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Great Snags and WTF's???
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Never going to sell 'em on eBad;
Without placing then in capsules like all the others.
Include picture of both sides.
Offer at lower price, as Scottsdale is the seller right now, between $34-$42 bucks.
Look at the "sold" listings, left column option.
Just saying, as a seller and buyer of the world's purest silver ever minted.
You scored a gorgeous, massively undervalued, pile of .99999 SILVER. Bravo !
I got in from Royal Silver Co when they were selling and wish they continued.
However, after merger with other company, RSC has disappeared.
I can not find links after 2013.
Assuming copyright/patent etc. will run out by end of year and .99999 may return.
I'd buy all 7 from you @ $30 each and no, I'd not "flip" them.
This is the purest silver on the planet and will be sought... maybe ;-')
2010's and 2012's are far more rare, although mintages are not available.
Man ! don't they shine !
Without placing then in capsules like all the others.
Include picture of both sides.
Offer at lower price, as Scottsdale is the seller right now, between $34-$42 bucks.
Look at the "sold" listings, left column option.
Just saying, as a seller and buyer of the world's purest silver ever minted.
You scored a gorgeous, massively undervalued, pile of .99999 SILVER. Bravo !
I got in from Royal Silver Co when they were selling and wish they continued.
However, after merger with other company, RSC has disappeared.
I can not find links after 2013.
Assuming copyright/patent etc. will run out by end of year and .99999 may return.
I'd buy all 7 from you @ $30 each and no, I'd not "flip" them.
This is the purest silver on the planet and will be sought... maybe ;-')
2010's and 2012's are far more rare, although mintages are not available.
Man ! don't they shine !
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Yep, my favorite kind of investment. Just spoke to them and told them a friend recommended them to me and that I'm looking for a reputable vendor and wanted to check them out for product and services. At that point they backed off trying to pump up their 'special promotions on a much larger group of coins' and trying to get me to take advantage of these 'wonderful deals'. That should keep them at bay for about a week. 
Thanks for the recommendation Big Jim. Fractional gold coins at under spot and no upcharge for using a CC always makes my day!!
Thanks for the recommendation Big Jim. Fractional gold coins at under spot and no upcharge for using a CC always makes my day!!
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Yep, my favorite kind of investment. Just spoke to them and told them a friend recommended them to me and that I'm looking for a reputable vendor and wanted to check them out for product and services. At that point they backed off trying to pump up their 'special promotions on a much larger group of coins' and trying to get me to take advantage of these 'wonderful deals'. That should keep them at bay for about a week.
Thanks for the recommendation Big Jim. Fractional coins at under spot and no upcharge for using a CC always makes my day!!
Thanks for the recommendation Big Jim. Fractional coins at under spot and no upcharge for using a CC always makes my day!!
Wife unit just got back from vacation in Vietnam. Sent four 10 Toz bars of silver with her to cast some silver animals with. We wanted to test out their artistic capabilities and the possibility of casting several varieties of animals to sell in the US. I was trying for four ten ounce castings of; a horse, a dog, a pig and an ox. What she brought back was a 24½ Toz horse.
The model building and casting work was about $200.00 (Vietnamese dong to dollar conversion made the about part) so it was the 2½ 10 oz bars plus $200 for total cost. The leftover half of the bar they gave her spot for and the final bar she left with family for next visit. Total weight of this horse is 697 grams of 999 silver (not sterling).
We picked the horse to do first (my wife's chinese zodiac sign) to test out the work quality of the shop she found. Wifey wasn't specific enough when she gave the artist the photos of the horse to model and he created the wax model about 5 inches tall instead of small enough to cast at 10 oz. And the model is about half the price of the casting fee. So she made a command decision to go ahead and I wound up with one animal instead of four. Smaller ones next time.
Maybe not a great snag but the horse is beautiful. This is what silver is for.
BF
The model building and casting work was about $200.00 (Vietnamese dong to dollar conversion made the about part) so it was the 2½ 10 oz bars plus $200 for total cost. The leftover half of the bar they gave her spot for and the final bar she left with family for next visit. Total weight of this horse is 697 grams of 999 silver (not sterling).
