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The group weighed restricting the ability of people caught between ports of entry to make a “credible fear” claim, the first step in an asylum application, the official said. Another option would be to apply a different credible fear standard to those migrants.
The proper and correct option would be to deny all asylum claims for those people.

If these people are truly wanting asylum for legitimate reasons, there's no reason they would not go to an official port of entry. The ones crying asylum only after being caught illegally entering the country are only doing so as a tactic to delay their deportation.
 

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Times past that we need to say fk u to the UN and get out of it.
 

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Rush today said they are setting up the next caravan to come here. It will contain 5 MILLION people. The progressives are getting their way, they might go for it all.
 

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What we need is a republican majority in the congress then Trump could get his programs passed.
 

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https://apnews.com/9515542f7651432dbf072a9098e48230

Migrants fearful, anxious in aftermath of Tijuana protests
By JULIE WATSON and MARK STEVENSON2 hours ago



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Drivers wait to cross the Mexico-U.S. border from Tijuana, Mexico, Monday, Nov. 19, 2018. The United States closed off northbound traffic for several hours at the busiest border crossing with Mexico to install new security barriers on Monday, a day after hundreds of Tijuana residents protested against the presence of thousands of Central American migrants. (AP Photo/Rodrigo Abd)





TIJUANA, Mexico (AP) — Many Central American migrants camped in Tijuana after crossing Mexico in a caravan said Monday that a protest over the weekend by residents demanding they leave frightened them and left them even more anxious while they try to get into the United States.

The angry protests have been fed by concerns raised by President Donald Trump’s month-long warnings that criminals and gang members are in the group and even terrorists, though there is no evidence of that.

About 500 people demonstrated in an affluent section of Tijuana on Sunday against the caravan. Dozens of protesters then marched to an outdoor sports complex near downtown where 2,500 migrants are staying, sleeping on dirt fields and under bleachers after arriving at the border city a week ago.

Dulce Alvarado, 28, from Lempira, Honduras, said she was stepping out of a corner grocery near the complex carrying her 2-year-old son when she was surrounded by the demonstrators chanting “Get out!” and “We don’t want you here!”
“I was very scared,” Alvarado said.

A Tijuana police officer saw them in the crowd and helped them get out and behind police tape marking off the block where the sports complex is located. The protest eventually ended peacefully. On Monday, a Mexican holiday, streets were quiet with many businesses near the complex closed.

Tensions have built as nearly 3,000 migrants from the caravan poured into Tijuana in recent days after more than a month on the road — and with many more months likely ahead of them while they seek asylum in the U.S. The federal government estimates the number of migrants could soon swell to 10,000.


Honduran Migrant Glenia Cruz feeds her daughter Aisley, at a shelter in Tijuana, Mexico. (AP Photo/Rodrigo Abd)

Mexico’s ambassador to the U.S., Geronimo Gutierrez, told reporters Monday that the situation is a “wake-up call” for the U.S., Mexico and Central America that could force the region to work together to address the difficult issue of immigration.

U.S. border inspectors are processing only about 100 asylum claims a day at Tijuana’s main crossing to San Diego. Asylum seekers register their names in a tattered notebook managed by the migrants themselves that had more than 3,000 names even before the caravan arrived.

For most of this city of 1.6 million, the arrival of thousands of Central Americans is not noticeable. Most migrants stay within a three-block radius of the sports complex that faces the towering metal walls topped with barbed wire at the U.S.-Mexico border.

But many residents fear with the passage of time their presence will take its toll and crime could go up. Since 2016, thousands of Haitians who also tried to get to the U.S. ended up settling here, while at the same time, Tijuana has taken in thousands of Mexicans deported from the United States.

Tijuana also has been struggling with drug violence and some say they do not want the caravan bringing more problems.

Sandra Lucia Montanez, 28, a Tijuana psychologist, said news reports last month of Central Americans storming Mexico’s southern border fed the fears. But, she said, it’s important that Tijuana not forget it is a city of migrants.
“Almost no one here is from Tijuana,” Montanez said. “We have to help the neediest ones. They come from countries with a lot of poverty. Honduras is worse off than Mexico.”

