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I have a herniated T7 disc, pressing on nerves that go to abdomen, pain is like torture, anyone have any sucess in treatment of this, Im taking shark cartilag and liquid calcium now.
 

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I have a herniated T7 disc, pressing on nerves that go to abdomen, pain is like torture, anyone have any sucess in treatment of this, Im taking shark cartilag and liquid calcium now.

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You ought to read about mangesium & D3 at the links above if your consuming calcium... supplemental calcium usually requires supplemental magnesium, the magnesium allows the calcium to be absorbed into the bones & cells, it is hypothesized that calcium without proper magnesium ends up as blockages (artherosclerosis) in the arteries. DYODD
 

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Mother in law ...has had sucess with steroid injections on about a 3 month basis.....tested her for a nerve block but she was not a canidate for that...trying gabapentin for occasional ussage ....so far steroids have produced the best results by far
 

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Mother in law ...has had sucess with steroid injections on about a 3 month basis.....tested her for a nerve block but she was not a canidate for that...trying gabapentin for occasional ussage ....so far steroids have produced the best results by far
I was hospitalized last month for pain it was so bad, thought it was heart attack too they put me on gabapentin 100 2x and now 200 2x, took the edge off but still in pain about daily, going to see pain doc who diagnosed it in hospital next week, im expecting hes going to bring up steroid injections.
 

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Nearly Everyone has Signs of Magnesium Deficiency But They Don't Know It...

https://www.easy-immune-health.com/signs-of-magnesium-deficiency.html

What's The RIGHT Magnesium DosageFor Optimal Health?

https://www.easy-immune-health.com/magnesium-dosage.html

You ought to read about mangesium & D3 at the links above if your consuming calcium... supplemental calcium usually requires supplemental magnesium, the magnesium allows the calcium to be absorbed into the bones & cells, it is hypothesized that calcium without proper magnesium ends up as blockages (artherosclerosis) in the arteries. DYODD
Will defintetly look into that, had an attack in 06 dont need or want another , plus have pacmaker and defibrillator now
 

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I use an inversion table to decompress the spine.

Not sure it will work for everyone, but it seems to for me.

If I sit too long in a hard chair (skinny butt, what can I say) my right side cramps up. If I invert I feel the lumbar vertebrae relax and kind of 'pop' like knuckles and then I'm good to go for the rest of the day.

Big 5 sports has them for $99

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Have you tried eating beef marrow bone yet? It helps me tremendously whenever I have any kind of joint pain. It's not just symptomatic relief either. images.jpg
 
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I have a herniated disk in the lower lumbar area (L5). Rest is the only thing that works for me. Injections and Physical Therapy didn’t do squat.
 

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Probably already did this and it sounds like you might be beyond this kind of treatment. Seek out a chiropractor with a drop table. The drop table is new school, no twisting and popping. When I first developed sciatica, the drop table was a godsend. My entire spine is trashed now ergo, I’m past chiropractors for the most part.
 

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I use an inversion table to decompress the spine.

Not sure it will work for everyone, but it seems to for me.

If I sit too long in a hard chair (skinny butt, what can I say) my right side cramps up. If I invert I feel the lumbar vertebrae relax and kind of 'pop' like knuckles and then I'm good to go for the rest of the day.

Big 5 sports has them for $99

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Can you use it heads up or do you have to have head down , dont like the idea of the blood rushing to my head
 

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Probably already did this and it sounds like you might be beyond this kind of treatment. Seek out a chiropractor with a drop table. The drop table is new school, no twisting and popping. When I first developed sciatica, the drop table was a godsend. My entire spine is trashed now ergo, I’m past chiropractors for the most part.
Tried it no help
 

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I have a herniated T7 disc, pressing on nerves that go to abdomen, pain is like torture, anyone have any sucess in treatment of this, Im taking shark cartilag and liquid calcium now.
Get one of those Johnson's.
 

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Got the gabapentin up to 200 3x daily, keeping pain at bay for most part
 

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When I had a bulging disc I took a supplement called celadrin. It’s an anti-inflammatory. Worked wonders. HOWEVER just like with the injections you have to realize you’re still hurt, and so be very careful that you lost it heal properly and don’t make it worse. Proper PT to teach you methods to cope with it and do everyday tasks easier and to stretch/strengthen muscles also did wonders for me. Mine was all lumbar though so not sure how much of all this translates.
 

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I use an inversion table to decompress the spine.
Can you use it heads up or do you have to have head down , dont like the idea of the blood rushing to my head
If it could be used heads up, you wouldn't be inverted when using it. The whole point of it is to let gravity stretch you back out.


Have you been using a heating pad on it?
 

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If it could be used heads up, you wouldn't be inverted when using it. The whole point of it is to let gravity stretch you back out.


