• "Spreading the ideas of freedom loving people on matters regarding high finance, politics, constructionist Constitution, and mental masturbation of all types"

Corona Virus News & Info

Goldhedge

Moderator
Site Mgr
Sr Site Supporter
GIM Hall Of Fame
Joined
Mar 28, 2010
Messages
52,817
Likes
99,747
Location
Rocky Mountains

SongSungAU

Midas Member
Midas Member
Site Supporter
Joined
Jun 8, 2010
Messages
9,624
Likes
18,490

Goldhedge

Moderator
Site Mgr
Sr Site Supporter
GIM Hall Of Fame
Joined
Mar 28, 2010
Messages
52,817
Likes
99,747
Location
Rocky Mountains
PANIC PANDEMIC: More COVID-19 Facts the Media DOESN'T Want You to Know | Steve Deace Show

Steve Deace Show
 

Uglytruth

Midas Member
Midas Member
Site Supporter ++
Joined
Apr 6, 2011
Messages
11,259
Likes
21,708
Michigan news today. Positive cases up. 16 deaths 9 of them from reviewing paperwork.......................
 

Uglytruth

Midas Member
Midas Member
Site Supporter ++
Joined
Apr 6, 2011
Messages
11,259
Likes
21,708
More at link

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/louie-gohmert-hydroxychloroquine-z-pak-zinc/2020/08/12/id/981878/

Rep. Louie Gohmert to Newsmax TV: They Wanted Me to 'Just Die'; HCQ Saved Me

Celebrating a victory over COVID-19 and hateful critics who they said wanted him to "just die," Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, told Newsmax TV that hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) helped him overcome his bout with the coronavirus.


"I know there were people, from some of the comments I got, they were hoping I would just die, but there were a lot of people praying," Gohmert told "The Chris Salcedo Show."


"But, I've got to say, Chris, I got the hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, the z-pak, and zinc, and vitamins, steroid nebulizer, and I'm telling you, it made a huge difference, a huge difference.


"So, I'm doing so much better than I would have expected."
 

Uglytruth

Midas Member
Midas Member
Site Supporter ++
Joined
Apr 6, 2011
Messages
11,259
Likes
21,708
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10828029/

Blood

. 2000 Jun 1;95(11):3460-6.
Hydroxychloroquine inhibits calcium signals in T cells: a new mechanism to explain its immunomodulatory properties

F D Goldman 1 , A L Gilman, C Hollenback, R M Kato, B A Premack, D J Rawlings

Affiliations
  • PMID: 10828029

Abstract

Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), a lysosomotropic amine, is an immunosuppressive agent presently being evaluated in bone marrow transplant patients to treat graft-versus-host disease. While its immunosuppressive properties have been attributed primarily to its ability to interfere with antigen processing, recent reports demonstrate HCQ also blocks T-cell activation in vitro. To more precisely define the T-cell inhibitory effects of HCQ, the authors evaluated T-cell antigen receptor (TCR) signaling events in a T-cell line pretreated with HCQ. In a concentration-dependent manner, HCQ inhibited anti-TCR-induced up-regulation of CD69 expression, a distal TCR signaling event. Proximal TCR signals, including inductive protein tyrosine phosphorylation, tyrosine phosphorylation of phospholipase C gamma1, and total inositol phosphate production, were unaffected by HCQ. Strikingly, anti-TCR-crosslinking-induced calcium mobilization was significantly inhibited by HCQ, particularly at the highest concentrations tested (100 micromol/L) in both T-cell lines and primary T cells. HCQ, in a dose-dependent fashion, also reduced a B-cell antigen receptor calcium signal, indicating this effect may be a general property of HCQ. Inhibition of the calcium signal correlated directly with a reduction in the size of thapsigargin-sensitive intracellular calcium stores in HCQ-treated cells. Together, these findings suggest that disruption of TCR-crosslinking-dependent calcium signaling provides an additional mechanism to explain the immunomodulatory properties of HCQ.

