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Unlikely, but interesting list to read and store in the back of your mind.

http://thesurvivalmom.com/emp-survival-first-things-to-do/

There’s not a moment to spare because one second after the lights go out, everyone is a survivalist.   The First 15 Things You Must Do Immediately After an EMP

1. VERIFY Verify that what has happened is really an EMP or a massive failure of the power grid, rather than a typical power outage. • If you have a landline phone, is the line dead? • Are you able to connect to the internet? • Looking outside, are many, possibly all, vehicles at a standstill? • Can you contact anyone with your cell phone? Can you send and receive text messages? Those will all be telltale indicators, but they are not confirmation. Keep in mind that the government has the capability to disrupt personal cell phone service, giving first responders priority, but text messages may still get through in a non-EMP emergency.

Not all experts are in agreement about how an EMP will affect specific technology. If some of your electronics are operable and your vehicle’s engine comes to life when you turn the key, count yourself blessed.

2. DELEGATE Immediately begin dividing up the tasks on this list between family or group members. There’s a lot to be done and your window of opportunity has already started to close. Even young kids can help with filling up sinks and bathtubs with water.

Checklist for delegating the basics: • Check phone lines and cell phone connection. • Attempt to turn each vehicle on. Include motorcycles, ATVs, golf carts, tractors – all motorized vehicles. • Check for fires in neighboring houses. Without help from a fire department, these fires will quickly spread. • Fill bathtubs with water using a WaterBOB or a similar product, if possible. • Fill sinks and every large container with water. Additional Water BOBs can be filled and left outside. • Assign one person to pick up kids. See details at #6. • Look for any device that has the current time and is still running. • Collect all cash, including coins. • Check to see if shortwave/ham radio is working. If it is, attempt to connect with radio stations that haven’t been affected and gather whatever information is available.

3. DEAL WITH FIRES It’s possible that the EMP may have generated electrical fires. Quickly check around the house (smoke detectors wired into your home’s electrical system will not be operational) and smell for smoke. If there’s a fire, putting it out, or GETTING OUT of the house, will be your first and most immediate step.

ACTION STEP: Install one or two battery-powered smoke detectors at each end of your house or apartment and purchase fire extinguishers. Keep one in the kitchen and one in the master bedroom. It’s a good idea to also keep an extinguisher in the garage and one in the upstairs hallway, convenient to all the upstairs rooms.

Buy an extra extinguisher for practice outside, especially if you’ve never used one before. In the heat of the moment, no pun intended, it’s highly unlikely that you’ll be able to focus on reading the instructions while faced with a rapidly growing fire.

4. WATER Unless you have your own water well and a manual pump, water becomes the second most immediate need. The EMP has very likely disabled your city’s water system, including its ability to filter and purify water. The clean water in the system may be all you get for months, or much longer. In most cities there is, at best, 24-36 hours’ worth of clean water in the system at any given time.

Quickly fill with water each bathtub, sink, water barrel, trash can, and all other large containers, even if they aren’t squeaky clean. From this point forward, any water gathered from rainfall, a well, a swimming pool, or any other source will need to be purified before drinking, and that includes water stored in less-than-clean sinks and bathtubs.

Keep in mind, too, that the water coming into your home arrives there thanks to a pumping system that keeps the water flowing. If the pumps aren’t operating, there’s no way of knowing exactly how that will affect your home’s water supply. There may be water in the pipes but without a force behind it, it will be difficult to access. In that case, find the faucet that is the lowest to the ground, possibly an outdoor faucet/hose bib used for the garden hose, and drain water from that point.

5. VEHICLES Try to start every motorized vehicle you own, from car to ATV to golf cart. Even if an EMP disables most vehicles, there will likely be some that escape the damage, so don’t assume all motors have been affected. A working vehicle will greatly enhance your chances for survival, especially in the first 72 hours or so following the EMP.

Experts do not agree on exactly how an EMP will affect vehicles. Some say that virtually every motorized vehicle will be disabled, except for a few manufactured decades ago. Others say that it depends on the location of the vehicle, where it’s parked, and even the direction in which it’s parked! At this moment, it’s enough to see if any of your vehicles are running. There will be plenty of time to argue about the finer points of EMP effects down the road!