Have you been using a heating pad on it?
Was using heat, therapist told me switch to ice , that working better for me. I was thinking if I could hang like a scare crow the weight of my legs would stretch me out
 

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FYI FWIW

5 Natural Herniated Disc Treatment Options
by Joe Boland

Published: July 11, 2016

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[Below is my transcript of my video about herniated disc treatment, along with supplemental information on the topic.]

Back pain is something a very large number of people have to deal with at one point or another. In fact, there are some 31 million people in the U.S. alone who suffer from lower back pain at any one time, according to the American Chiropractic Association. (1) Unsurprisingly, a herniated disc is one of the leading causes of back pain, and it can be so debilitating that it makes everyday activities seem like moving mountains. (2) Thankfully, herniated disc treatment doesn’t have to be chore.

If you have a herniated disc, a bulging disc, a desiccated disc, or any sort of low back injury or low back pain, these tips can absolutely help you deal with the sciatic nerve pain that follows. I can tell you from experience. I’ve had a herniated disc from lifting weights and doing other things in the past. These things help me personally, and I’ve seen them help thousands of patients I’ve taken care of over the years as well.



Here, I lay out five steps to heal a herniated disc, including the diet, the supplements and natural herniated disc treatment options you need to follow. Let’s start with the diet you need eat and go one from there with the herniated disc treatment steps that will give you fast back pain relief at the same time.

5 Herniated Disc Treatment Steps
1. Eat a Collagen/Bone Broth Diet

First off, you need to give your body the specific nutrients it needs in order to heal the area, and that means you need to follow what I call the collagendiet. Your body needs collagen to help heal and repair a damaged disc and tissues. In order to do that, collagen is found in protein powder made from bone broth or bone broth liquid. (3)

Drinking bone broth on a regular basis is the No. 1 dietary thing you can do. You can make bone broth at home yourself or simply buy a liquid bone broth online and have it shipped to you frozen. Sometimes you can even find it in your grocery store. You want to consume two to three servings a day — it’s an absolute must for herniated disc treatment.

I recommend you make a big crock-pot soup every single day to consume. For instance, combine chicken, celery, onions, carrots, some organic chicken and some chicken bone broth. That’s going to give you some of the nutrients you need to help heal and repair your low back, stiff neck or wherever you might have a herniated disc.

Also, getting more antioxidants by consuming high-antioxidant foods like blueberries is key. The ideal herniated disc treatment diet looks something like this:

  • Breakfast: A smoothie with a collagen protein powder or protein powder made from bone broth, blueberries, coconut milk and maybe some anti-inflammatory herbs like ginger root.
  • Lunch/Dinner: Soup or stew with the bone broth.
2. Consume Beneficial Supplements

The best supplements for healing a herniated disc include a collagen protein or a protein powder made from bone broth. Those contain the amino acids glutamine, glycine, proline, as well as arginine. These are the amino acids that your body needs for collagen production and help heal damaged tissues.

The following supplements are also beneficial for herniated disc treatment:

3. Practice Egoscue

Moving on from your diet’s role in herniated disc treatment, there are some lifestyle changes you should incorporate as well. One is to begin practicing Egoscue. Egoscue is a form of physical therapy, but it’s not just any physical therapy. Egoscue can help you in restoring your posture. This is crucial for herniated disc treatment, so look up Egoscue in your area.

An Egoscue practitioner is going to prescribe a specific customized exercise plan for you and have you do exercises to help restore your posture, because if you have poor posture or what’s called lower-crossed syndrome or upper-crossed syndrome, that’s going to put extra stress on that disc causing a herniated disc. So make sure you see an Egoscue practitioner.

4. Get Prolotherapy

I also highly recommend that you look into a form of regenerative medicine called prolotherapy. Prolotherapy, which uses platelet-rich plasma (PRP) injections, actually help repair the damaged tissue.

A lot of times what can happen when you herniate a disc, it results from a lower back or ligament injury and the ligaments become lax. It’s just like when you sprain or tear your ACL or sprain your ankle. Those ligaments then can become loose, and then the muscles have to make up for it. This can lead to spasms, and that can be actually the root cause of your pain. In fact, a lot of times if you have a herniated disc the pain is not caused by the disc herniation — it’s more caused by nerve-root compression within the muscles and other tissues instead of that.

Prolotherapy helps repair that muscle tissue, which is why you should definitely incorporate it into your herniated disc treatment plan. Typically, you need to do about three to eight treatments, and you will see phenomenal results by doing prolotherapy if you stick to it. (9)

The type of prolotherapy I recommend most? Regenexx, which I personally use for my back and shoulder injuries, as has my wife for past injuries. I suggest checking out Regenexx for the highest quality and most studied PRP and stem cell treatments.

