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- that doesn't take into account that a good number of people have anti-bodies to the flu (at least a few strains)... and NOBODY is immune to this new virus...
Not so, bro. Susceptibility is dependent on a particular receptor being present in the host. For Asians, the receptor (I'm doing this offa the top of my head) is particularly happy to grab the virus. Not so much for Caucasians. The Caucasians that have died are folks like yer Unca:

Incredibly handsome, a lean look, Old and creaky. And the posted death rate -- I repeat -- is no worse than the flu season in 2017.

Antibodies for one type of flu may even assist another type. But let's say those folks who got sick as shit two years ago are almost certainly two years older. I'd bet onnit.

That group replaces the Old Fart Folks of yesteryear that died off in flu season. It don't make that they got through the last one... today, they are up on the target range.
 

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Just be careful about the number of "confirmed cases" you are hearing about. The test kits do not distinguish between really bad bug and the common cold version. Beer is beer. It's all beer.
 

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Well, now that the sanctuary cities/locations will no longer be getting federal funds they have to come up with a new excuse to keep the OPM flowing.

15 cases... I think there should be some standard other than the declaration of a state of an emergency to get the funds. It would kind of be nice to see Trump play hardball about it. We'll see.
 

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hahaha

here comes the calvary...


The governor is calling on the National Guard to help support the containment area. Cuomo said the troops will be deployed "to deliver food to homes, to help with the cleaning of public spaces."
 

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Orlando was a ghost town. It had normal Florida traffic which isn't good, but it was better than the regular chaos.
 

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Daughter is an IU student. The school has banned all domestic school sponsored travel outside of the state and will be suspending all in class lectures and classes for the next 3 weeks....all classes will be online.....this is in response to 2 IU students that got sick.......while in Italy......smh
 

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The OFFICIAL death rate for those infected is still 6%. That is one out of 16 infected will die.

On the other side of the coin... that is about the death rate for flu in 2017. Remember? No hype? Hm.

Not to be obtuse: what I am sayin' is this virus-gross horror is about par with the last one they made. We sure are a tough species.
Sorry Walt but those numbers cant be right. The Yearly death rate from flu in the USA is about .1 percent. Even in 2017 where the flu killed 80000 the percentage is nowhere near wuflu numbers.
 

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I have a feeling the Chinese Communist Party will never recover from this.

The Italian mortality rate will prove that the CCP was purposefully low balling the numbers for political reasons. The world didn’t trust the CCP to begin with, now there will be no doubt. Other country totals will further reinforce the point.

The Chinese people who survive will eventually get the truth out. Look for a rebound effect in the HK protests with more of them across the country afterwards and a bitter, grieving world will be supporting the people of China against the CCP.

Add to it, new calls to diversify the supply chain, especially in pharmaceutical supplies, China will continue to be on the losing side of the equation.
 

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Virus protection
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS
Last evening dining out with friends, one of their uncles, who's graduated with a master's degree and who worked in Shenzhen Hospital (Guangdong Province, China) sent him the following notes on Coronavirus for guidance:
1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold
2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose.
3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun.
4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne.
5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap.
6. On fabric it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will kill it.
7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice.
8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on.
9. You should also gargle as a prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm water will suffice.
10. Can't emphasise enough - drink plenty of water!
THE SYMPTOMS
1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 days
2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further.
3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing.
4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention.
SPREAD THE WORD - PLEASE SHARE.

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Sorry Walt but those numbers cant be right. The Yearly death rate from flu in the USA is about .1 percent. Even in 2017 where the flu killed 80000 the percentage is nowhere near wuflu numbers.
It really depends on which country you use to calculate the mortality rate. Italy has a high rate, while S. Korea and Japan each have <1% rates. There are definitely other factors at play right now.
 

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It really depends on which country you use to calculate the mortality rate. Italy has a high rate, while S. Korea and Japan each have <1% rates. There are definitely other factors at play right now.
I think its 90% dependent on the actual test used. If you are doing drive through tests of the common cold then your death rate will be really low, because not many really had Covid19.
 

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It really depends on which country you use to calculate the mortality rate. Italy has a high rate, while S. Korea and Japan each have <1% rates. There are definitely other factors at play right now.
OK but lets just look at world wide numbers. According to Johns Hopkins https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 as of right now we are at 119,004 cases and 4284 deaths.

So as it stands we are at a 3-4% death rate.

With that in mind we MUST throw out the Bogus numbers from the CHICOMS as they are not even bothering to send figures to the west any longer.

Why would they stop sending information? I'll tell you why. Its a full on cluster fuck of biblical proportions over there. Millions are infected and 10's of thousands are dead and dying.

