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Flu season is raging and family gatherings may make it worse

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Flu activity in the United States has really taken off, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported on Friday.
A number of modeling experts the agency works with are predicting that this year’s flu season will peak around the end of this month, Dr. Daniel Jernigan, head of the agency’s influenza division, told STAT.
That means lots of people will be sick over the holidays; lots already are. And the multi-generational family gatherings that are part and parcel of the holidays will fuel the spread of the nasty virus.
“Thinking about folks that are traveling right now, it would be fruitful for them to know that flu could be traveling with them,” Jernigan said.
The CDC reports weekly — on Fridays — on the status of flu activity during the season. There is a one-week lag in the data, so Friday’s snapshot reflected how things stood through the week that ended Dec. 16.
The graph of outpatient illness surveillance — which records the portion of people who sought health care because of flu-like symptoms — shot up from the previous week and appears to be on the same trajectory as the 2014-15 flu season, which also started early and was a severe year.
The most recent data show flu is raging in 23 states, compared to 12 states the previous week.
“We’re continuing to see an increase — and a pretty sizeable one,’’ said Dr. Alicia Budd, an epidemiologist in the Jernigan’s division.
But that curve only tells you there’s a lot of flu around, Jernigan warned. It is not an indicator of the severity of the flu season.
This year could well be a severe year. The viruses causing most of the illness right now are from an influenza A family called H3N2. Those viruses are especially hard on older people and H3 seasons generally are more severe that seasons when H1N1 or influenza B viruses are dominant.
Unfortunately the H3N2 component of the flu shot is an under-performer, often offering protection that is in the 30 percent range. (The other components more commonly offer between 50 percent and 70 percent protection.) So even people who have been vaccinated may find themselves coming down with flu, Jernigan said.
“But clearly, it’s enough for us to say [to] everybody who’s getting ready to go and visit their grandmother and their families in the next few weeks, that from these data, it indicates that there may be a fair amount of flu circulating around that time.”

He suggested people who are sick should do their relatives and friends a favor and stay home from holiday gatherings. “If you know you have flu, it is really important to not share that, especially with those who are at highest risk of severe disease,” he said.
The CDC is urging health care professionals to be aware of the fact that even vaccinated patients may get the flu this year, Jernigan said. Patients who have other health conditions that predispose them to getting very sick when they contract influenza should be prescribed anti-viral drugs, he said.

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Every one I know is a tad sick but as per physically sick, naw. K, all funnies aside I have a female friend (no not that way,) anywhoo she gets that flu shot every year and damm if she don't get the flu, amazing.

So the girl has been down sick with something for the last two days, two of my other friends (a couple) have had a touch of something and me? Why I am the epiphany of instability as far as body health goes, yes I have been fighting an ear infucktion for a while and soon it will end in a torrent of "ghee-hawds can I just die now?" good to know this will happen at the end of the month as timing is everything. Thanks abeland1....at least I can plan ahead now.
 

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Here's what y'all need:
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First onset of symptoms and you take a tablespoonful of this and then another every eight hours or so until it kills off your sickness. Then a maintenance spoonful in the AM and before you go to bed for the rest of the week. Usually stops the progress of the flue for me and reduces the symptoms dramatically the first day and keeps them at bay. And by the end of a week they are mostly gone and I'm recovered.

YMMV,
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Here's what y'all need:
First onset of symptoms and you take a tablespoonful of this and then another every eight hours or so until it kills off your sickness. Then a maintenance spoonful in the AM and before you go to bed for the rest of the week. Usually stops the progress of the flue for me and reduces the symptoms dramatically the first day and keeps them at bay. And by the end of a week they are mostly gone and I'm recovered.

