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RAW: US accumulating troops at border with Mexico as Operation Faithful Patriot continues
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Published on Oct 31, 2018
A C-17 Globemaster III arrived at the Kelly Field Annex in San Antonio, Texas, on Wednesday, delivering military personnel and cargo in support of Operation Faithful Patriot to secure the US-Mexico border.

On Monday, US Air Force General Terrence John O'Shaughnessy confirmed that an additional 5,200 troops would join existing border control forces in an effort to beef up security in response to the caravan of migrants from Central America, which is currently journeying towards the United States through Mexico.
 

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  • On Wednesday he claimed the Constitution's 14th Amendment has limits

  • Trump noted that it applies to people 'subject to the jurisdiction' of the U.S., implying that illegal immigrants don't qualify

  • He cited former Democratic Sen. Harry Reid in 1993, complaining that the U.S. offers a citizenship incentive for illegal immigrants to have babies here
He's kinda right on this, isn't he? Every word, phrase and term written into a law has meaning.

14th All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

By my reading it states that when born here, it is in fact possible to not be subject to the jurisdiction thereof. It takes both being born here and being subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Otherwise, why write it that way?

Foreigners subject to some other nation are granted due process under a different part of the 14th. ....nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
That just means they can't just drive them back to the border when first picked up. Ie: they get a day in Court for them to plead their case as to why they entered outside a Port of entry. Same as would happen to any of us were we caught re-entering the country illegally.
 

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This is two days old but if anyone missed the gist of it, here's a summary:

Thread by @unseen1_unseen: "Thread on DOD/DHS press conference today dealing with securing the border. This is the DOD response. For border patrol response see previous […]"

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Trump says border troops could hit 15K, surprising Pentagon

By ZEKE MILLER and ROBERT BURNS, Associated Press
8 hrs ago

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump said Wednesday that the number of military troops deployed to the U.S.-Mexican border could reach 15,000 — roughly double the number the Pentagon said it currently plans for a mission whose dimensions are shifting daily.

The Pentagon said "more than 7,000" troops were being sent to the Southwest border to support the Customs and Border Protection agents. Officials said that number could reach a maximum of about 8,000 under present plans.

The troop numbers have been changing at a dizzying pace, with Trump drawing a hard line on immigration in the lead-up to the midterm elections.

Just last week officials were indicating that about 800 to 1,000 might be sent. On Monday, officials announced that about 5,200 were being deployed. The next day, the Air Force general running the operation said more than the initially announced total were going, and he pointedly rejected a news report that it could reach 14,000, saying that was "not consistent with what's actually being planned."

Gen. Terrence O'Shaughnessy, the commander of U.S. Northern Command, told reporters the number would exceed the initial contingent of 5,200, but he offered no estimate of the eventual total.

Just 24 hours later, Trump thrust new uncertainty into the picture, catching the Pentagon by surprise.

With his eyes squarely on next Tuesday's contests, Trump has rushed a series of immigration declarations, promises and actions as he tries to mobilize supporters to retain Republican control of Congress. His own Republican campaign in 2016 concentrated on border fears, and that's his focus in the final week of the midterm fight.

"As far as the caravan is concerned, our military is out," Trump said. "We have about 5,800. We'll go up to anywhere between 10,000 and 15,000 military personnel on top of Border Patrol, ICE and everybody else at the border."

Later Wednesday, Trump told ABC News, "We have to have a wall of people."

His comments were the latest twist in a story that has pushed the Pentagon unhappily into the political space, prompting questions about whether Defense Secretary Jim Mattis was allowing the military to be leveraged as a political stunt.

"We don't do stunts," Mattis said Wednesday.

Trump rejected the idea he was "fearmongering" or using the issue for political purposes, but his escalating rhetoric in the waning days of the campaign season calls that denial into question. Trump has railed against illegal immigration, including several caravans of migrants from Central America slowly moving toward the U.S. border. The caravan of an estimated 4,000 people is still nearly 1,000 miles (1,600 kilometers) from the border. Several smaller groups, estimated at a combined 1,200 people, are farther away.

Trump insisted the media is underestimating the caravans. "You have caravans coming up that look a lot larger than it's reported actually. I'm pretty good at estimating crowd size. And I'll tell you they look a lot bigger than people would think," he told ABC.

He has also promised to end so-called catch-and-release policies by erecting tent cities to hold those crossing illegally. And this week he is asserting he could act by executive order to unilaterally end birthright citizenship for the children of non-U.S. citizens.

Trump's comments Wednesday left some in the Pentagon scratching their heads. Officials said they had no plans to deploy as many as 15,000 troops. The number conceivably could reach 10,000, counting the 2,100 National Guard soldiers who have been operating along the border for months as part of a separate but related mission. The number of active-duty troops tapped for deployment stood at 7,000 as of Wednesday but could reach 8,000.

A deployment of 15,000 would bring the military commitment on the border to roughly the same level as in war-torn Afghanistan. And it would more than double the number of people thought to be in the caravans.

Trump did not back down Wednesday from his controversial proposal to upend the very concept of American citizenship. In a morning tweet, he said the right to citizenship for babies born to non-citizens on American soil "will be ended one way or the other."

He also claimed that what he terms "so-called Birthright Citizenship" is "not covered by the 14th Amendment."