Similar articles



See all similar articles

Cited by 38 articles



See all "Cited by" articles

Publication types

  • Research Support, Non-U.S. Gov't

  • Research Support, U.S. Gov't, P.H.S.

MeSH terms

  • Antigens, CD / genetics

  • Antigens, Differentiation, T-Lymphocyte / genetics

  • Calcium / physiology*

  • Gene Expression Regulation

  • Humans

  • Hydroxychloroquine / pharmacology*

  • Immunosuppressive Agents / pharmacology

  • Inositol Phosphates / metabolism

  • Jurkat Cells

  • Kinetics

  • Lectins, C-Type

  • Receptors, Antigen, T-Cell / drug effects

  • Receptors, Antigen, T-Cell / physiology*

  • Signal Transduction / drug effects*

  • T-Lymphocytes / drug effects

  • T-Lymphocytes / immunology

  • T-Lymphocytes / physiology*

  • Tetradecanoylphorbol Acetate / pharmacology

  • Tumor Cells, Cultured

Substances

  • Antigens, CD

  • Antigens, Differentiation, T-Lymphocyte

  • CD69 antigen

  • Immunosuppressive Agents

  • Inositol Phosphates

  • Lectins, C-Type

  • Receptors, Antigen, T-Cell

  • Hydroxychloroquine

  • Tetradecanoylphorbol Acetate

  • Calcium

Related information


Grant support


LinkOut - more resources

 

Goldhedge

Moderator
Site Mgr
Sr Site Supporter
GIM Hall Of Fame
Joined
Mar 28, 2010
Messages
52,817
Likes
99,747
Location
Rocky Mountains
Can't trust ANY of the MSM

Screen Shot 2020-08-14 at 9.34.04 AM.png


NBC and MSNBC science contributor Dr. Joseph Fair documented his battle with coronavirus — until admitting he did not actually have it after all.

The Daily Caller reported Friday: “Dr. Joseph Fair, a virologist, believed he had the virus and appeared on air numerous times to discuss his struggle with illness in May and June. On Tuesday, Fair admitted that he tested negative for the virus multiple times but had originally believed he had it regardless. Fair also tested negative upon taking an antibody test.”

Fair’s timeline on Twitter documents his journey over the past two months, from announcing that he had “come down with COVID” on May 13, to revealing on July 7 that he had not.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media...ut-having-coronavirus-admits-he-never-had-it/
 

the_shootist

Old Pasty White Guy
Midas Member
Midas Supporter ++
Joined
May 31, 2015
Messages
49,720
Likes
87,022
Location
Earth
Can't trust ANY of the MSM

View attachment 176685

NBC and MSNBC science contributor Dr. Joseph Fair documented his battle with coronavirus — until admitting he did not actually have it after all.

The Daily Caller reported Friday: “Dr. Joseph Fair, a virologist, believed he had the virus and appeared on air numerous times to discuss his struggle with illness in May and June. On Tuesday, Fair admitted that he tested negative for the virus multiple times but had originally believed he had it regardless. Fair also tested negative upon taking an antibody test.”

Fair’s timeline on Twitter documents his journey over the past two months, from announcing that he had “come down with COVID” on May 13, to revealing on July 7 that he had not.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media...ut-having-coronavirus-admits-he-never-had-it/
I'm shocked...SHOCKED I tell ya!

>:-O
 

GOLDBRIX

God,Donald Trump,most in GIM2 I Trust. OTHERS-meh
Midas Member
Midas Supporter
Joined
Apr 4, 2010
Messages
15,633
Likes
22,056
Can't trust ANY of the MSM

View attachment 176685

NBC and MSNBC science contributor Dr. Joseph Fair documented his battle with coronavirus — until admitting he did not actually have it after all.

The Daily Caller reported Friday: “Dr. Joseph Fair, a virologist, believed he had the virus and appeared on air numerous times to discuss his struggle with illness in May and June. On Tuesday, Fair admitted that he tested negative for the virus multiple times but had originally believed he had it regardless. Fair also tested negative upon taking an antibody test.”