YMMV,
BF
From Cate Sibley, PharmD
Elderberries, have been used for thousands of years as both medicine and in food. Elderberries are thought to prevent or shorten the duration of herpes outbreaks, decrease pain and inflammation, and reduce symptoms of upper respiratory infections. Many people consider the elderberry plant one of the most powerful for preventing and treating colds and influenza and swear by its antiviral properties. The results of some studies show that elderberries do indeed have significant benefits against cold and influenza symptoms.
In one placebo-controlled, double-blind study conducted by Israeli virologist Dr. Madeleine Mumcuoglu, 93.3% of the people taking an elderberry preparation reported significant improvement in influenza symptoms within 2 days of starting it, compared with the 6 days it took for the placebo group to see improvement. 1
In another randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study performed in Norway, researchers gave either a placebo syrup or elderberry syrup to patients who reported having flu-like symptoms for less than 48 hours. The results were similar to Dr. Mumcuoglu’s results. On average, the patients who received the elderberry syrup saw relief of symptoms 4 days earlier than the group that received the placebo syrup. As an added benefit, the patients in the elderberry syrup group reported taking significantly fewer over-the-counter medications in hopes of symptom relief. 2
Researchers also have found that people who have taken elderberries have higher levels of antibodies against the influenza virus, showing that not only may the berry be able to treat flu symptoms, it may also be able to prevent influenza infection. 3
So how are elderberries thought to work as an antiviral? There are probably many mechanisms of action, but a prime one is that elderberries contain hemagglutinin protein. This protein has been shown to stop a virus’ capability to replicate by inhibiting its ability to penetrate the cell wall, thereby preventing the virus from causing infection if taken before exposed. If elderberries are taken after infection, that keeps the virus from spreading, which reduces the duration of influenza symptoms.
Are elderberries safe? It seems that the elderberry plant is generally safe for most people. Eating the raw seed can lead to nausea and vomiting for those who eat too many of them, however. And beware of commercial powders, as some have been reported to cause vomiting because they may contain the seeds.
For those who don't have a local source or would rather not make their own, pre-made elderberry tinctures and syrups are plentiful online, too. Follow the directions on the label of whichever product is purchased.
All in all, elderberries could be a great option for patients to add to their medicine cabinets to prevent and treat cold and flu symptoms.
References
1. Zakay-Rones Z, Varsano N, Zlotnik M, et al. Inhibition of several strains of influenza virus in vitro and reduction of symptoms by an elderberry extract (Sambucus Nigra L.) during an outbreak of Influenza B Panama. J Altern Complement Med. 1995;1(4):361–9.
2. Zakay-Rones Z, Thom E, Wollan T, Wadstein J. Randomized study of the efficacy and safety of oral elderberry extract in the treatment of Influenza A and B virus infections.” J Int Med Res. 2004;32(2):132-40.
3. Roschek Jr. B, Fink RC, McMichael MD, et al. Elderberry flavonoids bind to and prevent H1N1 infection in vitro. Phytochemistry. 2009;70(10):1255-61. doi: 10.1016/j.phytochem.2009.06.003.
 

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That means don't walk, RUN down to your local Walgreens and get your shot before the flue gets YOU...
FLU SHOT ????? Are you suicidal ??? I really hope you are kidding.

My way to stay well includes:
Stay out of a movie theater
Don't visit your kids or grand kids, in school
Try to stay out of hospitals (damn, I'm in for surgery in the morning).
Stay out of airliners
Shop off hours
Don't take a flu shot
 

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Thanks for the write-up, abe, I've been using this brand for about five years now.
I don't take it on a regular basis, just when I come down the the flu. It worked for me this year, but not as well as usual. The flu this season is pretty nasty and I pretty much felt like shit for about four days. A couple days coming into it, those four days, and two weeks afterwards of aches & pains, coughing and hacking up stuff.

All gone now, back to my regular diet.

:D:D
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upper respiratory infections
That is my weakness, my N.D. Doctor/friend has me take 5K mg 3X a day and drink lots of water.
I have taken Elderberries many years ago, I will get some for "insurance".
 
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yes I have been fighting an ear infucktion for a while and soon it will end in a torrent of "ghee-hawds can I just die now?"
Last time I thought I had an ear infection I filled my ear canal with colloidal silver and went to sleep. Funny how my subconscious kept me from rolling over and emptying the ear while I was sleeping. Anyway my ear problem was gone in the morning. I was ready to rinse and repeat.
 

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Colloidal silver, yeah, now that I'm an old man and more susceptible to crap. I should start makin it.
I hear that you should have high purity silver to start with, but that's about it. There's plenty of info out there for doing home brew, so I guess I should get with it.

BF
 

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As the country battles an especially fierce flu season, experts have struggled to explain why one family of virus — the influenza A virus H3N2 — that has infected a lot of people in recent years is causing so much damage again this winter.
Now, new data from north of the border sheds some light on the question.
Canadian influenza researchers reported Thursday in the online journal Eurosurveillance that the first reckoning of how well the flu vaccine is protecting against H3N2 viruses this year in North America has a dismal answer: not very.
Their midseason estimate, based on data from the four provinces where roughly 80 percent of Canadians live, suggested that the H3N2 component of the vaccine is 17 percent effective at preventing infection. Last year it was estimated at 37 percent in Canada and 34 percent in the U.S.
Public health authorities have come to expect protection against H3N2 — the weak link of the vaccine — to be in the low-to-mid 30 percent range at best. But this estimate is half that. And the fact that it was so much lower came as a surprise to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s flu experts, who have yet to analyze their midseason flu vaccine effectiveness data.
“It was lower than what the Canadians or we experienced last year,” said Alicia Fry, head of epidemiology for the CDC’s influenza division. Given that there haven’t been major changes in the viruses, “it is a surprising result.”
Fry said the CDC surveillance network will stop collecting data for their interim analysis next week, and the agency will publish their findings mid-month. Both teams will also reanalyze their surveillance data at the end of the season, when more data typically brings a sharper focus to the findings.
The new research also reported that — at least in Canada — a new subgroup of the H3N2 clan has become the dominant H3N2 viruses causing illness this season. It may be that the vaccine isn’t targeting that group of viruses effectively. The U.S. is seeing a similar pattern, said Jacqueline Katz, deputy director of the CDC’s influenza division.
Whatever the reason, the findings confirm the fact that people who’ve been vaccinated are among those contracting flu this season.
“This is low protection. And the overall message is: People who have been vaccinated should not consider themselves invincible against this H3N2 virus that’s circulating,” said Dr. Danuta Skowronski, lead author of the report and an influenza epidemiologist at the British Columbia Center for Disease Control.
“That means getting early medical care, antiviral treatment for those at high risk of influenza complications. That’s the main value of reporting these midseason estimates.”
 

