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COVID-19 has hammered home some uncomfortable truths about us as a people...

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The following opinion piece to me speaks volumes. It is Australia focused, but the discussion could well apply pretty much anywhere around the world.

The author Chris Uhlmann is someone I never really considered a libertarian by any stretch, and his other writings are the usual economic clap trap on a mainstream rag. For someone like him to out with a piece like that, it means that even the most inebriated KoolAid drinkers are sobering up. And the comments, bar a few dissenting voices is a herd of sheep bleating in unison...

COVID-19 has hammered home some uncomfortable truths about us as a people

Soon enough there will be a global reckoning on whether the coronavirus defences did more damage than the disease.

It will be driven by the swingeing economic destruction imposed by governments that will deliver millions into poverty, driving internal and external conflicts. Beggared states will turn inward, the world will become more polarised, angrier, more dangerous.

In time it's a fair bet the cure will be seen by many as the real curse, as people whose lives have been destroyed seek retribution.

Though it will be a small wave in the storm, here the Victorian solution and internal border closures should be counted among those judged as doing much more harm than good. That's because there was abundant evidence by mid-year that pointed to more road maps to recovery than the "only way" decreed by the Victorian Premier or the self-interested, colonial-era border wars led by his peers.

You can forgive the early response of all governments to the horror of a novel virus. Plagues are in the front rank of human threats. In February and March little was known about COVID-19 and the worst was rightly assumed. Australia's leaders reacted quickly, worked in unison and chose to buy time; to lock their populations down while health systems were fortified with a timetable set for easing their way out.

That was a sensible, defensible plan. Now there is no nation plan and that is as indefensible as Victoria's panic-stricken response. Because now we know much more about the disease and, while it is a serious illness, it is a whole lot less frightening than it is made out to be.

COVID-19 is nowhere near as deadly as the Spanish flu, which killed an estimated 50 million, mostly young, people worldwide. Fifteen thousand of those deaths were in Australia, in a population that was then just 5 million. At the time of writing, COVID-19 had killed about 930,000 people globally. Here 816 have died in a population now pushing towards 26 million.

No matter how hard the death of anyone under 50 is spun, it is so vanishingly rare among Australia's body count as to be close to zero. If you are a woman, it is zero. In Australia there is a far greater statistical chance that someone under 60 will die in a car accident.

COVID-19 mostly kills the elderly, especially if they have an existing chronic disease. That is not an argument to let them die but it should guide government responses.

Of the 816 Australian deaths the vast majority, 606, were in residential aged care. So if you are going to throw a ring of steel around anything it should be around aged care homes, not Melbourne. The rest of the population should be liberated to get on with their lives while taking sensible health precautions.

Governing should be about balancing risks against costs and only fools and sophists make arguments based on false choices. The debate is not between what we are doing and doing nothing. It should be about what response delivers the greatest good for the greatest number. The Victorian solution punishes the many for the few. It preferences the very old over the young, mortgaging the future of the entire school and working age population. It is hard to imagine how you could design a policy that is more profoundly unfair or damaging to a society.

If the argument is we must do everything in our power to protect the elderly, then we are already doing well. Federal Health Department data, first published in The Australian, shows there were almost 1000 fewer deaths in residential aged care in the first seven months of this year than in the same time last year

I sourced the same data from the department and received two a tables and a note.

"The lower number of deaths for this period in 2020 (32,398) compared to the same period in 2019 (33,383) is likely the result of increased influenza immunisation rates, and increased infection control protocols introduced during the COVID-19 pandemic," the health department note said.

So, why is it a crime for someone to die of COVID-19 in care but it's OK if they die of absolutely anything else?

This disease has revealed the character of our leaders and hammered home some uncomfortable truths about us as a people. As a nation we seem comfortable with authoritarianism and too many relish the role of prefect.

And nowhere in this often-opaque democracy has a less transparent court system, bureaucracy, police force or government than Victoria. The people there have been badly served, even as some revelled in the servitude. Its systems of power have combined to deliver the wanton destruction of its vibrant society. Its government has condemned its people to a poorer future, to higher unemployment, more poverty and less opportunity.

Rejoice. Dan Andrews has destroyed the village to save it.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/...ths-about-us-as-a-people-20200915-p55vrb.html
 

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From the article:

"No matter how hard the death of anyone under 50 is spun, it is so vanishingly rare among Australia's body count as to be close to zero. If you are a woman, it is zero. In Australia there is a far greater statistical chance that someone under 60 will die in a car accident.

COVID-19 mostly kills the elderly, especially if they have an existing chronic disease. That is not an argument to let them die but it should guide government responses.

Of the 816 Australian deaths the vast majority, 606, were in residential aged care."
 

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Of the 816 Australian deaths the vast majority, 606, were in residential aged care."
You don't think commie bastards cuomo, whitless etc..... did not know that when this started? I think I called it cash for clunkers pulling deaths forward to inflate the numbers. People would overlook it because of the age & other health issues. Or how to get away with murder......... to advance their cause & destroy the world.
 

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You don't think commie bastards cuomo, whitless etc..... did not know that when this started? I think I called it cash for clunkers pulling deaths forward to inflate the numbers. People would overlook it because of the age & other health issues. Or how to get away with murder......... to advance their cause & destroy the world.
Cuomo et al were/are too dumb and had no need to know until the narrative dictated they act in the manner they did.
 

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I'll assume keeping people alive in late life facilities is expensive?

Someone is paying out for that. Death ends those pay outs.
Death of elderly helps the financial burden on SS & Medicare, too ! :angry then happy::make happy:
 

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Death of elderly helps the financial burden on SS & Medicare, too ! :angry then happy::make happy:
Many past societies, valued, respected and honored their elders....this society isn't one of them although in all honesty, many of today's elders are blood sucking, soft and selfish people who haven't done much during their lifetimes to earn that respect.
 
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I think it also shows what a small percentage of liberty loving Americans there is left.
 

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Many past societies, valued, respected and honored their elders....this society isn't one of them although in all honesty, many of today's elders are blood sucking, soft and selfish people who haven't done much during their lifetimes to earn that respect.
And it ain't gett'n better !!! :make happy::totally steamed: