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follow-up - NOT "politically correct", but TRUE =

Philip, Duke of Edinburgh (Queen of England's "consort" - husband)

“If it has got four legs and it is not a chair, if it has got two wings and it flies but is not an aeroplane, and if it swims and it is not a submarine, the Cantonese will eat it.”



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follow-up - NOT "politically correct", but TRUE =

Philip, Duke of Edinburgh (Queen of England's "consort" - husband)

“If it has got four legs and it is not a chair, if it has got two wings and it flies but is not an aeroplane, and if it swims and it is not a submarine, the Cantonese will eat it.”



and


and


uhhh I listened but quickly tuned him out when he plugged climate change and a few other tidbits that did not sound , smell , or walk just right after I leaned on the idea a little...

so I guess it is just this dude’s interpretation of this fluid situation...
 

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Why I Am NOT Concerned About the Coronavirus
By Chris Centeno, MD / March 8, 2020
https://regenexx.com/blog/why-i-am-not-concerned-about-the-coronavirus/

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How Lethal Is COVID-19?​
The most accurate data on case fatalities is from the only natural experiment that exists, the Diamond Princess cruise. Why a cruise ship? Because this is a closed environment where we can accurately measure every person who gets sick and know the real number of people who perish based on that exposure.​
The cruise ship data shows a fatality rate of 0.85%. All of the people that perished were over 70, which is much more like the seasonal flu. In addition, the ability of the virus to spread was again, not that impressive as only about 20% got the virus. So while this bug is nasty, it’s NOT the middle-aged killer that the media has been making it out to be.​
[3/11/20 update] Here’s some new data since this post first published:​
The outside of Wuhan Chinese death rate reported by their CDC is 0.4% (6)​
The South Korean death rate being reported is 0.65% (7)​
 

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From a somewhat biased friend, gloom and doom:

USA! USA!

My analysis was spot on. Our medical "system" is far too uncoordinated and too highly fractured to be able in the space of a few days or weeks to respond to a crisis of this magnitude.

Plus Americans are morons when it comes to getting the job done properly. I've worked in too many World HQs and seen too much stupidity not to see this coming.
Only 6,563 Americans have been tested for the coronavirus so far
https://news.yahoo.com/only-5000-am...ted-for-the-coronavirus-so-far-151447195.html

CDC spokesman Richard Quartarone said that as of Monday evening, the Atlanta-based public health agency had tested 1,707 people. On March 3, that number had been 1,200 people, which means the CDC has tested 507 people in the last week, or about 72 per day.

Now, that's bad enough, but the CDC also handed out testing kits to the states and other labs BUT DID NOT REQUIRE THEM TO REPORT ON THE NUMBER OF TESTS THAT WERE CONDUCTED.

Yes, it was that stupid.

So, the leader for the title of Horse's Ass of the 21st Century, Secretary of Housing and Human Services, Alex Azar, who is also the head of the CDC as Secretary of the HHS, just said today HE HAS NO FRICKIN' IDEA HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TESTED!!

You can't make this s@#% up!
‘We don’t know’ how many Americans have been tested for coronavirus: Azar
https://nypost.com/2020/03/10/we-dont-know-how-many-americans-have-been-tested-for-coronavirus-azar/

“We don’t know exactly how many because of hundreds of thousands of our tests have gone out to private labs and hospitals that currently do not report in to CDC,” Azar said on CNN, referring to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

You're the head of the CDC and you didn't require labs that accepted your test kits to phone in the number of tests plus the results? How stupid can you be?


“We’re working with the CDC and those partners to get an IT reporting system up and running hopefully this week where we would be able to get that data to keep track of how many we’re testing,” he said.

It takes one freaking day to set up a database for reporting. I know, I built them myself. I built databases for the NYC MTA, Wang Labs, the UN, Singer Corp., etc. IT DOESN'T TAKE LONG.

I mean, what's so hard about this DB? You need date of testing, some data about the person tested and the result. Period. Done.

There HAS to be dozens of medical DBs already that exist with all those required fields. You could even ask China or Korea for the database structures because they are keeping track electronically.