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Flu spread is worse than ever: 53 children have died and hospitalization rate is STILL climbing despite outbreak easing in the West, CDC reveals
  • The CDC reported today that 16 more children have died from the flu this season, bringing the death toll up to 53
  • Hospital visits have skyrocketed in the US and are the highest on record
  • Dr Dan Jernigan, director of the CDC's Influenza Division, said on Friday that
  • Oregon reported regional flu activity this week, bringing the number of states where the virus is widespread down to 48
  • Canadian researchers revealed on Thursday that the flu vaccine is less than 20 percent effective while it was originally thought to be 34 percent effective


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I don't know anyone with the flu. With all the fakes news floating around these days it hard to believe anything
 

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Deadly flu virus spreading through the air can be KILLED using special £700 UV lamps, study suggests amid the 'worst outbreak in seven years'
  • Continuous low doses of far ultraviolet C (far-UVC) light kills airborne flu viruses
  • And experts discovered the rays don't harm human tissues or cause skin cancer
  • The results may pave the way for overhead lamps to be installed in public spaces


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Tamiflu hitting record sales, yet it's making kids hallucinate and turn violent
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Parents across the country are reporting horrifying and deadly stories of their kids hallucinating and turning violent or suicidal after taking Tamiflu.

The 2017-2018 flu season is turning out to be one of the worst outbreaks in recent history. Already this year, the flu has claimed the lives of dozens of children and hospitalized countless others. In the midst of the turmoil and sickness, however, the medication to treat the flu-Tamiflu-is also reportedly claiming lives.

As this is one of the worst outbreaks, the makers of Tamiflu are seeing record sales. However, this is not good for the children whose parents are coming forward to expose the horrendous side effects caused by the medicine which-in some instances-have proven to be far worse than getting the flu.

Oseltamivir, the antiviral medication marketed as Tamiflu, is used to treat flu symptoms caused by influenza virus in patients who have had symptoms for less than 2 days. While there are plenty of common side-effects ranging from hives to difficulty breathing, some of the less common side effects have parents crying foul.

Some people using Tamiflu have had rare side effects of sudden confusion, delirium, hallucinations, unusual behavior, or self-injury. Adding to the ominous nature of these side-effects is the fact that these symptoms have occurred most often in children.

Last month, 16-year-old Charlie Harp was given Tamiflu, the entirely normal boy then took his own life hours later.

"Had I known this was an issue, I would've never given it to him," remarked Jackie Ray, Harp's aunt and guardian.

The parents of a six-year-old little girl gave their daughter Tamiflu and she began hallucinating, ran away, and then tried to kill herself by jumping out of a window.

"She was about to jump out the window when my wife came up and grabbed her," recalled the girl's father, who wanted to stay anonymous.

As KRBK reports, the Wallens say their 2-year-old son, Steven, was twitching, hallucinating, and slamming his head in pain after taking the medicine after being diagnosed with the flu.

"When I walked in the room I was greeted with him slapping me across the face, and then continually smacking his head into the pillow saying 'ouch, ouch, ouch,'" says Andrea Wallen, Steven's mother.

When they stopped giving him Tamiflu, the erratic behavior stopped.

"Tamiflu, like any medication, has potential side effects," Dr. Amy Edwards, a pediatric infectious disease specialist at University Hospitals Rainbow Babies and Children's Hospital explained to News 5 Cleveland.

Among them: "neuropsychiatric" side effects.

Because there are so many people now taking Tamiflu, the side-effects are skyrocketing. "We are seeing the side effects more this year than we've seen it in previous years, but that's just because the total number of kids taking the medication has gone up, not because there's something wrong with the medicine itself," cautioned Dr. Edwards.


However, while these dangerous side effects are rare, they are experienced by one to two percent of children. A one in fifty shot that your child may try to take their own life is a pretty big deal. Parents are now faced with the choice to medicate their kids to fight the flu virus or let them ride it out.

Doctors are urging parents to consider their options when their child has the flu, only recommending that high-risk children get the medicine and if they do take it, watch them closely.

"For the parents who are insisting that their kid get Tamiflu because of how scared they are about the pediatric deaths we've had, if your kid is not high risk, then you do need to think about the fact that this drug does come with side effects, and so we do not give it to every person that has influenza routinely," Dr. Edwards explained.

If your child has taken Tamiflu, experts are saying to take them to the hospital immediately if they experience any change in behavior.


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This is NOT the first time such reports have been associated with Tamiflu. Hard to tell what's worse...the flu or the Tamiflu.


Mrs. Alton and myself have both had this stuff this year. Many people we know have had it and we have heard many reports of it sweeping through our area. Definitely quite real, definitely quite debilitating. Bad, mean, nasty, horrible, ugly stuff it is. Mrs.Alton had it far worse than I did. She was down for about a week and I mean nearly bed-ridden and she is just now getting back up to full energy. This was 2 days before New Year's day when this stuff struck. My sister was out in Tulsa for a company training session and she and several of her "classmates" came down with this stuff. Bad enough the training session was suspended for a week. So, yeah, this stuff is sweeping far and wide across the country.
 

