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Even if one does " Physically Hold It "

the .gov may take it away while that .gov CLAIMS

" your country needs your stuff "

the EO's may already be " on the books "
 

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Even if one does " Physically Hold It " the .gov may take it away while that .gov CLAIMS " your country needs your stuff " the EO's may already be " on the books "
"Loose lips sinks ships"
What "they" don't know Don't hurt you.
Points to consider.
 

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Look what the cat dragged in!
 

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Nope it's the Rat thumping and trumping the cat (pun intended) and then trumpeting the return of the next rise on the ship of undervalued real delicious money BASKETS:

gold bullion coins
silver bullion coins
platinum bullion coins

gold numismatics
silver numismatics
platinum numismatics

silver junk coins
silver bars

It will go up and down like always but soon we pass the $1370 line in the sand for gold...
Silver will follow or lead, who knows?

Silver is a real steal right now...
Platinum is just a steal for a low key play...
Gold has the real Russia and China playing it...

Old HS about the same age as John Wayne was back in 1967 as a Newport Beach Cop when he bought me 5:00 a.m. Sunday breakfast...
More like in 1976 when he played The Shootist...
 

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The last big high in gold on the chart @ $1,370.00 that has nothing probably between that and the all time nominal dollar
high of around $1,825.00 (2011) all time...

Keep in mind though in 2011 there was only about half the fiat worldwide chasing the price to balance out the equities...

And there was not the paper derivatives of trading in paper - now somewhere between 300 to 500 ounces of gold claimed
in paper for only one ounce of real physical gold backing it up...

Study history - this never works out well for the paper holders... However...
 

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The last big high in gold on the chart @ $1,370.00 that has nothing probably between that and the all time nominal dollar
high of around $1,825.00 (2011) all time...

Keep in mind though in 2011 there was only about half the fiat worldwide chasing the price to balance out the equities...

And there was not the paper derivatives of trading in paper - now somewhere between 300 to 500 ounces of gold claimed
in paper for only one ounce of real physical gold backing it up...

Study history - this never works out well for the paper holders... However...
When will it unravel?
Or, what is longest time it could last?
 

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If you believe in the WAVES theory; I feel like Indiana Jones... this was given to me 10 years ago...
the fiat was only around 9 trillion $ then

Get a long term gold chart from 2000 to 2019 and see the waves...

Major ONE up from $256 to $1,015 4 X $255 = finished

Major TWO down from $1,015 to $699 31% Fibonacci decline = finished

Major THREE up from $700 to $4,500 6.5 X $700 low Fibonacci = now in progress
with two 13% declines minor corrections

Major FOUR down 29% around $3,200 = later

Major FIVE up like Major ONE 4 X $3,200 or more... = later

Hope that helps; it is years in play, just like 1964 to 1980 ish...
The Bears love to eat the Pigs and then become BULLS!

Common sense says to me: if the US Gold turns out to be very low instead of what is claimed;
or the fiat is doubled again like the last ten years; or other things happen to unbalance the
system - then these nominal numbers could be a small fraction of what they will end up being.
 
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He KINDA matches MY ICON colors... I was in that shape 1/2 century ago LOL.

He is like NUMBER 6 in Ten Reasons to BUY gold & silver...

"EVERYTHING ELSE IS REAL SCARY" (and paper ready to burn up into ashes)
 

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That is funny...Goldbrix

I appreciate your President Hoover quote in the signature.

The year was funny...

The same year they outlawed the folks to hold physical gold and paper
U.S. Gold notes... Times gone by... Have lots of baskets of the same
Physical precious (really) metals...

"soon we pass the $1370 line in the sand for gold..."
What is that?
Because there is a fight between the market (players) and TPTB (Fiat Kings) no one knows the timing, OKAY?

But that said Jim Sinclair and his partner think that between now and June of 2019 things might get exciting.
How exciting? No one knows. Once it starts then hits $1,370 then $1,400 then 1,450 then $1,500
then $1,815 then we are looking at the adding a grand then another then another... Who knows?

