinese bioweapon or an American bioweapon. But what if it's actually a UN / NWO bioweapon?

I've noticed from the beginning that the MSM (including Fox) has been promoting the WHO throughout this ordeal. But so many forget what the WHO really is. The WHO is a world government body!
 

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Crazy thought from left field...

What if a systemic global collapse was imminent, and TPTB wanted to usher in a new global financial architecture that they had 100% control over...a new system that they had been developing in secret and implementing the architecture and infrastructure right in front of our eyes?

And what if it was "that time" to actually implement? How to do it? How to get the entire world to go along with it?

A global viral pandemic would fit the bill. It would allow governments the world over to implement quarantines...martial law...those identified as being subversive will either be among those that succumb to the virus...or are targeted for quarantine where they can be disposed of out of sight. It would allow the government to suspend the current financial system and officialize the new one. Because of the massive loss of life due to the virus affecting every country - society would need to be restructured and centrally planned during the aftermath. A centralized government. A one world government.

Of course the insiders would all have gotten the vaccine for the virus ahead of time.

Never let a crisis go to waste...(especially those crises that are preplanned)...
intentional or not, a pandemic would be a prime opportunity to install WHO control (UN) across the globe for "health reasons". People would resist martial law for political reasons, but a pandemic? They'd march right into the vaccination clinic like good little sheep - what if the vaccine were actually the "mark of the beast"?
 

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intentional or not, a pandemic would be a prime opportunity to install WHO control (UN) across the globe for "health reasons". People would resist martial law for political reasons, but a pandemic? They'd march right into the vaccination clinic like good little sheep - what if the vaccine were actually the "mark of the beast"?
Start in the cesspool cities first.
 

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[QUOTE="stAGgering, post: 1819944, member: 1709
Yes, but key info is virus is mutating and could weaken.
Hope so.[/QUOTE]

The common theory is that viruses that kill off their hosts too quickly either die out quickly or mutate into less life-threatening forms, to keep their host alive so that they can thrive & spread longer...
 

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[QUOTE="stAGgering, post: 1819944, member: 1709
Yes, but key info is virus is mutating and could weaken.
Hope so.
The common theory is that viruses that kill off their hosts too quickly either die out quickly or mutate into less life-threatening forms, to keep their host alive so that they can thrive & spread longer...[/QUOTE]
There are all kinds of theories out there. I'm not sure any of them have any basis in fact though
 

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Coronavirus: New study finds incubation period of up to 24 days
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/e...tudy-finds-incubation-period-of-up-to-24-days

WUHAN (CAIXIN GLOBAL) - New research based on data gathered from more than 1,000 coronavirus patients in China found that the incubation period for the virus was as long as 24 days rather than the previously believed 14 days, and fewer than half of the patients showed fever symptoms when they first saw doctors.

The study, produced by at least three dozen researchers from Chinese hospitals and medical schools led by Dr Zhong Nanshan, a Chinese epidemiologist who discovered the Sars coronavirus in 2003, showed that much is still unknown about the deadly virus named 2019-nCoV.

An early-identification method might have defects that could have resulted in large numbers of infected people going undiscovered, the researchers found.

Fever occurred in just 43.8 per cent of patients but later developed in 87.9 per cent following hospitalisation, according to the study.

Absence of fever in 2019-nCoV cases was more frequent than in Sars and Mers infections, the study found. Such patients may be missed if the surveillance case definition focused heavily on fever detection, the authors said.

Previously, before patients went through nucleic acid tests (NATs) to confirm infection, their CT scans had to show signs of viral infection, commonly reflected as ground-glass opacity or bilateral patchy shadowing in the chest.

But among the 840 patients in the study who underwent CT scans, only half showed ground-glass opacity and 46 per cent showed bilateral patchy shadowing. This means that relying on CT scans alone could fail to identify a significant proportion of infected patients, the researchers said.

On Jan 27, the National Health Commission revised its diagnostic criteria, no longer requiring that CT scans show pneumonia image to identify suspected cases.

But as there is growing concern that the NATs are producing large numbers of false negatives, some doctors suggested the inclusion of CT scanning as a key basis for diagnosing coronavirus infections.

The study, published on Sunday (Feb 9) on medical research archive medRxiv, is a prepublication paper and has not been peer-reviewed and therefore should not be used to guide clinical practice, medRxiv said.

The patients in the study came from 552 hospitals in 31 provinces from Jan 1-29. Only 1.18 per cent of patients had been in direct contact with wildlife, where researchers speculate the virus might have originated.

Nearly one-third of them had been to Wuhan and 71.8 per cent had been in contact with someone from Wuhan, the epicentre of the outbreak, providing further evidence of human-to-human transmission. The findings are consistent with recent reports of infections from family gatherings and transmission from people without any symptoms.

Absence of fever in 2019-nCoV cases was more frequent than in Sars and Mers infections, the study found. Such patients may be missed if the surveillance case definition focused heavily on fever detection, the researchers said.

The study cannot preclude the presence of "super-spreaders", a small group of people who transmit infections to far more people than the majority do, the authors said.

In the 2003 Sars outbreak, a doctor who had treated Sars patients in Guangdong infected 16 others when he travelled to Hong Kong to attend a family wedding. These guests then travelled to other countries, spreading Sars into a global epidemic.

The routes of transmission might have contributed considerably to the rapid spread of the new virus, the study concluded. Like Sars and Mers, the conventional routes of transmission of the new coronavirus consist of respiratory droplets and direct contact.

