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I'm 21 and live in a 72-square-foot NYC apartment that costs $1,345 a month. Here's what a day in my life looks like.

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$1345 a month where I live gets you a nice 3 bedroom 2 bath 1500 sf house on half an acre.

My spot is 4 bed, 2.5 bath 2500 sqft, 3 car garage with 25x12 covered deck and pool on half acre....did I mention 10 acre lake across the street? $1050/month
 

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The question should be WHY does it cost $1325 a month to rent a walk in closet in NYC. I think the answer will be that it has to cover the landlords overhead.
 

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some people live in small 15-25’ pocket cruisers at marinas

but even slip rates are sky high in NYC

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some people live in small 15-25’ pocket cruisers at marinas

but even slip rates are sky high in NYC

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That seems very appealing to me. Although I would like something in the 40-50' range to live on.
Went to the PO today. Had another offer on my other piece of land. This time 6k more than the last one I got 2 months ago. LOL. Add in the money for logging a few years ago and that makes my house and land I live on just about free to me. I only bought it 12 years ago.
Lots of money in the system plus low interest rates plus liberals destroying the cities are making rural properties go way up in value. Of course even if I sold there is nowhere for me to go where I would have this much privacy except in the oceans.
 

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I could not imagine living on a boat that small.

Not unless it was always tied up...what are you going to do for exercise, when you're underway or at anchor? Just sit all day? You're really going to hurt, body and mind...
 

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I've been to New York a number of times and love it. Would consider living there in downtown Manhattan were it not for their stupid mayor and other sundry and assorted creeps. Love to watch people, eat at nice restaurants and find whatever I'm looking for. Of course I haven't been mugged or had to pay taxes there ( I repeat myself) or my opinion would probably change dramatically.

As strange as it might sound, it seems to me it would be a lot easier to get lost and remain anonymous there than at my acreage in the country with very few people around. You would basically blend in with the surroundings which is just more people. It's part of the appeal for me. Oh, and no more friggin' grass to mow. Maintaining an acreage and keeping it appealing is a lot of work.
 

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I could not imagine living on a boat that small.

Not unless it was always tied up...what are you going to do for exercise, when you're underway or at anchor? Just sit all day? You're really going to hurt, body and mind...


depends on how disciplined one is
 

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I am trying to picture living in a space the size of my front entryway with less natural light. Where would my preps go?
 

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Where would my preps go?
That's easy.



You wouldn't have any.
....or they'd be in a rented storage space somewhere.

I'd imagine a Public Storage space in NYC wouldn't be cheap either.

Edited to add: I just looked. A 5'x10' at Public Storage in lower Manhattan costs $260/Month. A 4'x6' is $178.
 
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That's easy.



You wouldn't have any.
....or they'd be in a rented storage space somewhere.

I'd imagine a Public Storage space in NYC wouldn't be cheap either.

Edited to add: I just looked. A 5'x10' at Public Storage in lower Manhattan costs $260/Month. A 4'x6' is $178.
The house is paid for. The total taxes and electric come to slightly more than that. It’s 3200 finished sf on 1.5 acres. I don’t need no stinking park, I have all of nature. We watch our resident swan and loon families. We have a 3 stall attached garage that is full of stuff. Preps live here. Our “city house” is a condo at our permanent address because we work out of there. It will be paid for in a year. Then, we don’t know but will be flexible. I can’t even fit my “stuff in two homes”.
 

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That's easy.



You wouldn't have any.
....or they'd be in a rented storage space somewhere.

I'd imagine a Public Storage space in NYC wouldn't be cheap either.

Edited to add: I just looked. A 5'x10' at Public Storage in lower Manhattan costs $260/Month. A 4'x6' is $178.
That's exactly what I do. I have two motorcycles, several tubs of books that I don't have space to set out and have read, but want to keep...clothes I want to keep...momentos...tools...and preps.

They're all in a storage unit. It's my garage. Renting my apartment and the storage unit, is, together, cheaper than finding an apartment with a closed garage or storage facilities.
 

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part of me can't help but wonder if these stories are more about conditioning us to get used to Japan style living where they rent a sleeping pod for a few hours so they don't have to commute long distances from work to home back to work...and we here are going to be expected to live out of one full time while doing our work on a wifi lap top from our 'pod home'

"You Won't Own A Thing..."
 

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part of me can't help but wonder if these stories are more about conditioning us to get used to Japan style living where they rent a sleeping pod for a few hours so they don't have to commute long distances from work to home back to work...and we here are going to be expected to live out of one full time while doing our work on a wifi lap top from our 'pod home'

"You Won't Own A Thing..."
Which is why I have a room that is a library. I will not give up my leather bound copies of the Federalist Papers or Ben Franklin’s Biography. There are the no longer published Dr. Seuss books in that library. My library is meant to teach a generation if something should happen to me.
 

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When I was a student in the late 1970's in Paris, I lived in a "studio apartment" that measured 3.3m x 2.2m (10' 6" x 7')= 7.2 square meters, so 72 square feet.

I chopped off the top of the partition and the top of the door (great hollow space to stash my weed) to the toilet, and built a sleeping loft above, so I could have my desk and armchair below, be able to open the window. (I had to stoop to enter the toilet space... and pee sitting.) There was no bath or shower, but the far wall was a "kitchen unit", with an electric water heater in a cupboard, a 2-burner electric stovetop with a mini-fridge below. I could "sponge-bathe", no problem, in the kitchen sink. There was a standing wardrobe for clothing. And I chopped a swinging hinged passage for my cat in the entry door... No "litter-box". Nice cat, used to sit across my shoulders on road trips...

