For those calculating the price per mile for petrol vs electric, be sure to add in the "road use tax" that is currently avoided with electric and will be implemented as soon as enough people have committed to purchasing electric vehicles. Because most of us don't have our own oil or gas wells and no refining capacity, the best solution I can see is IF you can generate you own electricity and charge your own car without using power from the grid.
Fill your gas cans now
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(satanic communists) want us on electric. that is red flag enough to fight it. it expands their control to another level
one can easily hedge their gasoline exposure by buying an ETF, symbol UGA. that's what i do, and it has worked beautifully
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It's already in place in Oregon. These fees cover a 2 year period.
The ** is for an option to pay a lower registration fee, then 1.8 cents per mile using a government GPS tracker.
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I am seriously considering a Yamaha electric bicycle - which is more than enough to get around town here.
I can't see how that gives the Satanic nihilists control, a la Tesla. An electric vehicle is silly as your primary transportation - ideally, I'd have a bicycle and pedal. Images of Chin worker-bees aside, it's practical and healthy - only not to an old geezer like moi.
They ain't cheap. Nothing Yamaha makes is cheap - mostly they make quality (they have goofs, as every manufacturing company does).
Seems a reasonable compromise, no? I have a small motorcycle, that I don't want to sell - but if they go to 20-percent booze-corrupted gas, the m/c won't run on it. Neither will my truck like it much.
For small volumes a motorcycle uses, maybe try removing the ethanol and add a non-ethanol octane booster?
Water can be used to remove ethanol from gasoline.
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Not effectively or practically.
I've read the silly how-to stuff online. I've also seen how rebuilding carbs on older m/c's, as well as lawn mowers and other traditional small-gas tools and appliances, has become big business. If there was a practical way, it would be out by now.
Maybe not here, where I can still reliably get straight gas (a dollar extra a gallon) but in other states where it's FORBIDDEN...someone would be doing it if it could be reliably done.
I dunno, it seems pretty simple to me.
Mix some water with a gallon of gas and the ethanol binds to the water and settles out with the water, which is then drained off the bottom.
Gas floats on water. A tall skinny container will minimize the surface area betwixt the two layers resulting in more complete separation of the liquids.
There'll be some waste, as you'll end up draining a bit of the gas to ensure all the water gets removed.
Be a hassle for the volume a car would use, but a gallon or so for a motorcycle? It should be pretty easy to do.
Why aren't the wokenards asking these companies, like they pose to Musk, why don't you use those profits to feed, educate, give free cell phones, EBT cards, free education...oh...nevermind...
around here people use elec golf carts. cops mostly look the other way
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Wouldn't work here.
You would not BELIEVE the traffic...here in fer-fuxxake, MONTANA....
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I think they're in denial.
Put the $$$ fill-up on the Magic Plastic. And party on!
Eventually, the bills come due; the credit limit is reached; there is no more.
The only difference here is, the shocking rise in the price of small used cars. The few Geo Metros left, are going for around $6k...that's a cheap throwaway car that was discontinued, 20 years ago. You can't even FIND a Toyota Echo or Yaris. Corollas, even more than ten years old, are five figures, if they're in any shape at all.
Price of older trucks is starting to fall.
rbob still ripping higher. in a week or two we will be paying 4.35 in texas. that's a good jump up from the previous high a month ago
Penny wise and pound foolish. Lol. Buying a geo metro for $6 grand?
Damn that's dumb. Six grand would probably buy them more than enough gas to get through this "crisis". Not to mention all the transaction fees and costs.
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CA is already wanting to put a gps on everyones car so they can charge by how many miles you drive
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Filled up some gas cans today. $4.39 for non-ethanol gasoline.
Thank you Biden, for building back broken!
Thank you Biden, for building back broken!
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Probably the demand vice supply of diesel turned out not to be so critical. Or at least in your area.
That's not unexpected, when we have mediuh cretins that just lie and incite panic, for the hell of it and to push their toxic agendas...
just got back from town.
