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Had a chat with the BATF lady on the phone

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Maybe some of you are aware of this but it was news to me.

If you want to sell a gun to a person in another state and one of both do not allow private sales, I always thought that all you had to do was involve a gun dealer to do a background check for the transfer and it was good. Here is the catch, ONLY dealers can sell and transfer as such, you cannot. So if you hand the dealer the gun for the paper work guess what? You just surrendered the fire arm to the dealer and he does not have to give it back to you because he has the right to make sure you are not going to sell to the other party you met at the dealers place of business. You could hold the firearm and not surrender it and have dealer just take the info and run it but then it's really a private sale background check or not and that is not allowed.

Nice how they have intertwined the laws to catch it all. You can't even transfer between family members across state lines.
 
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Maybe some of you are aware of this but it was news to me.

If you want to sell a gun to a person in another state and one of both do not allow private sales, I always thought that all you had to do was involve a gun dealer to do a background check for the transfer and it was good. Here is the catch, ONLY dealers can sell and transfer as such, you cannot. So if you hand the dealer the gun for the paper work guess what? You just surrendered the fire arm to the dealer and he does not have to give it back to you because he has the right to make sure you are not going to sell to the other party you met at the dealers place of business. You could hold the firearm and not surrender it and have dealer just take the info and run it but then it's really a private sale background check or not and that is not allowed.

Nice how they have intertwined the laws to catch it all. You can't even transfer between family members across state lines.
You know what never stopped me? Laws. Bill of sale without the date is still a bill of sale.
 

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Cash

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wading through the sea
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Bill of sale without the date is still a bill of sale.
Really, micheal? I thought the date was important to validate the document.

BF
PS: just to add, Bottom Feeder here don't be breakin any of the rules the king imposes on us peasants.
 

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The gov't has long since adjusted the meaning of the words in the English language.

The word "infringe" has practically lost all its' meaning already.
 

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The gov't has long since adjusted the meaning of the words in the English language.

The word "infringe" has practically lost all its' meaning already.
That's another discussion entirely sir!
 

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Don't answer, who here owns unregistered / unlicensed weapons?

LOL

yeah right
 

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the part i really enjoyed was the part where i couldn't make a weapon and sell it...didn't see anything about Not Using It



all i'm saying is, nothing of mine exists unless i say it exists or i bother to show it off to others
i'm not saying violate anything, but, as an American Citizen, I do feel it necessary to ask:

Who the f made anyone in DC one of my parents?

i'm a big boy who follows what's necessary, that's my call



i'm only too afraid it's getting too easy to be caught while Using my weapons and until then
I Don't Own Any Weapons or PM's or anything else, I'm poor and will probably always remain that way
Thanks to My Leaders, I'm Poor, Taxed Into Poverty


All my stories here are Fables and outright Lies and the names have been changed to protect the guilty
 

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(full auto capability, even a little bit, is a violation of the NFA and gets you in big doodoo with the Feds)
So a gun can be a little bit full auto? Is that kinda like being a little bit pregnant?
 

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First rule is every gun seller or buyer is an AFT agent. Rules Number two, the hit man you are trying to hire is a police department.
LOL
good advice and might i add:
Four Leaf Clovers are Lucky
 

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First rule is every gun seller or buyer is an AFT agent. Rules Number two, the hit man you are trying to hire is a police department.
Don't hire hitmen nor deal illegally in guns, and you should be alright then.
 

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Ok, so it is in fact possible to be a little bit full auto. Thanks for the expert advice @the_shootist !
 

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For some reason I can't meet a buyer in another state to sell a gun with a dealer run background check but I can mail it as part of a gun broker sale. Can any FFL sort out the logic in that?
I
 

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First rule in gun sale is no one talks about gun sale
second rule in gun sale is no one talks about gun sale

friends and family that is
 

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I lost all mine in a tragic boating accident...sad!
Fortunately my wife captured the event on her iPhone as proof!!

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