However, the text of the amendment's opening Citizenship Clause is this: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." The citizenship proposal would inevitably spark a long-shot legal battle over whether the president can alter the long-accepted understanding that the 14th Amendment grants citizenship to any child born on U.S. soil, regardless of his parents' immigration status.

Speaker of the House Paul Ryan asserted Tuesday that "obviously" Trump could not upend that policy by executive order, drawing a tweeted rebuke from Trump. He said Wednesday that Ryan "should be focusing on holding the Majority rather than giving his opinions on Birthright Citizenship, something he knows nothing about!"

Speaking to reporters before leaving the White House for a campaign rally in Florida, Trump compared his plan to act by executive order to President Barack Obama's much-maligned decision to use executive action to provide protections from prosecution and a path to work status for some people brought to the U.S. illegally as children.

"If he can do DACA, we can do this by executive order," Trump said, using the acronym for the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. Trump and his Justice Department have argued that Obama action was unlawful.

Trump and many top aides have long seen the immigration issue as the most effective rallying cry for his base of supporters. The president had been expected to announce new actions at the border on Tuesday, but that was scrapped so he could travel instead to Pittsburgh, where 11 people were massacred Saturday in a synagogue during Sabbath services.

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Trump’s moves on immigration roil midterm campaign for both parties

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President Trump’s vows to end birthright citizenship and dispatch a growing number of troops to the border have scrambled the final days of the midterm campaign for both parties — repelling moderate House Republicans in swing districts but prompting some red-state Senate Democrats to align themselves with Trump’s hard-line stances.

Those shifting alliances reflect how much Trump — while his party would like to focus on the economy and Democrats want the on spotlight health care — has dictated the rhetorical terms of the campaign. Trump on Wednesday launched a six-day, eight-state swing that will take him to conservative states as he seeks to retain GOP control of the Senate — with immigration sure to remain front and center.

Trump’s anti-immigration rhetoric propelled him to the GOP presidential nomination and the White House in 2016, and he is counting on similarly inflammatory words and images to help the GOP hold its congressional majorities.

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The president tweeted a video Wednesday that featured Luis Bracamontes, a Mexican immigrant in the United States illegally who was sentenced to death this year after he was convicted of killing two police officers in California — using the image to make the demand: “Vote Republican now!”

Before taking off for a campaign swing to Fort Myers, Fla., Trump also floated the idea of deploying as many as 15,000 troops to the border — just days after the Pentagon said it would send about 5,200 active-duty troops there, in addition to the 2,000 National Guard members already present. He also claimed without evidence that the population of immigrants in the country illegally could be as large as 25 million or 30 million. The nonpartisan Migration Policy Institute puts the estimated size of the undocumented population at 11.3 million.

Trump also dismissed suggestions that he was fearmongering with his increasingly aggressive immigration rhetoric, such as his frequent references to a caravan of migrants heading north, including many destitute families, that is still hundreds of miles south of the U.S.-Mexico border.

“Oh they’ll be here fast. They’re trying to get up any way they can,” Trump told reporters shortly before leaving for the first of his 11 campaign rallies through Election Day. “We’re going to be prepared. They’re not coming into our country.”

At the rally, Trump told the crowd that “we’re getting prepared for the caravan, folks.”

“You don’t have to worry about that,” he said. Providing no evidence, Trump continued: “They’ve got a lot of rough people in that caravan. They are not angels.”

Trump’s legally questionable call to revoke birthright citizenship through a unilateral executive order has drawn opposition from House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) — prompting a presidential rebuke Wednesday, delivered via Twitter — as well as rejections from House Republicans in competitive reelection contests, such as Reps. Mike Coffman (R-Colo.) and Carlos Curbelo (R-Fla.).

But another Republican candidate in a closely contested House race, Maria Elvira Salazar, said Wednesday that the clause of the 14th Amendment that provides the constitutional underpinning for birthright citizenship “needs to be reviewed,” according to the Miami Herald.

“I think the president is saying what I think my community shares, the fact that we do not want abuses,” said Salazar, who is running for election in the district that is being vacated by retiring congresswoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) — and that Democrat Hillary Clinton won in 2016 by 19 percentage points. “The Constitution says very clearly that those that are born here are citizens, but we need to see to what extent.”

On the Democratic side, Sen. Joe Donnelly (D-Ind.), a moderate running for reelection in a conservative state, appeared to leave the door open to legislation that would end birthright citizenship, the concept that nearly anyone born on American soil is automatically a citizen of the United States.

“We have to take a look at that legislation,” Donnelly said during a debate Tuesday evening about a bill that would revoke the right, adding, “I’d want to see that legislation and make sure it was constitutional and review it first.”

Asked about those comments Wednesday, Donnelly’s campaign released a statement from the senator saying the 14th Amendment is “clear” — and “what’s also clear is that our immigration system is broken.”

“As I have done in the past, I will work with both parties to find a solution that secures our borders and fixes our broken immigration laws,” Donnelly said.

But Donnelly is far from the lone Democratic Senate candidate in recent days to adopt immigration stances that seem almost Trumpian in nature.

In an interview with Fox News on Monday, Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) urged Trump to “use every tool he has at his disposal” to halt the caravan of migrants traveling north to the United States, adding, “I 100 percent back him up on that.”

