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Coronavirus aid bill includes $3,000 for families, $4 trillion liquidity for Fed - Mnuchin

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I wont be getting any. "Thats what she said" Ahhahahahahahahahahahaa...... I love that show. :laughing::belly laugh:
 

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Listening to a rogan podcast now. They said Trump Tweeted money is coming except for everyone who tweeted not my president. I wouldn't want to offend you and send you a check .. Something to that effect.. LMAO. :laughing:

They said he deleted it but still funny as F
 

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Why can't I just have my 2018 incomes taxes paid back? Well just call it a rebate, not a handout! Even better, just stop taking money out of my current paycheck every week!
Supposedly that is on the agenda too as long as this WuFlu is a PITA.
 

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Supposedly that is on the agenda too as long as this WuFlu is a PITA.
I'm not sure why they insist on social handouts. They need to stop robbing us for a while and get their hands out of our pockets. The working people are the most affected, not the welfare takers. They already are feeding from the government teat!
 

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As usual, it's only for taxpayers and not All Americans including non taxpayers.
Cant wait to see the comments on the tax honesty board. Lots of non taxpayers there that know the truth.. My take is if your a non taxpayer you are way ahead anyway so no big deal.
For the rest of you, enjoy your free money. You paid for it. :)
 

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OK, I have been to town TWICE today (60 ish miles round trip) & had my head frozen by the dermatologist, so don't beat up too hard if I posted this earlier. somewhere here.

MY rant:
2 days ago, Pres. Trump & V.P. Pence were TOGETHER, in a room, with Mnuchin & a bunch of reporters - WTF ! If they don't fly on the same plane together, for obvious reasons, WTF are they doing together, in a room full of possibly infected reporters ?
1. Did they get a secret "anti venom" to protect them from CV-19?
2. Do they know this is a HOAX?
3. Are they & their "handlers" stupid ?
I will kick out #3 & leave all of you to choose between 1 & 2.

This really baffles me ! :shit happens:

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I said the same thing yesterday. Happy to see I'm not the only one that noticed.

OK, I have been to town TWICE today (60 ish miles round trip) & had my head frozen by the dermatologist, so don't beat up too hard if I posted this earlier. somewhere here.

MY rant:
2 days ago, Pres. Trump & V.P. Pence were TOGETHER, in a room, with Mnuchin & a bunch of reporters - WTF ! If they don't fly on the same plane together, for obvious reasons, WTF are they doing together, in a room full of possibly infected reporters ?
1. Did they get a secret "anti venom" to protect them from CV-19?
2. Do they know this is a HOAX?
3. Are they & their "handlers" stupid ?
I will kick out #3 & leave all of you to choose between 1 & 2.

This really baffles me ! :shit happens:

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I have come to the belief that this type of chart is Irrelevant.
It is never meant to be paid back. So what is the dif if the numer is 1 of 100 T ?
It is NOT gonna be paid back by me, my kid or their kids.
So....in light of that...like she said...
" What difference does it make "...lol lol lol.
It is the system. NON pegged to the gold standard at all.
( see Total Credit market Debt chart stating at say....1982 )
It is NOT the guy. Or guys or gals.
Free your mind.
( See Mr Paradise post above---there is a guy who is USING a realization to improve his lot...
darn impressive that post as he has moved past a host of things IMHO )
Debt backed by Debt.
NOT gold standard, NOT silver, NOT anything but some columns on a sheet and mumbo jumbo.
It is ALL that can be done. It is ALL they have.
It is ALL we have, ( in the argument of reasonablility ) without
the place being Beirut or Damascus or pick one.
Mogadishu, gosh...so many places.
If it was NOT this way life as we know it would cease.
Perhaps that is what the whole virus " thing " is about. The engineered " system "
Now, if my belief of my above garbage labels me a Socialist...then " COOL !! "
I am also responsible for global warming and Apartheid ( spelling? ) also.
I wear some hats proudly today.
Seriously though, after ALL of the stuff that we have talked about on this board...
think about what would happen in a few short weeks , in light of current events,
if they did NOT float a whole bunch of digit $ out there to anyone and everyone.
Just what is it we are advocating ?
Ehhhhhh....
Back to work here...all good.
Regards to all,
Haystack
 