Fair’s timeline on Twitter documents his journey over the past two months, from announcing that he had “come down with COVID” on May 13, to revealing on July 7 that he had not.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media...ut-having-coronavirus-admits-he-never-had-it/
Its cocksuckers like this guy who get all the media sensation at first, but the media disappears when it should be covering the lie.
 

Goldhedge

Moderator
Site Mgr
Sr Site Supporter
GIM Hall Of Fame
Joined
Mar 28, 2010
Messages
52,817
Likes
99,747
Location
Rocky Mountains
If Humanity Won't Revolt, GOD'S ARMY WILL! #GodWins

Maryam Henein is an investigative journalist and director of the award-winning documentary 'Vanishing of the Bees'. In this interview we discuss the virus tyranny and big pharma, Operation "Quack Hack", techno-fascism & much more. By the way, if WE the people won't revolt against this rapidly unfolding anti-human global agenda, the birds will because in the end GOD WINS!! So stay tuned.

SGTreport

 

Goldhedge

Moderator
Site Mgr
Sr Site Supporter
GIM Hall Of Fame
Joined
Mar 28, 2010
Messages
52,817
Likes
99,747
Location
Rocky Mountains
Lasers can help us detect viruses faster than typical medical tests
Laser beams vibrate proteins in unique ways

Katherine McCormick

Quantum Physics
University of Washington
June 16, 2020

To detect a virus, you need to already know intimate details about it. You need to design a test particular to that virus: one that finds and copies only a specific, identifying piece of its genetic material.

But Mauricio Terrones and his collaborators at Penn State University think they’ve found a better way. Described recently in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, their method, VIRRION, may be a faster and more versatile diagnostic tool than the conventional polymerase chain reaction (PCR) virus tests.

PCR works by making millions of copies of DNA or RNA to enhance the detection of viruses, including the novel coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2. The ongoing pandemic has led to advances in the speed of PCR tests. But the test is based on biochemical processes that occur at specific temperatures, so researchers can’t process tests any faster than the several hours it takes to heat and cool the sample many times. Not only that, a PCR test will only recognize the virus that it was specifically designed to test, so a new test must be developed and disseminated each time a new virus pops up. The delay between the emergence of a virus and the availability of tests can lead to devastating consequences.

VIRRION addresses both of these issues. Preliminary tests on three different viruses show that it can identify a virus with 70-90 percent accuracy within a few minutes of receiving a sample.
 

Uglytruth

Midas Member
Midas Member
Site Supporter ++
Joined
Apr 6, 2011
Messages
11,259
Likes
21,708
Contractor that does work for us lost his 16 year old daughter........

Seems drfauci has blood on his hands. This is HIS virus. He was the "expert"

https://www.redstate.com/slee/2020/...to-die/?bcid=accf174f4a3e0a559d85faea15cf6d00

The Lockdown Is Making Young People Want To Die

Posted at 10:05 pm on August 13, 2020 by Sarah Lee




Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot arrives at Wrigley Field in Chicago, Thursday, April 16, 2020. The Chicago Cubs will use Wrigley Field as a food distribution hub to help support COVID-19 relief efforts. (AP Photo/Nam Y. Huh)

If hopelessness feels like it’s setting in, it’s not a fantasy borne of too much time shut away from other people behind a mask: according to data from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), a quarter of young adults have contemplated suicide during the COVID 19 pandemic.

1597450176062.png


The irony of a population of young people being driven to consider ending their lives because they’ve been asked to hide away from a virus that is unlikely to kill them is almost too much to comprehend. Yet that is apparently part of what the nation must grapple with even as debate continues to rage over whether children should return to schools, college-age athletes are told to abandon their dreams and leave the field, and one candidate for president suggest a nation-wide mask mandate should be in effect for the next three months (at the end of which is, incidentally, when the election will take place).