Calling for a speedier process for migrants seeking asylum, McCaskill said, “I do not want our borders overrun, and I support the president’s efforts to make sure they’re not.”

And in Tennessee, Democrat Phil Bredesen released an ad Tuesday that promoted his decision as governor more than a decade ago to deploy 1,600 members of the Tennessee National Guard to the southern border. That ad was accompanied by an op-ed in the Tennessean that warned both parties against using the caravan issue to “inflame passions” over the sensitive topic.

“Actions speak louder than words,” the ad says. “In 2006, when the president said he needed help to secure the border, Tennessee Governor Phil Bredesen didn’t wait to be asked. And he didn’t play any politics.”

Immigration has become an increasingly central issue for the GOP in other closely watched Senate races. A CNN poll released Wednesday showed that immigration is now the top issue for Republican voters in Nevada and Arizona, with 42 percent of Republicans in Nevada now saying immigration is the most important issue in their Senate vote, while 50 percent in Arizona say the same.

In Tennessee, immigration has risen to the second-most-important issue for voters there in internal Republican polling, according to one official with knowledge of the numbers.

“I’m not surprised to see the scramble [among Democrats]. I think at this stage, it’s a little inauthentic,” said GOP strategist Josh Holmes, a former chief of staff to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). Immigration “has a significant resonance within the base of the Republican Party, but it has more independent pull than one would think.”

The contrast between the parties has become sharper this year, Holmes added, particularly as leading Democratic politicians increasingly embraced liberal positions on immigration, such as abolishing the federal agency that enforces U.S. immigration laws.

Tyler Moran, the director of the Immigration Hub, which advises a wide range of progressive organizations on immigration policy, said that the moderates taking a more conservative tack on immigration were the outliers and that congressional and gubernatorial candidates nationwide were largely “rejecting Trump’s strategy of lies and division.”

“First of all, every single one of those Democrats voted for immigration reform,” said Moran, who worked on immigration issues under then-Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) and in the Obama White House. “Yes, in their tough races, I wouldn’t agree with the way they’re approaching this. But we have a big-tent approach to immigration.”

Democratic officials also said that moderates in closely watched Senate races this fall have long touted their border-security bona fides — far before Trump amped up his focus on the issue as part of his closing argument in the midterms.

“Among Republicans, we’ve certainly seen that immigration more regularly tops the list of issues,” said Lauren Passalacqua, the communications director at the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. “But I think what we have seen that is consistent is that among independents, obviously Democrats but even among Republicans, the Venn diagram is still health care.”

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Caravan's plea for buses is DENIED: Migrants must walk the remaining 900 miles to nearest US...

FULL TITLE: Caravan's plea for buses is DENIED: Migrants must walk the remaining 900 miles to nearest US border as Mexico ignores demand for transport

Exhausted men, women and children traveling in the largest of the four caravans headed to the US resumed their journey on foot before dawn Thursday after Mexican authorities refused to provide them with buses.

The migrants planned to take advantage of cool overnight and morning temperatures by hitting the road at 3am in Juchitan for a trek to the town of Matias Romero en route to the Gulf coast city of Veracruz, which is a common transit route toward the nearest Mexico-US border crossing in McAllen, Texas.

Organizers previously said their destination was Santa Maria Jalape del Marques in Oaxaca state, but they have decided to change the planned route.

The migrants will have to walk nearly 40 miles from Juchitan to Matias Romero, and from there it's another 445 miles to Veracruz.

The participants of the 4,000-strong caravan have not said what route they intend to take northward or where on the US border they planned to reach, and Juchitan, still about 900 miles from US soil, was something of a crossroads.

Choosing Jalapa del Marques as the next stop appeared to indicate they are opting to travel via Oaxaca state's eponymous capital instead of turning north toward the Gulf coast state of Veracruz, which is a common transit route toward McAllen, Texas.

On Wednesday evening it became clear that Mexican officials were not acceding to the caravan's demand that dozens of buses be provided to whisk the migrants to Mexico City.

'The attempt to travel by bus failed,' caravan coordinator Walter Cuello acknowledged.


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Trump’s Falsehood-Laden Speech on Immigration

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What Trump said:

“We’re not letting them into our country. And then they never show up, almost, it’s like a level of 3 percent. They never show up for the trial. So by the time their trial comes, they’re gone, nobody knows where they are.”

False.

President Trump was referring to the rate that migrants show up to immigration court proceedings after being apprehended and released into the United States. Data from the Justice Department shows that most immigrants do, in fact, show up to their court hearings.

In the 2017 fiscal year, about 28 percent of immigrants failed to attend their court hearings — not the 97 percent Mr. Trump estimated.

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Among asylum seekers, only 11 percent did not show up for legal proceedings. Of the asylum seekers who participated in a pilot program tested as an alternative to detention, 99 percent attended Immigration and Custom Enforcement check-ins and appointments. And 100 percent turned up for court hearings.

The Trump administration ended the pilot program last June.

What Trump said:

“We can’t get any Democrat votes to change them. It’s only the Republicans that are in unison they want to change them. They want to make strong borders.”

This is misleading

Citing immigration laws that he said “are so bad,” Mr. Trump accused Democrats of causing overhaul legislation to fizzle in Congress. Left unsaid was that disarray among the Republican Party partly contributed to the bills’ demise.

