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Is It Time For Mueller To Wrap It Up Or Step It Up?

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One question; What other reason could there be?
Because Papadopolous was drunkenly running his mouth to an Australian diplomat about getting Russian help for Trump's campaign, and that is both illegal and a national security issue of the highest order?
I don't know if that's true, but it is a plausible explanation.
 

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Because Papadopolous was drunkenly running his mouth to an Australian diplomat about getting Russian help for Trump's campaign, and that is both illegal and a national security issue of the highest order?
I don't know if that's true, but it is a plausible explanation.
Can a counterintelligence operation be started based on hearsay?
 

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Can a counterintelligence operation be started based on hearsay?
Sure if killary pays for it. With a death list as long as theirs when they talk people do.........
 

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Can a counterintelligence operation be started based on hearsay?
Intelligence is hearsay plus analysis. It's ALL Humint unless it's proven out, and then becomes evidence.

At this point, Papadopolous' emails and testimony are evidence that Papadopolous was making efforts to get Russian help for the Trump campaign.
 

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Intelligence is hearsay plus analysis. It's ALL Humint unless it's proven out, and then becomes evidence.

At this point, Papadopolous' emails and testimony are evidence that Papadopolous was making efforts to get Russian help for the Trump campaign.
But is there evidence that he was doing this at the behest of Trump, or was he freelancing? Those are two completely different things, and two completely different evidence chains/investigation lines.
 

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But is there evidence that he was doing this at the behest of Trump, or was he freelancing? Those are two completely different things, and two completely different evidence chains/investigation lines.
Fully agree. We don't know how high up the food chain any of that went.
 

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Russians Plead “ Not Guilty”; Judge Says Mueller Can’t Delay Sharing Evidence
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Published on May 24, 2018
Russians enter not guilty plea and demand a speedy trial for Mueller indictments.
 

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Inside the mysterious firm run by spies that Mueller is investigating after bosses met with Donald Trump Jr at Trump Tower before the election

  • Robert Mueller is probing Wikistrat and founder Joel Zamel over links to Trump
  • Company is officially a research organisation and pitched Trump Jr on a plan to gather data and use social media to help his father win the election, it is reported
  • But former employees say firm may have been involved in intelligence gathering
  • Majority of Wikistrat's clients are foreign governments while former Israeli intelligence officers are listed as senior employees, leaked documents show
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ous-firm-run-spies-Mueller-investigating.html
 

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Sundunce says Mueller is white hat is secretly investigating Clinton cabal, keep Mueller on job is doing good work must tell the queen.
 

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Mueller should not wrap it up until the 12th of June. The day after Q says things go BOOM.
 

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Today Is The Deadline For The FBI To "Come Clean"


by Tyler Durden
Fri, 07/06/2018 - 11:25


The Wall Street Journal continues to counter the liberal mainstream media's anti-Trump-ness, dropping uncomfortable truth-bombs, exposing the real 'constitutional crisis', and refusing to back off its intense pressure to get to the truth and hold those responsible, accountable; in a forum that is hard for the establishment to shrug off as 'Alt-Right' or 'Nazi' or be 'punished' by search- and social-media-giants.



And once again Kimberley Strassel - who by now has become the focus of social media attacks for her truth-seeking reporting - does it again this morning, as she asks - rhetorically, we assume - will the FBI come clean?

