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There are rare times, IMO, that the community needs to really be on the same page; I believe a pandemic is one of them.
You believe a lot of things, that neither we, nor facts, support.

You know what this forum is, don't you? It's for people who don't believe these same Elites who tell the sheeple that gold is an "archaic relic" and a "rock." We believe we know better - and not because we say so, but because facts and the Fed's printing-addiction, prove it.

So, do you believe the Elites because they're the Elites? Are you all in on fiat and stawks? And if the Elites are wrong there...DELIBERATELY DISHONEST there...why not here, also?
 

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For herd immunity to develop a majority of the population needs to be infected. 10% of people 65+ die from the Covid19. There are 50 million people over the age of 65 in the US. Attaining herd immunity could result in millions of dead.
I'm IN that Category.
I'm IN the "I don't wear a mask" Category.
I'm IN the Overweight Category.
I'm IN the Diabetes Category.
I'm IN the Cancer Category.
I'm IN the Heart Issue Category. ( tests indicate I've had a heart attack but had NO obvious symptoms).
I'm IN the Lung Anomalies Category - Ground Glass nodules
I'm IN the Lost kidney Category: Due to cancer.
My "good" kidney has a cyst and does not eliminate proteins well. So I drink a gallon of filter water w/ Iodine everyday.
"What Me Worry" ?
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Life is Good.
Nobody gets out alive.
TTFN
 

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I'm IN that Category.
I'm IN the "I don't wear a mask" Category.
I'm IN the Overweight Category.
I'm IN the Diabetes Category.
I'm IN the Cancer Category.
I'm IN the Heart Issue Category. ( tests indicate I've had a heart attack but had NO obvious symptoms).
I'm IN the Lung Anomalies Category - Ground Glass nodules
I'm IN the Lost kidney Category: Due to cancer.
My "good" kidney has a cyst and does not eliminate proteins well. So I drink a gallon of filter water w/ Iodine everyday.
"What Me Worry" ?
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Life is Good.
Nobody gets out alive.
TTFN
Stay away from other people son! Is there anything left that's still working?
 

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Stay away from other people son! Is there anything left that's still working?
I pee real regularly.
I'm on year two of being cancer free, but it cost me my "better" kidney.
When I was told about the heart attack and due to the one so-so kidney I have left my heart doctor could not do the Catheter Procedure because the dye is known to be rough on kidneys even when a person has two good ones.
So I have resolved that WHEN I crash, and I know I will sometime in the future, there will not be any coming back.
All that crap above will cause a cascade of organ failures. IMO = DRT.

Like I say "Now, Life is Good",
Change the things I can, Accept the things I can not, Place it all in God's Hands. Amen
 

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I pee real regularly.
I'm on year two of being cancer free, but it cost me my "better" kidney.
When I was told about the heart attack and due to the one so-so kidney I have left my heart doctor could not do the Catheter Procedure because the dye is known to be rough on kidneys even when a person has two good ones.
So I have resolved that WHEN I crash, and I know I will sometime in the future, there will not be any coming back.
All that crap above will cause a cascade of organ failures. IMO = DRT.

Like I say "Now, Life is Good",
Change the things I can, Accept the things I can not, Place it all in God's Hands. Amen
Stay healthy brother and enjoy every day. That's what I do too as I also have a somewhat colorful medical history. We all have a finite number of days left so in that, you are not alone!
 

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Face masks reduce the quantity of droplets emitted by infected persons (by absorbing some of the droplets). Fewer contaminated droplets will reduce the number of subsequent infections. Good luck to you guys who want to be close to people who do not wear face masks. I prefer to keep some distance from everyone when possible, and completely avoid anyone without a face mask.

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Face masks reduce the quantity of droplets emitted by infected persons (by absorbing some of the droplets). Fewer contaminated droplets will reduce the number of subsequent infections. Good luck to you guys who want to be close to people who do not wear face masks. I prefer to keep some distance from everyone when possible, and completely avoid anyone without a face mask.

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Reduces, not eliminates. Don't touch your face.
 

