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In the statement Saturday night, Sánchez Cordero explained that the next administration does not have any plans to make Mexico a "third safe country" for migrants.
Then they shouldn't have allowed them into their nation to begin with. Mexico let them in because they knew they only wanted passage to America. If these people had come with the intention of living illegally in Mexico, they'd have been arrested and deported. Ie: Mexico is facilitating these people and their intentions to illegally enter the US.
 

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They were immediately arrested by American Border Patrol guards and planned to claim political asylum
When caught, claiming asylum has become a standard last ditch effort to avoid deportation and is the only reason they claim it. If they hadn't been caught, they would have simply disappeared.

Is anyone really dumb enough to believe that they had every intention of illegally entering the country only to directly report to immigration officials so they could claim asylum?
 

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Trump warns Democrats he'll 'close the entire Southern Border' if they don't fund his wall as he signals Bush's death won't get in the way of his immigration demands

  • Many govt. agencies are scheduled to run out of money Friday at midnight
  • Congress and the president must agree on a new funding proposal
  • Trump wants $5 billion to fund his border wall; Democrats in no mood to deal
  • President George H.W. bush died Friday night and he will lie in state in the U.S. Capitol beginning on Monday afternoon
  • President Trump said he's willing to sign a two-week extension of current spending levels

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...der-dont-fund-wall-despite-Bushs-passing.html
Trump fucked up when he caved on last budget, now theres a two week extension, he will cave again, no 5b for wall, no obama crime family prosecutions, he will not get a second term. Failed on two biggest campaign promises
 

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Illegal entry is a federal misdemeanor, and those who plead guilty under Streamline are generally sentenced to time served and then handed back to immigration officials for deportation or asylum processing, depending on the individual case.
Or in other words, no punishment at all.


"I made such a big effort to get here. I'm scared of getting caught and being deported," Mejilla said. "If there is no other way to go to the U.S., I will cross like them."
Or in other words, give Mejilla what he wants or he'll just take it anyways.


Church sparks controversy by putting Baby Jesus in a CAGE in nativity scene to highlight Trump's policy of splitting immigrant families at the border
What a bunch of f'ing idiots.
 

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“I ask myself, is it possible that this señor thinks we have papers? He knows we don’t speak English,” Ms. Morales said. “Why wouldn’t he figure it out?”
So she intentionally employed deception to get a job, then tries to say, "they should have known I was lying!", really? All she accomplished was outing herself. I hope she likes goin' back to Guatemala. Hey, maybe she can join the next caravan. lol
 

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She said she didn’t have proper documentation, and she used false Social Security and permanent resident cards.
In other words she's a liar, but blames those she deceived for having believed her.


“I ask myself, is it possible that this señor thinks we have papers? He knows we don’t speak English,” Morales told The Times. “Why wouldn’t he figure it out?”
Seems like she's saying we should suspect any non-English speaking people who look like immigrants, as being illegal. Is that what she is saying here? If so, even the illegals agree that we need an "English only" law to weed them out.
 

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So it goes, nothing was unexpected, One of two main promises, does the Donal shut down .gov?


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No money for border wall in exchange for ‘Dreamer’ legal protections, Pelosi says
The Democratic leader takes a hard line as spending bills to fund the government after Dec. 21 advance amid the president's threat of a shutdown over money to build the wall.
By MATTHEW DALYAssociated Press
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WASHINGTON — House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi on Thursday rejected the idea of paying for President Trump’s border wall in exchange for helping hundreds of thousands of young immigrants avoid deportation.
Funding for the wall – a top Trump priority – and legal protections for so-called Dreamers, a key Democratic goal, should not be linked, Pelosi said.



House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi speaks with the media on Thursday in Washington. Pelosi says building a border wall would be immoral. Associated Press/J. Scott Applewhite
“They’re two different subjects,” she said.
Her comments came as the House and Senate approved a stopgap bill Thursday to keep the government funded through Dec. 21. The measure, approved by voice votes in near-empty chambers, now goes to the White House.
Trump has promised to sign the two-week extension to allow for ceremonies this week honoring former President George H.W. Bush, who died last Friday. But he wants the next funding package to include at least $5 billion for his proposed wall, something Democrats have rejected. Trump is set to meet Tuesday at the White House with Pelosi and Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer.
Pelosi, who is seeking to become House speaker in January, said the lame-duck Congress should now pass a half-dozen government funding bills that key committees have already agreed on, along with a separate measure funding the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees the border. Funding for the homeland agency should address border security and does not necessarily include a wall, Pelosi said.
 