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Flu virus has killed THOUSANDS in just ONE week with the death toll set to rise and Tamiflu shortages being reported across the country
  • New CDC statistics show over 4,000 Americans died from the flu or pneumonia during the third week of January
  • The illnesses were responsible for 1 in 10 fatalities in the first week of February
  • The flu scare has caused a shortage of the preventative influenza drug, Tamiflu
  • 1 of every 13 doctor visits last week were for fever, cough and various other flu symptoms
  • February is the peak month for the sickness - while flu season typically starts up in December


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5379261/Shortage-Tamiflu-flu-kills-4-000-Americans-week.html#ixzz56tDXgcBW
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At church on Sunday, several older people were out with a bad strain of flu ... every one of them had had the vaccine.
 

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Flu virus has killed THOUSANDS in just ONE week with the death toll set to rise and Tamiflu shortages being reported across the country
  • New CDC statistics show over 4,000 Americans died from the flu or pneumonia during the third week of January
  • The illnesses were responsible for 1 in 10 fatalities in the first week of February
  • The flu scare has caused a shortage of the preventative influenza drug, Tamiflu
  • 1 of every 13 doctor visits last week were for fever, cough and various other flu symptoms
  • February is the peak month for the sickness - while flu season typically starts up in December


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Given that the press excels at sensationalism I'll hold off on jumping off a roof until we see how many people actually die from this tragic pandemic
 

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At church on Sunday, several older people were out with a bad strain of flu ... every one of them had had the vaccine.
If one has the flu one should stay home. Sometime during our history people actually were aware of that and practiced common sense. It's not rocket surgery!
 
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FLU SHOT ????? Are you suicidal ??? I really hope you are kidding.

My way to stay well includes:
Stay out of a movie theater
Don't visit your kids or grand kids, in school
Try to stay out of hospitals (damn, I'm in for surgery in the morning).
Stay out of airliners
Shop off hours
Don't take a flu shot
I'm with you T, The pharma cartel has been pimping flu shots forever. I've NEVER had a flu shot. I decline when offered at the dr office. I get the flu once every couple years ( i think it's the flu, because everyone's pissing and moaning about the 'flu') It amounts to feeling a bit off, maybe a bit queasy - nothing more. 2-3 days later, I'm back in the saddle again. Flu shots <pfffft>
 

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With the worst influenza outbreak across the United States in more than a decade, researchers are looking for new and innovative ways to protect against the flu.

The authors of a new study published by Nature Communications have detected signs of the influenza virus genome that can determine how it will spread. Through monitoring these features, scientists may be able to help prevent a flu outbreak.

A pandemic flu is caused by the genetic mixture of flu strains from different species, such as pigs and humans or birds and humans. Pandemic strains of the flu are more powerful, as they spread fast and make people sicker. A pandemic flu outbreak could result in millions of deaths across the United States, according to the authors.
Places where humans and animals live closely are often monitored for pandemic flu outbreaks.

Influenza virus’ genome is comprised of 8 pieces of RNA. If 2 or more strains of the flu interact within a cell, the RNA pieces from each strain mix, creating a new strain of the flu with genetic makeup from each parental strain, according to the authors.

“We think that two strains need to have similar features in their genome to reassort and make a new virus,” study author, Jacco Boon, PhD said in a press release. “We hope that in the future, this work will allow us to focus on certain strains of influenza virus and target our surveillance more narrowly so we have a better chance of identifying the next pandemic flu before it spreads.”

The study demonstrated that parts of the RNA genome in flu strains fold into specific 3D shapes that are essential for multiplication. The authors also noted that by mutating the 3D shape of the virus, they could inhibit reproduction. Mutations that did not affect the shape of the genome did not reduce multiplication.

With thousands of flu strains, those with very diverse 3D structures may not be able to genetically combine to form a new strain, according to the study.
These findings suggest that a better understanding of the flu may be able to prevent pandemic outbreaks like the one that is plaguing the United States.

“Right now we do surveillance on pretty much everything,” Dr. Boon said, “But if we know that the viruses from a certain species or a certain region just don’t have the right RNA features, then we can make surveilling them a lower priority. If we can focus our resources more effectively, we may be able to catch the next pandemic flu before it really gets going.”

For more information on the current flu season, check out this upcoming CE webinar for pharmacistsand pharmacy technicians.

Reference
ID’ing features of flu virus genome may help target surveillance for pandemic flu [news release]. St. Louis, MO. Washington University School of Medicine press office. Jan. 31, 2018. Accessed at: https://medicine.wustl.edu/news/idi...genome_help_target_surveillance_pandemic_flu/ Feb. 5, 2018.
 

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The Flu Is Killing 4,000 per week - Should You Be Staying Home?
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With the H3N2 variation of the Influenza Virus killing 4,000 per week, hospitalizing hundreds of thousands, and acting at pandemic levels, should you start thinking about when to stay home? When to call in sick from work, and how you and your family will react to a real biological threat?