The United States has dramatically increased border security in preparation for the caravan’s arrival, closing lanes at ports of entry to place cement barriers topped with razor wire that can be quickly moved to block passage should there be a mass number who try to force their way into the country.


Workers add barbed wire to the U.S. border fence in San Ysidro, California. (AP Photo/Marco Ugarte)

But the lane closures have also made it harder for cross-border residents to go back and forth into the U.S. to work and shop. The San Ysidro port of entry is one of the world’s busiest border crossings, with more than 40,000 vehicles and 34,000 pedestrians using it daily.

On Monday, U.S. authorities closed off northbound traffic for several hours and closed a pedestrian lane at the crossing to install more security barriers, after a tip that people were gathering in Tijuana to rush the border checkpoints.

“Waiting until a large group of persons mass at the border to attempt an illegal crossing is too late for us,” said Pete Flores, director of field operations for Customs and Border Protection in San Diego.

Demonstrators at Sunday’s protest complained that some migrants have been aggressive, yelling insults at U.S. Border Patrol agents and climbing walls and getting into fights at Tijuana’s Pacific beach.

But Tijuana police officer Victor Coronel, who has overseen security outside the sports complex where the migrants are staying, said those fears are based on the bad behavior of only a handful of migrants.

“The problem is that there has been bad information circulating on social media, with videos of two or three migrants acting badly, climbing the wall or grabbing food in stores,” said Coronel, adding that most are poor people simply trying to find work.

Coronel said he hopes as time passes, many will opt to go home or find jobs in Mexico and integrate into society.
Lesbia Navarro, 36, stayed inside the stadium with her four children ages 3 to 16 as they listened to the shouts and insults from the protesters Sunday.

“We only want to be here awhile, until we can get into the United States to work,” said Navarro, of Choloma, Honduras. “We don’t want to cause anybody problems.”

The Tijuana protests came amid what may be a hardening of positions in some northern Mexican states against the migrants. In Jalisco state, which the caravan passed through on its way to Tijuana, officials said they would no longer open shelters, citing problems with fights involving migrants last week.


A newly erected barrier wall stands amid cars at the Mexico-U.S. border, as they wait in line to enter the U.S., as they leave Tijuana, Mexico, Monday, Nov. 19, 2018. (AP Photo/Marco Ugarte)

Instead, the state will provide water, some food and escorts at nine points along the main highway through the state to help ensure the migrants don’t have to stop.

Tijuana Mayor Juan Manuel Gastelum has called the migrants’ arrival an “avalanche” that the city is ill-prepared to handle, calculating that they will be in Tijuana for at least six months as they wait to file asylum claims.

Gastelum has appealed to the federal government for more assistance to cope with the influx — while more migrants continue to head to the U.S.-Mexico border.

Trump used Twitter on Sunday to voice support for the mayor. He wrote that like Tijuana, “the U.S. is ill-prepared for this invasion, and will not stand for it. They are causing crime and big problems in Mexico. Go home!”
He followed that tweet by writing: “Catch and Release is an obsolete term. It is now Catch and Detain. Illegal Immigrants trying to come into the U.S.A., often proudly flying the flag of their nation as they ask for U.S. Asylum, will be detained or turned away.”
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Stevenson contributed from Mexico City. Associated Press writer Marcos Aleman in San Salvador contributed to this report.
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This story has been corrected to show that Alvarado was coming out of a store near a sports complex, not a stadium.
 

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At a hearing earlier on Monday, American Civil Liberties Union attorney Lee Gelernt said the order clearly conflicted with the Immigration and Nationality Act, which allows any person present in the United States to seek asylum, regardless of how they entered the country.
Something tells me, that the ACLU should be renamed the Central America Civil Liberties Union. They are standing up for the rights of illigal aliens, than standing up for the citizens of the US.

So who is in these caravans??? Terrorists? Drug Cartel members? Rapists? Contagious disease carriers (ebola, etc.).

Unbelievable. Illegal aliens have a right to come into this country and claim asylum. Will end up supported by taxpayer funded public assistance, too.

Build the Wall and make no apology for it!
 