From Politico:

The toll is falling heaviest on young adults, caregivers, essential workers and minorities. While 10.7 percent of respondents overall reported considering suicide in the previous 30 days, 25.5 percent of those between 18 to 24 reported doing so. Almost 31 percent of self-reported unpaid caregivers and 22 percent of essential workers also said they harbored such thoughts. Hispanic and Black respondents similarly were well above the average.​
Roughly 30.9 percent of respondents said they had symptoms of anxiety or depression. Roughly 26.3 respondents reported trauma and stress-related disorder because of the pandemic.​
Another 13.3 percent of respondents said they have turned to substance use, including alcohol and prescription or illicit drugs, to cope with stress from the pandemic.​
The data also indicates that young people developing symptoms of anxiety has tripled since this time last year.



Drug usage and overdoses are up nationally, as well.

In a report released July 8 by the San Diego-based laboratory Millennium Health, an analysis of 500,000 urine drug tests found that there was an increase in the national usage of four drugs: non-prescribed fentanyl, methamphetamine, cocaine and heroin.​
In short: lockdowns kill. It’s time to start assessing whether a prolonged one (presumably with a nationwide mask mandate) is worth the risk to the nation’s collective mental health.

Tags: COVID lockdown Mask Mandate Mental Health Overdoses quarantine suicide
 

the_shootist

Old Pasty White Guy
Midas Member
Midas Supporter ++
Joined
May 31, 2015
Messages
49,720
Likes
87,022
Location
Earth
Because the dummies we share the planet with will believe anything...

1597450643175.png
 

Uglytruth

Midas Member
Midas Member
Site Supporter ++
Joined
Apr 6, 2011
Messages
11,259
Likes
21,708
https://thenationalpulse.com/news/un-expert-says-covid-19-bioweapon/

UN-Linked Biotech Expert Claims COVID-19 is Man-Made Bioweapon From Chinese Military Lab
World Academy of Biomedical Sciences president and renowned biotech expert Giuseppe Tritto has alleged that COVID-19 was man-made, hailing from a Chinese military-led experiment, and that it’s “extremely unlikely” that a successful vaccine will be invented.
The explosive charges come from Tritto’s new book, China COVID 19: The Chimera That Changed The World.

Published in Italian, the nearly 300-page book contends that China conducted bioengineering experiments with financial and personnel assistance from France and the U.S. While the collaboration sought to develop vaccines against diseases such as SARS, it morphed into more dangerous research under the auspices of the Chinese military.
Specifically, Tritto alleges that the Wuhan Institute of Virology’s P4 lab used “reverse genetics” – a process whereby scientists alter disease pathogens – to build lethal bioweapons.
While charges that COVID-19 was a man-made bioweapon have been dismissed by the mainstream media, Tritto’s credentials have the potential to lend serious credibility to his findings.
As Executive President of the World Academy of Biomedical Sciences and Technologies, he oversees an institution which regularly collaborates with United Nations (UN) agencies such as United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation (UNESCO.)
The UN is the body that oversees the World Health Organization (WHO), tasked with overseeing the world’s COVID-19 response and frequently accused of subservience to the Chinese Communist Party.

Tritto adds that the program director, Dr. Shi Zhengli, was encouraged by People’s Liberation Army (PLA) experts to reappropriate the lab to focus on the construction of bioweapons. Concerning U.S. involvement, professors who had received major grants from Dr. Anthony Fauci’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease were named in the book as working on the venture.
The Chinese Communist Party continues to refuse to release details about the virus. Details necessary for creating an effective vaccine.
“Providing the matrix virus would have meant admitting that COVID-19 was created in the laboratory. In fact, the incomplete genome made available by China lacks some inserts of AIDS amino acids, which itself is a smoking gun,” Tritto explains.
Admissions of guilt would open the floodgates for the Chinese Communist Party to be held legally and financially accountable for spawning and spreading the disease.
The coronavirus has now mutated, affecting the efficacy of any vaccine:

“Given the many mutations of COVID-19, it is extremely unlikely that a single vaccine that blocks the virus will be found. At the moment 11 different strains have been identified: the A2a genetic line which developed in Europe and the B1 genetic line which took root in North America are more contagious than the 0 strain originating in Wuhan. I therefore believe that, at the most, a multivalent vaccine can be found effective on 4-5 strains and thus able to cover 70-75% of the world’s population.”​
Proving yet again: China lied, people died.
 