We picked the horse to do first (my wife's chinese zodiac sign) to test out the work quality of the shop she found. Wifey wasn't specific enough when she gave the artist the photos of the horse to model and he created the wax model about 5 inches tall instead of small enough to cast at 10 oz. And the model is about half the price of the casting fee. So she made a command decision to go ahead and I wound up with one animal instead of four. Smaller ones next time.
Maybe not a great snag but the horse is beautiful. This is what silver is for.
BF
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Wife unit just got back from vacation in Vietnam. Sent four 10 Toz bars of silver with her to cast some silver animals with. We wanted to test out their artistic capabilities and the possibility of casting several varieties of animals to sell in the US. I was trying for four ten ounce castings of; a horse, a dog, a pig and an ox. What she brought back was a 25½ Toz horse.
The model building and casting work was about $200.00 (Vietnamese dong to dollar conversion made the about part) so it was the 2½ 10 oz bars plus $200 for total cost. The leftover half of the bar they gave her spot for and the final bar she left with family for next visit. Total weight of this horse is 697 grams of 999 silver (not sterling).
We picked the horse to do first (my wife's chinese zodiac sign) to test out the work quality of the shop she found. Wifey wasn't specific enough when she gave the artist the photos of the horse to model and he created the wax model about 5 inches tall instead of small enough to cast at 10 oz. And the model is about half the price of the casting fee. So she made a command decision to go ahead and I wound up with one animal instead of four. Smaller ones next time.
Maybe not a great snag but the horse is beautiful. This is what silver is for.
BF
The model building and casting work was about $200.00 (Vietnamese dong to dollar conversion made the about part) so it was the 2½ 10 oz bars plus $200 for total cost. The leftover half of the bar they gave her spot for and the final bar she left with family for next visit. Total weight of this horse is 697 grams of 999 silver (not sterling).
We picked the horse to do first (my wife's chinese zodiac sign) to test out the work quality of the shop she found. Wifey wasn't specific enough when she gave the artist the photos of the horse to model and he created the wax model about 5 inches tall instead of small enough to cast at 10 oz. And the model is about half the price of the casting fee. So she made a command decision to go ahead and I wound up with one animal instead of four. Smaller ones next time.
Maybe not a great snag but the horse is beautiful. This is what silver is for.
BF
I think I've mentioned before, that my wife is a chemist. She took the bars into a lab over there and got them XRF (X-ray fluorescence). Then she took the horse, when it was done, back to the same lab and had it XRF(ed). Lab analysis reports on both visits in my files. Same results on both.
Some time it pays to know how to do shit.
BF
Some time it pays to know how to do shit.
BF
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Wife unit just got back from vacation in Vietnam. Sent four 10 Toz bars of silver with her to cast some silver animals with. We wanted to test out their artistic capabilities and the possibility of casting several varieties of animals to sell in the US. I was trying for four ten ounce castings of; a horse, a dog, a pig and an ox. What she brought back was a 24½ Toz horse.
The model building and casting work was about $200.00 (Vietnamese dong to dollar conversion made the about part) so it was the 2½ 10 oz bars plus $200 for total cost. The leftover half of the bar they gave her spot for and the final bar she left with family for next visit. Total weight of this horse is 697 grams of 999 silver (not sterling).
We picked the horse to do first (my wife's chinese zodiac sign) to test out the work quality of the shop she found. Wifey wasn't specific enough when she gave the artist the photos of the horse to model and he created the wax model about 5 inches tall instead of small enough to cast at 10 oz. And the model is about half the price of the casting fee. So she made a command decision to go ahead and I wound up with one animal instead of four. Smaller ones next time.
Maybe not a great snag but the horse is beautiful. This is what silver is for.
BF
The model building and casting work was about $200.00 (Vietnamese dong to dollar conversion made the about part) so it was the 2½ 10 oz bars plus $200 for total cost. The leftover half of the bar they gave her spot for and the final bar she left with family for next visit. Total weight of this horse is 697 grams of 999 silver (not sterling).
We picked the horse to do first (my wife's chinese zodiac sign) to test out the work quality of the shop she found. Wifey wasn't specific enough when she gave the artist the photos of the horse to model and he created the wax model about 5 inches tall instead of small enough to cast at 10 oz. And the model is about half the price of the casting fee. So she made a command decision to go ahead and I wound up with one animal instead of four. Smaller ones next time.