In the trench war between congressional Republicans and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, we have arrived at a crucial battle. A House resolution sets Friday as the deadline for the Justice Department to come clean on the beginning of its investigation into the Trump campaign. We’ll find out if the FBI has been lying to the public.
That is, if the department complies. It has flouted so many subpoenas, and played so many games with redactions and deadlines, that the entire House GOP united last week to vote for the resolution demanding submission to Congress’s requests for documents. The vote was an order but also a warning—that this is the last chance to comply, and the next step will be to hold officials in contempt. It is a measure of the stakes that even that threat doesn’t guarantee cooperation.​
At issue is the FBI’s “origin story,” in which it claims its full-fledged investigation into a presidential campaign was conducted, as it were, by the book. According to this narrative, the FBI did not launch its probe until July 31, 2016, only after Australia tipped it to a conversation junior Trump aide George Papadopoulos had with Australian diplomat Alexander Downer in the spring of 2016 in London. Only after this formal commencement of a counterintelligence probe—Crossfire Hurricane—did the FBI begin to target U.S. citizens with spying, wiretapping and other tools usually reserved for foreign infiltrators. Or so the story goes.​
This account, relayed by the New York Times in December 2017, has proved highly convenient for the FBI. The Australian “government” connection allowed the bureau to infuse the meaningless Papadopoulos conversation with significance, justifying the probe. The origin story suggested the FBI had followed procedure. Mostly, it countered the growing suspicion that the bureau had been snooping on a presidential campaign on the basis of truly disreputable info—a dossier of salacious information compiled by an opposition research firm working for the rival campaign.​
The story is full of holes, and they are widening. No one has explained why two months passed between the Papadopoulos-Downer conversation and the July 31 probe. We’ve learned that it wasn’t Australian intelligence that passed along the info, but Mr. Downer personally, to State Department personnel in violation of procedure. And a growing list of Trump officials now relate moments when they were approached by suspicious figures before July 31.
That’s why congressional investigators have come to suspect the real origin story is very different. They believe the FBI was investigating Trump officials well before July 31, on the basis of the dossier and dubious information from State Department officials. They think the bureau was employing a variety of counterintelligence tools before there was an official counterintelligence probe—and that this included deploying spies against political actors. They suspect that only when the FBI decided that it wanted to obtain a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant against Trump aide Carter Page (which requires an official investigation) did it surface the Downer information (collected back in May) and make it the official pretext in July.​
This theory is at the heart of the standoff with the Justice Department, which focuses on FBI actions prior to July 31. I’m told that multiple senior congressional members have repeatedly asked Justice Department leadership to affirm that the department had provided Congress everything relevant with regard to the Trump investigation. The department has said yes. Yet investigators have credible evidence pointing to the use of FBI informants against the Trump campaign earlier than July 31, and last week’s resolution requires the department to answer whether that is true, and if so, on what basis they were used.​
The FBI and its media allies have waged a ceaseless campaign to lower the bar on what counts as appropriate.
We are told it is OK that the government opened a counterintelligence probe into a presidential campaign. OK that it obtained a warrant to spy on a U.S. citizen. OK that it based that warrant on an unverified dossier from the Democratic campaign, and then hid that true origin from the FISA court. OK that it paid a spy to target domestic political actors.​
It’s not OK. Not so long ago, the FBI would have quailed at the idea of running an informant into any U.S. political operation—even into, say, a congressman under criminal investigation for bribery or corruption. These are the most sensitive of lines. But Mr. Trump’s opponents, in government and media, have a boundless capacity to justify any measures against the president.
And finally, Strassel has some advice on how to resolve this... Mr. Trump has an even quicker way to bring the hostility to an end.

If it turns out that the Justice Department and FBI lied about how and when this all started, that is scandalous. Worse if it comes out that senior officials lied to Congress about whether they had complied with its demands for information. And once again, it is a reason for Mr. Trump to step in and declassify everything.
Just what will the deep state do to avoid this eventuality? Do they have anything left to throw at Trump?

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-06/today-deadline-fbi-come-clean
 

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Mueller should not wrap it up until the 12th of June. The day after Q says things go BOOM.
I agree the 12th of June 2019 Mueller should wrap it up.
 

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Shifting Strategy, Trump’s Lawyers Set New Conditions for Mueller Interview

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By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT and MAGGIE HABERMAN
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WASHINGTON — President Trump’s lawyers set new conditions on Friday on an interview with the special counsel and said that the chances that the president would be voluntarily questioned were growing increasingly unlikely.