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I have come to the belief that this type of chart is Irrelevant.
It is never meant to be paid back. So what is the dif if the numer is 1 of 100 T ?
It is NOT gonna be paid back by me, my kid or their kids.
So....in light of that...like she said...
" What difference does it make "...lol lol lol.
It is the system. NON pegged to the gold standard at all.
( see Total Credit market Debt chart stating at say....1982 )
It is NOT the guy. Or guys or gals.
Free your mind.
( See Mr Paradise post above---there is a guy who is USING a realization to improve his lot...
darn impressive that post as he has moved past a host of things IMHO )
Debt backed by Debt.
NOT gold standard, NOT silver, NOT anything but some columns on a sheet and mumbo jumbo.
It is ALL that can be done. It is ALL they have.
It is ALL we have, ( in the argument of reasonablility ) without
the place being Beirut or Damascus or pick one.
Mogadishu, gosh...so many places.
If it was NOT this way life as we know it would cease.
Perhaps that is what the whole virus " thing " is about. The engineered " system "
Now, if my belief of my above garbage labels me a Socialist...then " COOL !! "
I am also responsible for global warming and Apartheid ( spelling? ) also.
I wear some hats proudly today.
Seriously though, after ALL of the stuff that we have talked about on this board...
think about what would happen in a few short weeks , in light of current events,
if they did NOT float a whole bunch of digit $ out there to anyone and everyone.
Just what is it we are advocating ?
Ehhhhhh....
Back to work here...all good.
Regards to all,
Haystack
Agree, especially when I found out landline telephone communications still collect a Federal Tax that was past decades ago to pay for the Spanish-American War.
 

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A whole page of add-ons to utility bills.
And NO DEBT has ever been paid-off since the Civil War.
That should have clued every American in about the scheme.
 

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I have come to the belief that this type of chart is Irrelevant.
It is never meant to be paid back. So what is the dif if the numer is 1 of 100 T ?
It is NOT gonna be paid back by me, my kid or their kids.
So....in light of that...like she said...
" What difference does it make "...lol lol lol.
It is the system. NON pegged to the gold standard at all.
( see Total Credit market Debt chart stating at say....1982 )
It is NOT the guy. Or guys or gals.
Free your mind.
( See Mr Paradise post above---there is a guy who is USING a realization to improve his lot...
darn impressive that post as he has moved past a host of things IMHO )
Debt backed by Debt.
NOT gold standard, NOT silver, NOT anything but some columns on a sheet and mumbo jumbo.
It is ALL that can be done. It is ALL they have.
It is ALL we have, ( in the argument of reasonablility ) without
the place being Beirut or Damascus or pick one.
Mogadishu, gosh...so many places.
If it was NOT this way life as we know it would cease.
Perhaps that is what the whole virus " thing " is about. The engineered " system "
Now, if my belief of my above garbage labels me a Socialist...then " COOL !! "
I am also responsible for global warming and Apartheid ( spelling? ) also.
I wear some hats proudly today.
Seriously though, after ALL of the stuff that we have talked about on this board...
think about what would happen in a few short weeks , in light of current events,
if they did NOT float a whole bunch of digit $ out there to anyone and everyone.
Just what is it we are advocating ?
Ehhhhhh....
Back to work here...all good.
Regards to all,
Haystack
Trump realizes this, which is why spending debt is not something he's afraid of doing at this point. He has the vaporware checkbook containing unlimited virtual FRNs and he's using it to fund what's needed to recover the country. I truly believe that!
 

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Trump realizes this, which is why spending debt is not something he's afraid of doing at this point. He has the vaporware checkbook containing unlimited virtual FRNs and he's using it to fund what's needed to recover the country. I truly believe that!
10-4,
I mean...what choice is there ??? I mean really ???
considering the state of affairs and what has ALREADY been done over the years.
This is a culmination and indeed is a can kicking thing really.
Of course there are those who will say " take the pain " etc etc etc.
I get all that, but the scope of that is a whole different animal.
 

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Tramp at a press conference....I can hear it now.... “I had a great plan. Many say it was a perfect plan. I think it is. Yes, I had a perfect plan, the biggest, greatest plan, the world said it's never been done, couldn't be done, doing the impossible is what I do, but Democrats — as they always do — it’s all they can do. They have no plan, they have no leaders, they’re pitiful really, why I've even had to show them how to properly socialize America... But we’re winning. We’re doing great stuff, tremendous stuff — stuff like no pandemic has ever seen before. And we will win. We will. Already the rest of the world is looking at me and saying great things about what I'm doing. ...”
 
