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EARTH’S ATMOSPHERE EXTENDS FAR BEYOND THE MOON, SCIENTISTS DISCOVER

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I just saw the picture, the drawing that was produced

Looks more like the hot air the Communists and Socialists are generating, that's leaking away from the globe

Science and Art, what a wonderful concept
as 4 out of 5 artists agree, they'd be out of work if it wasn't for today's science
 

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"Discover?" This is a handful of people trying to make headlines, and idiot journalists feeding into it. This is not news. The atmosphere does not have a hard edge, it gets gradually less dense as you move away from the surface of Earth. This has been known for decades. We usually use 100 km as the line just to pick a point. So these poeple decide to draw a different line and newsweek gives them headlines? Hell, by their logic, the sun is bigger than the orbit of Neptune!!!

FFS
 

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I live at 7K feet.

Same amount of O2 here as at sea level... just less air pressure than at 0 ft.

Sometimes I get 'winded' on a 2 mile walk. My "2nd wind" comes along and I'm good to go for longer.
Same thing happens at lower elevations.

Been here for years so my red blood cells have increased to make up the 'difference'.

The atmosphere 'fades out' the higher one goes.
 

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Back in the late 60s early 70s my dad made his own 10" diameter telescope. This is what got me started on ORION, Betalgeuse and the the ORION Cloud complex.
Anyway he always claimed the was a very thin atmosphere on the Moon as he saw haze on the perimeter of the satellite. College professors would tell him it was a reflection of glare when he would attend star gazing sessions but he felt their stance weak and his stronger.
Anyway it sounds like dad got vindicated.
 

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Back in the late 60s early 70s my dad made his own 10" diameter telescope. This is what got me started on ORION, Betalgeuse and the the ORION Cloud complex.
Anyway he always claimed the was a very thin atmosphere on the Moon as he saw haze on the perimeter of the satellite.
What they're talking about isn't anything that would be visible at the distance of the Moon. What they're saying is that some molecules from Earth's atmosphere can be detected at that distance, not that they are numerous enough to be anything close to what we call the atmosphere we live in and breathe.
....but there's been reports of what you are describing. Based on what I remember hearing about it is that supposedly it's caused by very fine particles of Moon dust suspended above the Moon's surface due to electro-static charge at/near the terminator line. If that's true, and depending on the angle of observation and direction light from the Sun is hitting it, it very well could be visible at times from Earth.
 

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"Discover?" This is a handful of people trying to make headlines, and idiot journalists feeding into it. This is not news. The atmosphere does not have a hard edge, it gets gradually less dense as you move away from the surface of Earth. This has been known for decades. We usually use 100 km as the line just to pick a point. So these poeple decide to draw a different line and newsweek gives them headlines? Hell, by their logic, the sun is bigger than the orbit of Neptune!!!

FFS
https://www.google.com/search?q=EAR...movil-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
 

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not that they are numerous enough to be anything close to what we call the atmosphere we live in and breathe.
He never and I never claimed it was a survivable atmosphere. But it does have atmosphere.
If these experts are saying a percentage of Earth's atmosphere can be detected (Earth's atmosphere)...."geocorona extends over 390,000 miles" . Then the Moon has atmosphere no matter how minute.
 

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He never and I never claimed it was a survivable atmosphere. But it does have atmosphere.
If these experts are saying a percentage of Earth's atmosphere can be detected (Earth's atmosphere)...."geocorona extends over 390,000 miles" . Then the Moon has atmosphere no matter how minute.
This looks like more Nashole nonsense, namely current rockets cannot efficiently operate in a vacuum or false vacuum, as they require something to push against such as solids or particles... thus they had to expand the atmosphere out to 400k miles to preserve operational rockets, the moon landing hoax & the so called space race!

These clowns just keep piling one lie on top of another....

 

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So we have a pear shaped planet with an atmosphere that extends out 400,000 miles that also has (Van Allen) radiation belts.... jeez how does that now work, as the atmosphere previously stopped at around 300 miles and the belts began.... ???



