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It seems like any time the spot price jumps, APMEX starts a sale on silver shot, hand-me down melt buckets and Werewolf Caliber ammunition...
Decent prices on rounds, but I've had issues in the past trying to offload some of their stranger items.

Ok, I'll bite. What's a Silver Secondary Market Melt Bucket?

What's the resale on your average bucket?
If I were to bring my melt bucket into the local coin dealer, swing it over my head three times and slam it on the counter, what would he offer me?

Not sure what "Silver Secondary Market Melt Bucket" is, but I'm guessing its 999 silbur coins, rounds, bars etc. that are in terrible condition. If APMEX doesn't sell them to silbur stackers/suckers, they will go to a refinery and receive 90-95% of spot for that stuff...
 

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Here's a good deal for somebody.
But as usual, there's a catch. Do you live anywhere near Envigado, Colombia? (Local pickup only)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Dollar-1988/293934329032?hash=item446fd9ecc8:g:1BAAAOSwYr1f7TiS

$100 bill for $95
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I'm not sure, but I think this may be a scam....

https://www.coinshx.com/1-Ounce-Eagle-Brilliant-Uncirculated-p1447840.html
1-Ounce Eagle Brilliant Uncirculated
US$ 9.99

Limited stock, Only a small amount of stock left., if you want, please buy it!
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  • Delivery time: Worldwide 20-30 days
  • Full refund within 30 days without reason
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    It’s a rare price because of the exquisite workmanship
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Year: 2006-2020
Air tite size: 40mm
Coin value: Collection
Condition: Brilliant Uncirculated
Availability: In Stock

They've also got one ounce gold maple leafs for $16.99 (seems like the much better "deal" to me)
 

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I'm not sure, but I think this may be a scam....

https://www.coinshx.com/1-Ounce-Eagle-Brilliant-Uncirculated-p1447840.html
1-Ounce Eagle Brilliant Uncirculated
US$ 9.99

Limited stock, Only a small amount of stock left., if you want, please buy it!
  • Over $49.99 Free Shipping.
  • ONLY $9.98 !!Last 24 hours!
  • Delivery time: Worldwide 20-30 days
  • Full refund within 30 days without reason
  • Payments Via PayPal® and CreditCard.
  • ac7048340564940b01ac2bf8a6dbcd02_1f339.svg
    It’s a rare price because of the exquisite workmanship
    ac7048340564940b01ac2bf8a6dbcd02_1f339.svg
382e2062a7ed76b89f298dc68ff5d9d4_39_e9e08f42-2b66-4bb8-ab43-b0340b5ff2ef_480x480.png

Year: 2006-2020
Air tite size: 40mm
Coin value: Collection
Condition: Brilliant Uncirculated
Availability: In Stock

They've also got one ounce gold maple leafs for $16.99 (seems like the much better "deal" to me)

With everything going on with GameStop and now the r/wallstreetbets crowd eyeing SLV then yes, I would have to say scam or dumb ass stupid.
 

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I don't know how they get away with straight up advertising this crap. I guess there's zero fear of prosecution.
 

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I don't know how they get away with straight up advertising this crap. I guess there's zero fear of prosecution.

Probably connected to someone in the current administration. Seems like the rules don’t apply
 

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Not sure what "Silver Secondary Market Melt Bucket" is, but I'm guessing its 999 silbur coins, rounds, bars etc. that are in terrible condition. If APMEX doesn't sell them to silbur stackers/suckers, they will go to a refinery and receive 90-95% of spot for that stuff...
Ive bought them on sale differnt brokers, just not fresh from mint, never got no trash, was hoping for 70s and old bars but in buying over 500 oz here and there it was all new stuff
 

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that's something different, how many chinese fakes will pass through unknowing hands?

:green tea:
 

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Dang almost 5 bucks over for door stops.
Spot price is increasingly irrelevant. It is, imo, a mistake to let it prevent you from stacking in here. Physical is properly priced around 31.75 presently. Never have I seen such a justifiable and ongoing divergence between physical and the increasingly irrelevant spot prices of monetary metals. Took me a bit to get over that hump too...but I don't think premiums are coming back down anytime soon...particularly given the unprecedented premium hikes on good delivery bars.

Also those door stops seem a poor choice, given the compression of premiums. 32.86 / ounce currently while the very same site has a special going for 33.06 on 2021 Ag krugs. Seems a no-brainer to me, but YMMV.

Listed buy back BTW is a whopping .9 higher on the 1oz bambi coins. Easy decision.

https://www.providentmetals.com/2021-south-african-krugerrand-1-oz-silver-coin.html

Edit: Paper silver just failed to break through 28...we may tumble hard here.
 