Egoscue helps retrain the muscles while PRP will help retrain the ligaments and the tendons. You’ve got to retrain all three of those if you’re going to completely heal yourself from a herniated disc.

5. Get Corrective Chiropractic Care

Last but not least, corrective chiropractic care can do wonders for a herniated disc, but beware of improper chiropractic adjustments. Many chiropractors do a form of adjustment that’s going to cause your ligaments to possibly become more loose, believe it or not. You want to do corrective chiropractic adjustments that follow chiropractic biophysics, CLEAR Institute or even Pettibon System techniques. Corrective chiropractic care retrains and gets the corrected spinal curvatures back.

Part of what can cause herniated discs is if you get what’s called a military neck and losing the curve in your neck. It also can result from having too much or too little curve in your lumbar spine or having a condition like a spondylolisthesis that can cause instability of your lumbar spine or your cervical spine. If you want to heal, you must be careful to seek out corrective chiropractic care.

More on Herniated Discs
You might be wondering the difference between, say, a herniated disc and a bulging disc.

A herniated disc is more like a disc opening and spilling its insides out, while a bulging disc is the disc stretching and protruding outward. Herniated discs are also called ruptured discs or slipped discs more often than bulging discs are. Compared to herniated discs, bulging discs are more common, and they might also go unnoticed more often since they can cause less pain. Then again, each person’s symptoms are different.

The main difference between the two is that a bulging disc is thought to be caused by pressure that forces the disc to stretch, while on the other hand a herniated disc is primarily caused from a crack developing in the tough outer layer of the disc’s cartilage. (10) With a herniated disc, once a crack forms it’s possible for the disc’s softer inner cartilage to move through the crack and touch surrounding nerves, similar to what happens with a bulging disc.

A herniated disc can also be a sign or symptom of other problems as well, such as:

Final Thoughts on Herniated Disc Treatment
If you do these five things, you’re going to see great results in your herniated disc treatment:

  1. Follow a bone broth diet or bone broth fast.
  2. Take beneficial supplements, such as collagen protein, omega-3 and turmeric.
  3. Practice Egoscue.
  4. Get prolotherapy.
  5. Get corrective chiropractic care.
Read Next: Piriformis Syndrome: How to Manage This Lower-Body Pain Disorder


https://draxe.com/herniated-disc-treatment/
 

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I was thinking if I could hang like a scare crow the weight of my legs would stretch me out
Find a bar to hang from and see if it helps. It couldn't hurt to try.
 

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Find a bar to hang from and see if it helps. It couldn't hurt to try.
I was gonna suggest the same. I like to hang and decompress my sacrum area.
 

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I use an inversion table to decompress the spine.

Not sure it will work for everyone, but it seems to for me.

If I sit too long in a hard chair (skinny butt, what can I say) my right side cramps up. If I invert I feel the lumbar vertebrae relax and kind of 'pop' like knuckles and then I'm good to go for the rest of the day.

Big 5 sports has them for $99

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I never used an Inversion Rack but I have been able to ease back issues by laying on the floor with my legs from my knees to my toes up in a chair seat or up on a couch. My position would look like I had fallen backwards while sitting in a chair ( have plenty of pillows cause I would be there for at least an hour and sometimes my tailbone and shoulders needed the cushion).

When I recently saw my vertebrae in X-Rays and CT Scans they were not perfectly aligned like the skeleton in biology/science class but I've had no issues for over 15 years with pain or mobility. FWIW
 

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Was using heat, therapist told me switch to ice , that working better for me. I was thinking if I could hang like a scare crow the weight of my legs would stretch me out
I found just the opposite works. The weight of your trunk is greater than the legs. More efficient that way. I've hung from the upper edge of a sliding glass door and my arms give out before anything happens. Using the inversion table I can hang at a 45 angle and in 5 mins it pops and I'm good to go.

Prolo therapy does work. Know a guy that couldn't lift a hammer because he was an insane rock climber and wacked a few walls in his time. Went for prolo and in a few weeks his arm came back to normal.
 

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So been on calcium, magnesium, C, shark cartilage, dose of gabapentin just upped to 600 3x daily, taking tramadol prn, Saw doc on Friday he said 3 options if the increased gabapentin dont work, constant pain pills, an epidural which only has a 60% chance of sucess or neuro surgeon, saw one before and he said there was nothing he could do surgically, I saw the pain guy when I was hospitalized the pain was so bad though I was having the big one, patient advocate came by asked if she could help, i told her whats going on she brings in pain management guy, he comes in examines me, goes and looks at films, not reports, comes back says t7 badly bulging on nerves to gut and abdomen, no one else looked at the films on the reports. So has anoyone had t7 surgery, he said its tricky because of location , im scared of the epidoural as when I had the myelogram the spine leaked for weeks and i was bedridden, thats when i started taking the suppliments. My sister just moved down the street from out of the area so she has a professional decompression table, Im going to try that first.
 