In February, after Mr. Trump moved to rescind protections for the young immigrants known as Dreamers, the Senate rejected three immigration proposals. Fourteen Republican senators voted against the one that was backed by the White House; it received the least support from the president’s own party than any of the three.

After a public outcry over the Trump administration’s zero-tolerance immigration policy that resulted in migrant children being separated from their families after crossing the border, the House rejected a hard-line immigration bill in June that was backed by the White House. Forty-one Republicans voted against it.

What Trump said:

“Nearly 100 percent of heroin in the United States enters through the southern border. Think of that, 100 percent almost of heroin comes in through the southern border, along with roughly 90 percent of cocaine and the majority of meth and a substantial portion of the ultralethal fentanyl killing our youth.”

This requires context.

Mr. Trump is right that most heroin smuggled into the United States enters through the southwest border, according to the Drug Enforcement Administration’s latest National Drug Assessment report.

Most fentanyl enters the United States from packages mailed directly from China, or through Canada from China, according to the report. Though “large volumes” of fentanyl are also smuggled through the southwest border, it tends to be less potent — and costs less — than the packages directly from China.

“We are miserably losing this fight to prevent fentanyl from entering our country and killing our citizens,” the president’s opioids commission reported last November. “We are losing this fight predominately through China.”

The drug agency also noted that the “most common method” of drug smuggling used by criminal organizations is by driving through official American ports of entry — not a migrant caravan of people on foot.

In some of those vehicles, the drugs are kept in concealed compartments; in others, they are mixed among legal goods on tractor-trailers. Smugglers also use tunnels, passenger trains and buses, drug mules and even drones and other aircraft.

What Trump said:

“The Democrat Party’s vision is to offer them free health care, free welfare, free education and even the right to vote.”

This is misleading.

Legal immigrants to the United States can receive some public benefits and have a pathway to citizenship and the right to vote. But that is a matter of law — not merely the political platform or policies of the Democratic Party.

Migrants who are granted asylum are eligible for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, Medicaid and the Supplemental Security Income program. They are also eligible for the cash assistance program known as Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, according to the Congressional Research Service.

Undocumented immigrants are not eligible for most public programs and cannot vote. While a 2013 Senate bill to overhaul the immigration system would have allowed undocumented immigrants who had arrived in the United States before December 2011 to apply for citizenship, the House never voted on the legislation. Mr. Trump’s own “four pillars” for immigration reform also included a pathway to citizenship for Dreamers.

What Trump said:

“Nobody talks about that, but under President Obama, they separated children from the parents.”

This is misleading.

As The New York Times has reported, previous presidential administrations did break up families — but did so rarely, according to former officials and immigration experts. The Trump administration, by contrast, has knowingly enacted the practice that some officials have characterized as a deterrence against illegal entry.

What Trump said:

“And once that control is set and standardized and made very strong, including the building of the wall, which we’ve already started. $1.6 billion spent last year, $1.6 billion this year. We have another $1.6 that will be coming, but we want to build it at one time.”

This is misleading.

A spending bill signed by Mr. Trump in March allotted $1.6 billion for projects to replace old barriers along the border with new ones. But that bill did not allow spending funds on a new border wall.

Mr. Trump signed another spending bill in late September, which did not include any money for his border wall — a fact he seemed aware of, given his criticisms over the lack of funding.

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First 100 troops arrive at US-Mexico border to meet the caravan after Trump orders them to SHOOT migrants before telling Missouri rally 'these are not angels and we are not letting them in'

  • Some 7,000 military members will arrive at the border through the weekend
  • Trump issued a dire to would-be immigrants with the caravan saying that the troops would return fire if rocks are thrown at them
  • The 4,000-strong caravan will depart from Matias Romero, Mexico, early Friday and make its way toward Veracruz, stopping in Donaji or Sayula de Aleman
  • Federal police in Mexico have done little to stop the caravan headed for the US
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Trump says troops will not fire on migrant caravan

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WASHINGTON - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Friday that illegal immigrants who throw rocks at the military would be arrested, but not fired upon by troops.

He made the remarks to reporters one day after he suggested the military could fire on members of a migrant caravan if they throw rocks at troops.

They won't have to fire. What I don't want is I don't want these people throwing rocks," Trump told reporters outside the White House.

"If they do that with us, they're going to be arrested for a long time," Trump added.

Trump has hardened his stance on immigration, and specifically against the caravan of migrants, ahead of next week's congressional elections, in which Trump's Republican Party seeks to maintain control of both chambers.

On Monday the Pentagon said it had deployed more than 5,200 troops to the border after Trump said on Twitter he was sending the military to face off against the migrant caravan, a group of men, women and children traveling through Mexico as they flee violence and poverty in Central America.

Trump said on Wednesday the United States could send as many as 15,000 troops to the border, more than are in Afghanistan.

On Thursday, Trump said his administration was finalizing a plan to require asylum seekers to enter the country through legal ports of entry, although it remained unclear whether such a limitation would be legally possible.

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Army assessment of migrant caravans undermines Trump’s rhetoric

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Nick Miroff, Missy Ryan
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Military planners anticipate that only a small percentage of Central American migrants traveling in the caravans President Trump characterizes as “an invasion” will reach the U.S. border, even as a force of more than 7,000 active-duty troops mobilizes to prevent them from entering the United States.