Maybe not a great snag but the horse is beautiful. This is what silver is for.
BF
It makes me think about other things one could have made. A silver turtle could be pretty cool.
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Here's a post about my experience with Nationwide:
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Wanted to give an update. Truly one of the sleaziest companies I've dealt with. First I called, politely listened to the upsell of super-overpriced products and said "let's start with this and see how that goes"....placed an order
Noticed no charge on my CC after a couple days so called back. No record of my order or call or any of my contact informationof course. So I said whatever, the let's do it again. Placed order a second time.
Again no charge on my CC. Called back and asked for a supervisor. Was told someone with the same name had already ordered from a state I have never lived in or known anyone, and thus "I was taking advantage of them" and their "one-time offer". I corrected them and then the "supervisor" started whistling a different tune saying I had called on a phone number that had already ordered before. I asked who ordered and got some weird generic name and a phone number that I never heard of and definitely hadn't used, and I asked what the address was and it was an address on the other side of the country. I called BS and said I'm going to report you to the BBB if you don't put my order through (saw that the BBB scares them somewhere online). The supervisor refused to place my order so I asked to be transferred to the compliance officer that is listed on their website. The guy refused and hung up. So I call back 10 seconds later and my number has been blocked! The speed with which they blocked my number was amazing. I mean most companies wouldn't be able to block a number without going through some IT department or researching or whatever, but it seems like they're so used to ripping people off and having complaints that every sales guy has the ability to block instantly at his desk for the entire company (which should be a red flag to say the least).
Anyway called the compliance guy on a different line and told him I was going to contact the BBB if my order wasn't put through. He starts telling me how they couldn't do the order because my phone wasn't a "landline" and I said well no other company has a problem billing me and placing orders with a non-land line. Then he said the other problem is you are using a google voice number and I said yes I use that because I have all my calls forwarded to wherever I am (work, home, car, etc). He said we can only do this if you call back on a real cell number or land line. I said I can do that but I don't answer or use my real cell number so it isn't going to be of any use to you. He said that's fine, we just need a real phone number. So I called back on my cell number. He then said ok we can place the order. Again they have to take all my info and have "no record of me in the system".
Another day passes, no charge on my credit card. I think ok I'll call in the morning. I call again, and the complaince guy says yea the reason you haven't been charges is we looked into it again and you've ordered before and then he hangs up. I then check my credit card and notice that there was a charge put in overnight that I hadn't checked and seen. So rather than call back I just say ok let me see what happens.
Two weeks later the coins arrived. I also got a voicemail on the number I never use from a sleazy sales guy telling me "we noticed your coins are being delivered today. call us when you get them."
Of course I wouldn't call that company again or do business with them if my life depended on it. I noticed I got a few more calls form them within the next few months (didn't see them until later as I don't use that number as I told them).
tldr: Got the coins but sleazy company took a dozen phone calls, multiple orderings, and being blocked to get anything.
If you have 4-5 hours to waste then I recommend. Coins seem as described and were $150 under spot. so depends on what your time is worth to you.
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Wanted to give an update. Truly one of the sleaziest companies I've dealt with. First I called, politely listened to the upsell of super-overpriced products and said "let's start with this and see how that goes"....placed an order
Noticed no charge on my CC after a couple days so called back. No record of my order or call or any of my contact informationof course. So I said whatever, the let's do it again. Placed order a second time.
Again no charge on my CC. Called back and asked for a supervisor. Was told someone with the same name had already ordered from a state I have never lived in or known anyone, and thus "I was taking advantage of them" and their "one-time offer". I corrected them and then the "supervisor" started whistling a different tune saying I had called on a phone number that had already ordered before. I asked who ordered and got some weird generic name and a phone number that I never heard of and definitely hadn't used, and I asked what the address was and it was an address on the other side of the country. I called BS and said I'm going to report you to the BBB if you don't put my order through (saw that the BBB scares them somewhere online). The supervisor refused to place my order so I asked to be transferred to the compliance officer that is listed on their website. The guy refused and hung up. So I call back 10 seconds later and my number has been blocked! The speed with which they blocked my number was amazing. I mean most companies wouldn't be able to block a number without going through some IT department or researching or whatever, but it seems like they're so used to ripping people off and having complaints that every sales guy has the ability to block instantly at his desk for the entire company (which should be a red flag to say the least).