The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, needs to prove before Mr. Trump would agree to an interview that he has evidence that Mr. Trump committed a crime and that his testimony is essential to completing the investigation, said Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s lead lawyer in the case.

His declaration was the latest sign that the president’s lawyers, who long cooperated quietly with the inquiry even as their client attacked it, have shifted to an openly combative stance.

Mr. Giuliani acknowledged that Mr. Mueller was unlikely to agree to the interview demands. Mr. Mueller could subpoena Mr. Trump to answer questions if he does not agree to voluntarily sit for an interview. Mr. Giuliani left open the possibility that the president, who has said in the past that he would be eager to sit down with the special counsel, would still agree to be interviewed.

Mr. Giuliani appeared to be in part trying to shift responsibility onto the special counsel for the lengthy negotiations over an interview — and was most likely prolonging them himself.

“If they can come to us and show us the basis and that it’s legitimate and that they have uncovered something, we can go from there and assess their objectivity,” Mr. Giuliani said in an interview. He urged the special counsel to wrap up his inquiry and write an investigative report. He said Mr. Trump’s lawyers planned to write their own summary of the case.

A spokesman for the special counsel’s office declined to comment.

The president’s lawyers want Mr. Mueller to explain how the Justice Department gave him the authority to investigate possible obstruction of justice by the president in what began as a counterintelligence investigation into Russia’s election meddling. The order appointing Mr. Mueller authorized him to investigate possible links between Moscow’s interference and Trump associates, as well as any matters that arose from the inquiry.

The lawyers also want evidence that the special counsel exhausted every other investigative measure before asking the president to answer questions, and that he is the only person who could provide them with the information they are seeking.

The gambit by Mr. Giuliani was the latest maneuver in an all-out assault by the president and his legal team in recent months to alter public opinion about the inquiry. They have come to believe that, if the Democrats win control of the House in November, the chamber will vote on whether to begin the impeachment process no matter the outcome of Mr. Mueller’s investigation. So they want to sway Americans — and by extension, lawmakers.

To that end, Mr. Trump has publicly complained about the investigation more frequently in recent months — tweeting about a “witch hunt” 59 times since March, compared with 20 times in all of 2017 — and Mr. Giuliani regularly appears in the media attacking the investigation.

Mr. Trump’s lawyers are quietly more combative, too, contesting a request from the special counsel to interview John F. Kelly, the White House chief of staff. Emmet T. Flood, the lead White House lawyer in dealing with the investigation, has demanded to know what investigators want to ask Mr. Kelly and has tried to narrow the scope of their questions. A month after the request was made, Mr. Kelly has not been questioned, though a White House official said he was willing to be.

“That’s the new position. If they had made the request eight months ago, they would have said yes because they thought there was a group of people on Mueller’s team who had an open mind and were objective,” Mr. Giuliani said of the president’s previous lawyers, most of whom have left the legal team.

The effort appears to be bearing some fruit. According to a Washington Post-Schar School poll released on Friday, 45 percent of Americans disapprove of how Mr. Mueller is handling the investigation, a 14-point increase from January.

“Nobody is going to consider impeachment if public opinion has concluded this is an unfair investigation, and that’s why public opinion is so important,” Mr. Giuliani said.

The strategy is a departure from the legal team’s playbook during the first year of the special counsel investigation, when Mr. Trump’s lawyers were more cooperative. They waived executive privilege, handed over documents and made White House aides available for interviews, convinced that it would hasten the end of the inquiry.

But in April, Mr. Trump concluded that Mr. Mueller and Justice Department officials were determined to find wrongdoing after federal investigators in New York, acting on a referral from the special counsel, raided the office, hotel room and home of Mr. Trump’s longtime personal lawyer Michael D. Cohen.

After the raid, Mr. Trump decided to double down on his more aggressive strategy, according to people close to him. He hired Mr. Giuliani to replace his lawyer John M. Dowd, who had convinced Mr. Trump of the value of the earlier, more cooperative approach. Mr. Giuliani immediately began a public relations assault on Mr. Mueller. Mr. Flood, who is known for his strong view of the president’s powers to shield his communications and documents from investigators, was brought on in May.