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He never and I never claimed it was a survivable atmosphere. But it does have atmosphere.
I didn't say that you said it was survivable.
....but even if there are scant amounts of air molecules floating around out there, there's no way they'd be visible from Earth. What your dad saw had to be dust particles in sufficient quantity to reflect enough Sunlight to make them visible.



If these experts are saying a percentage of Earth's atmosphere can be detected (Earth's atmosphere)...."geocorona extends over 390,000 miles" . Then the Moon has atmosphere no matter how minute.
If small amounts of Earth's atmosphere extend as far as the Moon, it's better described as the Moon passing through those bits of atmosphere than describing that atmosphere as belonging to the Moon.



This looks like more Nashole nonsense, namely current rockets cannot efficiently operate in a vacuum or false vacuum, as they require something to push against such as solids or particles.
It does push against something solid. Namely, the bottom of the rocket inside the combustion chamber as the fuel burns and expands outward in all directions.
....and this whole idea of "pushing on air" doesn't make a lick of sense. The mass of a rocket is exponentially larger than the same size area filled with air.
Ie: the air, when pushed against, would simply move out of the way long before the rocket would ever move, as there is exponentialy less resistance to the air being moved than the rocket being moved.



C'mon Bob, you act as though this stuff is rocket science or something! lol
 

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jeez how does that now work, as the atmosphere previously stopped at around 300 miles and the belts began.... ???
And the horizon was the end of the Earth.....At one time.
Things change and technology improves what mankind learns and knows.
 

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And the horizon was the end of the Earth.....At one time.
Things change and technology improves what mankind learns and knows.
Yup... just like the Apollo Mission model of Earth presented as an almost perfectly round spherical blue marble is being replaced with the pear shaped oblate spheroid model. Which essentially is NASA admitting that the Apollo blue marble images are faked & fraudulent!
 

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Yup... just like the Apollo Mission model of Earth presented as an almost perfectly round spherical blue marble is being replaced with the pear shaped oblate spheroid model. Which essentially is NASA admitting that the Apollo blue marble images are faked & fraudulent!
It absolutely is not, Bob.

When they say "oblate spheroid", or "pear shaped", it's only to be technically accurate.

Do you really believe that a mere 40 mile difference between the diameter of the Earth at the Equator and that measured Pole to Pole, would be apparent at all, when looking at the entirety of the Earth?

Relatively speaking, that would be like looking at someone's waist and trying to determine if they're an eigth of an inch wider than the last time you saw them. Would you really expect to be able to detect that small of a difference with only your eyes at a distance of 15'? Well that's about the same scale as trying to see a 40 mile difference on a nearly 8000 mile wide object from 238,000 miles away.


Also, fact is that the Earth is rounder than a cue ball when scaled to that size. So would you say a cue ball looks like a pear too Bob? If you scaled a cue ball to the size of the Earth, it would have greater deviation in its smoothness/roundness than the Earth does. That means a cue ball that size would have pits deeper than than Marianas trench and peaks higher than Mt Everest.
....but can a pear be used as a cue ball?


C'mon Bob, this stuff isn't rocket science. lol
 

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Back in the late 60s early 70s my dad made his own 10" diameter telescope. This is what got me started on ORION, Betalgeuse and the the ORION Cloud complex.
Anyway he always claimed the was a very thin atmosphere on the Moon as he saw haze on the perimeter of the satellite. College professors would tell him it was a reflection of glare when he would attend star gazing sessions but he felt their stance weak and his stronger.
Anyway it sounds like dad got vindicated.
Not really an "atmosphere" as we understand the word, it's dust particles rising from the lunar surface due to electric interaction. NASA says "static electricity". There are alternative electric explanations...
https://www.sciencealert.com/nasa-just-explained-why-moon-dust-is-levitating-above-the-lunar-surface
 

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Pic from a link of one of Alton's links.


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I didn't say that you said it was survivable.
....but even if there are scant amounts of air molecules floating around out there, there's no way they'd be visible from Earth. What your dad saw had to be dust particles in sufficient quantity to reflect enough Sunlight to make them visible.



