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Maybe the white hats 'pulled' him out for safe keeping?

Too risky keeping him alive in an uncontrolled environment....
 

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Maybe the white hats 'pulled' him out for safe keeping?

Too risky keeping him alive in an uncontrolled environment....
Plausible but unlikely. News has it the guards skipped checks before they found Epstein.. Sounds like a lot of people are going to lose their jobs because of this one. If this was a murder then there are too many people to keep quiet.. If the guards start dropping then you know that it was a murder. If the guards get transferred and promoted then you know this is a ruse. If the guards get fired then you know Epstein took the easy way out.
 

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investigate bank accounts of the guards and their supervisors. Should be telling.
Maybe they found several rolls of American Gold Eagles under the seat of their cars? A little hard to trace until they start selling them.
 

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My take on the inmate's assessment of the MCC:

JE could not have committed suicide by physical means. OK.

But what about chemicals, poison; assisted suicide.

Either way, JE is off the public radar.
yep, if it ain't there then what are you talking about? This is starting to show standard issue issues.
 

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Does what happened to Oswald ring a bell?

No?
I didn't think so.
 

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The problem with all these theories is there is no substance. It sounds plausible but until there are high level arrests it goes in the same bin as the bodies were switched out or there is no way he could have committed suicide. Or look at this photoshopped ear, obviously not the same dude. Well it's not the same ear I will give you that.
I guess we will know when the autopsy is completed.

Hopefully the FBI sends better agents than they did to Vegas. I remember when they were all over the laptop that was found. You remember, the one with a camera attached and he was monitoring the hall. 7-10 days later they discovered it had no hard drive.
I still think the Security guards dudes who went on Elen to tell their story, were involved. Whacked the old dude and grabbed the hard drive on the way out.
This story is just about over. Investigation says the guards screwed up and entire story dies with JE. It doesn't matter if he's dead or alive if no other arrests happen and all these consriracy theories only add to muddying the waters.
 

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I have to agree with Erik Pearson (the poster) on this. Handling of the dead body wan highly suspect.

I was going to a job interview near Union Square, NYC a couple months ago and got there a little too early. So I decided to hang out in the park and not sweat up a storm. I noticed a big police presence in the park. Seems they found a junkie by the bushes behind the George Washington statue who must have overdosed. Body was covered over with a sheet and the police were there to keep everyone away until the morgue guys got there. I watched the morgue guys, from the 15th street pedestrian walkway, load the body into a body bag, sheet and all, making sure nothing was exposed. Zipped up the bag and away they went. If the morgue guys were so fastidious about handing a common everyday junkie why were they so careless handling Epstein? What are the odds that I watched the two most conscientious morgue workers in NYC? This is standard procedure no matter who the deceased is. Something doesn't smell right and it is not Epstein's rotting corpse.
 

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"Epstein" Gurney Picture is of Anthony Bourdain

 

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Maybe the white hats 'pulled' him out for safe keeping?

Too risky keeping him alive in an uncontrolled environment....
This is what I would also like to believe.
 

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Is it really so hard to believe that old dude, 66, lived life to the fullest, was the most well paid pimp in the history of pimping, gets caught one last time and rather than face life in prison, decides to check out.
 

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How does this not feed conspiracy theories?????

Epstein's Autopsy Results Delayed "Pending Further Information"

by Tyler Durden
Sun, 08/11/2019 - 21:31

The much-anticipated results of the New York City medical examiner's autopsy of Jeffrey Epstein have been released... kinda... saying its determination is “pending further information at this time.”


Statement from Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Barbara Sampson:
Today, a medical examiner performed the autopsy of Jeffrey Epstein.​
The ME’s determination is pending further information at this time.​
At the request of those representing the decedent, and with the awareness of the federal prosecutor, I allowed a private pathologist (Dr. Michael Baden) to observe the autopsy examination.
This is routine practice.​
My office defers to the involved law enforcement agencies regarding other investigations around this death.
Inquiries regarding the determination of the Chief Medical Examiner should be directed towards my office.​

So, the autopsy is complete? What further information could the ME need? Instructions?

Of course, this unusual delay will merely spur further uncertainty and the all around 'conspiracy theory' feel to this whole debacle.

What are the odds that Epstein's body gets misplaced? Or accidentally cremated?

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...y-results-delayed-pending-further-information
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So easy on the eyes, and pretty good job connecting the dots.