Mr. Giuliani has sown doubt and confusion by pushing dubious theories about the case. He has made claims like accusing Mr. Mueller’s office, without evidence, of trying to frame Mr. Trump. Mr. Giuliani has also pushed unfounded theories, like an assertion that the F.B.I. implanted a spy in Mr. Trump’s campaign.

The president and his lawyers have also tried to undermine key witnesses like James B. Comey, the former F.B.I. director fired by Mr. Trump, to force the public to decide whether to believe them or the president. That is a tall task — the president’s penchant for half-truths, exaggerations and outright falsehoods is well established.

But Mr. Trump and his lawyers contend that Mr. Comey damaged his credibility as a witness during his book tour this spring by showing that he played by his own rules when he ran the F.B.I., and that the findings of a recent inspector general report critical of the F.B.I.’s handling of the Hillary Clinton email investigation buttressed their case.

Mr. Giuliani views the tactics as an early success. “Right now, public opinion is going in our direction big time,” he said.

His approach also extends to his public portrayal of the negotiations with Mr. Mueller over a presidential interview. Even as they have delayed any agreement for at least six months of negotiations, the lawyers have condemned the special counsel for dragging out the inquiry, saying he has had more than enough time to complete his investigation.

Mr. Giuliani has gone back and forth about whether the president will agree to be questioned and given varying timetables. He once said Mr. Trump would make a decision after his meeting with the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un, last month, then changed that deadline to July. The president’s lawyers have set other deadlines that came and went without resolution.

This stalling has all but dared Mr. Mueller to subpoena Mr. Trump to testify, potentially setting off a monthslong battle in court about whether the president can be compelled to answer questions under oath.

Also prompting a shift in the president’s strategy was the conclusion by his lawyers that even if Mr. Mueller finds evidence of wrongdoing, he will adhere to Justice Department memos that say the president should not be indicted, and is likely to instead send a damaging report on Mr. Trump’s conduct to Congress.

Critics see the array of delay tactics as aimed at stalling an investigative report to Congress until after November’s midterm elections. The more time Mr. Trump and his lawyers have to influence Americans’ views of the inquiry, the better their chances to undermine its credibility and pressure lawmakers not to impeach Mr. Trump.

Legal experts are skeptical that the new tactics will be effective. “It’s a gambit because if there’s damaging information that comes out down the line — like primary source documents or testimony — then you’ve spent your capital trying to create a public narrative that is belied by hard evidence,” said Stephen I. Vladeck, a professor at the University of Texas School of Law and an expert on constitutional law.

Mr. Dowd said that the public did not appreciate the damage the investigation had done to both Mr. Trump and the presidency over the past year. He said he had come around to Mr. Trump’s view, first voiced by the president last summer, that Mr. Mueller is acting in bad faith.

“That’s the way the president was at the beginning,” Mr. Dowd said, “and the president was right.”

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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...s-for-mueller-interview/ar-AAzH0qE?ocid=ientp
 

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Mueller team to introduce evidence that for the first time ties Trump campaign to Paul Manafort's fraud and money laundering charges as the former chairman remains behind bars in solitary confinement

  • Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort faces bank fraud, tax evasion and conspiracy charges in a high-profile federal case
  • On Friday, prosecutors said they will introduce evidence at his trial which links his alleges crimes to the campaign
  • Manafort's trial is due to begin in Virginia on July 25
  • He is being held in solitary confinement in jail for 'his own safety except'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Manaforts-alleged-crimes-Trump-campaign.html
 

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Mueller team to introduce evidence that for the first time ties Trump campaign to Paul Manafort's fraud and money laundering charges as the former chairman remains behind bars in solitary confinement

  • Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort faces bank fraud, tax evasion and conspiracy charges in a high-profile federal case
  • On Friday, prosecutors said they will introduce evidence at his trial which links his alleges crimes to the campaign
  • Manafort's trial is due to begin in Virginia on July 25
  • He is being held in solitary confinement in jail for 'his own safety except'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Manaforts-alleged-crimes-Trump-campaign.html
I'm of a mind that if Trump is tied to money laundering and having Russia influence the election, then he needs to go...as much "winning" as has been ongoing, we the people should not, and cannot, accept corruption as "the norm".
 

