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It's GAS and a 'hog' at that with a 33-gallon tank but with only 5-acres I'm not moving around a lot.
Good thing you got the gasoline engine. The diesel version of that is a real lemon.
 
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Nice score indeed!

Now, convert it to propane.
 

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Do as you will to help keep the farmer friend happy but I wouldn't trade a 135[got one] for a 175 in a gazillion years unless I had absolutely trashed the 175 first.
I'm still on the fence and won't do a trade this weekend to give me more time to think about it. My Perkins runs strong but does smoke a little and has trouble cranking on cold mornings when the temp is in the thirties or lower. It also has 1-remote where the 135 doesn't have any. However, the 135 had a complete engine overhaul, the lights work, and all the gauges function properly. It's in better condition than my 175.
 

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as time goes along and you get more implements lack of at least one remote becomes a issue......

in rank of importance to me tractor needs

#1 3pt
#2 live pto
#3 remote
#4 loader
#5 4wd
#6 reverser
 

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I'm picking up the IH-656 tomorrow and have yet to see it in person. After studying the pics to determine it's a 'utility' model, I noticed some camber issues with the front wheels. I wondered why all the pics have the loader in the down position and realized it 'hides' the front wheels in the 'head-on' view. I'm thinking either the wheel bearings are worn out or the spindles are severely worn or both. Any ideas what might be needed to fix this problem ? :vollkommenauf:

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Granted i have no experience with that Brand/Model of tractor

but i cant imagine wheel bearings be a big issue..

broke...bent...worn out spindle...or king pin....might be a different issue.......but shouldnt be hard IF you can get parts reasonable..(i imagine parts can be had just finding them in a junk yard sometimes can be time consuming and pricy)

might want to check out parts availability before you pick it up and at the very least negotiate pricing to cover the issue......or walk away...
 

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I'm picking up the IH-656 tomorrow and have yet to see it in person. After studying the pics to determine it's a 'utility' model, I noticed some camber issues with the front wheels. I wondered why all the pics have the loader in the down position and realized it 'hides' the front wheels in the 'head-on' view. I'm thinking either the wheel bearings are worn out or the spindles are severely worn or both. Any ideas what might be needed to fix this problem ? :vollkommenauf:

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That looks bad.

As noted here...it might be an easy fix or there might be an issue with parts. Navistar, which is what the company renamed itself, doesn't make tractors anymore. The tractor line and the Raymond Lowey IH logo were sold to Case; which was put into a bigger conglomerate. I'd wonder if International tractors are effective orphans.

That wheel angling off looks more than a bad bearing; and I can't imagine a cast spindle bending that much without breaking. I'd ask around what a replacement axle and spindles would cost before buying this one.
 

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My definition of an optimist; my 83 year old Dad gave up on his old Farmall last year and bought a "new" old tractor and refurbished bush hog! Sometimes, I think he's gonna live forever!
 

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I think you have a goldmine nearby...
I'd suggest telling your "new tractor friend" that you'd like to come help him
work on his next tractor repair...
if he's willing to go on a road trip with you.
if he's willing to do a tractor swap.
he might appreciate the free labor and someone to share his knowledge with!!
and what a great learning time for you.
and
what if you have serious steering/problems and he's willing to "help" you since you've been helping him.
and
you could loan him your tractor if you don't want to trade for the 135..
or even let him show you how to work the hay with his old tractor!

great thread!
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Granted i have no experience with that Brand/Model of tractor

but i cant imagine wheel bearings be a big issue..

broke...bent...worn out spindle...or king pin....might be a different issue.......but shouldnt be hard IF you can get parts reasonable..(i imagine parts can be had just finding them in a junk yard sometimes can be time consuming and pricy)
Well, the short answer from my research and in-person inspection is that it has the 'wrong' spindles on it. The Farmall Row Crop tractors had a different front end and I believe the angle of their spindles were different. The spindles on mine should be closer to 90-deg but instead it looks like 95-deg or better causing the camber to be off and the alignment is a bit towed in as well which can be set closer to neutral for a better stance.
 

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Well, I picked up the IH-656 last Saturday in OK. After attempting to start the tractor (bad battery) the yard worker then tried to jump it off his forklift. Several attempts but no *start*. Then guess what ?!? That crazy MF used his forklift (with straps) to lift the darn thing and tried to load it onto our trailer ! I mean just look at that loader bucket sagging like claws on a lobster when ya pull one out of a tank !!! :bear_blink:

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I was getting upset :mad: and was ready to complain because afterall, I bid and won this tractor thru auction with the promise that it was *running*. I went back into the building and talked with the sales manager and expressed my concern that if they managed to forklift the darn tractor onto the trailer then how in the hell was I suppose to unload it ?!!?!? I needed a tractor to operate under its own power and I didn't care if it smoked, belched, or otherwise. Of course he expressed it's an auction tractor and it's "AS-IS" where is and so forth. I shot back with, "I don't want my money back - but I do expect a running tractor !"