 

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Three things more believable than Epstein killing himself.
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What are the chances that Trump is just a Pied Piper for the Deep State? What if he is propped up to be a "voice" for honest patriots, but he is actually covering the tracks of the Deep State under the guise of exposing them? What if Qanon was put together just to placate the patriots to make us think that good things were actually happening or at least going to happen...eventually.
 

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Not normally a conspiracy guy but this seems less than credible. Not even the story but the highest profile, political criminal in recent history, who supposedly tried to commit suicide earlier, had been supplied the means to hang himself. It isn't necessary to believe someone killed him or it's one big illusion but certain people knew he'd off himself and made sure he was provided what he needed.

I was listening to a guy on the radio talking about prisoners on suicide watch and all the ways cells are designed to prevent this from happening. He seemed pretty credible and believable when discussing how the bed, walls, even light fixtures are put in place. He wasn't buying any of it.
 

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Listen to what Barr had to say:

Apparently, Epstein Died Of Apparent Suicide... Apparently-


 

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Lets make a deal, ya got nothin to lose.
Your freedom for a little favor...

muscle-bound ex-cop charged in murder was moved before financier's death
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A hulking ex-cop facing the death penalty on federal murder and drug charges was reportedly Jeffrey Epstein's cellmate at Manhattan's Metropolitan Correctional Center — and an official says Epstein might have feared the former police officer, who was questioned after the disgraced financier's apparent suicide attempt last month and who was transferred out of Epstein's cell shortly before the 66-year-old died early Saturday.

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Nicholas Tartaglione, who'd been a Briarcliffe Manor cop in Westchester County, N.Y., was charged in 2016 with the deaths of four men stemming from an alleged cocaine drug conspiracy. Epstein was housed at the MCC federal lockup with the 51-year-old former cop after his July arrest for sex trafficking. Federal prosecutors reportedly plan to seek the death penalty against Tartaglione.

Nothin to see here, move along please.
BF
 

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To be fair... it's just a book of contacts. All these socialites hung out together... just like we hang out at the local watering hole with our homies... we travel by car and they by jet.... the Star wants to make a big connection...



PAEDO'S BRIT LIST
Jeffrey Epstein listed 301 Brit associates including Mick Jagger and Tony Blair in pervert’s ‘little black book’ found by FBI
  • Neal Baker, US Digital News Editor
  • 13 Aug 2019, 0:40
  • Updated: 13 Aug 2019, 4:42

JEFFREY Epstein listed 301 British associates in a "little black book" of society figures uncovered by the FBI, it was revealed last night.

Among the contacts were celebrities such as Mick Jagger, Tony Blair and Richard Branson - as well as lords and ladies.


Jeffrey Epstein, who died in jail on Saturday while facing sex trafficking charges, had 301 Brits among his contacts, an FBI dossier said


Prince Andrew with then-teenager Virginia Giuffre, formerly known as Roberts, at the home of Ghislaine Maxwell
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There were more than 1,000 numbers and dozens of email addresses between the Brits named in the book belonging to Prince Andrew's pervert pal, the Mirror reported.

New Labour grandee Lord Peter Mandelson - who has 10 numbers, including one marked “direct line” one for “home” and another for “country home” - is also listed.

Prince Andrew has 16 numbers to his name - including a mobile and lines for Balmoral and Sandringham palaces, where he had visited the royal.

Andrew's ex Sarah Ferguson is also named in the address book - with 18 phone numbers for her.

It's not suggested that those named in the book committed any wrongdoing - or even met Epstein in person.

ISLAND RAID
The revelation in the FBI's 2,000-page dossier on Epstein came as agents raided the perv billionaire's private US Virgin Island, dubbed “paedophile island”, yesterday.

A large group of agents were seen disembarking from speedboats at the pier on the island on Monday morning and driving around on golf carts.

Other officials with "FBI" lettering on display were later seen overlooking the sea from the top of Epstein's remote luxury home off the coast of St Thomas.

TIES TO UK
US authorities have also vowed to carry on investigating Epstein’s ties to the UK as part of their child sex trafficking probe - amid fears he could have offended overseas.

They are now turning their attention to his associates to track any sick enablers who helped him sexually exploit young girls.

One document is said to describe the “damning things” Epstein’s inner circle did as he abused more than 100 girls from across the world, the Mirror said.

A source told the paper: “The document entails everybody in the Epstein case.

"It has some damning things, including about a number of Brits.”

SUICIDE SHOCK
Epstein, 66, is believed to have hanged himself in a New York jail on Saturday while facing child sex trafficking charges.

He was found dead days after being taken off suicide watch – reportedly at the request of his own lawyers.