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Tramp at a press conference....I can hear it now.... “I had a great plan. Many say it was a perfect plan. I think it is. Yes, I had a perfect plan, the biggest, greatest plan, the world said it's never been done, couldn't be done, doing the impossible is what I do, but Democrats — as they always do — it’s all they can do. They have no plan, they have no leaders, they’re pitiful really, why I've even had to show them how to properly socialize America... But we’re winning. We’re doing great stuff, tremendous stuff — stuff like no pandemic has ever seen before. And we will win. We will. Already the rest of the world is looking at me and saying great things about what I'm doing. ...”
Yep, that pretty much nails it. I love the guy!
 

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Everyone loves politicians when they handing out free money.

I'm off to spend my FRN's that are going to be worth less soon.. sadly I don't get any free money or any other free handout from any government.
 

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Everyone loves politicians when they handing out free money.
I'm off to spend my FRN's that are going to be worth less soon.. sadly I don't get any free money or any other free handout from any government.
OTOH,
Pretty admirable....all that you have done.
And I have no clue really of the scope other than reading your posts and surmising.
But I gots a big imagination. :)
Just saying.
 

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10-4,
I mean...what choice is there ??? I mean really ???
considering the state of affairs and what has ALREADY been done over the years.
This is a culmination and indeed is a can kicking thing really.
Of course there are those who will say " take the pain " etc etc etc.
I get all that, but the scope of that is a whole different animal.
Isn't this what this site has been talking about forever? Who's ready to get it on?
 

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Looks like they may be plenty of jobs for those willing to relocate and actually work for a living. Just like the old days in America!

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Property tax is paid through rents so include those peeps too.
We could probably make that work but section 8 renters as well as all others paying rent with taxpayer funds through any other programs should be excluded
 
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Damned state politicians ought to be sending some FRNs back to us too.

Everybody pays big state sales and/or income taxes, not to mention property taxes, school taxes, sewer district taxes, on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on...
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Looks like they may be plenty of jobs for those willing to relocate and actually work for a living. Just like the old days in America!

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That was talked about in the news conference yesterday. Whatever that designation is for Ag workers is getting priority.
 

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Isn't this what this site has been talking about forever?
Who's ready to get it on?
GoldisMoney1 and 2 as a whole has advocated that ?
Or has it been improving your lot for yourself and your family and being prepared for things that come at us
so that it is an inconvenience instead of a hurt ?
Yeah sure, there are some who yack about total collapse and anarchy etc etc etc stuff.
( The Patriot book series type collapse ) They have been at it for years. " Click Click " and all of that.
But really ?
Who is ready to " get it on ? "
Sorry, not following what you are getting at. Perhaps you can explain though so I will understand more.
I think there is a lot ( repeat a LOT ) of death involved with that and I do not,
after reading many of your posts for many years, think you are referring to the
same thought process as I in that regard...but perhaps you are, I dunno.
IMHO, does not matter where you live in the states...
east or west of the Mississippi, north or south,
perhaps geographical proximity is a factor but IMHO only a time factor considering the population and the sheer number of people inside our borders now. It is a math thing for me.
A total collapse would make all of the fiction books
tame and there are relatively few or groups ( if any outside of military bases and yeah I know of many of the private groups...been to some of the meetings ) or compounds who are prepared to take on such a reality.

The very expedience of the $ release is IMHO what they are doing to mitigate something that
yeah, some wish for, but truly it would be a living ( or dying ) hell.
I do not wish, hope, or pray for anyone I know or my family to have to deal with that.
( notice I did not say the word prepare...I wish everyone was prepared , but reality is they are not...far from it )

IMHO some that hold the strings to the digits, thank God, realize that.
In many many ways, Hypertiger was 100% correct.
" Inputs greater than previous Inputs "
Actually, per taxpayer, and nominally, although perhaps not in actual individual hand,
Sir Irons' figure above might be more of a reality of the situation that the $ 1000 plus kids or whatever the hay
it is up to now.
800B.......it is a start.
Just yacking, all good.
Regards HH,
Haystack
 

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GoldisMoney1 and 2 as a whole has advocated that ?
Or has it been improving your lot for yourself and your family and being prepared for things that come at us
so that it is an inconvenience instead of a hurt ?
Yeah sure, there are some who yack about total collapse and anarchy etc etc etc stuff.
( The Patriot book series type collapse ) They have been at it for years. " Click Click " and all of that.
But really ?
Who is ready to " get it on ? "
Sorry, not following what you are getting at. Perhaps you can explain though so I will understand more.
I think there is a lot ( repeat a LOT ) of death involved with that and I do not,
after reading many of your posts for many years, think you are referring to the
same thought process as I in that regard...but perhaps you are, I dunno.
IMHO, does not matter where you live in the states...
east or west of the Mississippi, north or south,
perhaps geographical proximity is a factor but IMHO only a time factor considering the population and the sheer number of people inside our borders now. It is a math thing for me.
A total collapse would make all of the fiction books
tame and there are relatively few or groups ( if any outside of military bases and yeah I know of many of the private groups...been to some of the meetings ) or compounds who are prepared to take on such a reality.

