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Floyd Autopsy

Nothing on Snopes about this latest.
It will be a sizeable legal claim if this is correct!
Also says a lot about shooting from the hip.....
The effin world ought to read this - if it’s correct.

Not sure the radical left will like this, the Floyd Autopsy result released today:
Well well. It looks like the Officers up for the Murder of George Floyd will be found NOT guilty; A bit long, but this is the full Autopsy report;
FACTS...NO EMOTION
The George Floyd autopsy report is
The report is 20 pages long, and it is detailed.


The autopsy was performed by a board-certified forensic pathologist and reviewed by a second board-certified forensic pathologist prior to release.
The autopsy was thorough, the report fair, and unbiased.
The first thing that jumps out when reading the Floyd autopsy report:​
"No life-threatening injuries were identified".
That is a direct quote.​
There were no facial, oral mucosal, or conjunctival petechiae noted.
Most people have never heard the word Petechiae.
Petechiae is a pinhead size red or purple spot on the surface of the skin which is the result of tiny ruptures in blood vessels resulting in hemorrhage just below the skin.
Petechiae are normal and expected when air and blood flow are cut off at the neck by any mechanism.
The eyes are the best place see petechiae.
If you cut off blood circulation, blood pressure spikes up which breaks blood vessels, and that causes petechiae.
The pathologist that did the autopsy dissected George Floyd's neck muscles layer by layer.
The dissection did not find any contusion or hemorrhage in any of the muscles.​
If Derek Chauvin's knee on George Floyd's neck cut off blood flow, the pressure would have ruptured blood vessels, which would have caused bleeding into the surrounding tissue.
The bleeding would have been massive and visible to the naked eye.
There was no bleeding into neck tissue.
If Chauvin's knee cut off Floyd's air supply, the pressure would have broken the esophageal cartilage. That is 100% certain.
Place your thumb and index on your esophagus. Press backward into your neck.
When you get as far back as you can comfortably push, lock your fingers, pull them out and look how big your esophagus actually is.
You don't collapse the esophagus to the point of cutting off air flow without breaking the cartilage.
In a forensic autopsy, the pathologist examines the esophagus in place, then removes the entire esophagus and cuts the entire length open and examines the inside.
Floyd's neck and esophagus did not have any trauma.​
The thyroid cartilage and hyoid bone were both intact and unbroken.
The cervical spinal column was palpably stable and free of hemorrhage.​
The anterior muscles of neck and laryngeal structures were trauma free.​
That means Chauvin's knee did not cause any trauma to any part off the neck.​
There was no scalp soft tissue, skull, or brain trauma noted.
There were no chest wall soft tissue injuries, vertebral column injuries, or visceral injuries.​
That means Floyd's internal organs did not show any trauma.
Floyd did have a single rib fracture from CPR. That is normal.
The pathologist rolled Floyd's body over and incision the posterior and lateral neck, shoulders, back, flanks, and buttocks looking for deep tissue trauma.
There was no trauma present.
The pathologist did observe cutaneous injuries to the forehead, face, upper lip, the mucosal injuries of the lips, cutaneous injuries to the shoulders, hands, elbows, and legs.
Cutaneous injuries are confined to the skin. Some of the injuries were healing and happened before Floyd's arrest.
The rest were probably the result of scraping contact with pavement during the arrest.
There was no trauma below the skin.
The pathologist noted and documented patterned contusions and abrasions to the wrists consistent with handcuffs.​
If you watched the video, you can hear Floyd saying he can't breathe.​
If you can't breathe, you can't say you can't breathe.
Why is that is so hard to understand.​
The autopsy established that Floyd had a history of hypertension, hypertensive heart disease, severe arteriosclerotic heart disease, and an enlarged heart.
Floyd had a left pelvic tumor which did not contribute to his death. Floyd tested positive for COVID 19.​
Toxicology puts the nail in the coffin of Ellison's murder charge.
The individual that called 911 said that Floyd was extremely drunk and not in control of himself.
On one video, Floyd's legs buckled and he fell beside a squad car.​
That shows a loss of control.Floyd tested positive for Fentanyl 11 ng/mL.
Blood concentrations of 7 ng/ml have been associated with fatalities where multi drugs were used.
Floyd was a multiple drug user.
Floyd tested positive for Norfentanyl at 5.6 ng/mL a metabolite of Fentanyl.​
NOTE: The body metabolizes Fentanyl into Norfentanyl.
Floyd tested positive for 4-ANPP 0.65 ng/mL. 4-ANPP is an intermediate in the synthesis of fentanyl and related opioids and is often found as an impurity in fentanyl preparations.​
A urine drug screen confirmation 86 ng/mL of free morphine.
(NOTE: The body metabolizes opioids like Fentanyl into morphine.)​
Floyd tested positive for 11-Hydroxy Delta-9 THC 1.2 ng/mL; Delta-9 Carboxy THC 42 ng/mL; Delta-9 THC 2.9 ng/mL.
That means he smoked weed.​
Floyd tested positive for Caffeine.
Apparently Floyd ate No-Doz by the handful and slugged down 5-hour Energy Drinks, which are caffeine based.
Caffeine may seem harmless, but it is a stimulant that increases heart rate and spikes blood pressure up.
People with hypertension should limit their caffeine intake.
Floyd apparently did not limit his caffeine intake.​
Floyd had 19 ng/mL of Methamphetamine in his system.
Methamphetamine can cause confusion, hallucinations, convulsions, and circulatory collapse.​
A man with high blood pressure and heart disease should not be getting high on Meth.​
There is one more section in the autopsy report that precludes murder charges:​
The microscopic examination.​
The pathologist doing the autopsy takes multiple tissue samples from each organ in the body.​
The samples are sent into one end of Histology and come out the other end as slides that a pathologist can examine at the cellular level under a microscope.​
Seven slides of George Floyd's liver showed marked congestion.​
Eight slides of his kidney showed marked congestion.
Nine slides of Floyd's adrenal glands showed marked congestion.​
Nine slides of his spleen showed marked congestion.
Marked used in this context means evident and clearly noticeable.​
The most important slides, the slides with the big picture, concern Floyd's brain.​
The pathologist that did the autopsy took tissue sections from Floyd's hippocampus, cerebellum, cerebral cortex, and midbrain.​
The microscopic architecture of Floyd's brain was normal.
The slides did not show any sign of hypoxic - ischemia, or reactive, neoplastic, or inflammatory changes.​
Hypoxic-ischemic encephalopathy is the result of a lack of oxygen to the brain. The lack of oxygen quickly damages brain cells.​
Floyd's brain cells did not show any hypoxic-ischemic encephalopathy. None.​
Hypoxic-ischemic encephalopathy is present in all strangulations.​
That blows up the narrative that Derek Chauvin choked George Floyd to death, on video for all the world to see.
The slides of Floyd's brain disprove what people think they saw in the video of Floyd's arrest.​
The video looks bad, but Chauvin's actions did not kill Floyd.​
 