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And the kicks and hits just keep on coming.

OTOH
Ever had a garage sale and not reported income or paid taxes on it ?
Lemonade stand ?
Ebay ?
Made a deposit with any of it or paid it to someone else ?
Every day business is money laundering in some %.
Just depends on who you payoff or piss off.
All b.s. imho.
Figure out how to be your own central bank and the less you care about any of it.
Lest it eat you up like it does some here.

Btw....anyone investigated the Clinton Foundation yet ?
Nahhhhh....didn t think so...
Regards to all....its hot out...going back for some more...feels good to sweat.
:)
 
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And the kicks and hits just keep on coming.

OTOH
Ever had a garage sale and not reported income or paid taxes on it ?
Lemonade stand ?
Ebay ?
Made a deposit with any of it or paid it to someone else ?
Every day business is money laundering in some %.
Just depends on who you payoff or piss off.
All b.s. imho.
Figure out how to be your own central bank and the less you care about any of it.
Lest it you up like it does some here.

Btw....anyone investigated the Clinton Foundation yet ?
Nahhhhh....didn t think so...
Regards to all....its hot out...going back for some more...feels good to sweat.
:)
Supposedly Huber is investigating the CF...among other things.
 

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Tease me.
:)
Nothing ....and I mean nothing....would be better...
I can think of a lot of things that would be better, but it sure would bring a smile to my face. There's always the chance that the CF is unethical, but not illegal...
 

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WHAT A DISGRACE! Special Counsel Mueller Charged Russian Company Not in Existence at Time of Charge!
by Jim Hoft May 12, 2018 405 Comments
Guest post by Joe Hoft


Lawyer: Mueller indicted “the proverbial ham sandwich.”
This week, on Wednesday May 9th, a hearing took place between the corrupt Mueller team and one of the Russian Companies they indicted for interfering with the 2016 US election, Concord Management. Concord Management and a sister company Concord Catering were charged by Mueller for defrauding the government.The Mueller crooks and far left hacks were embarrassed again!


A week ago Friday at a hearing on this same case, Mueller’s team asked for the case to be delayed. The judge politely declined and the initial hearing on the case was held on Wednesday. Mueller’s team is represented by former Clinton Foundation attorney, Jeannie Rhee. CNN applauded Rhee for being on the Mueller team while ignoring her and the entire team’s conflicts of interest –

Rhee represented Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton in a lawsuit about her private emails, and she also represented the Clinton Foundation in a civil racketeering case that was later dismissed.
Rhee also represented President Barack Obama’s deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes during the House Benghazi Committee’s investigation into the deadly 2012 terrorist attack in Libya.​
During the hearing, the judge asked the attorney representing Concord Management if he was also representing Concord Catering. The attorney for Concord Management explained that he is not because the indictment contains the ‘proverbial ham sandwich’, as noted earlier this week at TGP.
What was not yet available until last night was the transcript of the hearing.

The reason the Concord Management attorneys called the case a ‘proverbial ham sandwich’ was because one of the entities indicted by the Mueller team, Concord Catering, was not in existence at the time the crimes were alleged to have taken place.

16h
First, the Court goes over the purpose of the hearing:
to conduct an initial appearance and arraignment of defendant Concord Management and Consulting, LLC pic.twitter.com/bcwRW9JqZC
The Judge brings up Concord Catering, saying the gov't alleges an association with Concord Mgmt.
Attorney for Concord Mgmt:
The gov't has "indicted the proverbial ham sandwich."
"That company didn't exist as a legal entity during the time period alleged by the gov't." pic.twitter.com/XiRG2OMa4M




Here is a copy of the transcript noted in the tweet above –



The Mueller team is a disaster. It’s investigation is unconstitutional. It’s team has more conflicts than any case in US history. It’s cases are crap! Shut it down!