6. GATHER KIDS Are your kids at school? For the next few hours, they will be safe there. Most teachers and staff will not quickly realize the full extent of the damage to the power grid and will follow established emergency protocol. This will include not allowing masses of panicked parents on campus to grab their kids. Use this time to calm down, assess what needs to be done at your home, and then get to the school to pick your kids up.

By the end of the school day, teachers and other school employees will want to get home to their own families. Some may choose to stay with the remaining kids, but that’s not something you can count on. If your kids are teens, they should have been instructed to recognize the effects of an EMP and told to head home, following an agreed-upon route. They should also have their own Get Home Bag containing whatever items are allowed on campus. If they have a friend who lives near the school, that bag can be stashed there instead, especially since high school lockers are infamous for being too small anyway. Keeping their Get Home Bag at a friend’s house will allow them to add a few extra items, such as a pocket knife and basic medicine, like ibuprofen or an inhaler, which might not be allowed on campus. Younger kids should remain at school until a family member or other designated person comes for them. Be sure that person has a photo ID and, if they are not the parent, a written note from you giving permission to pick up your child. For a time, schools will still be very liability-minded, which is a good thing! You wouldn’t want a stranger showing up and claiming your kid. Give yourself plenty of time to make the trek to the school, or multiple schools if your kids attend more than one. Depending on the location of your child’s school and the route you must take to get there, it might be wise to carry a firearm for protection. While I do not recommend breaking the law, this isn’t the time to worry about gun-free zones. The school will probably have a system set up for parents to sign out their kids, so you might not even need to enter the building, and if you’re traveling with another adult, one of you can pick up the kids, while the other remains outside, and armed. Each hour that passes increases the number of people who are realizing the enormous implications of what has happened, making the outside world less and less safe by the hour. If you don’t have a vehicle, you’ll have to either walk or ride a bike. You’ll be making the trip home with little ones who might have a tough time walking a couple of miles or more. In that case, bring along a scooter, wagon, skateboard, etc. to make it easier for them. Make sure you’re home before it gets dark; bring some functioning flashlights, just in case. ACTION STEP: Consider the possibility of establishing a series of ‘safe houses’ between your child’s school and your home. These should be the homes or places of business of people you know well or have a connection with through church or another organization that brings together like-minded people. BEFORE A CRISIS, ask that person if they would be willing to harbor your child in a severe emergency until you can arrive to pick them up and offer to do the same for their children. Mark these locations on a map, along with various routes, and laminate the map for long-term preservation in your child’s backpack. When you’re able to venture out to collect your children, you can begin with the safe house closest to your home and progress closer to their school until you’re reunited. 7. GET HOME YOURSELF If you aren’t at home, get there as quickly as you can. What if this event finds you hundreds or thousands of miles away? That presents a completely different survival scenario and strategy, which I’ll detail in the book and, possibly, in future emails. A Get Home Bag stashed in your vehicle or your workplace will help make the trek home easier and, especially, safer. That bag should include:

• Flashlight with extra batteries, but here’s a good chance that LED flashlights will have been affected by the EMP. A UVPaqlite, which utilizes naturally luminescent minerals, provides ambient light without requiring batteries and a LuminAID solar powered light takes up little room in your pack, although it’s possible that its electronic components will be damaged. • Water – Most important. You’ll need at least 2 liters per day, possibly more if you’ll be walking in hot and/or humid weather. If you’re not sure you can get water along the route home, discard from your pack what you can and make room for more water. • 2 methods for purifying water, either a LifeStraw or a Sawyer Mini Water Filter • Small first aid kit, including moleskin and other blister treatments, plus any necessary prescription medications (enough for at least one week) • Extra pair of lightweight wool or wool blend socks • High calorie snacks/energy bars – I favor the Datrex 3600 Calorie Food Bar. That’s a lot of calories packed into a single bar. • Cash (Divide this into at least 2 stashes and carry them in different pockets, inside a shoe, or in some other hiding place. See #9.) • Hand sanitizer or wipes • Toilet paper or a couple of packets of tissues • Personal protection gear, e.g. handgun with extra magazines, taser, etc. • Knife – This should be something more than a Swiss army knife because you may have to use it for self-defense. • Map of area with alternate routes identified • A compass, even if you don’t know how to use it, it will still be helpful in providing general directions • Sunglasses and a spare pair of eyeglasses or contact lenses • Rain poncho – can double as a ground cover, if necessary. • Portable ham radio, if you know how to use it. Store it in an EMP-proof bag. • A change of comfortable clothes and shoes for walking, suitable for the current season, if your usual work attire isn’t suitable. • Small tool/survival kit to include a 4-way Sillcock key (can be used to access exterior secured water spigots), multitool, matches, duct tape, and length of paracord. 8. KEEP TRACK OF TIME This might sound like a minor detail, but unless any of your electronics have avoided destruction, there won’t be a way to keep track of time. Setting schedules, including security measures and meeting times, can only happen if everyone has a way to track time. A sundial isn’t going to do the trick! Some electronics that may not have been damaged that can be used to set and tell time: • iPods • Tablets • Kitchen appliances • Cell phones • Ebook readers (Kindle, Nook) • Fitbit, or similar device • GPS device • Digital camera If you’re a worrier like me, I need to know how long my kids have been gone on errands and when I can expect them, or my husband, home, safe and sound. This one simple step will spare you a lot of stress. ACTION STEP: Look for wind-up wristwatches at estate sales and antique stores. 9. SHOP FOR LIFE-SAVING NECESSITIES Once you’re sure your home isn’t in danger of a fire, you have as much water stored as possible, and you’ve made plans to get the kids/grandkids home safely, it’s time to spend every last dollar and coin that you have on hand. This is when a motorized vehicle may end up saving lives, because you’ll be able to make more stops, and will be able to make quick decisions regarding routes and destinations. During the first few hours following the EMP, it should be safe enough to venture out, since the majority of people will be confused and not yet desperate. Wherever you decide to go, it will be best to travel with another person or two, since there will likely be many people who didn’t think to have cash on hand and will be just as happy to steal whatever it is you buy. If your area is safe for the time being, your group can split up and get more done. Ideally, one person could stay behind to provide some security for your home and belongings. Even if you are very well prepared for this event, you may as well spend that money because in a matter of hours, it’s going to be useless. Cash registers and ATM machines won’t be working, so try to find stores that are still open and willing to accept cash. The first things to shop for are items that are most necessary to survival. These might include: 1. Prescription medications and medical supplies --Insulin, inhalers, and diabetic supplies are life savers. 2. Food – stored supplies run out eventually, even if you have several weeks or even several months’ worth. Focus on buying canned food, rice, beans, pasta, honey, salt, sugar, and spices. 3. Baby supplies -- formula, diapers, and other baby-related products 4. Bleach – for household cleaning, as a disinfectant, and for purifying water 5. Gasoline or diesel – especially useful if any of your vehicles are functioning 6. Bottled water – Cases and cases of the stuff. 7. Oscillating fans – Babies, toddlers, the elderly, and those in poor health will not survive for long in unrelenting heat. These may have been incapacitated by the EMP, along with space heaters, another life-saving appliance. 8. Over-the-counter medications – Benadryl, ibuprofen, anti-diarrhea medication are just a few you’ll want to have plenty of. If you live in a city, it’s very possible that roads will be impassable due to hundreds of stalled cars. 10. CONTINUE THE SHOPPING SPREE Spending that last bit of cash should be a task delegated between 2 or more members of your family or group. One person/group should focus on buying items that are most necessary to survival. However, there is no limit to the number of products that will improve the quality of your post-EMP life. Stores that most people will overlook at first that you might want to check out: 1. Nurseries – Buy as many seedlings and seed packets for fruits and vegetables as possible. Look for heirloom varieties whenever possible because their seeds have better germination rates, making it easier to feed yourselves in future growing seasons. Other important products to buy are garden fabric and shade netting and different types of fertilizers. 2. Bicycle stores – Add spare tires, pumps, baskets, trailers, and other accessories to your stash. If you have little ones, consider buying a trailer now in order to make their transportation easier later. 3. Auto parts stores – Pick up as many spares as possible for things like windshield wiper blades, oil and air filters, fuel stabilizer, gasoline cans, siphoning hose,and bulbs for headlights and taillights for any working vehicles. Do the same for motorcycle parts stores, if you have a motorcycle. If all your vehicles are inoperable, this is a store you can skip. 4. Pet stores – Food and medications are top priorities. Buy flea and tick products, including tick removers, since insects of all kinds will soon begin to make life miserable. Also look for fish/bird antibiotics and buy as much as you can. These antibiotics are the same as those prescribed to humans. 5. Natural foods and/or vitamin stores – Stock up on Vitamin C, Vitamin D3, Vitamin E, multi-vitamins, protein powder, essential oils, and nutritionals you already use and know to be effective. Pick up a book about natural remedies if you don’t have one. Prescription for Nutritional Healing by Phyllis A. Balch is a classic and worth owning. 6. Restaurant supply stores – These should have basic food stuffs in bulk quantities, as well as basic paper and cleaning supplies, such as toilet paper, steel wool, and bleach. Most people will overlook these stores.