Uglytruth

Midas Member
Midas Member
Site Supporter ++
Joined
Apr 6, 2011
Messages
11,259
Likes
21,708
One of the top hospitals.....

https://www.wxyz.com/news/coronavir...-use-hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19-patients

FDA denies Henry Ford Health System's request to use hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 patients


Copyright 2020 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

Photo by: Ben Margot/AP

FILE - In this April 6, 2020 file photo, a pharmacist holds a bottle of the drug hydroxychloroquine in Oakland, Calif. Results published Wednesday, June 3, 2020, by the New England Journal of Medicine show that hydroxychloroquine was no better than placebo pills at preventing illness from the COVID-19 coronavirus. The drug did not seem to cause serious harm, though - about 40% on it had side effects, mostly mild stomach problems. (AP Photo/Ben Margot)





Posted at 1:54 PM, Aug 13, 2020

and last updated 1:54 PM, Aug 13, 2020

(WXYZ) — The FDA denied Henry Ford Health System's request for an emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine for a segment of COVID-19 patients.
In a statement, Henry Ford said the decision does not impact the ongoing study that investigates hydroxychloroquine as a preventative treatment.
Recent Stories from wxyz.com



"At the same time, we remain focused on advancing efforts to develop a safe and effective vaccine against COVID-19," Henry Ford said. "We are the only site in Michigan enrolling volunteers in the phase 3 trial of the Moderna mRNA-1273 Coronavirus vaccine and evaluating its promise as a vaccine candidate. We continue to believe that a safe and effective vaccine is the best way to protect people from this devastating virus."
Dr. Anthony Fauci previously called the study on the effectiveness of using hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19 "flawed" during testimony in front of a House subcommittee.
In response, doctors at Henry Ford Health System penned an open letter, saying the current political climate has made any discussion of the drug impossible.
Additional Coronavirus information and resources:
Click here for a page with resources
including a COVID-19 overview from the CDC, details on cases in Michigan, a timeline of Governor Gretchen Whitmer's orders since the outbreak, coronavirus' impact on Southeast Michigan, and links to more information from the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services, the CDC and the WHO.

View a global coronavirus tracker with data from Johns Hopkins University.
See complete coverage on our Coronavirus Continuing Coverage page.
Visit our The Rebound Detroit, a place where we are working to help people impacted financially from the coronavirus. We have all the information on everything available to help you through this crisis and how to access it.

Copyright 2020 Scripps Media, Inc. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritt
 

Uglytruth

Midas Member
Midas Member
Site Supporter ++
Joined
Apr 6, 2011
Messages
11,259
Likes
21,708
Hey only another year or forever of lockdown says the expert.....

https://www.axios.com/fauci-coronav...mal-f0bb2126-d304-498b-9951-f2b2989d0f8b.html

Aug 14, 2020 - HealthFauci believes normalcy will return by "the end of 2021" with coronavirus vaccine

Ursula Perano






Photo: Erin Scott/Pool/Getty Images
Anthony Fauci told PBS NewsHour on Thursday that he expects the U.S. could "be as good [as] back to normal as we possibly can" by the end of 2021 if a coronavirus vaccine becomes widely available.
The big picture: Fauci made clear that this would not mean the virus is eradicated, saying, "We can get it under good enough control that it is so low that it doesn't interfere with the kind of normal life that we want to get the economy back, to get employment back."
  • "I do not think it is going to be 2024. I think it's going to be more like the end of 2021."
The state of play: Several vaccine candidates have entered human trials, though their effectiveness might not be what Americans are used to.
  • Fauci said last week that there are "not great" chances that an eventual vaccine will be 98% effective, arguing instead that the vaccine would likely reduce a person’s risk of infection by 50% or 60%.
  • The FDA says it will only require a 50% effectiveness rate for approval.
  • "You’ve got to think of the vaccine as a tool to be able to get the pandemic to no longer be a pandemic, but to be something that’s well controlled," Fauci added.
 