87 octane..3.99
road diesel...4.51
tractor diesel...4.29
87 octane..3.99
road diesel...4.51
tractor diesel...4.29
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Out here, an hour ago, regular booze-corrupted, is $4.49.
Highest it's been, here. It held at $3.99 for two weeks, but that's done, now.
Highest it's been, here. It held at $3.99 for two weeks, but that's done, now.
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Bought 91 octane non ethanol fuel on a trip to Montana a week or so ago for 4.25 or so mostly at stations branded as maverick.
South Central Oregon just left the 4 dollar range in the dust.
87 Octane is $5.01
Diesel is $5.97
87 Octane is $5.01
Diesel is $5.97
Diesel is $4.58/gal here. Filled both tractors, my pickup truck, and four 5 gallon Jerry cans.
Just paid $4.59 here. $111 to fill my pickup!!!
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Topped of everything I own (tractor has a 29 gallon gas tank). Going to refill gas cans that I emptied. Last fill of gas cans was $170.00. I stocked up last year on PRB-C, Sea-Foam, Stabil, etc.
At this point, I am not worried about the price of gas, but its availability. Dumb azz in the White House is not going to do anything to remedy the crisis. He helped cause it. I am betting on gas rationing later this year.
At this point, I am not worried about the price of gas, but its availability. Dumb azz in the White House is not going to do anything to remedy the crisis. He helped cause it. I am betting on gas rationing later this year.
I think most of us here know this already but this is intentional from the Climate Change Cult.
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The Biden Administration Deliberately Destroyed Our Capacity to Produce Energy | Armstrong Economics
Everyone who voted for Biden will continue to see their future utterly destroyed. The climate change people are deliberately destroying the capacity to produce energy without any alternative in place. The word from DC is that they "do not give a sh-t" about the people. They want to destroy our
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BJ’s is offering 75 cents off per gallon of gas
Starting now through June 15th, BJ’s Wholesale Club members are able to save .75 cents/gallon of gas when they purchase four qualifying items.
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CHICOPEE, Mass (WWLP) – Starting now through June 15th, BJ’s Wholesale Club members are able to save .75 cents/gallon of gas when they purchase four qualifying items.
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Filled up the rest of the gas cans. No-ethanol gas was $4.49 gallon. One of my customers, is the head bookkeeper for the biggest gas station in the city I work in. She says the forecast is $9.00 diesel in August.
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I've got 80 cents off gas this month from Albertsons.
It's Chevron and that are usually 10 cents higher than other stations like Sam's club.
I'll dump the rest of my gas cans in the car, take the truck out tonight...fill the three cans and the rest in the truck up to 25 gallons of gas @ $4.59.
The way the day has been Chevron with probably raise the price before I get gas tonight.
Update.
FJB... remember when gas was half the price it is now without the rewards program.
14 gallons in the cans and 11 into the trunk makes my allotted 25 gallon cut off.
Fry's gas rewards gives you a 35 gallon allotment
They know the average bear isn't going to put 35 gallons in one car even at $1 off a gallon.
I've got a friend who calls me when he's going to fill up and I usually squeak out 10/15 gallons of his allowed 35.
Everything helps, I usually change the gas and get that 1% back in rewards.
It's Chevron and that are usually 10 cents higher than other stations like Sam's club.
I'll dump the rest of my gas cans in the car, take the truck out tonight...fill the three cans and the rest in the truck up to 25 gallons of gas @ $4.59.
The way the day has been Chevron with probably raise the price before I get gas tonight.
Update.
FJB... remember when gas was half the price it is now without the rewards program.
14 gallons in the cans and 11 into the trunk makes my allotted 25 gallon cut off.
Fry's gas rewards gives you a 35 gallon allotment
They know the average bear isn't going to put 35 gallons in one car even at $1 off a gallon.
I've got a friend who calls me when he's going to fill up and I usually squeak out 10/15 gallons of his allowed 35.
Everything helps, I usually change the gas and get that 1% back in rewards.
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I just saw a Forbes article that suggested $10/gal gas is coming to a station near you....and soon.
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Preparing us. Softening the impact, I guess.