If small amounts of Earth's atmosphere extend as far as the Moon, it's better described as the Moon passing through those bits of atmosphere than describing that atmosphere as belonging to the Moon.



It does push against something solid. Namely, the bottom of the rocket inside the combustion chamber as the fuel burns and expands outward in all directions.
....and this whole idea of "pushing on air" doesn't make a lick of sense. The mass of a rocket is exponentially larger than the same size area filled with air.
Ie: the air, when pushed against, would simply move out of the way long before the rocket would ever move, as there is exponentialy less resistance to the air being moved than the rocket being moved.



C'mon Bob, you act as though this stuff is rocket science or something! lol
One thing I've learned over decades of observing & watching the system operate is that bureaucrats, technocrats, terrocrats and the intellectual elite will use & employ every method available to themselves and their institutions to maintain and/or grow their institutions & funding.... lies, frauds, misrepresentations, etc. are all employed & deployed to keep the fat flowing. Consider for instance NASA receives $54+ million per day, 7 days a week, 365 days... thats quite an incentive to deliver up whatever is required to keep the funds flowing, including funding gate keepers that suppress the real nature of this reality. And of course NASA pretends to be a public institution when its actually military.... and we all know the military would never lie, misrepresent or prevent facts & truths from being revealed!

Just take a good look REAL images of the north star Polaris or Capella & Acturus.... these are not balls of burning hydrogen, etc., the universe & everything in it is electrical, but we cant have that truth for it would upset the fabric of all things... talk about inconvienient truths, but alas the public is distracted by the flat v round earth debate...
 

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Just take a good look REAL images of the north star Polaris or Capella & Acturus.... these are not balls of burning hydrogen, etc.
Then what are they? LED lights in the Firmament?

Why would they be anything different than something like our own Sun?

Also, parallax can prove that stars are very far away, and that they are not all the same distance away from us. It can also prove how far away the Moon and Planets are.

Bob, facts are the Moon is approx 238,000 miles away and the Earth does not look like a pear.



One thing I've learned over decades of observing & watching the system operate is that bureaucrats, technocrats, terrocrats and the intellectual elite will use & employ every method available to themselves and their institutions to maintain and/or grow their institutions & funding.... lies, frauds, misrepresentations, etc. are all employed & deployed to keep the fat flowing. Consider for instance NASA receives $54+ million per day, 7 days a week, 365 days... thats quite an incentive to deliver up whatever is required to keep the funds flowing,
$54 million per day? That is a lot, but it amounts to .16 cents per day per person in America. We spend double that everyday on just pizza.




including funding gate keepers that suppress the real nature of this reality.
What is the real nature of reality?

You like to bring up the pear Earth thing a lot, but can't you see what I described in post #16? That scaled to size, the Earth is rounder than a cue ball?
 

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I would pay good money to see NASA suit up Don Petite in a “space suit” and stick him in a vacuum chamber.
 

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You like to bring up the pear Earth thing a lot, but can't you see what I described in post #16? That scaled to size, the Earth is rounder than a cue ball?
I recount one of my teachers in elementary school sayin' that a true to scale model with the Earth the size of a baseball its surface would be smoother than any man made sphere.
Of course that was back in 60s technology so I don't know if it holds true today. YMMV
 

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I recount one of my teachers in elementary school sayin' that a true to scale model with the Earth the size of a baseball its surface would be smoother than any man made sphere.
Of course that was back in 60s technology so I don't know if it hold true today. YMMV
It's still very much true.

A +/- 12 mile difference between mountain peaks and valleys on an 8000 mile wide object is a very very very small difference.
....and the difference in roundness side to side and top to bottom is only 40 miles.

How well do you think that small difference would be visible to human perception?

Like I already posted, it would be like trying to discern a quarter inch difference around someones waist, from a distance of about 15'
 

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Does the atmosphere on the right side of the earth extend further than the atmosphere on the left side?

Maybe one of the flat earth carnival barkers could enlighten us.