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Let The Bodies Hit The Floor

we didn't start the fire but we can put it out

Let The Bodies Hit The Floor

 

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In the statement Saturday night, Sánchez Cordero explained that the next administration does not have any plans to make Mexico a "third safe country" for migrants.
Then they shouldn't have allowed them into their nation to begin with. Mexico let them in because they knew they only wanted passage to America. If these people had come with the intention of living illegally in Mexico, they'd have been arrested and deported. Ie: Mexico is facilitating these people and their intentions to illegally enter the US.
 

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They were immediately arrested by American Border Patrol guards and planned to claim political asylum
When caught, claiming asylum has become a standard last ditch effort to avoid deportation and is the only reason they claim it. If they hadn't been caught, they would have simply disappeared.

Is anyone really dumb enough to believe that they had every intention of illegally entering the country only to directly report to immigration officials so they could claim asylum?
 

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Trump warns Democrats he'll 'close the entire Southern Border' if they don't fund his wall as he signals Bush's death won't get in the way of his immigration demands

  • Many govt. agencies are scheduled to run out of money Friday at midnight
  • Congress and the president must agree on a new funding proposal
  • Trump wants $5 billion to fund his border wall; Democrats in no mood to deal
  • President George H.W. bush died Friday night and he will lie in state in the U.S. Capitol beginning on Monday afternoon
  • President Trump said he's willing to sign a two-week extension of current spending levels

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...der-dont-fund-wall-despite-Bushs-passing.html
Trump fucked up when he caved on last budget, now theres a two week extension, he will cave again, no 5b for wall, no obama crime family prosecutions, he will not get a second term. Failed on two biggest campaign promises
 

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Illegal entry is a federal misdemeanor, and those who plead guilty under Streamline are generally sentenced to time served and then handed back to immigration officials for deportation or asylum processing, depending on the individual case.
Or in other words, no punishment at all.


"I made such a big effort to get here. I'm scared of getting caught and being deported," Mejilla said. "If there is no other way to go to the U.S., I will cross like them."
Or in other words, give Mejilla what he wants or he'll just take it anyways.


Church sparks controversy by putting Baby Jesus in a CAGE in nativity scene to highlight Trump's policy of splitting immigrant families at the border
What a bunch of f'ing idiots.
 

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“I ask myself, is it possible that this señor thinks we have papers? He knows we don’t speak English,” Ms. Morales said. “Why wouldn’t he figure it out?”
So she intentionally employed deception to get a job, then tries to say, "they should have known I was lying!", really? All she accomplished was outing herself. I hope she likes goin' back to Guatemala. Hey, maybe she can join the next caravan. lol
 

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She said she didn’t have proper documentation, and she used false Social Security and permanent resident cards.
In other words she's a liar, but blames those she deceived for having believed her.


“I ask myself, is it possible that this señor thinks we have papers? He knows we don’t speak English,” Morales told The Times. “Why wouldn’t he figure it out?”
Seems like she's saying we should suspect any non-English speaking people who look like immigrants, as being illegal. Is that what she is saying here? If so, even the illegals agree that we need an "English only" law to weed them out.
 

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So it goes, nothing was unexpected, One of two main promises, does the Donal shut down .gov?


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No money for border wall in exchange for ‘Dreamer’ legal protections, Pelosi says
The Democratic leader takes a hard line as spending bills to fund the government after Dec. 21 advance amid the president's threat of a shutdown over money to build the wall.
By MATTHEW DALYAssociated Press
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WASHINGTON — House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi on Thursday rejected the idea of paying for President Trump’s border wall in exchange for helping hundreds of thousands of young immigrants avoid deportation.
Funding for the wall – a top Trump priority – and legal protections for so-called Dreamers, a key Democratic goal, should not be linked, Pelosi said.



House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi speaks with the media on Thursday in Washington. Pelosi says building a border wall would be immoral. Associated Press/J. Scott Applewhite
“They’re two different subjects,” she said.
Her comments came as the House and Senate approved a stopgap bill Thursday to keep the government funded through Dec. 21. The measure, approved by voice votes in near-empty chambers, now goes to the White House.
Trump has promised to sign the two-week extension to allow for ceremonies this week honoring former President George H.W. Bush, who died last Friday. But he wants the next funding package to include at least $5 billion for his proposed wall, something Democrats have rejected. Trump is set to meet Tuesday at the White House with Pelosi and Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer.
Pelosi, who is seeking to become House speaker in January, said the lame-duck Congress should now pass a half-dozen government funding bills that key committees have already agreed on, along with a separate measure funding the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees the border. Funding for the homeland agency should address border security and does not necessarily include a wall, Pelosi said.
 