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Spot price is increasingly irrelevant. It is, imo, a mistake to let it prevent you from stacking in here. Physical is properly priced around 31.75 presently. Never have I seen such a justifiable and ongoing divergence between physical and the increasingly irrelevant spot prices of monetary metals. Took me a bit to get over that hump too...but I don't think premiums are coming back down anytime soon...particularly given the unprecedented premium hikes on good delivery bars.

Also those door stops seem a poor choice, given the compression of premiums. 32.86 / ounce currently while the very same site has a special going for 33.06 on 2021 Ag krugs. Seems a no-brainer to me, but YMMV.

Listed buy back BTW is a whopping .9 higher on the 1oz bambi coins. Easy decision.

https://www.providentmetals.com/2021-south-african-krugerrand-1-oz-silver-coin.html

Edit: Paper silver just failed to break through 28...we may tumble hard here.
Yep, The TBTF Banking Crooks can control every aspect of the paper not so much with the physical.
 

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Yep, The TBTF Banking Crooks can control every aspect of the paper not so much with the physical.
It shall be their undoing. Just as it was in the palladium market.

Someday, many years hence, people may well sit around discussing Eric Sprott as the tip of the silver spear that ultimately pierced the hearts of the bankster commodity money market rigging vampire squids.
 

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My thoughts on paper versus physical silver:

Buy the physical according to market dynamics of the coins on which silver is minted. Buy paper silver according to market dynamics of silver itself.

The two dynamics do not always move together.

Example:

About one month ago, 2021 silver eagles were still reasonably priced at $4.75 over spot. Today they are priced at $12.27 over spot. I bought two rolls at $4.75 over spot at the time, and I wasn't concerned about silver price movement.

Today, I would be out of my mind to buy more 2021 eagles at this price, but I might decide to buy or sell paper silver in reaction to today's silver market.

I would also be out of my mind to buy generic silver today at $4.75 over spot an ounce, because I know there is no possibility of selling them for the same price as a 2021 silver eagle.
 

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Buy paper silver according to market dynamics of silver itself.
But one is not getting "dynamics" in paper silver one is getting manipulation.
 

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But one is not getting "dynamics" in paper silver one is getting manipulation.
some of the dynamics happen when you show up at your LCS and find out their cupboards are bare...
 

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some of the dynamics happen when you show up at your LCS and find out their cupboards are bare...
Just got back from my fave LCS. He had exactly one thing of interest to me, and then only because he calls me the second he gets any platinum in stock. Stacking 1994 koalas for 75 over seems a no brainer at this point. Aside from that all he has is overpriced US mint inventory. Overpriced...debased gold eagles, and a few beautiful, but horribly overpriced silver eagles. Hard pass, and I long since cleaned him out of anything triple 9 Ag with reasonable price tags.
About one month ago, 2021 silver eagles were still reasonably priced at $4.75 over spot.
They used to be regularly .99 to 1.99 over spot. I haven't stacked any in years. The US mint is too greedy and even then they run at a fraction of capacity. They could sell 4x as many silver eagles and gold buffalos if they'd just mint the damn things...as demanded by US law. They don't give a crap. The US mint is seemingly run by lazy lawless greedy imbeciles.
 

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Just got back from my fave LCS. He had exactly one thing of interest to me, and then only because he calls me the second he gets any platinum in stock. Stacking 1994 koalas for 75 over seems a no brainer at this point. Aside from that all he has is overpriced US mint inventory. Overpriced...debased gold eagles, and a few beautiful, but horribly overpriced silver eagles. Hard pass, and I long since cleaned him out of anything triple 9 Ag with reasonable price tags.

They used to be regularly .99 to 1.99 over spot. I haven't stacked any in years. The US mint is too greedy and even then they run at a fraction of capacity. They could sell 4x as many silver eagles and gold buffalos if they'd just mint the damn things...as demanded by US law. They don't give a crap. The US mint is seemingly run by lazy lawless greedy imbeciles.

They are greedy, but in a patriotic sense.

Recently, the director of the Mint said that the Mint is a unique entity in that it is self funded, but all profits go to the US Treasury.

So they are like a for-profit company with the balance sheet of a non-profit organization.

By the way, I also like that platinum Koalas are underpriced in the coin market now. I bought a few proof ones a few weeks ago at reasonable prices.
 

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Pity their patriotism doesn't extend to following US law. They'd stack a whole lot more $$$ if they'd drop the ridiculous premiums on silver eagles and stamp out 5x as many. Then cut gold eagle production by 100% ...or better yet change it to .999 fine and quadruple production. The gold eagle really pisses me off. With the possible exception of the front of the Libertad, It's the single most beautiful sovereign gold coin in the world(IMO), and the shitheads at the US mint stamp it out of 94% electrum and a 1/20th Cu? Then they actually have the audacity to charge premiums > than other sovereign's four 9 coins. What the hell? Whoever's running that shit show should be forced to work for a living in the private sector.
 