However, the study found that four out of 62 stool specimens, or 6.5 per cent, tested positive to 2019-nCoV, and four more patients who tested positive in rectal swabs had the 2019-nCoV detected in the gastrointestinal tract, saliva or urine.

Therefore, the researchers called for integrating systemic protection measures, taking into account transmission via gastrointestinal secretions.

The study also provided a glimpse into how much threat of infection medical workers face. Among the 1,099 patients, 2.09 per cent were medical workers.

As of Tuesday, confirmed cases in China rose to more than 42,000 with more than 1,000 deaths.

China's health authorities haven't disclosed how many medical workers are infected. But a recent paper released by the South Central Hospital of Wuhan University, one of the designated hospitals to accept coronavirus patients, showed that 40 doctors and nurses were confirmed with infection as of Jan 28.
 

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A new study finds that 99.9% of all studies are factually incorrect and are manipulated to a arrive at a specific outcome
 

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Virus survives up to 9 days on non-organic surfaces (door handles, silverware, arm-rests, countertops, tables, chairs etc.

Researchers reveal how long coronaviruses persist on surfaces and a way for inactivation
https://www.news-medical.net/news/2...t-on-surfaces-and-a-way-for-inactivation.aspx

Reviewed by James Ives, M.Psych. (Editor)Feb 9 2020

The novel coronavirus 2019-nCoV is making headlines worldwide. Since there is no specific therapy against it, the prevention of infection is of particular importance in order to stem the epidemic. Like all droplet infections, the virus can spread via hands and surfaces that are frequently touched. "In hospitals, these can be door handles, for example, but also call buttons, bedside tables, bed frames and other objects in the direct vicinity of patients, which are often made of metal or plastic," explains Professor Günter Kampf from the Institute of Hygiene and Environmental Medicine at the Greifswald University Hospital.

Together with Professor Eike Steinmann, head of the Department for Molecular and Medical Virology at Ruhr-Universität Bochum (RUB), he has compiled comprehensive findings from 22 studies on coronaviruses and their inactivation for a future textbook.


"Under the circumstances, the best approach was to publish these verified scientific facts in advance, in order to make all information available at a glance."
Eike Steinmann, head of the Department for Molecular and Medical Virology at Ruhr-Universität Bochum​

Infectious on surfaces for up to nine days

The evaluated studies, which focus on the pathogens Sars coronavirus and Mers coronavirus, showed, for example, that the viruses can persist on surfaces and remain infectious at room temperature for up to nine days. On average, they survive between four and five days. "Low temperature and high air humidity further increase their lifespan," points out Kampf.

Tests with various disinfection solutions showed that agents based on ethanol, hydrogen peroxide or sodium hypochlorite are effective against coronaviruses. If these agents are applied in appropriate concentrations, they reduce the number of infectious coronaviruses by four so-called log steps within one minute: this means, for example, from one million to only 100 pathogenic particles. If preparations based on other active ingredients are used, the product should be proven to be at least effective against enveloped viruses ("limited virucidal activity"). "As a rule, this is sufficient to significantly reduce the risk of infection," explains Günter Kampf.
Findings should be transferable to 2019-CoV

The experts assume that the results from the analyses of other coronaviruses are transferable to the novel virus. "Different coronaviruses were analyzed, and the results were all similar," concludes Eike Steinmann.

Source:
Ruhr-University Bochum
 

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"However, the study found that four out of 62 stool specimens, or 6.5 per cent, tested positive to 2019-nCoV, and four more patients who tested positive in rectal swabs had the 2019-nCoV detected in the gastrointestinal tract, saliva or urine."

This means the beaners shitting in Wal-Mart aisles in San Fran and Los Angeles and every town in California, as well as up there in Superlib Orygun shitcity...

...will spread a single starting point to cover all those places.
 

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"However, the study found that four out of 62 stool specimens, or 6.5 per cent, tested positive to 2019-nCoV, and four more patients who tested positive in rectal swabs had the 2019-nCoV detected in the gastrointestinal tract, saliva or urine."

This means the beaners shitting in Wal-Mart aisles in San Fran and Los Angeles and every town in California, as well as up there in Superlib Orygun shitcity...

...will spread a single starting point to cover all those places.
Perfect!
 

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My wife, daughter & granddaughter are traveling today - meeting up in Paris... All 3 are wearing masks and glasses (not as effective as goggles - but there's a limit, haha!)... Especially since my daughter has Krohn's disease and is on immune-suppressors... And they'll be in the subway, on buses, in department stores, hotels & restaurants... I handed several face masks and hand sanitizer (& a box of Kleenex) to my wife... not latex gloves or goggles yet...
Only 11 declared cases in France so far, but places packed with people will also give you the flu & common cold... as well as TB and others (with all the ILLEGALS in the public transportation... who knows what other airborne infectious transmissible diseases)
 

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Update just now:

3281 Recovered
1117 Dead
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4398 Have completed their journey from start to finish. 4398 divided by 1117 =

That is precisely a 25.4% death rate. :Out::zombie:

To continue with the worrisome, but inescapable math... the number of cases as of today exceeds 42,200 in China alone.

Using the "China alone" number with the 25.4% fatality expected number

just for those counted and registered as infected as of now: 10,718 of those 42,200 people "in the pipeline" at this time will die.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51453848
 
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That is precisely a 25% death rate.
I think your math is off a'gin. It's "precisely" 25.397908140064%

Or at least that's what my calculator says. I didn't actually do the math. Lol

Just givin' ya a little hard time after your couple of math oops. Lol