Electric heat was really cheap for such a small volume...

Monthly rent was 500 Francs, which was about $100 at that time (minimum wage was 800 Francs/month). I considered myself fortunate... Only found it because I knew the former tenant who was moving out...

The next tenant did a lot of weed dealing... and the "hollow upper toilet door stash" saved him from getting in trouble during a po-po raid, he told me years later when I ran into him, haha!
 
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Which is why I have a room that is a library. I will not give up my leather bound copies of the Federalist Papers or Ben Franklin’s Biography. There are the no longer published Dr. Seuss books in that library. My library is meant to teach a generation if something should happen to me.
It is well, proper and generous for you to do such.

It's doubtful it will work. Yours is an idea shared by Andrew Carnegie...retired from what became USSteel, with his gargantuan fortune, he wanted to return something to the people. So he started...the Carnegie Free Libraries. Not sure what the criterion were, but big cities and small towns all got Carnegie Libraries. Filled with worthwhile books, some of self-help, some of philosophy and scholarly pursuits, and some of entertainment.

Perhaps it worked, in bettering lives. They certainly were used, in an era of a literate population. But we know what a library is, today: A place for homeless bums to go in and look at online porn.

I hope yours betters your grandchildren's lives, and their children; but more of that will be up to them.
 

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In a camper it's called a wet bath and it can be handy. What happens to the toilet paper on the shelf behind the toilet?
The shower curtain pulls across. But. What. Kind. Of. Idiot...

The solitary confinement cells on Riker's Island are about that size.
 

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My brothers and I grew up with a Carnegie Library right down the street. Lots of good memories there. It's now a restaurant.
 

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I got the excitement feeling when I visited NYC the first few times. There's a lot going on and it's easy to go from one place to another even if a person doesn't have a car. The last few trips though we're kinda meh. Times Square was a blast that night after taking my son to see his first pro baseball game. The topless girls that can be getting pictures with a person was an interesting find another time. Nice place to visit but wouldn't want to live there. My son has his office in downtown Manhattan. Hasn't been there much in past year but I'd go visit him when traveling to diamond district a few blocks away.
 

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"In the U.S., our data shows the average studio apartment is 530 square feet, and rents for a national average of $1,065. Only about half of the apartments on our top 50 are smaller than that and just about half rent for less money."

So this lady is paying $18.68 per square foot for a not-to-code firetrap solitary confinement cell

The national average is exactly $2.00 per square foot. Half that size (275 sq. ft.) goes for $1.00 sq.ft.

So to keep to the national average, a 72 sq. ft. prison cell rents for $0.38 per sq. ft.

So she is paying essentially 50 (fifty) times the average rate in the US. She is not gonna last long in the tomorrow ahead.
 

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Manhattan is a bit far from the national average. So many people live there, a lot of money and power are there also, unlike Joplin, Missouri. Two different animals.

Ive visited Manhattan and I loved it. I had a waiter from I think it was Sweden and I ate some food made by an Albanian. I would never live there however. NYC people are different and I can usually spot them since I’m from upstate and they frequent my parts. It’s like they have a sort of PTSD from living a life of where people try to stab you in the back.

Some of that has even rubbed of on upstate. Where I’m from we don’t say hi to strangers and smile to strangers. It’s kinda weird when people do it to me lol then I remember I’m not in New York and people are civilized.
 
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Manhattan is a bit far from the national average. So many people live there, a lot of money and power are there also, unlike Joplin, Missouri. Two different animals.

Ive visited Manhattan and I loved it. I had a waiter from I think it was Sweden and I ate some food made by an Albanian. I would never live there however. NYC people are different and I can usually spot them since I’m from upstate and they frequent my parts. It’s like they have a sort of PTSD from living a life of where people try to stab you in the back.

Some of that has even rubbed of on upstate. Where I’m from we don’t say hi to strangers and smile to strangers. It’s kinda weird when people do it to me lol then I remember I’m not in New York and people are civilized.
Well, I would have to agree that 50 times the average rental price for a studio "apartment" is most ricky-tick a "bit far" from the national average.

It is right at 4 Sigma.

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Regarding upstate: When I was a kid, everybody always waved to folks as they came by. There were no locks on our doors. If a car was on the side of a road, the first person to come by would stop and help.

At our bank in Rhinebeck, my wife had a check bounce. The teller put her own money in the till to make it right and just told her about it when she came in the next time. <--TINS
 
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The key here for me is "gotta live in New York Shitty"

"around, around...........like angry ants...........mad for the smell of gasoline"
 

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..mad for the smell of gasoline
I spent two months in Europe after high school, and had a great time. One thing I remember is that Europe had a different feel, a different atmosphere. I couldn't quite place it, though.

Then many years later, I realized what it was. Europe smelled like diesel.
 

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Did I miss the part where this person has a job?
I have a junk room 2x that size, much more space outside and still trip over stuff on the floor.

Let's talk cubic feet.

She/it/them/what needs to start thinking vertically and horizontally.
 

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Europe smelled like diesel.

In 2005, the family and I piled into a Diesel Citroen in Nice and logged about 1400 kilometers on the little beast until it died about 2 weeks later in Verona and the tow-truck driver referred to it repeatedly as a "shitron."

The next day, we departed Verona for the outskirts of Venice in a Diesel Renault.

Great memories!
 
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People in Hong Kong live in stacked cages smaller than that. When you think about what you need and actually use it is not difficult to exist in that type of space. In the military I lived out of a duffel bag for years. People on a submarine would love the spaciousness of her place.

When travelling it is not uncommon for me to carry just a single backpack for a 2 week trip.