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George Floyd Autopsy Shows No Trauma

The preliminary results of the autopsy on George Floyd, who dies Monday after an encounter with the Minneapolis Police Department, showed that his death was not from strangulation or asphyxiation, which would have indicated that the neck restraint did not cause the death of Floyd.

“Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease,” said the complaint from the Hennepin County Attorney.

https://www.lawofficer.com/george-floyd-autopsy/

George Floyd Autopsy Finds No Evidence of Asphyxia or Strangulation, Family Plans Second Examination

The preliminary autopsy results of George Floyd found no evidence that he died of asphyxiation or strangulation, according to the criminal complaint filed against former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, who is accused of kneeling on Floyd’s neck for almost nine minutes.

Floyd’s family has now hired forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden to perform a second, independent autopsy, Baden confirmed to Fox News.
Baden, who formerly was New York City’s chief medical examiner, said he was set to travel to Minneapolis on Saturday and announce his findings next week.
Chauvin, 44, was arrested and charged Friday with third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter.

The case, which grew out of an arrest over suspicion of Floyd trying to buy merchandise with a counterfeit $20 bill, became a national flashpoint after video of Chauvin kneeling on Floyd’s neck circulated on social media.

His death has sparked protests across the United States this week, which in many cases have turned into riots.

According to the criminal complaint against Chauvin, Floyd fell to the ground when police sought to get him into a squad car.