Might be time to face the truth, this is not going away.
 

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Has anyone seen a real scientist?


From Jon Rappoport

Coronavirus: what real science would look like, if it existed


(To read about Jon's mega-collection, The Matrix Revealed, click here.)


This is one of the most important articles I've written on the current "epidemic."

When you look at the justification for all the lunatic measures being taken to "stem the tide" of the coronavirus, you come to the simplicity of CASES.

How many cases are there? How many people are "infected?"

And the answer to that comes from what?

From tests. From diagnostic tests.

Of course, some people are ridiculously labeled "cases" without tests. I've explained that nonsense in other articles.

Outside of China, the most widely used test is called the PCR. It must be done with tremendous care, because contamination with irrelevant microbes and cellular material can yield a misleading and absurd result.

The PCR, it is claimed, can take a tiny, tiny bit of material from a patient and blow it up many times, so it can be identified. "This is the coronavirus. This patient is infected."

Not only that, the test's proponents assert that, quite easily, the PCR can also determine the AMOUNT of virus in the patient's body. Why is that vitally important? Because, to even begin talking about the patient ever getting sick, he must have millions and millions of coronavirus actively replicating in his body.

There are people (and I'm one of them) who challenge the claim that the PCR can show how much virus is in the patient's body. The experts try to brush us off---we don't understand the intricacies of the test, it's highly technical, we're not qualified to make a judgment, etc.

I've been searching for a way around this futile argument. In the process, I've discovered something important about the PCR. I SEE NO EVIDENCE THAT THE ACCURACY OF THE TEST HAS EVER BEEN PROVEN.

Let me explain. You bring your car to a good repair shop. The mechanics hook it up to a device and run a test to diagnose what's causing the car to stall. Who says their tests are accurate? At some point in the past, these diagnostic procedures have been vetted, to make sure they work properly.

And sure enough, when the mechanics say, "We've found the problem," and when they correct that problem, you drive the car and it doesn't stall anymore. This is called a real-life result.

This is not the situation re the PCR. Its proponents claim it can count how much virus is in a patient's body---how much of a particular virus. But where is the proof, in real-life terms, that the PCR can do that? How was that proof ever established?

When I say proof, I don't mean technical mumbo-jumbo. I'm not referring to the highly dense language these scientists use among themselves. I'm talking about real live human patients, and results.

After all, if the PCR is being used to diagnose people, and if the results are being used to count the number of coronavirus cases in various countries, and if the number of cases forms the basis for, say, locking down the whole of Italy in a mass quarantine...THE TEST IS IMPORTANT, WOULDN'T YOU SAY?

I have seen no wide-ranging proof that the PCR was ever checked properly, when it was first introduced, to show it could do what researchers say it can do.

WHO TESTED THE TEST?

I have come up with a process---a simple process---which will check the veracity of the PCR. It should have been carried out decades ago. The fact that it wasn't is an enormous scandal.

Here it is.

From a hundred patients, very small tissue samples are taken. The PCR lab people don't take the samples. They don't ever see the patients or know who they are.

The lab professionals run these hundred samples through the PCR, obtain results, and then report: what virus did they find in each case, and how much of that virus did they find?

Let's say, in six instances, the lab techs claim they found a great amount of virus in the patients.

Well, those patients should be sick.

Are they? ARE THEY?

"We've determined that patients 4, 9, 32, 54, 65, and 86 all have a huge amount of virus in their bodies."

"Interesting. Thanks. Let's see. Hmm. Turns out these people are fit as a fiddle. Not sick. I guess your test didn't work. It's a flop."

Or maybe the test does work. The six patients are sick. LET'S FIND OUT. IN THE WORLD, NOT IN JOURNALS.

That's what I mean by real-life results. No jive, no tap dancing.

There is more. This experiment with the hundred patients? It should be done, not just once, but many times. A hundred patients here at this facility, a hundred patients there at that facility. Thirty or forty different facilities, and thirty or forty different sets of a hundred patients. It should be done by independent scientists without conflicts of interest.

It should have been done decades ago. I see no evidence that it was.

THE TEST WAS NEVER PROPERLY TESTED. A GIANT SCANDAL.

Think about what that means.

Think it through.

Trace all the implications.

For example, imagine you're the political leader of a country, with 100 "reported cases of the coronavirus." Are you going to lock it down? Are you?

Think about everything that's happening now in the world. Use your intelligence.

THINK IT THROUGH.

Don't jump on the fear bandwagon. Don't jump on the "scientific" b.s. bandwagon.

Use your mind.

You're interested in scandals? I've just presented one. It's blaring with a thousand trumpets, right out in the open.