Disgusted, I told my friend since it's MY tractor on 'their' property then I need to go buy a new battery. Lots of ideas were battered around about points, no spark etc. We made it back a tad past noon and all the workers (including the yard guy) had gone home as the boss promised. We proceeded and met SUCCESS with starting her up and it ran pretty good after a few minutes (and kept running). With some work and relocating the trailer so it wouldn't push the truck while loading we got her aboard !!! I was glad we weren't coming back. By this time the manager / supervisor totally changed his demeanor and was most helpful and getting us on our way and even aired up the front tires.

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My IH-656 is home now and the maintenance will begin with fluid changes etc. but it works and starts and does everything I was promised it would do. The camber issue I'm living with for now and it's not so bad off-road. At least she's safe at home and looks to be a good workhorse for the chores I have lined up. Later that night I drove around with only one (1) light working out of four on the fenders and as the temperature dropped I drove it up to the house and shut her down for the night. The next morning I awoke at 7am to hear ice pellets hitting the windows. OMG, I left the tractor out !!! After getting ready and having a cup of joe, I headed to the 656 to try and start her up. Ice all over the seat, ice all over the controls, ice all over the cowling. I pulled the choke out (fully closed) all the way and proceeded. On the second turn over she came to life ! Not bad for an old gal that hasn't been ran too much in recent years. I'd a never been able to do that with a diesel. Mine you, I don't like the cold so working in 30-degree weather is not gonna happen,.........but when the time arises that I need to move a machine in cold temps ~ this one can do it !

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Good to see you're pleased with it.

You're obviously a more patient man than I - I'd have told him flat out, if it doesn't run it doesn't sell. No pickup and no payment...sue me! And then have countersued for the expense of getting there with a trailer.

My own experience with deals gone bad, is that when there's a lie in it, it's usually all a lie.
 

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Good to see you're pleased with it.

You're obviously a more patient man than I - I'd have told him flat out, if it doesn't run it doesn't sell. No pickup and no payment...sue me! And then have countersued for the expense of getting there with a trailer.
Yeah, some have said I have the patience of Job..........and I'm not sure if that's a blessing or a curse. :rolleyes:

Anyhow, I was hell bent on making it work out and I needed a loader badly. Can you imagine how much work it would be to shovel this ?!?! OMG, what was I thinking ?

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Yeah, some have said I have the patience of Job..........and I'm not sure if that's a blessing or a curse. :rolleyes:

Anyhow, I was hell bent on making it work out and I needed a loader badly. Can you imagine how much work it would be to shovel this ?!?! OMG, what was I thinking ?

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Shoveling muck builds CHARACTER.

Like walking to school. Through the snow. Uphill - both ways.

Yeah, I'd say you had a need.

Or else I could say the whole story was full of sh!t...but that would be uncouth. :cheerful:
 

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Well, to avoid shoveling muck as much as possible, I'll need to do a hydraulic fluid & filter change. Any tips on doing this ?!?

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There's not much to a hydraulic fluid and filter change (depending on model). Most hydraulic systems, in addition to having a filter on the return side, will have some sort of screen near the pump inlet line at the bottom of the tank /resevoir. Use a flashlite to see if the screen is mucked up. If so you'll have to figure out a way to clean it.
 

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Hoarder has that exactly right. On the masseys the inlet screen is often the problem.
 

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Snow chains on the back tires and a boulder to hold them down. I bet the added torque wreaked havoc with those wood spoked wheels.
 

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been wondering ...how are you and your tractor getting along??

FWIW....its good to make sure you use the correct type of hydraulic fluid in tractors that share hydro fluid in the transmission/clutch also
 

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Well this may not be the best place or thread to ask but its about the best I could find. We bought a small acreage, ~3 acres, over a year ago and I am looking for a lawn mower / tractor. I wish I had the 10-15k for a true small tractor and a bunch of implements but thats not in the budget at the moment. I was looking for a riding lawn mower that could attach a blade for snow removal and maybe a small cart for hauling dirt, lumber, etc. I'd really like to stay around 2k for the total but there are tons of options and price points. I think John Deere just makes a tractor for every price point but they don't really seem to be much different. Any ideas.
 