Then down a tad for a major four, then a major five which is really scary - up four (or more) times from the previous
high...

DYODD

Study the Elliot Wave cycles...

ONLY trust yourself DO the research, BE RIGHT, take a huge position, SIT DAMN TIGHT (patience).

Junk SILVER & gold coins L@@K great right now...
 
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Even if one does " Physically Hold It "

the .gov may take it away while that .gov CLAIMS

" your country needs your stuff "

the EO's may already be " on the books "
That's what the guns are for. They can try and take it but there will be blood!
 

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That is funny...Goldbrix

I appreciate your President Hoover quote in the signature.

The year was funny...

The same year they outlawed the folks to hold physical gold and paper
U.S. Gold notes... Times gone by... Have lots of baskets of the same
Physical precious (really) metals...



Because there is a fight between the market (players) and TPTB (Fiat Kings) no one knows the timing, OKAY?

But that said Jim Sinclair and his partner think that between now and June of 2019 things might get exciting.
How exciting? No one knows. Once it starts then hits $1,370 then $1,400 then 1,450 then $1,500
then $1,815 then we are looking at the adding a grand then another then another... Who knows?

Then down a tad for a major four, then a major five which is really scary - up four (or more) times from the previous
high...

DYODD

Study the Elliot Wave cycles...

ONLY trust yourself DO the research, BE RIGHT, take a huge position, SIT DAMN TIGHT (patience).

Junk SILVER & gold coins L@@K great right now...
If and when gold goes to $5K/ounce we'll have much bigger problems to deal with

SIT DAMN TIGHT (patience).
Copy that!
 

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It's going to be fun watching these countries ask for their gold back and get pupkis! There is no gold!
That depends on whether you are on the HOLDING side or the ASKING side. I think the ASKING side won't find the situation a joke.
 

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That depends on whether you are on the HOLDING side or the ASKING side. I think the ASKING side won't find the situation a joke.
Well yeah...
 

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The countries are THEIR own FOOLISH problem for having extremely poor finance managers - period.

The PEOPLE out there in the investment world carrying their leveraged (actually at 500 to 1 ounce of ANY real physical metals) gold and silver investment in EFTs because they CHEAPLY could save the storage and problems costs - well...

THEY's kinda will not find it a joke also... RICH on paper that is bankrupt...

They were right in the type of investment but really stupid dumb ignorant foolish nincompoop ish...
in their chosen way to invest... sadly for them...

Paper ain't worth the ink it is written with as the bullion bankers already filed bankruptcies... LOL

Again paper ain't holding anything when it is worth more than - well say $ thousands and $ thousands an ounce...
 

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The countries are THEIR own FOOLISH problem for having extremely poor finance managers - period.

The PEOPLE out there in the investment world carrying their leveraged (actually at 500 to 1 ounce of ANY real physical metals) gold and silver investment in EFTs because they CHEAPLY could save the storage and problems costs - well...

THEY's kinda will not find it a joke also... RICH on paper that is bankrupt...

They were right in the type of investment but really stupid dumb ignorant foolish nincompoop ish...
in their chosen way to invest... sadly for them...

Paper ain't worth the ink it is written with as the bullion bankers already filed bankruptcies... LOL

Again paper ain't holding anything when it is worth more than - well say $ thousands and $ thousands an ounce...
Unfortunately, it is likely much worse than that. In America, we are surrounded by people who don't own any gold.

If it is true that China is playing this out for the long run and looking several decades down the road, then we could be in serious trouble.

Let me walk you through the time tested scenario, which the Chinese (who invented paper money btw) know all too well:

1. Introduce paper backed by real value.
2. Un-back the paper and get nearly everyone to save it and use it mostly exclusively.
3. Introduce more paper in ever increasing quantities and use much of it to accumulate ALL real value items
(real money = gold, so gold is the most important of these)
4. Once you've stocked as much as possible of all the real value items and hold 60-80% of the real physical gold, then you change the rules back to only honest money for transactions.