Goldhedge

Moderator
Site Mgr
Sr Site Supporter
GIM Hall Of Fame
Joined
Mar 28, 2010
Messages
52,817
Likes
99,747
Location
Rocky Mountains
Screen Shot 2020-08-15 at 6.21.36 PM.png
 

Goldhedge

Moderator
Site Mgr
Sr Site Supporter
GIM Hall Of Fame
Joined
Mar 28, 2010
Messages
52,817
Likes
99,747
Location
Rocky Mountains
Top Docs – Masks Don’t Work!, 3181 Still reporting

 

the_shootist

Old Pasty White Guy
Midas Member
Midas Supporter ++
Joined
May 31, 2015
Messages
49,720
Likes
87,022
Location
Earth

Goldhedge

Moderator
Site Mgr
Sr Site Supporter
GIM Hall Of Fame
Joined
Mar 28, 2010
Messages
52,817
Likes
99,747
Location
Rocky Mountains
Ben Swan has a movie coming out on ise.media on Tuesday 1:30 MST exposing corona virus manufacturing/manipulation

He covers it in the 1st 15 mins

 
Last edited:

newmisty

Splodey-Headed
Midas Member
Site Supporter ++
Joined
Mar 31, 2010
Messages
31,783
Likes
49,563
Location
Qmerica
I just passed a digital message board on the interstate in Arkansas reminding us to practice social distancing.... 2 seconds on Road 6 feet in person.

Are they serious? I don't know if my brain can take much more of this.
 

chieftain

Silver Miner
Joined
Jan 4, 2020
Messages
1,808
Likes
2,569
Just heard one of the talking heads on the radio cock up massively. They had a epidemiologist on (someone they obviously didn't vet thoroughly enough for their purposes) and this person said that beer virus 2020 would be done and dusted this year, well before any vaccine came along. The scramble by the host and the producer team in the aftermath of this revelation was epic.

What's the bet it won't be on todays podcast :D
 

Hystckndle

SWEATEQUITYIS$$$
Site Mgr
Midas Supporter ++
GIM Hall Of Fame
Joined
Mar 28, 2010
Messages
8,088
Likes
10,156
Location
Central Florida
Just heard one of the talking heads on the radio cock up massively. They had a epidemiologist on (someone they obviously didn't vet thoroughly enough for their purposes) and this person said that beer virus 2020 would be done and dusted this year, well before any vaccine came along. The scramble by the host and the producer team in the aftermath of this revelation was epic.
What's the bet it won't be on todays podcast :D
Posted this on another thread. Interesting charts from a mostly "math only" guy .

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=239998
 

Hystckndle

SWEATEQUITYIS$$$
Site Mgr
Midas Supporter ++
GIM Hall Of Fame
Joined
Mar 28, 2010
Messages
8,088
Likes
10,156
Location
Central Florida
I just passed a digital message board on the interstate in Arkansas reminding us to practice social distancing.... 2 seconds on Road 6 feet in person.
Are they serious? I don't know if my brain can take much more of this.
Drove over to New Symrna Beach on Sunday.
45 minutes there, hang out for a bit,
drive back kind of thing.
Usually a 3 hour or so turn. Helps clear the noggin'.
Staring out at the big ole sea helps me with how it all is a buncha malarkey...
ANYways....right there, amidst the gaggle of peeps BBQing under the canopies and picnic tables
and trodding back and forth to the concrete block bathroom and
all crowded under the fresh water shower to get some of the Shake and Bake looking sand off of them is a big
dot GOV provided sign that says.
" Social Distancing Required " etc etc etc.
LMAO !!!!
Walk to the rail to look over to beach side...people everywhere, 10x 10 pop ups, folks having a good time.
Yeah...
Taking anymore of it here is I suppose getting ready to be " done ".
:) :)
Just gonna block it out.
 

SongSungAU

Midas Member
Midas Member
Site Supporter
Joined
Jun 8, 2010
Messages
9,624
Likes
18,490
The mortality rate continues to decline....