“The officers made several attempts to get Mr. Floyd in the backseat of squad 320 from the driver’s side,” the complaint said. “Mr. Floyd did not voluntarily get in the car and struggled with the officers by intentionally falling down, saying he was not going in the car, and refusing to stand still.”

“While standing outside the car, Mr. Floyd began saying and repeating that he could not breathe,” the complaint added, saying that Chauvin “went to the passenger side and tried to get Mr. Floyd into the car from that side” with help from other officers.

Chauvin “pulled Mr. Floyd out of the passenger side of the squad car at 8:19:38 p.m. and Mr. Floyd went to the ground face down and still handcuffed,” it said.

While other officers held his back and legs, the complaint said Chauvin “placed his left knee in the area of Mr. Floyd’s head and neck.”

“Mr. Floyd said, ‘I can’t ‘breathe’ multiple times and repeatedly said, ‘Mama’ and ‘please’ as well,” the complaint said, later adding: “The officers said, ‘You are talking fine.'”

After several minutes, when officers could not find a pulse on Floyd, Chauvin “removed his knee from Mr. Floyd’s neck,” according to the complaint.
The complaint noted: “The Hennepin County Medical Examiner (ME) conducted Mr. Floyd’s autopsy on May 26 , 2020. The full report of the ME is pending but the ME has made the following preliminary findings.
“The autopsy revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation.”
The complaint then cited other possible reasons Floyd died.

“Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease. The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death,” it said.

“The defendant had his knee on Mr. Floyd’s neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds in total. Two minutes and 53 seconds of this was after Mr. Floyd was non-responsive. Police are trained that this type of restraint with a subject in a prone position is inherently dangerous.”

Ben Crump and S. Lee Merritt, attorneys for Floyd’s family,

note: The family HAS to have something OTHER than he died of drug over dose, because if that is why Floyd died, they CAN'T SUE the city for millions of dollars - Jimw

said a second autopsy was needed, recalling the 2014 death of Eric Garner, who was put in a chokehold by New York City police and later died. Baden performed an autopsy in the Garner case.

“We saw in the Eric Garner case, and so many other cases where they have people who work with the city workers come up with things that are such an illusion — he had asthma, he had a heart condition — all these things that are irrelevant when they were living, breathing, walking, talking, just fine until the police accosted them,” Crump said at a news conference, according to ABC News.

Crump framed the case as an example of what he claimed is a national climate of racism.

“We have been dealing with the pandemic of racism and discrimination for far too long,” he said.

“It is a pandemic, a national pandemic, we cannot keep looking at this regionally, this is affecting all African-Americans, this a state of emergency.

“If we don’t address this in the next month or two we will see another senseless, unjustifiable killing of an African-American at the hands by people who are police or pretend to be police,” Crump added.




https://www.westernjournal.com/geor...trangulation-family-plans-second-examination/
 
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Who cares about Floyd? He was a victim of his life style.

Hopefully officer Derek Chauvin can get on with some kind of life again.

At least get out of jail after he was falsely imprisoned for just for doing his job.
 

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The joke is when some of you guys get falsely imprisoned and find out there are no fellow patriots there to support you. None. Zip.

That kind of karma is gonna suck.,hard Floyd will be the hero and your interrogators will want to know why you supported white radical supremists.
 
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I thought that the autopsy said fentanyl overdose, effects made "worse" by "restraint" of his body (presumably)?
 

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What is an officer to do when a violent suspect says "I can't breath"?
I understand that suspects often say that to get an advantage in the struggle....
 

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How much fentanyl will kill you?
Mar 19, 2018

Less than you think
Harm Reduction Ohio reviewed all available research and worked with an anesthesiologist, plus two Ph.D. chemists, to estimate how much fentanyl will kill you. It’s much less than you think — especially if you’re a new user or one who hasn’t used recently.


These estimates are for non-tolerant opioid users.

One thousand micrograms is very likely to stop your breathing and kill you. Even half that amount will put you at death’s door.

When anesthesiologists knock you out for surgery, they start with 25 micrograms…wait a few minutes…then give another 25 micrograms for a total of 50 micrograms.

Over multi-hour open heart surgeries, patients might get 250 to 500 micrograms of fentanyl total. In extreme cases, maybe 700 micrograms.

Street doses of fentanyl (mixed into heroin or not) might be in the 500 to 2,000 microgram range, although beware of this claim. In truth, almost nothing is actually known about how much fentanyl is in street drugs, and doses vary enormously, often far outside this range, on both the lower and higher end.