There is no reason to panic at the level that the flu is at right now, but there is a reason to act cautiously. You should not be doing things that make you a statistic just like you should not be smoking if you don't want to be a statistic of lung disease or drinking and driving if you don't want to be a statistic of drunk driving car accidents.

What measures am I taking and how I boost my immune system to limit my exposure to the flu and to boost my ability to fight it off.

What are your thoughts and what are you doing to not get sick?
 

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What are your thoughts and what are you doing to not get sick?
I felt a flu coming on about ten days ago. Had the usual symptoms, run down, ached all over, headache, throat started to hurt, etc. Just knew what it was by the feel of it. I mixed up two shots of Makers Mark with a tablespoon of honey, a half teaspoon of ginger powder and the juice from half a lemon and sipped on it, till it was gone. Then, I took some alka seltzer plus severe flu and went to sleep and just stayed in bed till I felt better.
Several days later, I felt it trying to come at me again, so I just repeated the bourbon mixture and more AS Plus and sleep. I've been good since. I should also mention that I get all the protein and high quality fats I need in my diet, as well as vegetables, plus I supplement with a good VM capsule every day and probiotics. It works for me. I get a flu that actually sticks maybe once every five years.
 

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SoG, that is an old remedy that my parents taught me. Yes, it works, well !!!
 

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SoG, that is an old remedy that my parents taught me. Yes, it works, well !!!
No kidding? Same recipe? Do you add anything different?
 

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maybe it's just me, but isn't flu-maggedon an annual media event for last several years (at least)?

and in some years we get two maggedons!

 

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The flu is not a disaster. Just keep taking your vitamin C and D. If you feel flu symptoms, increase your C. NO. BIG. DEAL.
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“For protection on Halloween night, you must rub two grasshoppers together, if you see a cat crossing the road holding a Louis Vuitton monogrammed handbag—which, as everyone knows, is a sure sign of imminent danger. The protection-ritual called vaccination makes about as much sense, except there you have doctors, nurses, and drugstore loiterers injecting toxic chemicals, heavy metals, and multiple germs directly into the body.” (The Underground, Jon Rappoport)

I’ve posted these facts before. But this time, I’ll take them even further down the rabbit hole, to their logical and shocking conclusion.

The “flu season” is upon us, and the Centers for Disease Control urges all parents to act like good little robots and have the whole family jabbed with flu shots.

The usual warnings and predictions are trumpeted by the CDC and their compliant media connections.

The one persistent “fact” that is shoved across is: every year in the US, 36,000 people die of the flu. We’ve all read and heard that figure, over and over.

(Update: in the face of independent criticism, the CDC has rearranged its estimates. It now makes this softer and vaguer assessment: “Flu seasons are unpredictable and can be severe. Over a period of 30 years, between 1976 and 2006, estimates of flu-associated deaths in the United States range from a low of about 3,000 to a high of about 49,000 people.”)

Promoting death is necessary for the CDC. They need to convince the population that seasonal flu is dangerous. In order, of course, to push vaccines.

In December of 2005, the British Medical Journal (BMJ online) published a shocking report by Peter Doshi, which exposed a delusion and created tremors throughout the halls of the CDC.

Here is a quote from Doshi’s report — “Are US flu death figures more PR than science?”:

“[According to CDC statistics], ‘influenza and pneumonia’ took 62,034 lives in 2001—61,777 of which were attributable to pneumonia and 257 to flu, and in only 18 cases was the flu virus positively identified.”

Only 18.

You see, the CDC creates one category that combines flu and pneumonia deaths. Why do they do this? Because they (conveniently) assume that the pneumonia deaths are complications stemming from the flu.

This is an absurd assumption. Pneumonia has a number of causes. But even worse, in all the flu and pneumonia deaths, only 18 were traced directly to a flu virus.

Therefore, the CDC could not say, with assurance, that more than 18 people died of the flu in 2001.

Doshi continues his assessment of published CDC flu-death statistics: “Between 1979 and 2001, [CDC] data show an average of 1348 [flu] deaths per year (range 257 to 3006).”

However, Doshi is only reporting numbers of flu deaths estimated by the CDC in those years. As he showed from the year 2001, the CDC actually finds the flu virus in a tiny proportion of people who are estimated to have died from the flu.

But there is more.

Let’s take those 18 flu deaths in the US, in 2001, the only ones for which a flu virus was positively identified. What does “positively identified” mean?

It means the CDC, or a contracted lab, ran a test on blood samples from the 18 patients. Which test?

Answer: unknown.

However, judging from past CDC performance, there is a high likelihood that it was some kind of antibody test—in other words, an indirect procedure.

“Well, we found antibodies to a flu virus in the patient, so he must have contacted the virus. It must have been in his body.”

If the (error-prone) test was done perfectly, and if it didn’t show a positive result as a result of a cross-reaction with something other than the flu virus, then yes, the patient did contact the flu virus.

But that doesn’t mean the flu virus killed the patient. It doesn’t come close to meaning that. It doesn’t even mean the patient became ill from the virus.