CM200818.jpg
 

SongSungAU

Midas Member
Midas Member
Site Supporter
Joined
Jun 8, 2010
Messages
9,624
Likes
18,490
Posted this on another thread. Interesting charts from a mostly "math only" guy .

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=239998
That's a great video! You should have embedded the video in your post because some folks won't click the link you provided.
Here's the video for those folks and so more people will see the video:

2020 08 13 I'm Right (8 min 49 sec):​
Published on Aug 13, 2020 by Tickerguy​

Thanks again, Hystckndle, for posting. Much appreciated.
 

Goldhedge

Moderator
Site Mgr
Sr Site Supporter
GIM Hall Of Fame
Joined
Mar 28, 2010
Messages
52,817
Likes
99,747
Location
Rocky Mountains
I heard the 2 second rule years before covid. It's not a bad practice to be 2 seconds behind the car in front of you.

It's the stopping distance required to avoid 'following too close'.

Try it when you're on the road. Doesn't matter how fast you're going in traffic. 2 seconds usually gives you the right distance to stop.

But yeah, to convolute 'covid driving' is way over board.
 

Hystckndle

SWEATEQUITYIS$$$
Site Mgr
Midas Supporter ++
GIM Hall Of Fame
Joined
Mar 28, 2010
Messages
8,088
Likes
10,156
Location
Central Florida
That's a great video! You should have embedded the video in your post because some folks won't click the link you provided.
Here's the video for those folks and so more people will see the video:

2020 08 13 I'm Right (8 min 49 sec):​
Published on Aug 13, 2020 by Tickerguy​

Thanks again, Hystckndle, for posting. Much appreciated.
10-4, thanks for the assist.
On the fly and on the move and don't get to all the available options all the time ...'specially 1st thing in the a.m.
Regards SSAU
 

newmisty

Splodey-Headed
Midas Member
Site Supporter ++
Joined
Mar 31, 2010
Messages
31,783
Likes
49,563
Location
Qmerica
I heard the 2 second rule years before covid. It's not a bad practice to be 2 seconds behind the car in front of you.

It's the stopping distance required to avoid 'following too close'.



Try it when you're on the road. Doesn't matter how fast you're going in traffic. 2 seconds usually gives you the right distance to stop.

But yeah, to convolute 'covid driving' is way over board.
I was always taught to use one car length for every 10 miles per hour. Traveling 60 miles an hour you would keep six car lengths between you and the car in front. I remember two or three seconds being the time that it took to be distracted enough to you the unable to react in time to an emergency.
 

Goldhedge

Moderator
Site Mgr
Sr Site Supporter
GIM Hall Of Fame
Joined
Mar 28, 2010
Messages
52,817
Likes
99,747
Location
Rocky Mountains
Here's the latest 'fear' mongering report everyone will hang their hats on:

New study finds hydroxychloroquine ineffective as preventive antiviral against COVID-19
Article Date

August 17, 2020
Researchers at Case Western Reserve University have added to the growing body of understanding about how hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) is not a possible defense against COVID-19.

Specifically, they found that HCQ is not effective in preventing COVID-19 in patients with lupus and rheumatoid arthritis (RA), suggesting a broader interpretation of HCQ as ineffective preventive medicine for the general population. Their findings were recently published in the Annals of the Rheumatic Diseases.

Many researchers have focused on patients with systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) and RA because HCQ is frequently taken by these patients. Anecdotal reports in the early stages of the pandemic showed these patients were not getting COVID-19. Earlier researchers then explored HCQ in the lab and found it effective against the virus, in addition to its already established anti-inflammatory properties, so testing in people for prevention or treatment at first held some promise. Since those early tests, various more recent studies have shown that HCQ is not effective in treating moderate-to-severe hospitalized cases. Treatment with HCQ early in the disease or for mild cases is still under review.

======

so if you have lupus and rheumatoid arthritis and get cv19 you're out of luck?
 