According to military planning documents, about 20 percent of the roughly 7,000 migrants traveling through Mexico are likely to complete the journey. The unclassified report was obtained and published by Newsweek on Thursday. If the military’s assessment is accurate, it would mean the United States is positioning five soldiers on the border for every one caravan member expected to arrive there.

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“Based on historic trends, it is assessed that only a small percentage of the migrants will likely reach the border,” the report says. It was prepared by U.S. Army North, a component of U.S. Northern Command, which oversees the mission dubbed Operation Faithful Patriot.

The assessment also indicates military planners are concerned about the presence of “unregulated armed militia” groups showing up at the border in areas where U.S. troops will operate.

The Washington Post was unable to independently confirm the report’s authenticity. Reached Friday, military officials did not dispute its veracity but declined to address questions about its contents.

Seizing on immigration as his main campaign theme ahead of Tuesday’s midterm elections, Trump has depicted the caravans — at least four have formed, though they remain hundreds of miles away — as a grave danger to U.S. national security, claiming they are composed of “unknown Middle Easterners,” hardened criminals and “very tough fighters.” He also insists the number of migrants heading north is much larger than estimates put forward by U.S. and Mexican government officials.

The military assessment does not support any of those claims.

The report, dated Oct. 27, notes that caravan members areunlikely to arrive for at least two to four weeks.

Among those traveling are “limited #s of Bangladeshi, Haitian and African individuals,” it reads. It makes no mention of Middle Eastern countries.

In the military planners’ most likely scenario, the caravans will continue to dwindle in size as they move north with “no terrorist infiltration,” potentially causing a “balloon effect” on smuggling activity as traffickers attempt to exploit the diversion created by Trump’s focus on the migrants.

In its “most dangerous” assessment, the caravan would “grow markedly” and become exploited by terrorists and traffickers, leading to increasing “cross border engagements.” The assessment does not assign a numerical probability to those scenarios.

Trump said this week he wants to send as many as 15,000 troops to the border to prepare for the caravans. The deployment appears to be the largest such peacetime mobilization of active-duty U.S. troops at the border in at least a century.

High on the list of potential dangers facing U.S. personnel, according to the military’s assessment, is the presence of “unregulated militia members self-deploying to the border in alleged support” to U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

It estimates 200 militia members could show up while troops are in the area.

“They operate under the guise of citizen patrols,” the report reads, warning of “incidents of unregulated militias stealing National Guard equipment during deployments.”

The assessment does not go into further detail about those incidents, but Border Patrol officials have also warned landowners in the area about the possibility of gun-carrying militias on their property in the coming weeks.

Protesters and “anarchists” arriving along the border also pose a risk, according to the report. “Previous protests in support of immigration caravans or enforcement of immigration law have occurred throughout the U.S.,” it says. “Normally peaceful unless extreme right or left groups attend.”

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Dan Lamothe contributed to this report.

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Trump Vs. the 14th Amendment: How the Constitutional provision at the center of the president's legal battle to end birth right citizenship was born out of the death of slavery - and hasn't been tested by the courts for 120 years

  • Trump said this week that he will continue in his quest to end birth right citizenship for children of immigrants who entered the country illegally
  • Trump said he plans to issue an executive order that would end the practice
  • A majority of Constitutional scholars question his authority to do so, saying the 14th Amendment guarantees anyone born on U.S. soil will be granted citizenship
  • Trump supporters say that a key phrase in the amendment leaves a loophole allowing for the argument that birth right citizenship only applies to people who owe an allegiance to the U.S. (for example, green card holders and citizens)
  • The 14th Amendment was adopted July 9, 1868 following the American Civil War to address whether or not freed black slaves were citizens of the United States
  • The Supreme Court has upheld birth right citizenship for legal aliens but never tested the issue when applied to immigrants who are in the country illegally
  • If Trump follows through, it would almost certainly face major legal challenges
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'I didn't say shoot!' Trump says he never meant for the military to open fire on the migrant caravan 'invasion' but rock-throwers will 'be arrested for a long time'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...eant-military-open-fire-caravan-invasion.html

The Pentagon rejected request for US troops to assist other law enforcement officials at the US-Mexico border where migrants are seeking to gain asylum
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...oops-perform-crowd-control-Mexico-border.html

Not sure what they're going to really do but I think it's mostly going to be supporting activities.
 

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Not sure what they're going to really do but I think it's mostly going to be supporting activities.
I'm pretty sure that's what they'll be doing. ICE has about 20,000 employees. That sounds like a lot, but they're spread out in many locations and it's not as though they can all just drop everything and head to the border. Stuff still needs to be done where they are. I could be wrong, but I'm thinkin' they'll (troops) will be doing support in order to free up as many border patrol/ICE people for hands-on enforcement as possible.
 

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Remember the case when the border patrol cop shot some rock throwing Mexican kid at the border?