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WHAT AN EVIL FUCKING BITCH
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Pelosi Reveals Plan to Avoid Government Shutdown With No Wall Funding
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Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California is likely to become the next Speaker of the House of Representatives when Democrats take control next year. At a press conference on Thursday she said that she did not support President Trump’s proposal to build a border wall with Mexico. She called the proposed border wall “immoral, ineffective, and expensive” and promised it will not be funded under her watch. Then she added:
“Trump also promised Mexico would pay for it, so even if they did, it’s immoral still and they’re not going to pay for it.”

But Pelosi has to be careful because even as she takes a strong position, the president is threatening to shut down portions of the U.S. government if wall funding is not provided in the appropriations legislation passed by the House.

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A shutdown would hurt the country and make both parties look bad in the eyes of the American people. To deal with Trump’s threats, Pelosi suggested that Congress “punt” on the idea at this time. She said that a debate over the president’s demand for the wall should be delayed until next fall in order to avert the government shutdown that Trump has threatened.
However, Pelosi made clear that she is still rejecting Trump’s $5 billion demand for border security. The Democratic leader told reporters she would refuse an offer from Trump and congressional Republicans to use the so-called ‘Dreamers’ as a bargaining chip. GOP leaders have said that they might be willing to permanently resolve the standoff over the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program in exchange for the requested money for a border wall.

“They’re two different subjects,” Pelosi said. She made clear that she wants to separate the debate over extending DACA from a fight in Congress over the border wall.

The House of Representatives and Senate passed a two-week stopgap funding measure Thursday afternoon, extending current government funding until December 21. This buys them more time to negotiate a long-term deal, although prospects for doing so are not very good.
The future Speaker said there should be some areas where agreement could be reached, and other areas where the funding decisions could be postponed through the use of continuing resolutions.
“We have before us all of the factors, all of the issues to make a decision. I think that what we can do that makes sense is to pass the six bills where the members of the appropriations committee have come to terms during ongoing negotiations,” Pelosi proposed. “Then have a continuing resolution only for Homeland Security as we go forward, and that’s pretty much where our position is now.”
Actually, a yearlong continuing resolution on funding for homeland security is a great idea, since that is the area where the two parties currently disagree very strongly. Also, she reminded everyone that the president could extend the DACA program on his own, and that would be the right thing for him to do. The young immigrants involved in DACA should not be held hostage by Trump in order to coerce Congress into funding his wall.
Rep. Pelosi then concluded her remarks to reporters with some optimistic comments, saying:
“We can move forward with this. We have a responsibility, all of us, to secure our borders, north, south, and coming in by plane, on our coasts — three coasts, north, south and west. And that — that’s a responsibility we honor, but we do so by honoring our values, as well.”



 

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BORDER SECURITY President Trump Vs Pelosi, Schumer at EXPLOSIVE Press Briefing Border Wall Budget
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(No Ads now, Solely Your Support, Please Donate $1 https://bit.ly/2Dewqmz. Thank you very much!) 'You Put Words in My Mouth?' President Trump CLASHES Democrat Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer in front of reporters at White House News Conference on Border Wall Spending Budget Bill
and this is why I love Trump.

Pence looks like how I looked as a kid when my parents started screaming at each other in front of me.
 

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Migrant group demands Trump either let them in or pay them each $50G to turn around: report
Now resorting to blackmail? That'll really make people want to let them in.



He said the money would allow the migrants to return home and start a small business.
Start a business? In Honduras? Wait a minute. Back the f' up. The whole reason they were said to be fleeing Honduras was because it was said to be too violent to live there. If it's too violent to live there, it'd be too violent to take tens of thousands of dollars back with them and open a business.
This "demand" of theirs just proves what lying POS's they really are. All they want is what you the reader has, but without having to work for it like you had to.
 