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...n-company-not-in-existence-at-time-of-charge/

What is the cost for witch hunt ?
 

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Btw....anyone investigated the Clinton Foundation yet ?
Nahhhhh....didn t think so...
Regards to all....its hot out...going back for some more...feels good to sweat.
:)
You and I can see the corruption, but there is no legal basis for an investigation of the Clinton Foundation, JMO.
If you've got a sound rationale, I'd love to hear it. I'd be overjoyed to see Slick Willie, Don the Con and Jeff Epstein next to each other in jail. Call it Lolita Express Row.
 

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I can think of a lot of things that would be better, but it sure would bring a smile to my face. There's always the chance that the CF is unethical, but not illegal...
The Clinton's have escaped jail for a long time for a reason. They are (disbarred?) lawyers and mostly know how far they can push their corruption with enough (mostly im)plausible deniability to get away free.
 

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The Clinton's have escaped jail for a long time for a reason. They are (disbarred?) lawyers and mostly know how far they can push their corruption with enough (mostly im)plausible deniability to get away free.
Easy to do when you have a team covering your tracks. I'm glad their influence was not put back into the office but it is still out there.
 

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BREAKING NEWS: Mueller team indicts 12 Russian agents for hacking Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party in a direct attempt to meddle with the 2016 election

  • 12 Russian agents of the GRU intelligence service indicted Friday
  • They hacked into computers in Hillary Clinton's campaign, the Democratic National Committee and state election boards
  • Used 'Guccifer 2.0' alias and 'DCleaks' website as false fronts to distribute hacked information
  • Clinton's campaign chairman John Podesta's emails were hacked and wound up on WikiLeaks, but the indictment doesn't mention the website specifically
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sian-agents-hacking-2016-election-season.html
 

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12 Russians indicted in Mueller investigation

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16 mins ago



Washington — The Justice Department announced indictments in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election against 12 Russian nationals, accusing them of engaging in a "sustained effort" to hack Democrats' emails and computer networks.

All 12 defendants are members of the GRU, a Russian federation intelligence agency within the main intelligence directorate of the Russian military, who were acting in "their official capacities."

DOJ says the hacking targeted Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign, the Democratic National Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, with the intention to "release that information on the internet under the names DCLeaks and Guccifer 2.0 and through another entity."

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said the indictment does not name any American citizen.

"There is no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime," he said at a news conference. "There is no allegation that the conspiracy altered the vote count or changed any election result."

The indictment was announced at almost exactly the moment that Trump rolled into the quadrangle of Windsor Castle to meet the awaiting Queen Elizabeth II in the symbolic highpoint of his visit to Britain.

It also emerged two days before Trump is due to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin — who has denied election meddling — in Helsinki for a summit that includes a one-on-one meeting with only interpreters present.

The unfolding drama on both sides of the Atlantic reflected how Trump's presidency has been overshadowed by the Mueller probe from its earliest moments and how the investigation frequently tramples the President's attempts to carve out favorable headlines.

Prosecutors from Mueller's office and the Justice Department's National Security Division visited the courtroom of a federal magistrate judge in Washington at 11:30 a.m. ET to return the grand jury indictment, according to an itinerary posted outside the courtroom.

This story is breaking and will be updated.

CNN's Stephen Collinson and Laura Robinson contributed to this report.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...n-mueller-investigation/ar-AAA2096?ocid=ientp
 

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Mueller Indicts 12 Russian Intel Officials For Hacking DNC, Hillary Campaign


by Tyler Durden
Fri, 07/13/2018 - 11:40


The DOJ announced charges against 12 Russian intelligence officers for hacking offenses during the 2016 presidential election. The indictments were announced by Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein as part of Mueller's counsel probe into potential coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia.