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Guys this is really simple. If the masks were completely worthless then why do surgeons and nurses wear them during surgery? CLEARLY there’s a benefit there to help prevent spread of pathogens. Now having said that I completely believe the hysteria and hype is 1000% overrated and ridiculous. If peeps are sick then THEY need to be quarantined not just wear a mask. Other than that this thing will just have to burn itself out. I don’t really believe there’s any stopping it if it is a true superbug. So in which case perhaps the quicker it’s spread so we can get over it the better?
 

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Guys this is really simple. If the masks were completely worthless then why do surgeons and nurses wear them during surgery? CLEARLY there’s a benefit there to help prevent spread of pathogens. Now having said that I completely believe the hysteria and hype is 1000% overrated and ridiculous. If peeps are sick then THEY need to be quarantined not just wear a mask. Other than that this thing will just have to burn itself out. I don’t really believe there’s any stopping it if it is a true superbug. So in which case perhaps the quicker it’s spread so we can get over it the better?
to assist in the prevention of infecting YOU with a bacteria.

here is the deal. A molecular compound (fart smell) is about 0-5 microns in size. a virus is one million times smaller!

that means that........if YOU have a virus the standard surgical garb isn't going to help the surgeon or the nurse. In the converse if a surgeon or nurse has the virus their standard wear isn't going to help you, either.

If your combat quality mask doesn't have a virus filter you are wasting your time.
 

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Guys this is really simple. If the masks were completely worthless then why do surgeons and nurses wear them during surgery? CLEARLY there’s a benefit there to help prevent spread of pathogens. Now having said that I completely believe the hysteria and hype is 1000% overrated and ridiculous. If peeps are sick then THEY need to be quarantined not just wear a mask. Other than that this thing will just have to burn itself out. I don’t really believe there’s any stopping it if it is a true superbug. So in which case perhaps the quicker it’s spread so we can get over it the better?
They wear rated, fitted, properly-sealed masks.

They also wear scrubs - which they throw into the laundry once finished working in risky zones, to prevent taking contamination out.

There is a big difference between an engineered filtering mask, and a stupid bit of cloth or paper, not even enough to protect against a dusty environment. And without a form-fitted seal, it's absolutely useless.

Anyone who did time in the Armed Forces knows the importance of mask seals - for CBO protective equipment or in use for shipboard firefighting.

These masks are RIDICULOUS in how useless they are.
 

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Guys this is really simple. If the masks were completely worthless then why do surgeons and nurses wear them during surgery? CLEARLY there’s a benefit there to help prevent spread of pathogens. Now having said that I completely believe the hysteria and hype is 1000% overrated and ridiculous. If peeps are sick then THEY need to be quarantined not just wear a mask. Other than that this thing will just have to burn itself out. I don’t really believe there’s any stopping it if it is a true superbug. So in which case perhaps the quicker it’s spread so we can get over it the better?
If masks work and are used in every operating room, if every surgical tool and every surface of the operating room is disinfected before every procedure, if every surgical site on the patient is swashed with iodine and who knows what other disinfectants before an incision is made...why are there still thousands of cases of infections from surgical procedures still occurring in the US?
 

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Face masks reduce the quantity of droplets emitted by infected persons (by absorbing some of the droplets). Fewer contaminated droplets will reduce the number of subsequent infections. Good luck to you guys who want to be close to people who do not wear face masks. I prefer to keep some distance from everyone when possible, and completely avoid anyone without a face mask.

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Even the so-call "experts" can not make up their minds.
My ounce of prevention is Sunlight, Zinc, Silver, and multi-vitamin /minerals tablets & ASA, with my prescribed meds. Now numbering TWO.
And not re-breathing my own waste .
 

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No sir, those masks are NOT sealed nor are they custom fitted.
The reusable masks with filter pods aren't custom fitted?

I beg to differ. I'd been fitted in the Nav...no, they didn't make one for my face, but a fitment guy played with his supply of shapes, and got me one that would seal.

And some of the medical people I'd seen - especially before this lunacy - had the reusable pod-filter masks when in risky areas.

I don't mean, wax models of the face. I mean, a sealing surface around the face; and a proper sizing, and instructions on how to wear it. Yes, and regular changing out - every four hours or so, at least.
 

