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WHO warns vaccinated travellers could still need to be quarantined

London: World Health Organisation scientists say that the vaccines being rolled out are extremely unlikely to eradicate COVID-19*.

The warning poses particular challenges for countries that have aimed to eliminate community transmission through tough border bans, enforced quarantine and lockdowns such as Australia and New Zealand.

Some of the countries with the greatest coronavirus outbreaks have begun vaccinating the public, including Britain and the United States.
WHO's chief scientist Dr Soumya Swaminathan thinks vaccinated travellers could still spread coronavirus.

WHO's chief scientist Dr Soumya Swaminathan told a virtual press conference that there was no evidence yet that people who had been vaccinated could enter countries such as Australia without the risk of spreading the disease.

Asked by The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age what this would mean for Australia's quarantine program, Swaminathan said "I don't believe we have the evidence on any of the vaccines to be confident that it's going to prevent people from actually getting the infection and therefore being able to pass it on".

"We need to assume that people who have been vaccinated also need to take the same precautions till there's a certain level of herd immunity. This is a dynamic in an evolving field."

Australia's stated goal is to suppress all community transmission. Several states, including Victoria, which went into a harsh three-month lockdown earlier this year, have eliminated the virus, recording no new cases for consecutive weeks.

Professor Ian Frazer has identified three areas where federal-state evolution is most obviously needed.

The country's elimination strategy has hinged upon its tough border bans, which prevent Australians from leaving the country unless they are granted an exemption and imposes caps on the number of citizens who can return, after which they must quarantine for two weeks under guard in a hotel.

Dr Mike Ryan, director of WHO's Health Emergencies warned that COVID-19 was here to stay.

"The likely scenario is the virus will become another endemic virus, a virus will remain somewhat of a threat but a very low level threat in the context of an effective global vaccination program," Dr Ryan said.

"The existence of a vaccine, even at a high efficacy, there's no guarantee of eliminating or eradicating an infectious disease, that is a very high bar for us to be able to get over," he said.

"First and foremost we have to focus on saving lives, getting good control of this epidemic so our societies can return to normal and then we will deal with the moonshot of potentially being able to eliminate or eradicate this virus. But at this point, based on the tools and the knowledge we have, that's impossible to say at this point."

Dr David Heymann from London's School of Tropical Medicine and Hygiene went further.

"No matter what we've done to date, it will continue to spread, despite vaccines, despite therapeutics, despite diagnostic tests," he said of the virus. "We have to learn to live with this and use the tools that we can in the best way possible."

He likened the current pandemic to smallpox and the use of the "imperfect vaccine" to control and eventually eradicate the disease.

Health Minister Greg Hunt has been contacted for comment.

https://www.theage.com.au/world/eur...l-need-to-be-quarantined-20201229-p56qk3.html

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WHO warns vaccinated travellers could still need to be quarantined

London: World Health Organisation scientists say that the vaccines being rolled out are extremely unlikely to eradicate COVID-19*.

The warning poses particular challenges for countries that have aimed to eliminate community transmission through tough border bans, enforced quarantine and lockdowns such as Australia and New Zealand.

Some of the countries with the greatest coronavirus outbreaks have begun vaccinating the public, including Britain and the United States.
WHO's chief scientist Dr Soumya Swaminathan thinks vaccinated travellers could still spread coronavirus.

WHO's chief scientist Dr Soumya Swaminathan told a virtual press conference that there was no evidence yet that people who had been vaccinated could enter countries such as Australia without the risk of spreading the disease.

Asked by The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age what this would mean for Australia's quarantine program, Swaminathan said "I don't believe we have the evidence on any of the vaccines to be confident that it's going to prevent people from actually getting the infection and therefore being able to pass it on".

"We need to assume that people who have been vaccinated also need to take the same precautions till there's a certain level of herd immunity. This is a dynamic in an evolving field."

Australia's stated goal is to suppress all community transmission. Several states, including Victoria, which went into a harsh three-month lockdown earlier this year, have eliminated the virus, recording no new cases for consecutive weeks.

Professor Ian Frazer has identified three areas where federal-state evolution is most obviously needed.

The country's elimination strategy has hinged upon its tough border bans, which prevent Australians from leaving the country unless they are granted an exemption and imposes caps on the number of citizens who can return, after which they must quarantine for two weeks under guard in a hotel.

Dr Mike Ryan, director of WHO's Health Emergencies warned that COVID-19 was here to stay.

"The likely scenario is the virus will become another endemic virus, a virus will remain somewhat of a threat but a very low level threat in the context of an effective global vaccination program," Dr Ryan said.

"The existence of a vaccine, even at a high efficacy, there's no guarantee of eliminating or eradicating an infectious disease, that is a very high bar for us to be able to get over," he said.