And even if it takes a week, why the hell are they starting now?

I mean, we're all being held hostage by a horse's ass who is completely incompetent and oblivious. He's the kind of guy who would be standing around the World Trade Centers on 9-11 saying, "Gee, will you look at that?"

America is going to get wiped out by this virus. We are going to find out why a universal healthcare system run by a central authority with lots of power over medical corporations and institutions is an absolute necessity.

But, then again... Considering how fanatical Americans are with their "free market" mania, I have no doubt that even if 30 million died that would not be enough to change our medical "system" or their minds.

Stock up and hunker down. It's going to be a wild ride to Hell.
 

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Why I Am NOT Concerned About the Coronavirus
By Chris Centeno, MD / March 8, 2020
https://regenexx.com/blog/why-i-am-not-concerned-about-the-coronavirus/

excerpt:

How Lethal Is COVID-19?​
The most accurate data on case fatalities is from the only natural experiment that exists, the Diamond Princess cruise. Why a cruise ship? Because this is a closed environment where we can accurately measure every person who gets sick and know the real number of people who perish based on that exposure.​
The cruise ship data shows a fatality rate of 0.85%. All of the people that perished were over 70, which is much more like the seasonal flu. In addition, the ability of the virus to spread was again, not that impressive as only about 20% got the virus. So while this bug is nasty, it’s NOT the middle-aged killer that the media has been making it out to be.​
[3/11/20 update] Here’s some new data since this post first published:​
The outside of Wuhan Chinese death rate reported by their CDC is 0.4% (6)​
The South Korean death rate being reported is 0.65% (7)​
Ooooooooooook.

I dont mean to be an alarmist here but the cognitive dissonance regarding this epidemic is astounding. You're going to base your opinions on the Chicoms who have been lying about this from the start, and who HAVE NOT MADE A NEW REPORT TO THE CDC in OVER A WEEK!

Noone is mentioning this! Why?

As for the South Koreans I dont know whats going on there other than to say this thing has just gotten started. Look at the numbers yourself. Over 7700 confirmed cased only 247 recovered and 54 dead!

On the other hand we head over to Italy with over 10000 cases and 631 DEAD while only 724 recovered! Well boy howdy thats a 6% death rate!

Lets keep our eyes and ears peeled and realistic approach.

Dont try to sugar coat a turd cause I aint eating it.
 

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Over 7700 confirmed cased only 247 recovered and 54 dead!
Deaths to recovered is the ratio people should be looking at, as those are in fact the only two possibilities of outcome.

For those saying wuflu is the same as regflu, what is the recovered to deaths ratio for regflu? Is it in the same ballpark?
 

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"On the other hand we head over to Italy with over 10000 cases and 631 DEAD while only 724 recovered! Well boy howdy that's a 6% death rate!"

For those who are curious, that is a 46% death rate.
 
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"On the other hand we head over to Italy with over 10000 cases and 631 DEAD while only 724 recovered! Well boy howdy that's a 6% death rate!"

For those who are curious, that is a 53% death rate.
This thing is moving quicker than we can keep up.

Italy just updated again.......12,462 Cases 827 DEAD 724 recovered!

The USA is now over 1100 confirmed. By tomorrow im going to guess the number will be over 3000.
 

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Italy just updated again.......12,462 Cases 827 DEAD 724 recovered!

53%. I posted the wrong answer at first.
 
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Italy just updated again.......12,462 Cases 827 DEAD 724 recovered!

Still 53%
Shouldn't it be higher? Recovered stayed the same at 724 while deaths went from 631 to 827.
 

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Yeah, I had worked both, but put up today's rate at the previous one's place: S/B 46%

See above
 

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So, unh, are those 'cases' inna hospital bed gurgling, tryin to breath, on death's door?
How do they count 'recovered'? Don't we wait until the end of it before we count the 'recovered'? Then everyone who ain't dead is 'recovered'.
Interpret the data as you desire, but to me, deaths per verified cases would be the metric I would pay attention to. And, if yer over 70, like me, I would pay even closer attention to the percentage of those old folks that got it and didn't 'recover'.