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Here is Wishing You the Best southfork and my prayer list just got one more buddy added.
 

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Yeah, I hope you are on the good side of this issue real soon...

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FWIW, I have a teeter. When my legs feel like they need to move (restless leg) or my back starts acting like it wants to go chronic I hop on the teeter for relief. It usually works for me.
 

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MIL ......that had some success with steroids and gabapentin really disliked the side effects of the Gaba....tried and had some success with CBO oil ...started decompression....and aggressive physical therapy......so far has been able to eliminate the Gaba and Steroids...still functioning and getting better well on CBO oil and PT ....its been a ongoing process ....not sure her exact vertibre problem but i know its Lower back (lumbar)... as stated previously she was not a good candidate for a spinal block.....

otherwise she is mid 70s in very good physical condition ..not overweight...outdoors person....has ridden thousands of trail miles on horses up till this year....she thinks she can resume limited horse trail riding this year
 

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A word of caution on inversion tables. Your hip joints and knees are designed for compression, not tension. Decades ago I had inversion boots, the kind where you hang upside down from a chinning bar. Did help my back but one of my hips developed a problem that took years to go away. Think about this: when two bones are pulled apart at the joint, what fills the void?
Moderation is the key.
 

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I'm scared to even read this thread. Day-am guys. I sure hope you all get it figured out because reading about it makes me hurt.
 

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Maybe look into a TENS unit. My wife uses one for her L3 herniated disk and swears by it. It controls the pain by sending micro-voltage pulses to the affected area. The one she uses is designed for lower back issues. Not a cure but a way to get through the day.
 

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I'm scared to even read this thread. Day-am guys. I sure hope you all get it figured out because reading about it makes me hurt.
An 85 yo lady told me "Gitting old ain't for sissies."
 

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An 85 yo lady told me "Gitting old ain't for sissies."
That ol' lady gets around. I think she told my granddaddy the same thing back in the day.:secret:
 

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Also, as GH alluded, the inversion table doesn't have to go to 90 deg from horizontal.

Drop it as much as is comfortable.

Hope you get relief soon, Southfork.

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Maybe look into a TENS unit. My wife uses one for her L3 herniated disk and swears by it. It controls the pain by sending micro-voltage pulses to the affected area. The one she uses is designed for lower back issues. Not a cure but a way to get through the day.
Cant use tens due to my pacemaker/defibrillator
 

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southfork, Get off the Gabapentin as soon as you can . It has terrible side effects one of which will be a complete change in your behavior/mood. I know, I was on the max dosage years ago (thanks to the military) and the out come was not good. I had T9-T10 herniation as well has L4 bulge. My Herniated disc's were only relived by Stretching (Like GoldBrix said) lie down on the floor with your feet in a chair/couch in a sitting position. Helps me a lot. CBD oil and it's big brother THC work wonders as well. Nature has the cure, Man just outlawed it!

Hope you find relief because I know the pain!
 

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southfork, Get off the Gabapentin as soon as you can . It has terrible side effects one of which will be a complete change in your behavior/mood. I know, I was on the max dosage years ago (thanks to the military) and the out come was not good. I had T9-T10 herniation as well has L4 bulge. My Herniated disc's were only relived by Stretching (Like GoldBrix said) lie down on the floor with your feet in a chair/couch in a sitting position. Helps me a lot. CBD oil and it's big brother THC work wonders as well. Nature has the cure, Man just outlawed it!

Hope you find relief because I know the pain!
Had to cut back on the gabapentin, was waking up with nausea in middle of night
 

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Fuckiin tired of pain every day guys, seems to be getting worse by the week. Dont like taking pain pills, were switching from hmo to ppo jan 1st and will be going to see a new neuro guy, last one only looked at report and said theres nothing there, i was hospitalizes in oct for pain so bad though i was having the big one too, patient advocate came thru asked if she could help i said yah get me someone who know whats wrong with me, this started in Jan of 2016, guy shows up a few hours later, had reviewed reports and then examined me, says let me go see films, he read the actual films, found large herianted disc at t7, said thats the issue its laying on the nerves that go to your gut and abdomen, first one who diagnosed issue , do odds are they took out my gall bladder for no reason and did a lars surgery for no reason other than lazy fucking doctors. Pains been really bad for going on 2 years now, starting to have to take pain pills daily. Getting old
 

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Also, as GH alluded, the inversion table doesn't have to go to 90 deg from horizontal.

Drop it as much as is comfortable.

Hope you get relief soon, Southfork.

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And a 30* angle will feel like 90*!
 

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My first few times on an inversion table at 15* I felt like I was upside down and that my head was going to explode. Took me half a dozen separate times to work up to 90*. Once there it's a wonderful feeling! Decompression baby.