Goldhedge

Moderator
Site Mgr
Sr Site Supporter
GIM Hall Of Fame
Joined
Mar 28, 2010
Messages
52,817
Likes
99,747
Location
Rocky Mountains
I was always taught to use one car length for every 10 miles per hour. Traveling 60 miles an hour you would keep six car lengths between you and the car in front. I remember two or three seconds being the time that it took to be distracted enough to you the unable to react in time to an emergency.
test it out? See if 2 secs doesn't give you the 10mph 1 car length.

I found the 2 sec rule is easier to implement than measuring car lengths. Just pick a car ahead and count 2 secs and see where you are.
 

Goldhedge

Moderator
Site Mgr
Sr Site Supporter
GIM Hall Of Fame
Joined
Mar 28, 2010
Messages
52,817
Likes
99,747
Location
Rocky Mountains
Cuomo’s Deadly Mistake Was Likely Even Worse Than First Reported
By DAVID HARSANYI
August 11, 2020

Yesterday, New York governor Andrew Cuomo, who signed an executive order forcing nursing homes in his state to accept patients who tested positive for the coronavirus in March, informed reporters there was no need for an independent inquiry into his deadly mistake because no one can be deemed reliable enough to investigate him.

“There is no such thing as a person who is trusted by all Democrats and Republicans. That person doesn’t exist. The Department of Health — those are just numbers. They report our numbers. You can see you what you want in the numbers, but the numbers are the numbers,” Cuomo explained.

Well, using this preposterous logic, no politician could ever be investigated for wrongdoing in the United States. Fortunately, the Associated Press released its own investigation today into the Cuomo scandal and found that it was likely New York had significantly undercounted the deaths resulting from the governor’s mishandling of the elderly at the height of the coronavirus outbreak.

Numbers, it turns out, aren’t always numbers. Unlike other states with major outbreaks, New York’s fatality numbers only include residents who died on nursing-home property, and not the thousands of patients who caught the disease in homes but were transported and ultimately died elsewhere. While the state estimates that around 6,600 perished in nursing homes, the Associated Press puts the real number closer to 11,000 — more than the total fatality count in any state other than New Jersey.

It might even be worse. The Associated Press — which should be praised as one of the only major outlets pursuing this story — has been denied access to New York’s nursing-home death data despite filing public records request three months ago. You might remember all the conspiracy theories that liberal pundits were spreading about Florida’s “manipulated” numbers in May. Here we are in August, and Cuomo, the governor who couldn’t flatten the curve, is now also stonewalling and hiding his state’s death toll.
 

Joe King

Midas Member
Midas Member
Site Supporter ++
Joined
Mar 31, 2010
Messages
10,974
Likes
12,998
Location
Instant Gratification Land
I was always taught to use one car length for every 10 miles per hour. Traveling 60 miles an hour you would keep six car lengths between you and the car in front. I remember two or three seconds being the time that it took to be distracted enough to you the unable to react in time to an emergency.
Two seconds is better. The old "one car length per 10mph" thing, is too short a distance at highway speeds.


Using your example, a car going 60mph covers 176 feet in 2 seconds. That's almost 12 car lengths. Ie:nearly double the car length method.
....and would you not agree that maintianing 12 car lengths @60mph would be safer than a mere 6 car lengths? You'd have twice the distance in which to react.

Edited to add: supposedly the average car length is 14.7 feet
 
Last edited:

newmisty

Splodey-Headed
Midas Member
Site Supporter ++
Joined
Mar 31, 2010
Messages
31,783
Likes
49,563
Location
Qmerica
Two seconds is better. The old "one car length per 10mph" thing, is too short a distance at highway speeds.


Using your example, a car going 60mph covers 176 feet in 2 seconds. That's almost 12 car lengths. Ie:nearly double the car length method.
....and would you not agree that maintianing 12 car lengths @60mph would be safer than a mere 6 car lengths? You'd have twice the distance in which to react.

Edited to add: supposedly the average car length is 14.7 feet
I agree that more is better only relaying what I recall being talk and seemingly very few people adhere to while on the highway let alone 2 seconds.

Around here apparently it's one foot for every 10 mph. :p