In fact, until 1985, a positive antibody test was generally taken to mean the patient was in good shape; his immune system had successfully warded off the germ.

Then, suddenly, the science was turned on its head for no good reason: a positive antibody test became a bad sign. This shift allowed public health agencies to automatically inflate numbers of cases—and these agencies are always looking for ways to inflate case numbers.

To sum up: if, in 2001, the 18 US deaths from the flu had their blood tested by antibody assays, then you can shrink to ZERO the confirmed number of deaths by flu for the year.

What should have happened in 2001, and every year, is: flu virus is DIRECTLY extracted and isolated and IDed from flu patients—and then, on top of that, a titer test is run, which shows the concentration of flu virus in the patient.

Why? Because millions and millions of active virus, in the body, are necessary to even begin to say the virus is causing illness, much less death.

So far, I see no indication that such direct isolation and titer were routinely done by the CDC, in any flu year.

That means: no science; no verification, no way to say that X number of people, in any year, had flu disease or died from the flu.

That’s what it means.

And when I write about the invention of reality for the population, and how hard it is for many people to see through it, I’m not referring to the easy and obvious deceptions. I’m referring to deceptions on this scale.

Jon Rappoport

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/11/01/the-incredible-shrinking-flu-hoax/
 

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The great flu vaccine hoax: new evidence

Nov8by Jon Rappoport


The great flu vaccine hoax: new evidence

by Jon Rappoport

November 8, 2017

Apparently, the powers-that-be want everyone to take the seasonal flu vaccine out of loyalty and blind faith. Because actual science reveals the hoax.

A new study, published in the PLOS Journal on 10/23, by contributing authors from the Scripps Institute and the University of Pennsylvania, is titled: “A structural explanation for the low effectiveness of the seasonal influenza H3N2 vaccine.”

Oops. Low effectiveness? The public has been taught to believe the vaccine is quite effective.

Here is a key quote from the study: “It is common to use chicken eggs for culturing clinical isolates and for large-scale production of vaccines. However, influenza virus often mutates to adapt to being grown in chicken eggs, which can influence antigenicity and hence vaccine effectiveness.”

Translation: The virus in the vaccine mutates, in the chicken eggs, and therefore the patient’s immune system responds to the wrong version of the flu virus.

Here is another quote: “Our study describes a mechanism [that explains]…the low influenza vaccine effectiveness and reaffirms the urgency for replacing the egg-based production of influenza vaccines.”

It gets worse, far worse.

Here is evidence I have cited for several years now. It comes from a 2013 review:

Dr. Peter Doshi, writing in the online BMJ (British Medical Journal), reveals a monstrosity.

As Doshi states, every year, hundreds of thousands of respiratory samples are taken from flu patients in the US and tested in labs. Here is the kicker: only a small percentage of these samples show the presence of a flu virus.

This means: most of the people in America who are diagnosed by doctors with the flu have no flu virus in their bodies.

So they don’t have the flu.

Therefore, even if you assume the flu vaccine is useful and safe, it couldn’t possibly prevent all those “flu cases” that aren’t flu cases.

The vaccine couldn’t possibly work.

The vaccine isn’t designed to prevent fake flu, unless pigs can fly.

Here’s the exact quote from Peter Doshi’s BMJ review, “Influenza: marketing vaccines by marketing disease” (BMJ 2013; 346:f3037):

“…even the ideal influenza vaccine, matched perfectly to circulating strains of wild influenza and capable of stopping all influenza viruses, can only deal with a small part of the ‘flu’ problem because most ‘flu’ appears to have nothing to do with influenza. Every year, hundreds of thousands of respiratory specimens are tested across the US. Of those tested, on average 16% are found to be influenza positive.

“…It’s no wonder so many people feel that ‘flu shots’ don’t work: for most flus, they can’t.”

Because most diagnosed cases of the flu aren’t the flu.

So even if you’re a true believer in mainstream vaccine theory, you’re on the short end of the stick here. They’re conning your socks off.

There is much more to say about the ineffectiveness and danger of the flu vaccine, but I’ll leave it here for now.

The “experts” and their loyal parishioners, who are worshiping at the altar of the medical cartel, need to pick up their brains, which they checked at the door, and engage in a process called THINKING. I know it’s painful, but it’s very useful.


https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/11/08/the-great-flu-vaccine-hoax-new-evidence/
 

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From the WSJ...

H3N2: The deadly flu no one saw coming
Betsy McKay and Sarah Toy
The Wall Street Journal
Fri, 09 Feb 2018 16:25 UTC


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Thousands of people have been treated at hospitals, including seemingly healthy adults, marking the worst season in a decade

Heather Holland, a second-grade teacher, came home feeling a little sick on the last Monday in January.

"It just sounded like her throat was scratchy," said her husband, Frank Holland, a discomfort easy to ignore at first for a working mother. Over the next days, she made seemingly inconsequential decisions, including skipping a medicine because of the cost. Then her symptoms suddenly worsened, eventually sending Ms. Holland, 38 years old, to the hospital, on the brink of death.