Anyway called the compliance guy on a different line and told him I was going to contact the BBB if my order wasn't put through. He starts telling me how they couldn't do the order because my phone wasn't a "landline" and I said well no other company has a problem billing me and placing orders with a non-land line. Then he said the other problem is you are using a google voice number and I said yes I use that because I have all my calls forwarded to wherever I am (work, home, car, etc). He said we can only do this if you call back on a real cell number or land line. I said I can do that but I don't answer or use my real cell number so it isn't going to be of any use to you. He said that's fine, we just need a real phone number. So I called back on my cell number. He then said ok we can place the order. Again they have to take all my info and have "no record of me in the system".
Another day passes, no charge on my credit card. I think ok I'll call in the morning. I call again, and the complaince guy says yea the reason you haven't been charges is we looked into it again and you've ordered before and then he hangs up. I then check my credit card and notice that there was a charge put in overnight that I hadn't checked and seen. So rather than call back I just say ok let me see what happens.
Two weeks later the coins arrived. I also got a voicemail on the number I never use from a sleazy sales guy telling me "we noticed your coins are being delivered today. call us when you get them."
Of course I wouldn't call that company again or do business with them if my life depended on it. I noticed I got a few more calls form them within the next few months (didn't see them until later as I don't use that number as I told them).
tldr: Got the coins but sleazy company took a dozen phone calls, multiple orderings, and being blocked to get anything.
If you have 4-5 hours to waste then I recommend. Coins seem as described and were $150 under spot. so depends on what your time is worth to you.
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Wife unit just got back from vacation in Vietnam. Sent four 10 Toz bars of silver with her to cast some silver animals with. We wanted to test out their artistic capabilities and the possibility of casting several varieties of animals to sell in the US. I was trying for four ten ounce castings of; a horse, a dog, a pig and an ox. What she brought back was a 24½ Toz horse.
The model building and casting work was about $200.00 (Vietnamese dong to dollar conversion made the about part) so it was the 2½ 10 oz bars plus $200 for total cost. The leftover half of the bar they gave her spot for and the final bar she left with family for next visit. Total weight of this horse is 697 grams of 999 silver (not sterling).
We picked the horse to do first (my wife's chinese zodiac sign) to test out the work quality of the shop she found. Wifey wasn't specific enough when she gave the artist the photos of the horse to model and he created the wax model about 5 inches tall instead of small enough to cast at 10 oz. And the model is about half the price of the casting fee. So she made a command decision to go ahead and I wound up with one animal instead of four. Smaller ones next time.
Maybe not a great snag but the horse is beautiful. This is what silver is for.
BF
The model building and casting work was about $200.00 (Vietnamese dong to dollar conversion made the about part) so it was the 2½ 10 oz bars plus $200 for total cost. The leftover half of the bar they gave her spot for and the final bar she left with family for next visit. Total weight of this horse is 697 grams of 999 silver (not sterling).
We picked the horse to do first (my wife's chinese zodiac sign) to test out the work quality of the shop she found. Wifey wasn't specific enough when she gave the artist the photos of the horse to model and he created the wax model about 5 inches tall instead of small enough to cast at 10 oz. And the model is about half the price of the casting fee. So she made a command decision to go ahead and I wound up with one animal instead of four. Smaller ones next time.
Maybe not a great snag but the horse is beautiful. This is what silver is for.
BF
A new "horse's head" in the making????? A white copper horse's head??? Hmmm.......Any photoshop experts here could have a field day with this.
A new "horse's head" in the making????? A white copper horse's head??? Hmmm.......Any photoshop experts here could have a field day with this.
And photoshoping? I will accept that challenge if it is one.
BF
Jose, your post somewhat puzzles me. "A white copper horse's head??" — I don't exactly know how to respond but rest assured that my silver horse is very close to 100% silver.
And photoshoping? I will accept that challenge if it is one.
BF
And photoshoping? I will accept that challenge if it is one.
BF
"white copper" = silver. White copper is just another name for silver. For me personally, I just call silver a DOG.