The Russians are accused of hacking into the computer networks of the Democratic National Committee, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the presidential campaign of Hillary Clinton, and then releasing stolen emails on the internet in the months before the election. Of course, that probably means that someone at the DOJ has access to the DNC Server which oddly nobody from either the CIA or FBI had asked to see at the time of the hack.

The Russian agents created fictitious online personas during their operation, including the Guccifer 2.0 persona, which was previously believed to be a Romanian hacker, as using cryptocurrencies to pay for various computer equipment, including in the US.

The Russian intelligence officials are also charged with using a third-party (which is not named in the indictment but sounds a lot like Wikileaks) to distribute the information (see reference below).



"The internet allows foreign adversaries to attack Americans in new and unexpected ways," Rosenstein said. "Free and fair elections are hard-fought and contentious and there will always be adversaries who work to exacerbate domestic differences and try to confuse, divide and conquer us."

Before Friday, 20 people and three companies had been charged in the Mueller investigation. That includes four former Trump campaign and White House aides and 13 Russians accused of participating in a hidden but powerful social media campaign to sway American public opinion in the 2016 election.

But most interesting was the admission at the end of the indictment, according to which there is no indication that any American was a knowing participant in this activity, and no indication that these efforts altered the vote count in any way.



Rosenstein said he had briefed President Donald Trump on the indictment, which strategically comes just a day before Trump's meeting with Vladimir Putin. It is therefore no surprise that the Russian ruble reversed its earlier gains following the announcement.



While the timing of the indictments is certainly curious, Rosenstein insisted when asked by a reporter that the timing is purely a coincidence and not the result of political considerations.

Read the full indictment below:

( https://www.scribd.com/document/383793520/Netyksho-Et-Al-Indictment#from_embed )

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...makes-mysterious-law-enforcement-announcement
 

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Wonder if this will have an impact with Donnie's meeting with Putin?
 

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Mueller indicts 12 Russian spies for DNC hacking
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Comey etal have had over a year and a half to plant fake evidence, this is the result. Why no charges against Clinton , DNC, CNN for rigging the election against Sanders, Clinton destroying evidence, wheres the DNC Server they would not allow FBI to look at, how did they find this evidence with no server, all bullshit planted by Comey and his criminal cabal
 

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Mueller's Russia investigation: What to know

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Kaitlyn Schallhorn
35 mins ago



The investigation into Russian involvement in the 2016 presidential election continues — with Special Counsel Robert Mueller at its helm.

Mueller, 73, took over the federal government’s probe into alleged collusion between President Trump’s campaign and Russian officials in May 2017. Already, his investigation has led to charges for four Trump campaign associates, though none of the charges are directly related to any misconduct by the president's campaign.

Trump has in the past expressed willingness to testify under oath as part of Mueller’s investigations and has repeatedly denied any “collusion” with Russians.

Why is Mueller overseeing the Russia investigation?
The Department of Justice announced the appointment of Mueller to oversee the federal investigation into Russia’s alleged election meddling in May 2017.

The appointment came after a growing cry — mostly from Democrats — for someone outside the Justice Department to handle the probe. Attorney General Jeff Sessions had already recused himself from the investigation.

Mueller led the FBI through the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and served under presidential administrations of both parties.

For the inquiry into the 2016 election, Mueller has the authority to prosecute any crimes uncovered during this investigation, and he was given wide authority to investigate whether Trump or his associates colluded with the Kremlin to win the White House.

Several have been charged
In his leading role, Mueller took over an ongoing investigation into Paul Manafort's financial dealings in Ukraine.

Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chairman, and Richard Gates were indicted on Oct. 27 on multiple counts, including: conspiracy against the U.S., conspiracy to launder money, false statements and failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts. Manafort and Gates initially pleaded not guilty to the charges.

Nearly four months later, on Feb. 22, the pair was hit with additional tax evasion and bank fraud charges and the amount of money Manafort was accused of laundering through offshore accounts increased to $30 million.

