Local lumber yard has most of their pressure treated right along side the road. I'd hate to think someone would try to steal it.
About this time last year there were signs posted all over the yard and in the office stating customers could not load their own vehicles. I asked if it was an insurance requirement and was told that it was because someone loaded up their vehicle with materials they never even payed for.
Okay, here are the current prices for sheathing plywood at Menards:
So the price is not much about the price of wood in the product, nor the price of glue, but probably the number of units the factory can handle in a shift. And obviously, some entity is bidding up the price to stupid-high levels.
Funny, I just checked "flooring" plywood, and all they had was 1/4 inch for $35.59 Where is the plywood flooring?
Okay, it is under "tongue & groove". Bastards. Here are the subfloor plywood prices:
3/4 ordinary $75.64
3/4 weather $84.54
1 1/8 ordinary $85.43
When I bought the 3/4 weather-proof, I think it was around thirty bucks. A high price, but good insurance because I was doing it myself in the snow. With these thin differences in price, I would absolutely go for the 1 1/8 plywood today. OSB? NO!
Yes I heard just today from a podcast, the lumber shortage is a rigged game, and/or one market sector anticipating a rise in inflation. The food and oil markets are also taking hits and rising in prices. Geopolitical and food supply chains aside, lumber is certainly developing into a kind of collective 'hording' cartel, with suppliers knowing full well with a rising price, that selling into such an inflationary landscape on the back of a rising house price boom, the lumber thence is going to be worth a crap load more in the near to medium future.
I have some thoughts on this being housing starts are at a rapid pace where I am despite the price hikes in lumber, copper wire, electrical devices, plumbing et al. If and when the commodity prices drop that means these freshly minted houses sold to the fresh faced "how much down and how much a month" set will be worth less because new comparable houses will be able to be made cheaper meaning a lot of underwater loans in the real estate market.
Things never change, only the faces do during another cycle of the real estate investing cycles.
Not that it'll change anyones direction, but I am sensing a blip in the force... as masks are disappearing, buyers are returning to their senses.. If you have something you can sell, sell now or you may forever hold that property and all the AD velorum they will take.....
at the wholesale level, or futures and other, you have heard me speak to the limit moves down in lumber, then some ups, followed by more downs,
still at all time high levels but certainly off the peaks,
yet at the retail level, no such decreases in pricing is evident
and it isn't just wood, all invoices are coming in much higher,
a sparky in some 2 bit town of nowhere goes to buy a roll of 12/2 and gets rolled for dough with this new pricing scheme
little while ago, a small builder around here went and plunked down enough cash at the building supply to lock his price on the next 6 houses,
you are talking somewhere around 1/4 mill just for the frames, cash
hard to even get floor coverings, hvac guys can't get furnaces and AC's in a timely fashion,
garage doors on long leads because of the spray foam for insulated doors,
cabinets/windows/trusses all on long lead times
and I am here to say, these prices are the new paradigm, as it will be a long time if ever we see the prices that we were 'used to'.
Retail prices always rise faster than they decline.
Folks finishing a project will still pay the $100. for the last needed sheet of 1/2 CDX.
Home Depot will gladly take that extra wholesale to retail spread while it lasts.
Agree Scorp.. this week bought enough new switches, receptacles and plates to convert a 2 br condo from ivory to white for a friend of mine. Got the highest rated 20a and 120/277 rated but still laid out $500 plus to get it done. Had to dig around shelves at home depot for over an hour to find a matching series... paid 3.80 a foot for flat 6/3 uf in January, noticed it was at 6.50 as i passed the wire rack.. Friend bought a new frigidaire counter depth in February, one of the boards is bad and they are telling them 4+ months to get a new one. new home up the street had new carrier air handler installed to replace the non cooling unit installed in march.. 3 month old was sat in the street overnight banged and beaten with the carrier nameplate visible like a testimony of their ineptness
So it isn't just you can't get it, what you can get is often really shotty quality and little to no product support or repairability...
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