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Well this may not be the best place or thread to ask but its about the best I could find. We bought a small acreage, ~3 acres, over a year ago and I am looking for a lawn mower / tractor. I wish I had the 10-15k for a true small tractor and a bunch of implements but thats not in the budget at the moment. I was looking for a riding lawn mower that could attach a blade for snow removal and maybe a small cart for hauling dirt, lumber, etc. I'd really like to stay around 2k for the total but there are tons of options and price points. I think John Deere just makes a tractor for every price point but they don't really seem to be much different. Any ideas.
Practically any lawn tractor can pull a small cart and mow grass, working a snowplow is more complicated. Think what happens when you raise the blade. That would require either hydraulics, a winch or manual operation which is damn difficult even with a puny blade. When you have the blade off the ground, all that weight is on the front tires and front axle. Most lawn tractors have flimsy front axes and light duty front tires and wheels. You would definitely have to go used if you want to stay under 2 or 3K.
If you get a separate snowblower instead of making that one of the duties the lawn tractor has to preform, you lawn tractor options will widen.
 

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Hoarder is spot on..........even with a rear blade a sub 2k lawn tractor is not the way to go for pushing snow.....they are too light...would need chains...4wd...etc


when the budget is right a 10-15k compact ..4wd..loader..pto..mid-mower...tractor will be the way to go....seems like the implements cost more than the tractors though..
 

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DANG !!!! searcher, you beat me to it !! :s1:

BTW: I lived in Vista, Calif., home to a very big historical tractor group.
 

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That montanna video is basically my lifestyle,-minus the archaic sprayer,thanks for posting.

Hope everyone appreciates all the moving parts,and how many fk ups there are in a day.
 

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Got the boat motor running good enough for a test drive in the lake on the hottest day of the year so far and we got out this instead of going to the water.


Boys need hay for their 4H calves so I hooked up a baler I got 16 years ago by trading some sweat for it.


That girl has put up all our neeeded feed for the milk cows, horses, 4H calves, butcher cattle and straw for the critters and has not cost me more than a new chains, grease and a bit of skin. The tractor I got for $2,227 from the Municipal District 18 years ago and boys she was a best buy.



We now have the good grass feed needed for calves stacked in the yard and my neighbor is cutting the 155 acres of alfalfa for baling so I will steal enough for our cows from there[I guess stealing from yourself is OK].
 

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Another day and I needed to make hay for the two cows too. The fellow who puts up my hay for a share of the crop[then buys my share] uses an 18 foot haybine that leaves a swath far too wide for my itty baler so I have to rake it. I bought an 18 foot swather from a fellow a few years back and he threw this rake in the deal[swather and rake cost me $100 and 8 games of crib]. I had not ever hooked up to it before and boys it is like new condition[except the tires] and hooked to the 35 worked like a dream that any 13 year old can manage.



Then I went for a 1/2 mile drive east and another neighbor was using a 65.


to pull a V rake.


She's the time of year to go look at all the different haying equipment up here and it goes from junk like mine to Cadillac supreme.
 

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voodoo,
read this whole thread...
I encourage you to look at old compacts..
a jd 750 and 770 for instance...
Kubota or or other low 20 hp...
if you find one the guy will probably have 3 or more implements you can get "in the deal."
the fact that these things will be 20 to 30 years old shouldn't deter you.

for just a little over your budget...
your capabilities will vastly increase when you get out of the lawn garden size...
 

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Went to town for some oil and had to stop to take these pics.

 

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pitw.........i would like to see a pic of a 18' haybine never seen one that large in our area......everyone here that does high production uses 9-10ft discbines and drive like madmen......i put up a bit of "horse hay" myself and use old equipment also for these small batches...very nice looking well cared for old 273.....we use a couple of old jd 24ts (one to use ...one as a backup) .....sorry but i got a kick out of the mower streaks left on the corner, our 12fter will do 90deg corners the end of the haybine actually backs up if you turn tight enough....i much prefer using the old haybine instead of the newer discbines on smaller rougher fields cause it forces you to drive slower and much less of a rough ride....one of the kids doing some mowing..mower width doesnt really matter here everything gets teddered and raked anyway due to high humidity...
 

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Tn likes to make himself miserable too.:bear_thumb:
 

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Tn likes to make himself miserable too.:bear_thumb:
i am glad we dont use this 1970s technology except for just a few special critters.......i dont mind making the hay.......just hate putting it up.......low moisture big round bales first cutting....then square bale the 2nd cutting......and then distruibute it around to all the family members.....i am glad the place i live is more of a wildlife refuge hunting area and grass hay......the family members that till and crop etc have to work a lot harder at it than i do....
 

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Here's a tool I picked up maybe 15 years ago at an auction for $50 that makes spud planting so easy the wife made me quit using it a couple years ago because I'd plant toooooooo many:realmad:. Gonna do some fixin on it and see if I can trade it for a $1,000 bill.




The neighbors all like it as well and if I don't make the grand it will rot out another set of burlap bags in my yard. One horse could easily pull it and when it's done the row is hilled as well.:thumbs_up:
When I get done with fall spraying and dig out the digger I'll post a pic of it too.
 

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