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Well our rulers are at any rate. Don't YOU get any ideas Buck ...unless you have some elite connections. You so much as step out of line...THIS MUCH...and our ruler's corporate security will kidnap you and stuff you in a rape cage bruh. ...and, be advised...I spent bail fiat on commodity money.

Sorry?
 

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When I was in my 20s, Antique stores started popping up everywhere. Everywhere you'd go, there was an antique mall popping up - there was a huge demand for them.

Since then, that demand has all but dried up and these things once deemed valuable are now sitting and collecting dust. It seems that these items of arguably great worth have no value to the younger generations.

I have the same concern with PMs (not that I actually own any, mind you) - things once deemed valuable won't have any value in the future for various geopolitical and cultural reasons.
 

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When I was in my 20s, Antique stores started popping up everywhere. Everywhere you'd go, there was an antique mall popping up - there was a huge demand for them.

Since then, that demand has all but dried up and these things once deemed valuable are now sitting and collecting dust. It seems that these items of arguably great worth have no value to the younger generations.

I have the same concern with PMs (not that I actually own any, mind you) - things once deemed valuable won't have any value in the future for various geopolitical and cultural reasons.

I am afraid that you are confusing raw materials (PMs) with finished products (antiques).

PMs are not only commodities, but they also represent elements in the periodic table. This means that they have special chemical and physical properties unique to themselves. As technology advances, people in the future will find more ways to utilize the special properties of each element.

We already see this today with palladium, and it may start happening for other PMs as well.
 

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I am afraid that you are confusing raw materials (PMs) with finished products (antiques).

PMs are not only commodities, but they also represent elements in the periodic table. This means that they have special chemical and physical properties unique to themselves. As technology advances, people in the future will find more ways to utilize the special properties of each element.

We already see this today with palladium, and it may start happening for other PMs as well.
Not confusing anything at all. Just making a point that nothing has value unless somebody else wants to exchange services or goods for it. Today's youth (the potential PM buyers of tomorrow...or not) are married to technology and convenience...not carrying a pocket full of silver coins, burying them in field next to a big tree, or stacking.
 

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Not confusing anything at all. Just making a point that nothing has value unless somebody else wants to exchange services or goods for it. Today's youth (the potential PM buyers of tomorrow...or not) are married to technology and convenience...not carrying a pocket full of silver coins, burying them in field next to a big tree, or stacking.

They are even less interested in stacking palladium, but look at where the price of palladium has gone in recent years.

We are only in the beginning of the 21st century. Silver coins were minted way back in the Roman times and earlier, but now the wonders of silver as a unique metal are being discovered by scientists and engineers.

If you are interested in technology and the future, this is one of the most fundamental areas of research that progress is made.
 

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Thread drift much?
 

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these are kinda cool and reasonably priced. The only downside with Scottsdale is their 4-6 week wait time (warning: lots of gold porn pictures below)

https://www.scottsdalemint.com/product/scottsdale-gold-lion-1-oz-9999-gold-cast-bar/

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  1. Scottsdale Gold Lion 1 oz Cast Bar
.9999 Pure Gold
AVAILABLE TO ORDER
$6.50 FLAT RATE SHIPPING
$500+ SHIPS FREE
– 1 Troy Ounce | 9999 Fine Gold
– Quality: Hand Poured, Hand Stamped
– Dimensions: 17mm x 17mm
– Individually Serialized
PRICE:
$1,779.08

QUANTITY
CREDIT CARD/PAYPAL
WIRE/ECHECK
1-4
$1,832.45
$1,779.08
5-9
$1,829.88
$1,776.58
10+
$1,827.30
$1,774.08
 
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these are kinda cool and reasonably priced. The only downside with Scottsdale is their 4-6 week wait time (lots of gold porn pictures)

https://www.scottsdalemint.com/product/scottsdale-gold-lion-1-oz-9999-gold-cast-bar/

2021-Lion-1-oz-Gold-Bar-Web_0000_2021-Lion-1-oz-Gold-Bar-2.png







  1. Scottsdale Gold Lion 1 oz Cast Bar
.9999 Pure Gold
AVAILABLE TO ORDER
$6.50 FLAT RATE SHIPPING
$500+ SHIPS FREE
– 1 Troy Ounce | 9999 Fine Gold
– Quality: Hand Poured, Hand Stamped
– Dimensions: 17mm x 17mm
– Individually Serialized
PRICE:
$1,779.08

QUANTITY
CREDIT CARD/PAYPAL
WIRE/ECHECK
1-4
$1,832.45
$1,779.08
5-9
$1,829.88
$1,776.58
10+
$1,827.30
$1,774.08
I like that...a lot.
 

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