Those with real money have all the money now.
Those without gold, grab a shovel and start looking for some, or they don't eat.

Even if you own a lot of gold in this situation, it becomes so much like a SHTF situation that you need a getaway plan with your gold. But getaway to where? At this stage of the game, it is hard to know where, but believe it or not, another 2 decades down the road, it could easily be any nation where most of their citizens saved in gold (India is about the only place where a situation like that exists, and has numerous other aspects which could be disadvantageous).
But it would fit into the globalist agenda to have in the end the 2 most populace nations on the planet to end up as top dogs.

Disclaimer: This is just speculation and many other potential long term scenarios exist.
 
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China does want to back it's currency and make it gold-backed-money.

China and Russia & whoever else has the gold will then be like the (FunnyMoney post) above the only MONEY LEFT...

Trumpy my be fighting a 10,000 mile an hour head wind trying to light the gold lamp.... with NO gold BTW...

This would follow my post above just like FUNNYMONEY figured out - they may be other choices BTW...
 

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The countries are THEIR own FOOLISH problem for having extremely poor finance managers - period.

The PEOPLE out there in the investment world carrying their leveraged (actually at 500 to 1 ounce of ANY real physical metals) gold and silver investment in EFTs because they CHEAPLY could save the storage and problems costs - well...

THEY's kinda will not find it a joke also... RICH on paper that is bankrupt...

They were right in the type of investment but really stupid dumb ignorant foolish nincompoop ish...
in their chosen way to invest... sadly for them...

Paper ain't worth the ink it is written with as the bullion bankers already filed bankruptcies... LOL

Again paper ain't holding anything when it is worth more than - well say $ thousands and $ thousands an ounce...
When the market crashes and the investors go to cash in their PM paper only to find out it's become worthless over night, that's the moment I'm waiting for.

Success is so simple as long as you don't allow greed to take over your thinking.
 

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Dishonest money is easy. Debt money is easy to manipulate and expand beyond what we can fathom. Even though Russia, China may start out with honest money, the temptation to cheat is very high. About India, gold hoards might be true, however with demonetization and vague enforcement of laws, anything can be confiscated. Very interesting times. No safe haven nor any safe zone
 

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Dishonest money is easy. Debt money is easy to manipulate and expand beyond what we can fathom. Even though Russia, China may start out with honest money, the temptation to cheat is very high. About India, gold hoards might be true, however with demonetization and vague enforcement of laws, anything can be confiscated. Very interesting times. No safe haven nor any safe zone
Very well said @madhu

Societies who have a reputation for corruption have that reputation for a reason. Unfortunately, I fear the US is quickly falling into that abyss too unless something changes soon.
 

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Very well said @madhu

Societies who have a reputation for corruption have that reputation for a reason. Unfortunately, I fear the US is quickly falling into that abyss too unless something changes soon.
Unfortunately the US isn't immune to greed and corruption either....far from it! In fact, the US has probably set the bar for corruption throughout known history
 

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the US has probably set the BAR for corruption
Fixed it for ya. That's exactly where they begin to start to unravel a society. Law. Realize the public policy democracy laid over, but still there Republic, does exactly that. Once the population learns to write laws to benefit themselves financially, aka lawyers, this is corruption in of itself, and it just escalates thru time as more and more laws (so called, but not real) allows more and more theft from the public, and this begins to feed on itself in all facets of society, Continuing to grow until collapse. We're a lot closer than most of us think.

We may be different: less corruption at the level of low level clerks and functionaries.
This could be true in any large, beginning to go to the dumps, empire in history, but even if you are correct, so what? Realize that without mass insurrection, and I mean SHTF, nothing is going to change. We will slide off this precipice into the garbage bin of history regardless.

Corruption, good lord, look what they've done to Medicine, Law, and politics. We're there.

And for most of us, it isn't going to end well.