Her battle was among the most severe fought during this influenza season, America's worst in a decade. It has taken the U.S. by surprise, pitting a weak flu vaccine against particularly virulent strains.

Most people recover within a few days from the aches, fever and cough as their immune systems drive out the infection. Thousands, however, have been treated this year at hospitals for pneumonia and other complications, including seemingly healthy adults with no underlying medical problems.

Rates of hospitalization are the highest since 2010, and the rate of reported flu illness is now as high as it was during the 2009 global flu pandemic, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Friday.


© Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
The percentage of all deaths in the U.S. from flu and pneumonia has risen to one of the highest levels in recent flu seasons. The flu kills between 12,000 and 56,000 people in the U.S. a year, according to the CDC, which estimates that this season's death toll will be at the upper range. The elderly are most at risk, along with young children.

"This is not the common cold," said Tim Uyeki, chief medical officer in the influenza division of the CDC.

Complications can arise when the body's immune system overreacts, triggering an exaggerated inflammatory response that can lead to viral pneumonia, organ damage or sepsis, a bloodstream infection, Dr. Uyeki said. Or, flu infection sometimes makes it easier for bacteria to invade the bloodstream, leading to a bacterial pneumonia that can also trigger sepsis, he said.

In both cases, people with the flu can quickly become critically ill, suffering a high fever or abnormally low temperatures and shortness of breath.

The dominant flu virus this year, an influenza A strain known as H3N2, is known for its severity, according to the CDC, but both the A and B strains have proven deadly in past weeks.

The vaccine this year isn't very effective-according to the CDC, as well as studies in other countries - but it can reduce the severity of the flu.

Karlie Slaven missed her flu shot this season, said her father, who is now urging others to get the vaccine.


Comment: A very bad idea.



Ms. Slaven had nursed her two children through the flu in mid-January. Then the 37-year-old administrator from Plainfield, Ind., caught the virus. A day after she was diagnosed with the flu, Ms. Slaven was short of breath and went to a hospital emergency room. X-rays showed no problems, said her father, Karl Illg. She got medication and went home.


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Karlie Illg Slaven and her family, of Hendricks County, Ind. She died last month after contracting the flu.
Her husband, Michael Slaven, who is in the National Guard, had to leave for a short deployment at 5 the next morning, Mr. Illg said. A couple of hours later, Ms. Slaven texted her father for help. "She really couldn't talk," he said.

He and his wife went to Ms. Slaven's house. His wife took Ms. Slaven to the emergency room, while Mr. Illg stayed with their 11-year-old grandson and 9-year-old granddaughter.

A couple of hours later, his wife called and told him to bring the children to the hospital. Ms. Slaven was in critical condition. Her husband was reached en route to his deployment and was headed back.

Mr. Illg said he was struck by how quickly his daughter had become gravely ill. Two days earlier, she had common flu symptoms. At the hospital, he said, she could barely flutter her eyelids.

Ms. Slaven died early the next morning, less than three days after learning she had the flu.

'We're pretty healthy'

Ms. Holland, the second-grade teacher, didn't think much of her symptoms that Monday night, Jan. 29, at home in Willow Park, Texas, just west of Fort Worth. She went to school Tuesday. By nighttime, though, she had a fever.

On Wednesday morning, Ms. Holland dropped her 10-year-old daughter and 7-year-old son at school and went to her doctor, said her husband, an environmental scientist for an engineering firm. By then, schools had closed in at least 11 states to try to arrest the spread of the virus, which accelerated after children returned to campuses from winter break, CDC officials said.

A rapid flu test came back positive for influenza B, Mr. Holland said. The doctor wrote Ms. Holland a prescription for oseltamivir phosphate, a generic form of the antiviral medication Tamiflu, which can reduce flu symptoms when started early in the course of the illness.


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Heather Holland of Willow Park, Texas, a second-grade teacher and mother of two.
Ms. Holland went to the pharmacy. She learned the antiviral medication would cost her $116 under the prescription-drug coverage she had as a teacher, and she refused it. They had the money, Mr. Holland said: "It's principle with her. She's a very frugal person in general, always has been."

After bringing their children home from church that night, Mr. Holland discovered his wife was taking Nyquil, he said. She told him she thought the price of the antiviral was ridiculous. He went to the pharmacy Thursday morning and got it filled himself. "I made her start taking it," he said.

Looking back, he said, he wished she and other teachers had better drug coverage, given their exposure.

Ms. Holland kept herself quarantined in the couple's bedroom. By Thursday evening, "she seemed like she was turning the corner," Mr. Holland said.

Still, when she came out of their room, he told her to go back and lie down. He made her some soup and slept on the couch.

Ms. Holland usually got a flu shot, but Mr. Holland couldn't remember whether she got one this season. The couple didn't go to doctors much. "Generally we're pretty healthy individuals," he said.

Their routine for the flu was conventional. "You take some Pedialyte, drink some Sprite, eat crackers and soup and in a few days it's better," he said.

Mr. Holland was due to leave on a planned trip Friday with clients to Kansas. He hesitated about leaving his wife. He took her temperature that morning. She still had a fever, but it was lower. She seemed to be recovering. "Normally you lay around for a few days," he said.