Avoid big box stores, except for, perhaps, the first few hours following the EMP event. It won’t take long before the lawless realize there is no protection for their intended victims. They will likely hit the big stores and malls first.

If your cash holds out, buy as much as possible of these things: • Batteries of all sizes • Toilet paper – Yes, you can use other things but TP is very efficient and has other uses. • Ammunition for firearms • Matches – Makes starting a fire quicker and easier for most people. • Household cleaners • Insecticides – Reclaim IT is one brand that is highly concentrated (1 ounce to 1 gallon water) and is a broad spectrum insecticide. • Heavy duty black trash bags • Disposable diapers in different sizes, if there’s a baby in the family or one is expected. • Any type of light source: lanterns (and fuel!), flashlights, light sticks Moving forward, and for an indefinite period of time, your priorities will be water, food, shelter, sanitation/disease prevention, and security. Keep those in mind as you stock up on last minute survival items. At the first sign that the tide has turned and your area is no longer safe, get home as quickly as possible or, at least, to a temporarily safer and quieter part of town. Warning signs will include an increasing number of people on the streets, blatant law-breaking, arson, and fighting......
 

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Verify that what has happened is really an EMP
There is an easy test to see if a power outage is a possible EMP event near you. Just try to turn on any battery operated electronics equipment (UPS, laptop, radio, etc). An EMP near your location would also wipe out your electronics items. If your battery operated items do turn on, then you can be confident that there was not an EMP near your location.
 

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What cars would you want if an EMP occurred?
 

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We also need to familiarize ourselves with a CME and know the difference.

FROM LINK BELOW: There is a lot of misinformation about Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) and Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) events, about what they are and how they effect things. One of the big misconceptions is that they are the same. While they may have a similar component and both can cause power outages, there are some striking differences.

The main difference between an EMP attack and a CME impact is what is effected. For EMP, both the power grid and electronics are damaged and destroyed. In a CME impact, mainly the power grid is affected, while electronics are untouched.

Why?

There are actually three components, or pulses, to an EMP, they are called E1, E2 and E3:

  • E1– The first component is a very fast, high voltage pulse. It is very brief, but very intense.
    • It is much faster than lightning and common lightning and surge suppressors will not stop this pulse.
    • It induces high voltages in wiring and cables, like power lines, phone lines, etc.
    • This is the component that destroys computers and electronic equipment.
  • The E2 pulse is a lot like lightning and is easier to protect against, though if the protection circuit was destroyed or damaged by the E1 pulse, may still do more damage.
  • The E3 pulse is a long duration pulse and is no like the E1 and E2 pulses.
    • It’s a very slow pulse, which can last up for minutes.
    • It is caused by the nuclear detonation disrupting the Earth’s magnetic field. Which sounds a lot like what happens during a CME impact.
    • This is the wave that shuts down the power grid. It does this by inducing a DC-like current. When enough DC current flows through a transformer, it melts.
While a CME can damage electronics in space, such as those on satellites and on the Space Station, it doesn’t generate any E1 pulse. A severe CME could take out large portions of the power grid out for years, but they would not damage any electronics equipment down here on Earth unless, perhaps, connected to the power grid or other very long lines.

http://www.thepreparednesspodcast.com/the-difference-between-emp-and-cme/
 

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For me, Mercedes suck, big time !