"First and foremost we have to focus on saving lives, getting good control of this epidemic so our societies can return to normal and then we will deal with the moonshot of potentially being able to eliminate or eradicate this virus. But at this point, based on the tools and the knowledge we have, that's impossible to say at this point."

Dr David Heymann from London's School of Tropical Medicine and Hygiene went further.

"No matter what we've done to date, it will continue to spread, despite vaccines, despite therapeutics, despite diagnostic tests," he said of the virus. "We have to learn to live with this and use the tools that we can in the best way possible."

He likened the current pandemic to smallpox and the use of the "imperfect vaccine" to control and eventually eradicate the disease.

Health Minister Greg Hunt has been contacted for comment.

https://www.theage.com.au/world/eur...l-need-to-be-quarantined-20201229-p56qk3.html

*emphasis is mine.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. So I sure as hell will not.
 

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>How did US NIH money get to CHINA for research at a BSL 4 Wuhan virology lab?!



Correct.



Gates, Obama, Fauci.
 

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I just sent this report to my daughter the nurse practitioner for her take on it. She's still convinced that Covid is a threat and has taken the first vaccine shot (to protect her little ones according to her) I've asked her to not take the second dose but it appears she's going to do it anyway (for her kids). I haven't given up hope but I fear I won't be able to stop her
 

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I just sent this report to my daughter the nurse practitioner for her take on it. She's still convinced that Covid is a threat and has taken the first vaccine shot (to protect her little ones according to her) I've asked her to not take the second dose but it appears she's going to do it anyway (for her kids). I haven't given up hope but I fear I won't be able to stop her
ask her if they made a record of her taking it...

You can go into any Target or Walgreens and get the flu shot... I haven't, but I suspect they don't keep records of that in a central DB
 

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I just sent this report to my daughter the nurse practitioner for her take on it. She's still convinced that Covid is a threat and has taken the first vaccine shot (to protect her little ones according to her) I've asked her to not take the second dose but it appears she's going to do it anyway (for her kids). I haven't given up hope but I fear I won't be able to stop her
Maybe she thinks that the numbers in the tweet could be false.... if she dug then out herself it might help with acceptance, gl
 

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https://www.10news.com/news/local-n...r-covid-19-eight-days-after-receiving-vaccine

ER nurse tests positive for COVID-19 eight days after receiving vaccine
days after receiving vaccine





Health experts are weighing in after a local nurse tested positive for COVID-19 more than a week after receiving the Pfizer vaccine.




By: Michael Chen
Posted at 4:03 PM, Dec 28, 2020

and last updated 12:16 PM, Dec 29, 2020
SAN DIEGO (KGTV) - Health experts are weighing in after a local nurse tested positive for COVID-19 more than a week after receiving the Pfizer vaccine.
In a Facebook message posted on December 18, Matthew W., an ER nurse at at two different local hospitals, talked about receiving the Pfizer vaccine that day. He told ABC 10News his arm was sore for a day but he suffered no other side effects.

Six days later on Christmas Eve -- after working a shift in the COVID-19 unit -- Matthew, 45, became sick. He got the chills and later came down with muscle aches and fatigue.
The day after Christmas, he went to a drive-up hospital testing site and tested positive for COVID-19.
"It's not unexpected at all. If you work through the numbers, this is exactly what we’d expect to happen if someone was exposed," said Dr. Christian Ramers, an infectious disease specialist with Family Health Centers of San Diego. He serves on the clinical advisory panel for the county’s vaccine rollout.
He points out, it is possible Matthew was infected before receiving the vaccine, as the incubation period may be as much as two weeks. Dr. Ramers says if Matthew did contract it after the vaccine, it’s still in line with what we know.
"We know from the vaccine clinical trials that it’s going to take about 10 to 14 days for you to start to develop protection from the vaccine," said Dr. Ramers.
Dr. Ramers says he knows of several other local cases where health care workers became infected around the time they received the vaccine. He says all the cases illustrate the fact that results aren’t immediate. Even after you start receiving some protection, it won't be full protection.
"That first dose we think gives you somewhere around 50%, and you need that second dose to get up to 95%," said Dr. Ramers.
Dr. Ramers says Matthew’s story also shows that even with vaccines, the pandemic isn’t going to turn around instantly.
"You hear heath practitioners being very optimistic about it being the beginning of the end, but it’s going to be a slow roll, weeks to months as we roll out the vaccine," said Dr. Ramers.
He adds this case is a good reminder of why masks, handwashing, and other COVID protocols are important, even after receiving the vaccine.
Matthew says he’s feeling better since his symptoms peaked on Christmas Day but still feels fatigued.
 

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I mean they have been telling you that the vaccine won't prevent you from getting or transmitting the virus. Nor from having the mask or social distancing mandates. So why again are you dumb enough to take the shot?
 

