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I bought this one off of Ebay. I paid more than I wanted but here is why I did.
Its UGLY. Its an outdoor image. I wanted to try my hand at washing some of the obvious residue from the plate
and also at changing the glass out.
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Thanks UW
( btw, drove by the Samsula Mall the other day and thought about you )
Anyways, im pretty excited to get it in the mail.
Guy who sold it has some 420000 , yes thousands, of Ebay feedbacks, you look at his site and there was all manner of shite, pages lol...and only one image such as this. Which usually means not the interest or propensity to mess with it.
I went to the Symposium in November and this scientist lady from England totally bored the Mrs Haystack to tears with a lecture about how glass deterioration happens over time. Lecture was complete with microscope images of mineral releasing spots in the glass and graphed over time etc etc. Totally a sleeper I tell ya. Haystackneedle was onna edge of the seat cuz ive seen this for years. People freak when they see images that are fugly.
BUT, when I saw this one, as I have seen many in the past, I hit it up as a gamble.
Same with the ugly house one up a few posts.
We will see. Gotta also find a place to cut me some museuum glass 1 / 16".
I visited this place near here named " Glass Depot ".
Take an image in with me and a piece of older cover glass I did.
Its one of those custom shower door and bathroom places. Ive been there b4 and ordered some glass shelves.
Guy did not even blink....says " on line " , no money in that for me man. See ya later " and he walked off.
On the way out, it was early, I was only one there, I noticed the same Porsche coupe I saw last time there parked near the front door. Uhh huh...I thought...not ever coming back here..." Glass Depot "...my arse...lol...
Times sure have changed.
Talk soon UW. Got some other snags to share.
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I operated on this image over the weekend.
It was way better than I could have ever imagined.
Originally they are paper sealed holding the image , the mat, the glass together.
I removed what was left of that.
I took the assembly apart, replaced the glass with a piece of clear museum glass, air sprayed the image only with compressed air,
re taped everything together with archival tape.
Totally killer image IMHO now.
The whole above " gunk " was tiny moisture droplets just on the underside of the glass and not on the image itself
This one was a home run. At least for me anyways :)
Regards to all.
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Wow. That came out great. It would be neat if you recorded a side-by-side "before and after".

She was a hottie, BTW...
 

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I had a bit of success on Ebay.
AND then....I got frosted....
totally shut out, rejected at the glass, humbled immensely... and I was thinking I was being aggressive by a decent margin.
So, one of my theories, while I was messing with used cars, was that the prices one can ask and get cycle just like anything else. And the same is so with images and Ebay.
So for the last year or so I have been hitting Ebay for daguerreotypes hard right after school starts and then between Christmas and tax refund time.
Sure enough, this last year that proved to be fruitful.
But the next few images posted above and below I got completely shut out on.
Either I was cheap ( not - learned my lesson above ) or bigger money is afoot or a combination of both.
Either way. I hate to lose but it was a weekend of not so much success.
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I had a bit of success on Ebay.
AND then....I got frosted....
totally shut out, rejected at the glass, humbled immensely... and I was thinking I was being aggressive by a decent margin.
So, one of my theories, while I was messing with used cars, was that the prices one can ask and get cycle just like anything else. And the same is so with images and Ebay.
So for the last year or so I have been hitting Ebay for daguerreotypes hard right after school starts and then between Christmas and tax refund time.
Sure enough, this last year that proved to be fruitful.
But the next few images posted above and below I got completely shut out on.
Either I was cheap ( not - learned my lesson above ) or bigger money is afoot or a combination of both.
Either way. I hate to lose but it was a weekend of not so much success. View attachment 81917
The guy on the left has a nose that could steer a Mississippi pole boat.
 

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I acquired a couple of images for my own collection.
One was admired by myself a few pages back here on this thread.
I have re posted it here.
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Been a busy spring and summer. ( although technically summer ain't started yet, but heat index was 105 day b4 yestiddy )
Here are a few images collected for posting here.
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Hey Nick, Good to see ya. Been enjoying your travel pics whenever you post them.
Next time you go through Quito perhaps you can look for some "daguerreotypes " ?
I have a few South American images. They are very hard to find.
Here is some basic info on the man above. Good stuff man. Talk soon.

http://publicdomainreview.org/collections/robert-cornelius-self-portrait-the-first-ever-selfie-1839/

Robert Cornelius’ Self-Portrait: The First Ever “Selfie” (1839)

Today the Oxford Dictionaries announced their word of the year for 2013 to be “selfie”, which they define as “a photograph that one has taken of oneself, typically one taken with a smartphone or webcam and uploaded to a social media website.” Although the rampant proliferation of the technique is quite recent, the “selfie” itself is far from being a strictly modern phenomenon. Indeed, the photographic self-portrait is surprisingly common in the very early days of photography exploration and invention, when it was often more convenient for the experimenting photographer to act as model as well. In fact, the picture considered by many to be the first photographic portrait ever taken was a “selfie”. The image in question was taken in 1839 by an amateur chemist and photography enthusiast from Philadelphia named Robert Cornelius. Cornelius had set his camera up at the back of the family store in Philadelphia. He took the image by removing the lens cap and then running into frame where he sat for a minute before covering up the lens again. On the back he wrote “The first light Picture ever taken. 1839.”