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The reusable masks with filter pods aren't custom fitted?

I beg to differ. I'd been fitted in the Nav...no, they didn't make one for my face, but a fitment guy played with his supply of shapes, and got me one that would seal.

And some of the medical people I'd seen - especially before this lunacy - had the reusable pod-filter masks when in risky areas.

I don't mean, wax models of the face. I mean, a sealing surface around the face; and a proper sizing, and instructions on how to wear it. Yes, and regular changing out - every four hours or so, at least.
I may have misunderstood but I thought you were talking your garden variety surgical masks worn in most hospital operating room in the country.
 

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Yes, and regular changing out - every four hours or so, at least.
How many of you driving see Surg. Masks hanging from the Rear view mirror ? My bet is those go weeks if ever clean, washed or replaced.
And there is still a faction that can not or will not cover their nose.
So, I'm good.
TTFN
 

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I may have misunderstood but I thought you were talking your garden variety surgical masks worn in most hospital operating room in the country.
They're elastic on the edges.

The ones without pods are made of N99 filter paper.

What's the rating of these cloth masks?

I've SEEN the sheeple wearing them on the street. They're not even touching skin between nose and cheeks. The only things those are good for, is hiding identity when sticking up a Starbucks.

Or for kids playing doctor.

The most amusing use I find, is in restaurants. Cucks come in, off the street (outside, where there's no risk) wearing the mask...and then with bare fingers, TAKE THEM OFF, to hang around the neck, while eating.

WHAT GOOD DOES THAT DO? TWENTY MINUTES of no protection, and lots of air/fluids being released. THEN...but the dirty mask, that had been around the neck, BACK ON.

Absolute insanity.
 

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If masks work and are used in every operating room, if every surgical tool and every surface of the operating room is disinfected before every procedure, if every surgical site on the patient is swashed with iodine and who knows what other disinfectants before an incision is made...why are there still thousands of cases of infections from surgical procedures still occurring in the US?
There would be many many more without the masks. The ORs are decontaminated prior to surgery but how do you decontaminate the surgeon and nurses exhalation? You cannot. The best you can do is minimize as much of it as possible. I contend that there would be many time more infections if not for the masks. However your point also proves my prior point which is that infections can and still will happen even with these ridiculous protocols.

Also you idiots saying the virus are too small aren’t wrong but they only really live and replicate inside other cells and in bodily fluids. So if you can stop the cells and fluids you’ll stop most of it. Here’s a newsflash for you—condoms have porous holes that are bigger than HIV viruses. Yet they still help prevent spread of the disease. Why is that so you think???

Bottom line is if somebody wants to wear a mask...they’re not wrong—let em. If somebody doesn’t want to wear a mask...they’re also not wrong—let em not(unless they know they are infected and/or have been exposed...in which case they are an irresponsible idiot and need an arse-kicking). Speaking of in public around others of course. Obviously if you’re wearing a mask at home or in your vehicle by self then you need to go see a therapist about your paranoia.
 

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Guys this is really simple. If the masks were completely worthless then why do surgeons and nurses wear them during surgery? CLEARLY there’s a benefit there to help prevent spread of pathogens. Now having said that I completely believe the hysteria and hype is 1000% overrated and ridiculous. If peeps are sick then THEY need to be quarantined not just wear a mask. Other than that this thing will just have to burn itself out. I don’t really believe there’s any stopping it if it is a true superbug. So in which case perhaps the quicker it’s spread so we can get over it the better?
They also wear protective eyewear, you think that is for viruses?
 

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IMO they pushed fear on the world for an agenda still evolving...

Wearing masks are merely an indication of your compliance with their directives.
In other words it's an easy way to get a quick count of who you've got control over.
 

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At least you are admitting that virus exist.
I most certainly did not.

I'll repeat it for you, since you obviously subverted what I said, which is why I know that you are indeed a soros troll.

"Silv is here to promote the cause of the virus, and the fear porn."

Does the statement that the utterance of "promote the cause of the virus" by someone else confer legitimacy to the idea of a virus by the person uttering that statement. Of course not. That linguistic shift is a logical fallacy, and the mark of a true troll.