Border Patrol Agent Retrial In Rocks Versus Gun Shooting - LEO Round Table episode 701
LEO Round Table


Published on Nov 2, 2018
01:17 Border Patrol agent retried in rocks vs gun fatal shooting
07:20 Border Patrol agent indicted for trafficking cocaine on-duty

LEO Round Table (law enforcement talk show)

Episode 701 filmed on 10/29/2018

Chip DeBlock (Host)
Kevin Bouis (Attorney)
David D'Agresta (retired Corporal)
John Newman (retired Assistant Chief)
Rick Ubinas ( active Lieutenant)

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Topic 1 concerns Border Patrol Agent Lonnie Swartz who is being retried on manslaughter charges in the cross-border fatal shooting of 16-year-old Mexican Jose Antonio Elena Rodriguez. Rodriguez is suspected of being one of two drug mules who started throwing rocks at border patrol agents and hitting them. Assistant U.S. Attorney Wallace Kleindienst and U.S. District Judge Raner Collins are referenced in the story.

https://www.policeone.com/border-patr...

Topic 2 concerns indicted Border Patrol Agent Ramon Antonio Monreal Rodriguez who is accused of paying drug smugglers $650,000 for cocaine while on-duty.

https://www.policeone.com/border-patr...
 

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Remember the case when the border patrol cop shot some rock throwing Mexican kid at the border?
So what are they supposed to do in that situation? Run away and leave the drug mules to do their thing? Is that the proper response? That's certainly what the drug mules would have wanted.
They were being hit with rocks. A thrown rock can be a deadly thing if it hits ya in the head. Or should Mexicans be permitted to throw rocks at people on our side of the border?
 

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So what are they supposed to do in that situation? Run away and leave the drug mules to do their thing? Is that the proper response?
Damned if I know.
 

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Former Republican sheriff Joe Arpaio says he is being 'unfairly blamed' for detaining and releasing the Mexican illegal immigrant who bragged about killing cops in a political ad promoted by Trump

  • Political ad from President Donald Trump shows Mexican immigrant bragging about killing police officers has put the spotlight back on Joe Arpaio
  • Luis Bracamontes was also incarcerated four times in jails run by Arpaio, a Republican who is known for his crackdowns on illegal immigration
  • Bracamontes was convicted of murder in the 2014 shooting deaths of two sheriff's deputies in California while he was in the United States illegally
  • Arpaio is the former six-term sheriff of metro Phoenix
  • He was the first person to receive a pardon from Trump in a contempt of court conviction for disobeying a court order in an immigration case
  • Trump blames Democrats for weak laws that allowed the man across the border, but he was deported during Bill Clinton and George W. Bush administrations
  • Democrats and Republicans denounced the ad, which links Bracamontes' crimes to a caravan of Central American migrants moving through Mexico, as racist
  • Arpaio said Friday that he hasn't seen the ad and didn't remember the details of the cases
  • He said he's a convenient target for people looking to criticize the president and pinned the blame on federal immigration authorities for dropping the ball
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...releasing-immigrant-bragged-killing-cops.html
 

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Migrant caravan splinters 700 miles away from U.S. border as exhausted Central Americans fume at Mexican officials who reneged on promise of buses to Mexico City

  • Migrant caravan made up mostly of Hondurans splits up in Veracruz
  • Region's governor offered buses to take them to Mexico City, but then reneged
  • Migrants reach Mexican town of Isla, which is 700 miles south of U.S. border
  • They plan to spend the night in Isla before leaving at 5am Sunday for Cordoba
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Trump asks Supreme Court to rule NOW on his decision to abolish DACA in dramatic escalation of attack on Obama's program for 'dreamers'

  • Trump administration asks for Supreme Court to rule immediately on Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program instead of waiting for a lower court
  • Move ups the temperature on immigration again ahead of Tuesday's midterm election
  • White House is likely motivated to move on ending DACA - a key Trump pledge in 2016 - by Brett Kavanaugh tilting court to 5-4 conservative majority
  • DACA stops deportation for children brought illegally to the U.S. and in some cases for illegal immigrant parents of citizen children

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ion-asks-high-court-fast-track-DACA-case.html
 

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Texas homeowner is arrested after firing his gun to 'scare off' illegal immigrants who ran onto his property after crossing the border

  • Enrique Fernandez, 56, fired his gun three times in an apparent attempt to scare the migrants on Thursday
  • He claims border patrol agent 'chased' them onto his Brownsville property
  • The agents heard the gunshots and called the local sheriff's department
  • Their officers responded and arrested Fernandez for unlawfully firing his gun
  • He has since been charged with illegal possession because he is an ex-convict
  • He was sentenced t 23 years in prison on a drug charge after being arrested in the 90s
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...sted-firing-gun-scare-illegal-immigrants.html
 

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Trump to make asylum changes as soon as Friday


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By Ted Hesson and Andrew Restuccia
5 hrs ago


President Donald Trump plans to take executive action, possibly as early as Friday, to limit the ability of migrants to seek asylum at the southwest border, an administration official confirmed Wednesday.

Trump signaled last week that he would issue a “comprehensive” directive in the coming days that deals with immigration.

The president fumed in the run-up to the midterm elections over a group of Central American migrants traveling through Mexico en route to the United States. Republican voters considered immigration a major issue in the elections — and Trump hammered home the message that the caravan amounted to an “invasion” on the southwest border.

The administration has considered a fast-track regulation paired with a presidential proclamation to block asylum seekers, POLITICO reported last month.

A working group of administration officials met Wednesday to discuss possible moves, according to a Homeland Security Department official with knowledge of the gathering.

The group weighed restricting the ability of people caught between ports of entry to make a “credible fear” claim, the first step in an asylum application, the official said. Another option would be to apply a different credible fear standard to those migrants.