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WHAT AN EVIL FUCKING BITCH
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Posted on Fri, Dec 7th, 2018 by Leo Vidal
Pelosi Reveals Plan to Avoid Government Shutdown With No Wall Funding
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Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California is likely to become the next Speaker of the House of Representatives when Democrats take control next year. At a press conference on Thursday she said that she did not support President Trump’s proposal to build a border wall with Mexico. She called the proposed border wall “immoral, ineffective, and expensive” and promised it will not be funded under her watch. Then she added:
“Trump also promised Mexico would pay for it, so even if they did, it’s immoral still and they’re not going to pay for it.”

But Pelosi has to be careful because even as she takes a strong position, the president is threatening to shut down portions of the U.S. government if wall funding is not provided in the appropriations legislation passed by the House.

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A shutdown would hurt the country and make both parties look bad in the eyes of the American people. To deal with Trump’s threats, Pelosi suggested that Congress “punt” on the idea at this time. She said that a debate over the president’s demand for the wall should be delayed until next fall in order to avert the government shutdown that Trump has threatened.
However, Pelosi made clear that she is still rejecting Trump’s $5 billion demand for border security. The Democratic leader told reporters she would refuse an offer from Trump and congressional Republicans to use the so-called ‘Dreamers’ as a bargaining chip. GOP leaders have said that they might be willing to permanently resolve the standoff over the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program in exchange for the requested money for a border wall.

“They’re two different subjects,” Pelosi said. She made clear that she wants to separate the debate over extending DACA from a fight in Congress over the border wall.

The House of Representatives and Senate passed a two-week stopgap funding measure Thursday afternoon, extending current government funding until December 21. This buys them more time to negotiate a long-term deal, although prospects for doing so are not very good.
The future Speaker said there should be some areas where agreement could be reached, and other areas where the funding decisions could be postponed through the use of continuing resolutions.
“We have before us all of the factors, all of the issues to make a decision. I think that what we can do that makes sense is to pass the six bills where the members of the appropriations committee have come to terms during ongoing negotiations,” Pelosi proposed. “Then have a continuing resolution only for Homeland Security as we go forward, and that’s pretty much where our position is now.”
Actually, a yearlong continuing resolution on funding for homeland security is a great idea, since that is the area where the two parties currently disagree very strongly. Also, she reminded everyone that the president could extend the DACA program on his own, and that would be the right thing for him to do. The young immigrants involved in DACA should not be held hostage by Trump in order to coerce Congress into funding his wall.
Rep. Pelosi then concluded her remarks to reporters with some optimistic comments, saying:
“We can move forward with this. We have a responsibility, all of us, to secure our borders, north, south, and coming in by plane, on our coasts — three coasts, north, south and west. And that — that’s a responsibility we honor, but we do so by honoring our values, as well.”



 

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BORDER SECURITY President Trump Vs Pelosi, Schumer at EXPLOSIVE Press Briefing Border Wall Budget
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(No Ads now, Solely Your Support, Please Donate $1 https://bit.ly/2Dewqmz. Thank you very much!) 'You Put Words in My Mouth?' President Trump CLASHES Democrat Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer in front of reporters at White House News Conference on Border Wall Spending Budget Bill
and this is why I love Trump.

Pence looks like how I looked as a kid when my parents started screaming at each other in front of me.
 

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Migrant group demands Trump either let them in or pay them each $50G to turn around: report
Now resorting to blackmail? That'll really make people want to let them in.



He said the money would allow the migrants to return home and start a small business.
Start a business? In Honduras? Wait a minute. Back the f' up. The whole reason they were said to be fleeing Honduras was because it was said to be too violent to live there. If it's too violent to live there, it'd be too violent to take tens of thousands of dollars back with them and open a business.
This "demand" of theirs just proves what lying POS's they really are. All they want is what you the reader has, but without having to work for it like you had to.
 