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“I’m on the record saying numerous times I think a shutdown is a fool’s errand. Every shutdown we’ve been in, nobody wins. So I’m very discouraged by that,” said Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.).
That's because the "shutdown" never actually affects the parts of gov that needs to be shutdown.
 

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Trump again claims Mexico will pay for his wall. Democrats say it means Congress doesn't need to
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...congress-doesnt-need-to/ar-BBQV4YT?ocid=ientp
They're so stupid. What he means by that is the economic benefit of a better trade deal will help the economy more than the tax cost of building a wall hurts the economy. Not that the savings that companies realize due to that better trade deal will be confiscated in order to pay for the wall. The gov still needs to budget for it.
 

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Vicente Fox can kiss my ass, the lying dog!
The LIB LEFT is grasping at straws.
They are going down.
 

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Trump blew his wad on this one, he will be a one term president, if he even makes it that far. How sad for this country

Here's where things stand now...……..

- Trump backs off demand for $5 billion for border wall, but shutdown still possible after Democrats reject new GOP offer

- White House climbs down from $5 billion wall request as it says Trump would accept $1.6 billion in scramble to make a deal with Democrats
 

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Shut down the government and don't give squat to the democrats. F them. They only want power and refuse to work for the American people.
 

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And now schumer says not one cent for the wall, no 1.6 billion , they are fking trump in the ass daily and rinos are doing it too, he is toast

Schumer says he will stick with his two offers to avoid a shutdown; a stopgap bill across the board, or a stopgap to fund the Department of Homeland Security with appropriate packages for the rest of the agencies subject to closure.


Earlier Tuesday White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said that the Senate has "thrown out a number of ideas," and that when something passes, the White House will evaluate it. On the topic of funding the wall, Sanders told Fox News "We have other ways that we can get to that $5 billion," adding "At the end of the day we don’t want to shut down the government, we want to shut down the border." She then said that the White House was looking into other funding sources and believed that it could be accomplished legally.


"There are certainly a number of different funding sources that we’ve identified that we can use, that we can couple with money that would be given through congressional appropriations that would help us get to that $5 billion that the president needs in order to protect our border," said Sanders.


((Schumer disagreed - saying "They need congressional approval - they're not getting it for the wall, plain and simple." ))
 

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And a republican majority in the house and senate, what a fking disgrace.
 

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And a republican majority in the house and senate, what a fking disgrace.
It's because we now have a de-facto 3 party system. D's R's and T's.
....and half the R's are R's in name only.
 

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US pledges $10.6BILLION in aid for Central America and southern Mexico just as Trump backs off his demand for $5billion in border wall funds

  • US pledged total of $10.6 billion in aid to Mexico and Central America Tuesday
  • Money will promote better security and job opportunities in the region
  • Aims to stem the flow of migrants traveling toward the US border with Mexico
  • Announcement on changes to Mexico's migration policy was postponed
  • Mexican foreign relations secretary calls package 'very good news for Mexico'
  • Comes as Trump signaled that he would take less than $5B asked for border wall
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ges-5-8B-aid-CentAm-4-8B-southern-Mexico.html
R u fukin kiddiing if trump signs this u know where his bread is buttered
 

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US pledges $10.6BILLION in aid for Central America and southern Mexico just as Trump backs off his demand for $5billion in border wall funds
That's like paying 212,000 of 'em $50,000 each to not come. Is that a good deal?
 

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Headlines...………...

- 'It will be beautiful!' Trump says the Democrats misunderstand his 'artistically designed' wall that will save the nation 'billions a month'

- Trump claims the military will build the wall after abandoning his demand for $5 billion to fund it - but admits Mexico will only pay for it INDIRECTLY

- Purple Heart Air Force veteran, 37, creates GoFundMe campaign to build Trump's border wall, raising more than $500,000 in TWO DAYS
Searcher that gofundme for trumps wall deserves its own post ergo im stealing it
 

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Why not make Mexico use half that $10 billion to start building the wall like the Transcontinental Railroad in the 19th century? Mexico starts on one end and we meet somewhere in the middle.