The Wall Street Journal first reported that the move could come before Trump departs for a trip to Paris on Friday.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tr...anges-as-soon-as-friday/ar-BBPsMOq?ocid=ientp
 

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The group weighed restricting the ability of people caught between ports of entry to make a “credible fear” claim, the first step in an asylum application, the official said. Another option would be to apply a different credible fear standard to those migrants.
The proper and correct option would be to deny all asylum claims for those people.

If these people are truly wanting asylum for legitimate reasons, there's no reason they would not go to an official port of entry. The ones crying asylum only after being caught illegally entering the country are only doing so as a tactic to delay their deportation.
 

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Times past that we need to say fk u to the UN and get out of it.
 

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Rush today said they are setting up the next caravan to come here. It will contain 5 MILLION people. The progressives are getting their way, they might go for it all.
 

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https://apnews.com/9515542f7651432dbf072a9098e48230

Migrants fearful, anxious in aftermath of Tijuana protests
By JULIE WATSON and MARK STEVENSON2 hours ago



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Drivers wait to cross the Mexico-U.S. border from Tijuana, Mexico, Monday, Nov. 19, 2018. The United States closed off northbound traffic for several hours at the busiest border crossing with Mexico to install new security barriers on Monday, a day after hundreds of Tijuana residents protested against the presence of thousands of Central American migrants. (AP Photo/Rodrigo Abd)





TIJUANA, Mexico (AP) — Many Central American migrants camped in Tijuana after crossing Mexico in a caravan said Monday that a protest over the weekend by residents demanding they leave frightened them and left them even more anxious while they try to get into the United States.

The angry protests have been fed by concerns raised by President Donald Trump’s month-long warnings that criminals and gang members are in the group and even terrorists, though there is no evidence of that.

About 500 people demonstrated in an affluent section of Tijuana on Sunday against the caravan. Dozens of protesters then marched to an outdoor sports complex near downtown where 2,500 migrants are staying, sleeping on dirt fields and under bleachers after arriving at the border city a week ago.

Dulce Alvarado, 28, from Lempira, Honduras, said she was stepping out of a corner grocery near the complex carrying her 2-year-old son when she was surrounded by the demonstrators chanting “Get out!” and “We don’t want you here!”
“I was very scared,” Alvarado said.

A Tijuana police officer saw them in the crowd and helped them get out and behind police tape marking off the block where the sports complex is located. The protest eventually ended peacefully. On Monday, a Mexican holiday, streets were quiet with many businesses near the complex closed.

Tensions have built as nearly 3,000 migrants from the caravan poured into Tijuana in recent days after more than a month on the road — and with many more months likely ahead of them while they seek asylum in the U.S. The federal government estimates the number of migrants could soon swell to 10,000.


Honduran Migrant Glenia Cruz feeds her daughter Aisley, at a shelter in Tijuana, Mexico. (AP Photo/Rodrigo Abd)

Mexico’s ambassador to the U.S., Geronimo Gutierrez, told reporters Monday that the situation is a “wake-up call” for the U.S., Mexico and Central America that could force the region to work together to address the difficult issue of immigration.

U.S. border inspectors are processing only about 100 asylum claims a day at Tijuana’s main crossing to San Diego. Asylum seekers register their names in a tattered notebook managed by the migrants themselves that had more than 3,000 names even before the caravan arrived.

For most of this city of 1.6 million, the arrival of thousands of Central Americans is not noticeable. Most migrants stay within a three-block radius of the sports complex that faces the towering metal walls topped with barbed wire at the U.S.-Mexico border.

But many residents fear with the passage of time their presence will take its toll and crime could go up. Since 2016, thousands of Haitians who also tried to get to the U.S. ended up settling here, while at the same time, Tijuana has taken in thousands of Mexicans deported from the United States.

Tijuana also has been struggling with drug violence and some say they do not want the caravan bringing more problems.

Sandra Lucia Montanez, 28, a Tijuana psychologist, said news reports last month of Central Americans storming Mexico’s southern border fed the fears. But, she said, it’s important that Tijuana not forget it is a city of migrants.
“Almost no one here is from Tijuana,” Montanez said. “We have to help the neediest ones. They come from countries with a lot of poverty. Honduras is worse off than Mexico.”

The United States has dramatically increased border security in preparation for the caravan’s arrival, closing lanes at ports of entry to place cement barriers topped with razor wire that can be quickly moved to block passage should there be a mass number who try to force their way into the country.


Workers add barbed wire to the U.S. border fence in San Ysidro, California. (AP Photo/Marco Ugarte)

But the lane closures have also made it harder for cross-border residents to go back and forth into the U.S. to work and shop. The San Ysidro port of entry is one of the world’s busiest border crossings, with more than 40,000 vehicles and 34,000 pedestrians using it daily.

On Monday, U.S. authorities closed off northbound traffic for several hours and closed a pedestrian lane at the crossing to install more security barriers, after a tip that people were gathering in Tijuana to rush the border checkpoints.

“Waiting until a large group of persons mass at the border to attempt an illegal crossing is too late for us,” said Pete Flores, director of field operations for Customs and Border Protection in San Diego.

Demonstrators at Sunday’s protest complained that some migrants have been aggressive, yelling insults at U.S. Border Patrol agents and climbing walls and getting into fights at Tijuana’s Pacific beach.