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We also need to familiarize ourselves with a CME and know the difference.

FROM LINK BELOW: There is a lot of misinformation about Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) and Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) events, about what they are and how they effect things. One of the big misconceptions is that they are the same.

http://www.thepreparednesspodcast.com/the-difference-between-emp-and-cme/
IDK, I have a 2017 Edge, POS. The Ford Service tells me it has 9 brains running it, I told them then it has 9 morons running it.
This fucking car rings a bell & applies the parking brake while we are driving down the road - really !!! The gas gage shows 1/2 full after a fill-up, then 15 minutes later it shows full.
The electronics are so complicated, it is 10 X as distracting as talking on a cell phone.
Now, with all that said, I would not be surprised if a fucking backfire from a truck would knock out the moron brains, let alone an EMP/CME. :totally steamed:
 

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How cute. A VW Bug and a HUM V had a baby!
I don't know of an easier car to keep running. I have had several, including Muir's Idiot book for VW's.
Shit, I even rebuilt a tranny, on the beach, in Baja, back in the 1968 or so.
 

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IDK, I have a 2017 Edge, POS. The Ford Service tells me it has 9 brains running it, I told them then it has 9 morons running it.
This fucking car rings a bell & applies the parking brake while we are driving down the road - really !!! The gas gage shows 1/2 full after a fill-up, then 15 minutes later it shows full.
The electronics are so complicated, it is 10 X as distracting as talking on a cell phone.
Now, with all that said, I would not be surprised if a fucking backfire from a truck would knock out the moron brains, let alone an EMP/CME. :totally steamed:
My truck had a factory recall for front ABS sensors. I had them replaced once under warranty, then a few years later under the Factory recall. They went bad again and I pulled the ABS fuse and motioned a gesture in the air.

The farkin truck would apply abs when meandering through parking lots at 3 mph and thus I couldn't freely stop! Nearly as bad as your P Brake situation but that is full on galactic retardation that I would never allow in my vessel.
 

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I don't know of an easier car to keep running. I have had several, including Muir's Idiot book for VW's.
Shit, I even rebuilt a tranny, on the beach, in Baja, back in the 1968 or so.
Did they also come with a little tool kit that could repair most anything on the car?
 

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Did they also come with a little tool kit that could repair most anything on the car?
Mine were bought used & I don't recall any. But for general repairs, you didn't need many tools.
Have you checked the prices lately !!! Min $3K to $10K or more !!
 

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Mine were bought used & I don't recall any. But for general repairs, you didn't need many tools.
Have you checked the prices lately !!! Min $3K to $10K or more !!
No but a friends neighbor has a nicely restored yellow Beetle that always reminds me of my childhood neighbor's that was my introduction to washing cars. Learned the term and application of "elbow grease" that day some 35 years ago.
 

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The shovel is a very nice touch. I'd move the petrol can to the passenger side though and let them take the brunt of any possible mmmmm...explosions! No offence to any passengers I might have/had. :p
 

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It's the micro nova you have to worry about. Gonna have to go deep to survive this one. If this guy is correct and the last one ended the last ice age 11,700 years ago, then we are about due. Thats assuming the 11,700 year date is accurate. What if it's plus or minus 300 years? :bomb 1:
 

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It's the micro nova you have to worry about. Gonna have to go deep to survive this one. If this guy is correct and the last one ended the last ice age 11,700 years ago, then we are about due. Thats assuming the 11,700 year date is accurate. What if it's plus or minus 300 years? :bomb 1:
It looks like the gaint crater found under greenland recently is the impact evidence of that event.
 

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The shovel is a very nice touch. I'd move the petrol can to the passenger side though and let them take the brunt of any possible mmmmm...explosions! No offence to any passengers I might have/had. :p
BUT, but, but, maybe there is one on the pass. side too !
 