Opioid tolerant users
Regular heroin users who have a tolerance to opioids can take more fentanyl, possibly two or three times more, without suffering an overdose.

According to one report, long-time addicts who desire fentanyl seek dose ranges between 250 and 1,000 micrograms. These amounts can kill a non-tolerant users, including veteran heroin users who have been abstinent for awhile

Little room for error


The traditional size of a heroin mixture is 100,000 micrograms — or 1/10th of a gram. Cocaine mixtures vary in size but 250,000 micrograms — or a quarter of a gram — might be found in a typical dose.

Doing the math tells you that fentanyl must be an extremely tiny portion of a drug mixture if that mixture is treated as heroin or cocaine. Fentanyl should always be diluted to a maximum of one part fentanyl to 1,000 parts filler. Dilute, dilute, dilute.

Conventional medical wisdom is that 2,000 micrograms is the “minimum lethal dose” — in other words, the smallest amount that can be fatal. This estimate is far too high. Two thousand micrograms of pure fentanyl injected into a vein would cause even most heavy heroin users to overdose — especially if fentanyl is mixed with any other substance, such as heroin, alcohol or Xanax.

The official estimate is a guess based on a handful of anecdotes. The cases all involved users with high opioid tolerance. And, remember, they were dead.

What about analogs?
Fentanyl is the only drug estimated in the chart. The numbers do not apply to fentanyl analogs.

Fentanyl has more than 600 analogs (variants). An ever-changing group of about 20 analogs is found in street drugs.

Each analog has a different safety profile. Some are more dangerous than fentanyl, a few appear to be a little less likely to cause overdoses (but still more likely to do so than heroin).

One analog, carfentanil, is especially dangerous. It can never be used safely by humans because it is potent in amounts so infinitesimal that it can never be properly diluted in street drugs.

The invisible killer: “Hot spots”
Doses vary widely in illegal drugs. Even the same mixture can have inconsistent potency and include potentially fatal “hot spots.”

A “hot spot” is part of a mixture that has an unexpectedly greater amount of fentanyl. “Hot spots” are invisible and unavoidable in street drugs containing fentanyl.

“Hot spots” exist because of the chemical nature of fentanyl molecules: fentanyl cannot be mixed into or “cut” into an existing powder without leaving dangerous, unseen clumps of fentanyl. No matter how much you grind or stir or shake the fentanyl mixture, potentially deadly “hot spots” will remain.

Why is this? Brief science lesson:

A 50 microgram dose of fentanyl contains about 90,000,000,000,000,000 fentanyl molecules. Molecules are sticky and tend to clump together, like magnets do.

To equally mix 90 quadrillion fentanyl molecules with molecules of another powder requires an extra step — putting all the powder into a liquid, shaking up the liquid and then re-evaporating everything back into a powder. Shaking in a liquid is required to separate fentanyl molecules and eliminate hot spots.

This step is not done in illegal drug markets, so “hot spots” remain a serious problem.

How users can reduce overdose risk
The best way to avoid overdose death is not to use. If you do use, the British harm reduction group Release offers these tips for saying safe:
  • Start with a small amount, e.g., a dab or half a pill.
  • Don’t be afraid to seek help and be honest about what you have taken.
  • Avoid mixing drugs, especially with alcohol.
  • Look after friends. If they are sleeping or unconscious, put them in the recovery position.
  • Tell someone you are with what you have taken.
  • Try to buy from a trusted source.
  • Try to avoid injecting, as getting the right amount is difficult for first-time users and it carries greater risks. For more information on this please refer to the ‘injecting drug use’ section.
  • Try to use with trusted friends in a safe environment, especially if it’s your first time.
Extra advice for opiates, e.g. Heroin, Morphine etc.
  • Dosage is very easy to get wrong and the biggest risk from opiate use is overdose.
  • Smoking on foil is safer than injecting or snorting.
  • If it is possible keep some Narcan (antidote to overdose) at hand.
  • Do not mix with other Central Nervous System (CNS) depressants (alcohol, benzodiazepines or barbituates).
  • Make sure you are in a safe environment, with trusted people, as opiates can make the user less aware of other high-risk behavior.