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I mean they have been telling you that the vaccine won't prevent you from getting or transmitting the virus. Nor from having the mask or social distancing mandates. So why again are you dumb enough to take the shot?
Because the man on teevee said so
 

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As soon as the liberals started saying the blacks needed to get the vaccine first because of vulnerabilities, I got a sharp mental image of canaries in the coal mine

Libs always helping blacks to death
 

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As soon as the liberals started saying the blacks needed to get the vaccine first because of vulnerabilities, I got a sharp mental image of canaries in the coal mine

Libs always helping blacks to death
They are walking away so the south of the border & sand people refugees are the new chosen ones......
 

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Newsmax has some interesting ads. Tom Selleck pimping out one and then there is Roseland Capitol whoring barbaric relics. They must get takers or they wouldnt play the ads.
I don't trust Newsmax. There's just something there that doesn't ring true to me. I've had that same feeling about Infowars and Faux News before too
 

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https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...na-congressman-luke-letlow-dead-from-covid-19
He must have pissed someone off! He could have slipped on a banana peel and broke his neckfor all we know. Everyone dies from the Covid now according to the media!
Louisiana Congressman Luke Letlow Dead From COVID-19
Louisiana’s newest Republican member of the U.S. House, Luke Letlow, has died from complications related to COVID-19 only days before being sworn into office.

By Associated Press, Wire Service Content Dec. 29, 2020, at 10:01 p.m.
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Louisiana Congressman Luke Letlow Dead From COVID-19
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Luke Letlow, R-Start, chief of staff to exiting U.S. Rep. Ralph Abraham, speaks after signing up to run for Louisiana's 5th Congressional District, on July 22, 2020, in Baton Rouge, La. (AP Photo/Melinda Deslatte) THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
BY MELINDA DESLATTE, Associated Press
BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) — Luke Letlow, Louisiana's newest Republican member of the U.S. House, died Tuesday night from complications related to COVID-19 only days before being sworn into office. He was 41 years old.

Letlow spokesman Andrew Bautsch confirmed the congressman-elect's death at Ochsner-LSU Health Shreveport.
“The family appreciates the numerous prayers and support over the past days but asks for privacy during this difficult and unexpected time,” Bautsch said in a statement. “A statement from the family along with funeral arrangements will be announced at a later time.”
The incoming congressman, elected in a December runoff and set to take office in January, was admitted to a Monroe hospital on Dec. 19 after testing positive for the coronavirus disease. He was later transferred to the Shreveport facility and placed in intensive care.
Letlow is survived by his wife, Julia Barnhill Letlow, and two children.
 
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We need to stop obeying...

 

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I bet he didn’t take HCQ, zinc, and Azithromycin
That's how Democrats create the deadly virus narrative (1 min 45 sec):​
Published on Dec 30, 2020 by The News Junkie's Cartoons​
 

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That's how Democrats create the deadly virus narrative (1 min 45 sec):​
Published on Dec 30, 2020 by The News Junkie's Cartoons​
Yeah but now they say heart attacks and the flu, and car accidents and even cancer are cured by the corona virus now since they don't happen any more. Everyone dies of the corona virus now!

I hate this drunken old skank
 

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How is it that we elect such either fucking clueless, or total lying idiots to office? Oh wait, the election process in this country is becoming clearer by the day...
 

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How is it that we elect such either fucking clueless, or total lying idiots to office? Oh wait, the election process in this country is becoming clearer by the day...
We don't elect them!
 

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Trump indefinitely extends pandemic-related halt on international visas



Dec. 30 (UPI) President Donald Trump on Wednesday indefinitely extended a suspension of international visas in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Trump said restrictions on green cards and various types of work visas during the pandemic originally set to expire Thursday – will remain in place "until terminated by the president." "The secretary of state, the secretary of health and human services and the secretary of homeland security shall, as appropriate and as United States foreign policy interests and continuing public health risks may warrant, submit a joint recommendation for such termination," Trump said in a memorandum. Trump initially signed an order placing a hold on the issuance of new green cards in April and then expanded it to include H1-B, H-4, L and most J visas as well as some H2-B visas with an exception for food processing workers in June.



H-1B visas grant temporary work authorizations to people with highly specialized knowledge and are commonly utilized in the tech industry, while H-4 visas are issued to immediate family members of people who hold H-1B visas. Issuances of H-1B visas are currently capped to 85,000 annually. H-2 visas provide temporary work for agriculture, construction, forestry and other industries; L visas are for temporary intracompany transfers who serve in management positions or have specialized knowledge; and J visas are provided for study-based exchange visitor programs.



Joe Biden has pledged to reverse many of Trump's immigration policies, including travel bans from majority-Muslim countries and policies separating children from parents at the border. He's also vowed to reform the visa system and restore refugee admissions to their levels prior to Trump's presidency.

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2020/12/30/Trump-indefinitely-extends-pandemic-related-halt-on-international-visas/2451609370706/
 

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