The Department of Justice and the FBI have both launched investigations into the sex beast’s death.

His suspected suicide is not thought to have been caught on CCTV and it has emerged that guards did not check on him for several hours.

Epstein's death - which has sparked intense speculation - came hours after a Manhattan court released a 1,200-page dossier detailing lurid abuse allegations against him.

They were unsealed in a legal tangle between Brit socialite Ghislaine Maxwell — Epstein’s ex-lover — and Virginia Giuffre, formerly known as Roberts.

Timeline of the allegations against Jeffrey Epstein
The allegations against him go back to the 2000s

2005 - Parents of a 14-year-old girl told police in Florida that Epstein had molested their daughter at his Palm Beach home. A police search of the property found photos of girls throughout the house.

2006 - He is charged with multiple counts of unlawful sexual acts with a minor.
2007 - Epstein’s lawyers put together a plea deal for Epstein, who was the 54.

He agreed to plead guilty to two felony prostitution charges in state court,
In exchange, he and his accomplices received immunity from federal sex-trafficking charges that could have sent him to prison for life.

2008 - Appears in court to plead guilty on two lesser counts and sentenced to a 18 months in jail and was released early in 2009

July 2019 - Arrested charges of child sex trafficking and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking.

Prosecutors accused him in a grand jury indictment of paying dozens of girls as young as 14 to engage in sex acts with him at his New York and Florida properties from 2002 to 2005.

Pleaded not guilty and could face up to 45 years in prison if convicted.

More than a dozen women have now come forward with more sex abuse allegations.

August 2019 - Hundreds of pages of court documents were unsealed alleging new details of sexual abuse claims against Epstein and several associates.

August 10 2019 - The twisted tycoon dies after apparently hanging himself in his prison cell.

Ms Giuffre has alleged that she was procured by “madame” Maxwell, 57, the daughter of disgraced tycoon Robert Maxwell, as a teenage “sex slave” for Epstein.

Ms Maxwell, who has gone into hiding, denied all the allegations.

In previous court claims, she alleged she had sex Prince Andrew, 59, when she was flown to London aged 17 by Epstein - which the royal vehemently denies.

US court papers also alleged the Duke of York touched a woman’s breast as she sat on his lap and played with a Spitting Image puppet of him.

Johanna Sjoberg alleged he touched her breast in 2001 at Epstein’s New York home, according to court papers.

ROYAL DENIAL
Buckingham Palace has strenuously denied the allegations.

A palace spokesman said: "Any suggestion of impropriety with underage minors is categorically untrue.

“It is emphatically denied that the Duke of York had any form of sexual contact or relationship with Virginia Roberts.

“Any claim to the contrary is false and without foundation.”

MPs are calling for an investigation into the Duke of York’s relationship with Epstein.

Labour MP Jess Phillips said last night: "I think that, of course, the case must be properly investigated.”

US Attorney General William Barr said yesterday that there were “serious irregularities” at the prison where Epstein died.

He insisted that Epstein's death would not halt the investigations, adding: “Any co-conspirators should not rest easy.”


Tony Blair was among those listed as contacts in Epstein's address book, it was reported last nightCredit:
Getty Images - Getty



Contact numbers for Mick Jagger were also kept by Jeffrey Epstein, it was claimed
Credit: Getty Images - Getty



Richard Branson is listed as a contact of Jeffrey Epstein, it was reported
Credit: Getty Images - Getty


Virginia Giuffre, formerly known as Roberts, claims she was 'loaned out' to Prince Andrew when she was Epsteins sex slave



US Attorney General William Barr said any of Epstein's co-conspirators should not feel like they're in the clear following the sex beasts death

What are the sordid allegations made against Jeffrey Epstein?
JEFFREY Epstein was a US financier who was convicted of soliciting an underage girl for prostitution in 2008.

He was arrested on July 6, 2019 for sex trafficking minors in Florida and New York.

Epstein was arrested on July 6, 2019 on sex trafficking charges.

Court documents allege that at least 40 underage girls were brought to Epstein’s mansion for sexual encounters.
He was arrested at Teterboro Airport in New Jersey.

FBI agents are also said to have broken down the door to his Manhattan townhouse.

He pleaded not guilty to child sex trafficking charges in New York and faced 45 years in prison if found guilty.

On July 18, a federal judge said that the disgraced financier presented was a "danger to the community" and must stay in one of New York's toughest prisons while he awaited his trial over the sex trafficking accusations.

The shamed financier was locked up amid fears he could have fled the country.