But Tijuana police officer Victor Coronel, who has overseen security outside the sports complex where the migrants are staying, said those fears are based on the bad behavior of only a handful of migrants.

“The problem is that there has been bad information circulating on social media, with videos of two or three migrants acting badly, climbing the wall or grabbing food in stores,” said Coronel, adding that most are poor people simply trying to find work.

Coronel said he hopes as time passes, many will opt to go home or find jobs in Mexico and integrate into society.
Lesbia Navarro, 36, stayed inside the stadium with her four children ages 3 to 16 as they listened to the shouts and insults from the protesters Sunday.

“We only want to be here awhile, until we can get into the United States to work,” said Navarro, of Choloma, Honduras. “We don’t want to cause anybody problems.”

The Tijuana protests came amid what may be a hardening of positions in some northern Mexican states against the migrants. In Jalisco state, which the caravan passed through on its way to Tijuana, officials said they would no longer open shelters, citing problems with fights involving migrants last week.


A newly erected barrier wall stands amid cars at the Mexico-U.S. border, as they wait in line to enter the U.S., as they leave Tijuana, Mexico, Monday, Nov. 19, 2018. (AP Photo/Marco Ugarte)

Instead, the state will provide water, some food and escorts at nine points along the main highway through the state to help ensure the migrants don’t have to stop.

Tijuana Mayor Juan Manuel Gastelum has called the migrants’ arrival an “avalanche” that the city is ill-prepared to handle, calculating that they will be in Tijuana for at least six months as they wait to file asylum claims.

Gastelum has appealed to the federal government for more assistance to cope with the influx — while more migrants continue to head to the U.S.-Mexico border.

Trump used Twitter on Sunday to voice support for the mayor. He wrote that like Tijuana, “the U.S. is ill-prepared for this invasion, and will not stand for it. They are causing crime and big problems in Mexico. Go home!”
He followed that tweet by writing: “Catch and Release is an obsolete term. It is now Catch and Detain. Illegal Immigrants trying to come into the U.S.A., often proudly flying the flag of their nation as they ask for U.S. Asylum, will be detained or turned away.”
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Stevenson contributed from Mexico City. Associated Press writer Marcos Aleman in San Salvador contributed to this report.
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This story has been corrected to show that Alvarado was coming out of a store near a sports complex, not a stadium.
 

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At a hearing earlier on Monday, American Civil Liberties Union attorney Lee Gelernt said the order clearly conflicted with the Immigration and Nationality Act, which allows any person present in the United States to seek asylum, regardless of how they entered the country.
Something tells me, that the ACLU should be renamed the Central America Civil Liberties Union. They are standing up for the rights of illigal aliens, than standing up for the citizens of the US.

So who is in these caravans??? Terrorists? Drug Cartel members? Rapists? Contagious disease carriers (ebola, etc.).

Unbelievable. Illegal aliens have a right to come into this country and claim asylum. Will end up supported by taxpayer funded public assistance, too.

Build the Wall and make no apology for it!
 

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Let The Bodies Hit The Floor

we didn't start the fire but we can put it out

Let The Bodies Hit The Floor

 

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In the statement Saturday night, Sánchez Cordero explained that the next administration does not have any plans to make Mexico a "third safe country" for migrants.
Then they shouldn't have allowed them into their nation to begin with. Mexico let them in because they knew they only wanted passage to America. If these people had come with the intention of living illegally in Mexico, they'd have been arrested and deported. Ie: Mexico is facilitating these people and their intentions to illegally enter the US.
 

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They were immediately arrested by American Border Patrol guards and planned to claim political asylum
When caught, claiming asylum has become a standard last ditch effort to avoid deportation and is the only reason they claim it. If they hadn't been caught, they would have simply disappeared.

Is anyone really dumb enough to believe that they had every intention of illegally entering the country only to directly report to immigration officials so they could claim asylum?
 

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Trump warns Democrats he'll 'close the entire Southern Border' if they don't fund his wall as he signals Bush's death won't get in the way of his immigration demands

  • Many govt. agencies are scheduled to run out of money Friday at midnight
  • Congress and the president must agree on a new funding proposal
  • Trump wants $5 billion to fund his border wall; Democrats in no mood to deal
  • President George H.W. bush died Friday night and he will lie in state in the U.S. Capitol beginning on Monday afternoon
  • President Trump said he's willing to sign a two-week extension of current spending levels

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...der-dont-fund-wall-despite-Bushs-passing.html
Trump fucked up when he caved on last budget, now theres a two week extension, he will cave again, no 5b for wall, no obama crime family prosecutions, he will not get a second term. Failed on two biggest campaign promises
 

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Illegal entry is a federal misdemeanor, and those who plead guilty under Streamline are generally sentenced to time served and then handed back to immigration officials for deportation or asylum processing, depending on the individual case.
Or in other words, no punishment at all.


"I made such a big effort to get here. I'm scared of getting caught and being deported," Mejilla said. "If there is no other way to go to the U.S., I will cross like them."
Or in other words, give Mejilla what he wants or he'll just take it anyways.


Church sparks controversy by putting Baby Jesus in a CAGE in nativity scene to highlight Trump's policy of splitting immigrant families at the border
What a bunch of f'ing idiots.