JMSO,
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So, unh, are those 'cases' inna hospital bed gurgling, tryin to breath, on death's door?
How do they count 'recovered'? Don't we wait until the end of it before we count the 'recovered'? Then everyone who ain't dead is 'recovered'.
Interpret the data as you desire, but to me, deaths per verified cases would be the metric I would pay attention to. And, if yer over 70, like me, I would pay even closer attention to the percentage of those old folks that got it and didn't 'recover'.

JMSO,
BF
Fer you and me, BF, both metrics probably work.
 

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whats everyone gonna do with all that damned hand sanitizer and TP they ran out inna panic and bought?
store it under the bed for the next eleven years?
 

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daily update

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Speed of contagion & deaths - Comparison of Covid19 to SARS and H1N1
Very FAST...

Comparison Covid19 vs SARS & H1N1 March 11 2020.jpg
 

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uhhh I listened but quickly tuned him out when he plugged climate change and a few other tidbits that did not sound , smell , or walk just right after I leaned on the idea a little...

so I guess it is just this dude’s interpretation of this fluid situation...
I let that slip by for the other pertinent info from the virus specialist... Gotta pick & choose... Throw out the "agenda"...
 

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... You're going to base your opinions on the Chicoms who have been lying about this from the start,...
Dont try to sugar coat a turd cause I aint eating it.
No, my opinion was formed before I read this article by the medical doctor.

You conveniently skipped over the five lines regarding the Diamond Princess cruise ship example he gave and you picked the one line regarding the Chinese.

I wasn't trying to sugarcoat anything. I merely provided a link to an article that doesn't fan the panic, fear, and hyperventilation that most of the news in the media is fanning.

Nobody suggested you eat anything. Calm down.

Everyone can freak out all they want. I choose not to join that club.
 

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Dont take it personal Song.

No one here is saying panic but a lot of people are comparing a naturally occurring flu to a bio-weapon designed to kill.

Take heed.
 

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Just off hand I'll say it's going to be interesting to see how this microcosm we have here in this forum develops as this thing continues over the next few weeks (months?).

BF
 

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who needs a chart bf, Didn't some old foggies just croack up the street from you?

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just keep lookin out the window
 

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whats everyone gonna do with all that damned hand sanitizer and TP they ran out inna panic and bought?
store it under the bed for the next eleven years?
Put it next to all the .22 Ammo they went out & panic bought.
 

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What good things have come out of China? It's been a lot of years since Confucius died, I don't know why they don't follow his ethics.

Asian longhorn beetle, came over in pallets imported from China.

Numerous other insects without US predators like the Japanese beetle and the elm beetles which have devastated our trees. Customs needs to get a lot tougher with imports.
 

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a bio-weapon designed to kill.

Take heed.
imvho...they didn't do so well,
perhaps I should be really concerned about that
 

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Subject: Breaking news, best way to escape the virus

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What is it they say about Karma ?
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Islamic Scholar Who Said Coronavirus Was "Allah's Punishment" Gets Coronavirus

"...An Islamic scholar who said the coronavirus was “Allah’s punishment” for China’s treatment of Muslims now has coronavirus.
How ironic.
Back in February, Hadi Al-Modarresi, who is based in Iran, said that the coronavirus outbreak was “undoubtedly an act of Allah that is divine punishment against the Chinese for their treatment, mockery, and disrespect towards Muslims and Islam,” reported MEMRI-TV.
“It is obvious that the spread of this virus is an act of Allah. How do we know this? The spread of the coronavirus began in China, an ancient and vast country, the population of which makes up one seventh of humanity,” said Al-Modarresi.

More Here: https://www.infowars.com/islamic-sc...virus-was-allahs-punishment-gets-coronavirus/
 

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I remember the late 80s and early 1990s where all cheap tools came out of Taiwan or India. I think they made them better. I have a bunch of junk tools that refuse to die or break from that era. I don’t think we’ll be saying that about a lot of the ChiCom stuff you find now everyday.