These mediocre Elites, know not what a powder keg they're lighting off. When the schitt blows, it will BLOW.
Mogadishu writ large.
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Now what kenyan wanted that to usher in ev's..................
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Yea a gallon or two........ trying to get to payday or at least a little further down the road......
This is going to be ugly.
this will help
260,000 barrel capacity - that's half of a gigantic refinery
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HOUSTON, April 21 (Reuters) - Chemical maker Lyondell Basell Industries (LYB.N) will permanently close its Houston crude oil refinery by the end of 2023, the company said on Thursday.
The decision comes after two failed attempts to sell the plant and the closing of five U.S. refineries in the last two years. Refining until recently has been beset by high costs and low margins.
"After thoroughly analyzing our options, we have determined that exiting the refining business by the end of next year is the best strategic and financial path forward," said Ken Lane, interim chief executive.
The refinery, which makes gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, will remain in operation and the company will continue to seek potential transactions and/or alternatives for the roughly 700-acre site on the Houston Ship Channel.
The company earlier took a $624 million non-cash impairment charge as part of its decision to exit refining. In the past 10 years, Lyondell has twice mounted efforts to sell the 263,776 barrel-per-day refinery but failed to conclude a deal.
John Auers, executive vice president of Turner, Mason & Co, a Dallas-based energy consultancy, said Thursday's announcement means "there will definitely be people knocking on the door" to look at the refinery.
"The refinery could sell for a significant amount," Auers said. "I certainly don't expect it to close given this statement."
Lyondell said the refinery, once the anchor of its supply chain as a regional chemical company, no longer fit with its global petrochemical production.
Shutting the refinery provides opportunities for the company, Lane said.
"While this was a difficult decision, our exit of the refining business advances the company's decarbonization goals, and the site's prime location gives us more options for advancing our future strategic objectives, including circularity," Lane said.
Circularity refers to efforts by plastics manufacturers to increase spare finished plastics from landfills and return them to the supply chain for chemical plants.
260,000 barrel capacity - that's half of a gigantic refinery
Lyondell Basell to shutter Houston oil refinery in exit from refining
Chemical maker Lyondell Basell Industries will permanently close its Houston crude oil refinery by the end of 2023, the company said on Thursday.
Lyondell Basell to shutter Houston oil refinery in exit from refining
HOUSTON, April 21 (Reuters) - Chemical maker Lyondell Basell Industries (LYB.N) will permanently close its Houston crude oil refinery by the end of 2023, the company said on Thursday.
The decision comes after two failed attempts to sell the plant and the closing of five U.S. refineries in the last two years. Refining until recently has been beset by high costs and low margins.
"After thoroughly analyzing our options, we have determined that exiting the refining business by the end of next year is the best strategic and financial path forward," said Ken Lane, interim chief executive.
The refinery, which makes gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, will remain in operation and the company will continue to seek potential transactions and/or alternatives for the roughly 700-acre site on the Houston Ship Channel.
The company earlier took a $624 million non-cash impairment charge as part of its decision to exit refining. In the past 10 years, Lyondell has twice mounted efforts to sell the 263,776 barrel-per-day refinery but failed to conclude a deal.
John Auers, executive vice president of Turner, Mason & Co, a Dallas-based energy consultancy, said Thursday's announcement means "there will definitely be people knocking on the door" to look at the refinery.
"The refinery could sell for a significant amount," Auers said. "I certainly don't expect it to close given this statement."
Lyondell said the refinery, once the anchor of its supply chain as a regional chemical company, no longer fit with its global petrochemical production.
Shutting the refinery provides opportunities for the company, Lane said.
"While this was a difficult decision, our exit of the refining business advances the company's decarbonization goals, and the site's prime location gives us more options for advancing our future strategic objectives, including circularity," Lane said.
Circularity refers to efforts by plastics manufacturers to increase spare finished plastics from landfills and return them to the supply chain for chemical plants.
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SABOTAGE! It's not that we can't produce fuel, it's that we are no longer PERMITTED to! A few visits to certain individuals in the dead of night could easily fix that problem