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“I’m on the record saying numerous times I think a shutdown is a fool’s errand. Every shutdown we’ve been in, nobody wins. So I’m very discouraged by that,” said Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.).
That's because the "shutdown" never actually affects the parts of gov that needs to be shutdown.
 

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Trump again claims Mexico will pay for his wall. Democrats say it means Congress doesn't need to
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...congress-doesnt-need-to/ar-BBQV4YT?ocid=ientp
They're so stupid. What he means by that is the economic benefit of a better trade deal will help the economy more than the tax cost of building a wall hurts the economy. Not that the savings that companies realize due to that better trade deal will be confiscated in order to pay for the wall. The gov still needs to budget for it.
 

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Vicente Fox can kiss my ass, the lying dog!
The LIB LEFT is grasping at straws.
They are going down.
 

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Trump blew his wad on this one, he will be a one term president, if he even makes it that far. How sad for this country

Here's where things stand now...……..

- Trump backs off demand for $5 billion for border wall, but shutdown still possible after Democrats reject new GOP offer

- White House climbs down from $5 billion wall request as it says Trump would accept $1.6 billion in scramble to make a deal with Democrats
 

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Shut down the government and don't give squat to the democrats. F them. They only want power and refuse to work for the American people.
 

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And now schumer says not one cent for the wall, no 1.6 billion , they are fking trump in the ass daily and rinos are doing it too, he is toast

Schumer says he will stick with his two offers to avoid a shutdown; a stopgap bill across the board, or a stopgap to fund the Department of Homeland Security with appropriate packages for the rest of the agencies subject to closure.


Earlier Tuesday White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said that the Senate has "thrown out a number of ideas," and that when something passes, the White House will evaluate it. On the topic of funding the wall, Sanders told Fox News "We have other ways that we can get to that $5 billion," adding "At the end of the day we don’t want to shut down the government, we want to shut down the border." She then said that the White House was looking into other funding sources and believed that it could be accomplished legally.


"There are certainly a number of different funding sources that we’ve identified that we can use, that we can couple with money that would be given through congressional appropriations that would help us get to that $5 billion that the president needs in order to protect our border," said Sanders.


((Schumer disagreed - saying "They need congressional approval - they're not getting it for the wall, plain and simple." ))
 

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And a republican majority in the house and senate, what a fking disgrace.
 

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And a republican majority in the house and senate, what a fking disgrace.
It's because we now have a de-facto 3 party system. D's R's and T's.
....and half the R's are R's in name only.
 

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US pledges $10.6BILLION in aid for Central America and southern Mexico just as Trump backs off his demand for $5billion in border wall funds

  • US pledged total of $10.6 billion in aid to Mexico and Central America Tuesday
  • Money will promote better security and job opportunities in the region
  • Aims to stem the flow of migrants traveling toward the US border with Mexico
  • Announcement on changes to Mexico's migration policy was postponed
  • Mexican foreign relations secretary calls package 'very good news for Mexico'
  • Comes as Trump signaled that he would take less than $5B asked for border wall
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ges-5-8B-aid-CentAm-4-8B-southern-Mexico.html
R u fukin kiddiing if trump signs this u know where his bread is buttered
 

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US pledges $10.6BILLION in aid for Central America and southern Mexico just as Trump backs off his demand for $5billion in border wall funds
That's like paying 212,000 of 'em $50,000 each to not come. Is that a good deal?
 

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Headlines...………...

- 'It will be beautiful!' Trump says the Democrats misunderstand his 'artistically designed' wall that will save the nation 'billions a month'

- Trump claims the military will build the wall after abandoning his demand for $5 billion to fund it - but admits Mexico will only pay for it INDIRECTLY

- Purple Heart Air Force veteran, 37, creates GoFundMe campaign to build Trump's border wall, raising more than $500,000 in TWO DAYS
Searcher that gofundme for trumps wall deserves its own post ergo im stealing it
 

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Why not make Mexico use half that $10 billion to start building the wall like the Transcontinental Railroad in the 19th century? Mexico starts on one end and we meet somewhere in the middle.