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BUT, but, but, maybe there is one on the pass. side too !
Good point. Mine is simply that I don't feel super cozy driving around on a bomb! :bomb::bombs 8::bombs 7::bomb 1:
 

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Good point. Mine is simply that I don't feel super cozy driving around on a bomb! :bomb::bombs 8::bombs 7::bomb 1:
Gas cans are bombs when they are empty ! Just keep them full & they are much more safe.
 

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Gas cans are bombs when they are empty ! Just keep them full & they are much more safe.
Not too keen on sitting on a molotov cocktail either! Especially the way people drive around here.

 

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There is a Saturn sized asteroid about to hit. What sized metal detector should I get?
 

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Not too keen on sitting on a molotov cocktail either! Especially the way people drive around here.
I have put a lit match OUT in a can of gas. Gasoline must have a large proportion of oxygen in order to ignite. Then it must be in an enclosed container, in order to explode.
 

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I have put a lit match OUT in a can of gas. Gasoline must have a large proportion of oxygen in order to ignite. Then it must be in an enclosed container, in order to explode.
If you could see my vehicles it would make more sense! :D
 

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I have put a lit match OUT in a can of gas. Gasoline must have a large proportion of oxygen in order to ignite. Then it must be in an enclosed container, in order to explode.
And just as we we're talking....

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Death Toll in Florida Highway Crash Rises to 7, Including ‘Several Children’

The number of people killed in a crash in Florida has risen to seven, with several children among the deceased, according to reports. Two big rigs and two vehicles collided on Jan. 3, spilling fuel across a highway, and sparking a massive fire. About 50 gallons of diesel were spilled across Interstate 75 near Gainesville in Florida, authorities said, as two tractor-trailer rigs, a passenger van, and a mid-sized sedan crashed around 3.30 p.m. Several people were transported to a nearby hospital suffering critical injuries, according to the Gainesville Sun. Initially, six people were reported to have died, but authorities increased this to seven late on Thursday, Jan. 3.

Lieutenant Patrick Riordan from the Florida Highway Patrol told ABC Action News that several of the seven dead were children, but he didn’t have exact numbers at this time. Emergency responders said the crash was being treated as a homicide, but they didn’t elaborate on the reasons why. Lieutenant Riordan told The Associated Press that their top priorities were to conduct a thorough investigation and to identify the deceased victims. “There’s going to be families that need to be notified that their loves ones have perished,” said Lieutenant Patrick Riordan. Riordan said he didn’t know whether the victims were killed by the force of the crash or if they had burned in the fire, making identifying them difficult. He said five of the victims had been traveling in the passenger van, with others from the van hospitalized but he didn’t know how many.

The fire was so intense that it burned into the road. Emergency crews were able to bring it under control and extinguish it. Nicole Towarek, a student at Western University student in Ontario, told the Gainesville Sun that the heat was “insane.” “We kept seeing these little explosions and fire,” she said.

Debris from the crash was strewn across the road, Florida Highway Patrol said, with the highway closed in both directions in the aftermath of the crash. “There are engine parts and components, and there is a lot of area that is burned,” Riordan told the Gainesville Sun. “Contamination of fuel is a high probability at this point.”

A tweet from the Alachua County Sherriff’s office called for “all hands on deck” to deal with the emergency. They wrote that the crash was in the northbound lanes but that the southbound lanes were closed to keep a route open for first responders. “Unfortunately, this is a mass casualty crash with fire and an extensive scene. The crash is in the NB lanes. We needed to keep a route for first responders open. We apologize for delays in the commute. This required all hands on deck. The closure is going to be lengthy,” said the office. Fearing there may have been victims in the woods close to the highway, a helicopter was called in to assist with the search. Other details about the incident were not released by police or fire officials.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/death-toll-in-florida-highway-crash-rises-to-7-including-several-children_2756809.html
 

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Shit happens.
I have a tank in the back of my pickup that holds 75 gal of gas. I worry not !
 

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Good point. Mine is simply that I don't feel super cozy driving around on a bomb! :bomb::bombs 8::bombs 7::bomb 1:
My Willys Jeep and every other Flatfender jeep you are sitting on 10 gallons of gas...