Ms. Holland, feeling better, urged him to go, he recalled. Still unsure, he checked with her one last time before leaving Friday morning.

The race home

On Friday night, Ms. Holland's fever spiked. She was nauseated and had diarrhea. Around 11 p.m., family members took her to the emergency room at Texas Health Southwest, a hospital in Fort Worth. She was admitted into the intensive-care unit.

Mr. Holland frantically searched the quickest way home. His boss drove him early Saturday to the airport, where Mr. Holland hoped to catch a 6:05 a.m. flight home. They arrived at 5:45 a.m., too late to board.

The next flight wasn't until that afternoon. The two men returned to the car and sped toward Fort Worth, Mr. Holland said, stopping only for gas.

The Hollands were high-school sweethearts. They dated for seven years while attending different colleges before getting married in July 2004.

Ms. Holland was a reader. "It was just book after book after book," her husband said. "It was God, her family and reading, basically in that order." She shared that passion with her students at Bose Ikard Elementary School, boys and girls she hugged and called her babies.

"She always said that's probably the only hug some of those kids will get that day," Mr. Holland said.

Arriving at the hospital around midday on Saturday, Mr. Holland went to his wife's bedside and told her he loved her. She said she loved him, too.

Doctors had hooked her up to equipment to help her breathe, Mr. Holland said, and gave her medication to help her rest.

On Saturday night, after blood tests showed she had sepsis, an extreme complication of infections, she was put on dialysis, Mr. Holland said. He and other family members rubbed her hands and feet to warm them. Her circulation, he said, "was going by the wayside."

Doctors told the family that Ms. Holland's recovery was looking unlikely. On Sunday morning, Mr. Holland called his mother to bring the couple's children.

Ms. Holland opened her eyes to look at her young boy and girl. "She'd hold them open as long as she could, then she'd close them, then open them again a little bit," he said. "That was her way of telling them goodbye."

She died soon after, on Feb. 4, six days after coming home from school with a scratchy throat.
 

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No kidding? Same recipe? Do you add anything different?
Dad did not have Makers Mark, he had Old Gran Dad Bourbon, & it was heated up like tea. Other than that it was IDENTICAL !!
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Dad did not have Makers Mark, he had Old Gran Dad Bourbon, & it was heated up like tea. Other than that it was IDENTICAL !!
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Cool. I never had old grandad bourbon. I got spoiled on Knob Creek and Makers Mark and so on. There's more expensive stuff, but it's just more expensive for the most part.
 

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The worst of the deadly flu season is over: CDC says US outbreak has 'definitely peaked' as illnesses decline - but beware of a second spike
  • Killer 2017-2018 flu season peaked in early February and has been falling since
  • Another 17 children died during the week ended February 24, bringing the toll up to 114 for the season
  • 32 states reported heavy flu-patient traffic last week, down from 43 a month ago
  • Numbers of deaths from the flu or pneumonia have fallen too
  • 'We have definitely peaked,' said Kristen Nordlund of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
  • The flu vaccine was considerably less effective this year than it has been in past seasons, particularly with the deadly H3N2 strain


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5455221/Worst-bad-US-flu-season-illnesses-decline.html#ixzz58gA2sxGA
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The worst of the deadly flu season is over: CDC says US outbreak has 'definitely peaked' as illnesses decline - but beware of a second spike
  • Killer 2017-2018 flu season peaked in early February and has been falling since
  • Another 17 children died during the week ended February 24, bringing the toll up to 114 for the season
  • 32 states reported heavy flu-patient traffic last week, down from 43 a month ago
  • Numbers of deaths from the flu or pneumonia have fallen too
  • 'We have definitely peaked,' said Kristen Nordlund of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
  • The flu vaccine was considerably less effective this year than it has been in past seasons, particularly with the deadly H3N2 strain


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5455221/Worst-bad-US-flu-season-illnesses-decline.html#ixzz58gA2sxGA
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I just love this kind of reporting. First the fart and then the burp.
 

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Why I believe a killer flu pandemic is lurking just beyond the corner - and it could kill 33 MILLION people in the first 200 days
  • Jonathan Quick is a medical doctor one of the world's top health professionals
  • He fears a major influenza outbreak could kill 300 million people in two years
  • Fortunately, he also has a possible solution...but will it be enough to save us all?


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5465241/Why-believe-killer-flu-pandemic-just-corner.html#ixzz58ynd87vZ
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Why I believe a killer flu pandemic is lurking just beyond the corner - and it could kill 33 MILLION people in the first 200 days
  • Jonathan Quick is a medical doctor one of the world's top health professionals
  • He fears a major influenza outbreak could kill 300 million people in two years
  • Fortunately, he also has a possible solution...but will it be enough to save us all?


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5465241/Why-believe-killer-flu-pandemic-just-corner.html#ixzz58ynd87vZ
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Oh look, they're pushing more vaccines! I'll say no thanks and take my chances.

The most important thing that humankind can do, however, is to develop a properly effective universal vaccine against flu viruses.

As a doctor, I know that nothing can protect people against illness as effectively as a vaccine. It is the single most cost-effective public health tool we have.