The very expedience of the $ release is IMHO what they are doing to mitigate something that
yeah, some wish for, but truly it would be a living ( or dying ) hell.
I do not wish, hope, or pray for anyone I know or my family to have to deal with that.
( notice I did not say the word prepare...I wish everyone was prepared , but reality is they are not...far from it )

IMHO some that hold the strings to the digits, thank God, realize that.
In many many ways, Hypertiger was 100% correct.
" Inputs greater than previous Inputs "
Actually, per taxpayer, and nominally, although perhaps not in actual individual hand,
Sir Irons' figure above might be more of a reality of the situation that the $ 1000 plus kids or whatever the hay
it is up to now.
800B.......it is a start.
Just yacking, all good.
Regards HH,
Haystack
Certainly wasn't cheering for a collapse. What I've heard from many here is that it is immenant. Perhaps I was reading it wrong.
 

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Actually, per taxpayer, and nominally, although perhaps not in actual individual hand,
Sir Irons' figure above might be more of a reality of the situation that the $ 1000 plus kids or whatever the hay

Haystack
Back when bush bailed out the banks and the auto companies and stuck the US taxpayers with the bill, Glenn Beck broke down the actual numbers involved, it's an entire chapter in his book arguing with idiots. The gist of it is:

For what the government spent on bailouts it could have given every American adult approx $120,000.

With that 120k the people would have bailed out all of the other industries involved and drastically improved their own lives in the process.

Many would have paid off their houses and cars and all other debt effectively bailing out the banks. Damn near everybody would have bought new cars and trucks effectively bailing out the automotive industry. The list goes on and on, people would have spent the money and the stimulus to the economy would have been epic. But most importantly everybody would have had the chance to improve their lives in a drastic manner.

Bush and his deep state owners did not give one shit about improving the lives of the American people. Quite the opposite. Their intent was to impoverish and spread misery and break the spirit of the American workforce.

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“When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin!”
 

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Back when bush bailed out the banks and the auto companies and stuck the US taxpayers with the bill, Glenn Beck broke down the actual numbers involved, it's an entire chapter in his book arguing with idiots. The gist of it is:

For what the government spent on bailouts it could have given every American adult approx $120,000.

With that 120k the people would have bailed out all of the other industries involved and drastically improved their own lives in the process.

Many would have paid off their houses and cars and all other debt effectively bailing out the banks. Damn near everybody would have bought new cars and trucks effectively bailing out the automotive industry. The list goes on and on, people would have spent the money and the stimulus to the economy would have been epic. But most importantly everybody would have had the chance to improve their lives in a drastic manner.

Bush and his deep state owners did not give one shit about improving the lives of the American people. Quite the opposite. Their intent was to impoverish and spread misery and break the spirit of the American workforce.

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Exactly, watched him a fair bit b4 he went off mainline here.
The numbers floated around are mind boggling
I think there was / are 200 million or so adults, that would be about 20 + T
( I know I know 24...whats a few T between friends )
Millions of people would have done a lotta good with $ like that.
Same ole same ole though. The corps will absorb a large amount of it.
Not to mention the sucker fish everywhere.
And the watering down filters out into the rest of the worlds holdings.
And this time the leveraging is more than it ever was.
" New and Improved "
Who knows the real numbers ?
" To da Moon Alice "
Whaddaya think is tagged onto the bottom of the ( this ) bill ?
Not to mention what will be at the bottom of the next couple because
it ain't , this one, over yet for awhile.
The 1000, yeah, is but a crumb to the peasants,
( maybe ) perhaps enough to pacify the masses etc etc etc.
Welfare State will take it and run and lap it up.
The " solution " to the problem while over here they do xyz.
And there will be more to come imo.
The 10,000 ...better number...I wish actually...
heh, wifelet and I would convert anything into good tangible use.
And these guys, they do not give a shit about anyone either.
Lookit at them for the most part.
Best part about being at GIM was cyphering some of it out and being more prepared.
To me, that is out of the way and only inconvenienced.
It is only a flesh wound.
 
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