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Cornelius

Robert Cornelius(March 1, 1809[2]– August 10, 1893) was an American pioneer of photography and lamp manufacturer.

Early life and career[edit]
Cornelius was born inPhiladelphiato Christian and Sarah Cornelius (née Soder). Cornelius' father had immigrated fromAmsterdamin 1783 and worked as asilversmithbefore opening a lamp manufacturing company.[3][4]Robert Cornelius attended private school as a youth, taking a particular interest inchemistry.[5]In 1831, he began working for his father specializing in silver plating and metal polishing. He became so well renowned for his work, that shortly after, Cornelius was approached byJoseph Saxtonto create a silver plate for hisdaguerreotypeofCentral High SchoolinPhiladelphia. It was this meeting that sparked Cornelius's interest in photography.

With his own knowledge ofchemistryandmetallurgy, as well as the help of chemistPaul Beck Goddard, Cornelius attempted to perfect thedaguerreotype. Around October 1839, at age thirty, Cornelius took a portrait of himself outside of the family store. The daguerreotype produced is an off-center portrait of a man with crossed arms and tousled hair. Thisself-portraitof Robert Cornelius is the oldest known existing photographicportraitof a human in America.[6]Daguerre's photograph of theBoulevard du Temple, taken one year earlier, depicts two human figures on the sidewalk, but these were incidental to the photograph as opposed to being the main subject.

Cornelius would operate two of the earliest photographic studios inthe U.S.between 1841 and 1843, but as the popularity of photography grew and more photographers opened studios, Cornelius either lost interest or realized that he could make more money at the family gas and lighting company.

Personal life[edit]
Cornelius married Harriet Comly (sometimes spelled Comely) in 1832. They had eight children, three sons and five daughters.[7]

Later years and death[edit]
Cornelius retired from his family's business in 1877.[8]In his later years, he lived at his country home inFrankford, Philadelphia. Cornelius was also an elder at the Presbyterian Church, where he was a member for fifty years.[9]He died at his Frankford home on August 10, 1893.[8][10]
 

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That's some cool things you collect for sure.:thumbs up 2::thumbs up 2::thumbs up 2:

Why would there be a John Wayne tinytype?
 

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John Wayne. Interesting eye UW has.
He has already said that Jodie Foster is alive and well on this thread.
:) And by golly....it was so.
And then there was the Steven Segal presidential look alike a few back also.
Good stuff that is for sure.

Hey Gringott,
That guy ( young John Wayne ) up above with the hat.
So that piece of table cloth....it seems to me it is SEWED into his jacket.
I have no clue as to the reasoning for this. Gotta look into that.
 

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Wonder how she breathed being pulled in that tight.
 

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Hey Gringott,
That guy ( young John Wayne ) up above with the hat.
So that piece of table cloth....it seems to me it is SEWED into his jacket.
I have no clue as to the reasoning for this. Gotta look into that.
I thought the same thing, but if you look close the pattern is not the same, I think it is a scarf of some kind that is draped around his shoulders, perhaps under the epaulets of the coat.
 

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Set up a " snipe " on this image on Ebay.
I got totally owned.
Learned a bit too.
It would have been a good addition to the humble collection.
It went for a big premium
Look closely. It is a saddle shop.
The glass is very dirty. Thats the 1st remedy.
Next would be a distilled water bath.
That might lift some of the edge tarnish.
Cool.sidewalk.
Who knows what other secrets this image holds ?
Yup....got taught some stuff on this one.
Mostly about pricing levels.
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Regards to all.
 

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I made reservations to go to this years Symposium.
New York City in October.
Drug my feet.
Flights were ok priced.
Accomodation in NYC , even with the convention rate,
is excessive.
Place is crazy.
Its like you have a velcro suit on,
20s stuck to it,
And as you walk down the street people start pulling them off.
When you get to your destination....you gotta do a $ count and regroup.
Lol.
Staying 3 nights only.
More later.
 

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Stacking a different kind of silver here.
No quick flip. Stacking for an inheritance perhaps, regardless though, for a longer term than many.
A couple of small acquisitions to my small and humble collection.
These are 1/6th plates. The images are about the size of a cigarette box.
Men were the most frequent subjects in this same type of pose.
No much has changed since 1850s... my high school yearbook from the 80s looks the same.
There are thousands of portraits of men. existing from the Victorian era.
The best part of " stacking " them is finding ones that are
different on some way.
Women much the same although there were less portraits made of women than men.
This lady is indeed dressed to the 9s
The next phase one encounters are the more artistic variations of the poses.
It all boils down to just what floats your own boat in some way.
The symposium is coming up. I will try and write more about that in the next few weeks.
Regards to all.



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I made reservations to go to this years Symposium.
New York City in October.
Drug my feet.
Flights were ok priced.
Accomodation in NYC , even with the convention rate,
is excessive.
Place is crazy.
Its like you have a velcro suit on,
20s stuck to it,
And as you walk down the street people start pulling them off.
When you get to your destination....you gotta do a $ count and regroup.
Lol.
Staying 3 nights only.
More later.
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Looking forward to hearing how it goes.