That's why it's obvious that this troll is here to deceive.
 
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Good message, except this part is not quite sufficient:

unless they know they are infected and/or have been exposed...in which case they are an irresponsible idiot and need an arse-kicking.
Many people (perhaps all) are infectious a day or two before they show any symptoms. Other people may be infectious without ever having symptoms. That means anyone who was within talking distance of someone else could be infected but not yet know it. The best way to protect healthy people from infection by those who do not yet know they are infected is for everyone to wear masks to reduce the risk from infectious droplets.
 

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<----------- Ask me if masks work in the real world!
Depends on how you define "real world". In the real world I support surgeons and dentists wearing masks while they are closely engaged with working on my open crevices.

Otherwise I could care less weather they wear a mask at any other time. Because there is no other true medical reason to wear one.
 

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They also wear protective eyewear, you think that is for viruses?
It's a farce and for those who don't know it's a farce:
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Many people (perhaps all) are infectious a day or two before they show any symptoms. Other people may be infectious without ever having symptoms. That means anyone who was within talking distance of someone else could be infected but not yet know it. The best way to protect healthy people from infection by those who do not yet know they are infected is for everyone to wear masks to reduce the risk from infectious droplets.
Pure fear porn. Has all the important criteria.

Invisible pathogen ready and willing to (be expressed out, sneezled out, spit out ?) jump on someone else who has come closer to 5 feet and infect them with a possible deadly death.

Try to imagine a particle the size and weight of a virus (billionith of a meter) jumping 5 feet. Figure out those calculations.

And you want to close the entire world down on the possiblilty that someone within 5 feet of you might sneeze on you.

Anyone who actively promotes healthy people wearing mask doing every day tasks is a moron, troll, or has a significant anxiety condition.
 

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Good message, except this part is not quite sufficient:



Many people (perhaps all) are infectious a day or two before they show any symptoms. Other people may be infectious without ever having symptoms. That means anyone who was within talking distance of someone else could be infected but not yet know it. The best way to protect healthy people from infection by those who do not yet know they are infected is for everyone to wear masks to reduce the risk from infectious droplets.
This is how we develop immunity, by exposing ourselves to the world we live in. We dig in the mud, we swim in the ocean, an ocean filled with all kinds of bugs and it makes us stronger.

To isolate yourself from that exposure makes you weak and vulnerable.

Wearing stupid masks makes you weak and vulnerable.

Only morons wear masks.
 

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This is how we develop immunity, by exposing ourselves to the world we live in. We dig in the mud, we swim in the ocean, an ocean filled with all kinds of bugs and it makes us stronger.

To isolate yourself from that exposure makes you weak and vulnerable.

Wearing stupid masks makes you weak and vulnerable.

Only morons wear masks.
 

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Official mexican beer virus death toll in my home county is a whopping 21 out of a population of 150.5k

21 / 150500 = 0.0001386138614

Yeah, almost nobody wears masks in these parts and with a death rate around 0.013% I don't see that changing anytime soon.

It's no wonder the propagandists and fear pornographers have switched from talking about death rates to new cases. I was told there was a "deadly second wave" underway...yet even the official numbers are tanking. What is it we're all supposed to be afraid of again?

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For anyone that has a local ordinance to wear masks, make sure your read it. Most will likely contain "outs". Know what your ordinance actually says.

My county "outs" are both religious and medical. County just north of me has only medical. If confronted by bully mask wearers you will know the local law and be able to claim your "out".

On GIM Post facts with your opinions. Many studies to be found in the politics corona news thread. Good luck and keep fighting.
 

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Good message, except this part is not quite sufficient:



Many people (perhaps all) are infectious a day or two before they show any symptoms. Other people may be infectious without ever having symptoms. That means anyone who was within talking distance of someone else could be infected but not yet know it. The best way to protect healthy people from infection by those who do not yet know they are infected is for everyone to wear masks to reduce the risk from infectious droplets.
There has been little proof of the asymptomatic spreaders. If you want sick people to wear a mask, ok. But then again everyone demands they stay home for 2 weeks. So what is the point of them again?
 

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Can they stop a fart? Then send me a box as this old folks home is getting a little salty.