Gates pleaded guilty to federal conspiracy and false-statements charges on Feb. 23. After the plea, Mueller moved to drop the 22 bank and tax fraud charges against Gates, possibly suggesting that the former Trump campaign official is cooperating and providing good information to Mueller's team.

Mueller also accused Manafort of secretly paying former European politicians to lobby on behalf of Ukraine. Manafort has continued to maintain his innocence, pleading not guilty to the charges in federal court on March 8.

In June 2018, Mueller's team brought additional charges of obstruction of justice against Manafort and Konstantin Kilimnik, an associate.

Michael Flynn, the administration’s short-lived national security adviser, was charged in December with lying to the FBI about certain conversations he had with a Russian ambassador. He pleaded guilty.

Additionally, George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty in 2017 to one count of making false statements to investigating FBI agents, according to court documents. Papadopoulos was a foreign policy adviser for Trump’s campaign.

Alex van der Zwaan, an attorney, pleaded guilty to lying to investigators about Gates in the Russia inquiry. In April 2018, he was sentenced to 30 days in prison, making him the first to be sentenced in the investigation. He was released from prison on June 4 and turned over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials.

Richard Pinedo, a California man who sold bank accounts to Russians meddling in the election, pleaded guilty in February 2018 to using stolen identities to set up the accounts. The U.S. government said Pinedo was not aware he was dealing with Russians when he sold the accounts, however.

Three Russian entities and 13 Russian nationals were indicted by a federal grand jury on Feb. 16 for allegedly interfering in the election. Mueller's case alleged those involved had a sophisticated plot to wage “information warfare” on the U.S.

However, the Justice Department did not say the actions had an impact on the outcome of the election. Deputy Attorney Gen. Rod Rosenstein said, "There is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity."

The Justice Department on July 13 announced that 12 Russian intelligence officers were indicted for allegedly hacking the Democratic National Committee, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and Hillary Clinton's campaign during the 2016 election.

All 12 are members of GRU, the Russian intelligence agency.

The indictments, which stem from Mueller’s probe into Russia’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, were announced by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.

Has Trump been questioned?
The president has not been questioned by Mueller or his team yet.

However, The New York Times has obtained questions Mueller has provided to Trump’s lawyers that he wants the president to answer. The questions include information related to Flynn, Sessions, fired FBI Director James Comey, former deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe and his campaign’s connections to Russia, including the now-infamous Trump Tower meeting with Manafort, Donald Trump, Jr., the president’s oldest son, and Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya.

“So disgraceful that the questions concerning the Russian Witch Hunt were ‘leaked’ to the media. No questions on Collusion,” Trump said in a tweet. “Oh, I see … you have a made up, phony crime, Collusion, that never existed, and an investigation begun with illegally leaked classified information. Nice!”

What's this we keep hearing about a controversy with Mueller’s staff?
The Trump administration has sharply criticized Mueller’s investigation, as several of his attorneys on staff donated to Democratic campaigns, including to Trump’s 2016 rival, Hillary Clinton.

Additionally, two FBI officials – Peter Strzok and Lisa Page – are under fire for the anti-Trump text messages they exchanged during the election. Strzok was part of Mueller’s team but was removed after the text messages were revealed.

What has Trump said about Mueller’s investigation?
Trump has oftentimes dismissed the allegations that he colluded with Russia during the election. He said he is “looking forward” to eventually being questioned under oath by Mueller.

He’s said the allegations are a “fake story that is demeaning to all of us and most of all demeaning to our country and demeaning to our Constitution.”

"I just hope the final determination is a truly honest one, which is what the millions of people who gave us our big win in November deserve and what all Americans who want a better future want and deserve," Trump said at a rally in West Virginia last year.

The president also warned Mueller to stay within certain boundaries as he investigates.

Trump and Mueller have sent messages “back and forth,” according to Trump’s outside counsel. A spokesman for Mueller told Fox News that the messages have been “very professional.”

Fox News' Madeline Farber, Jake Gibson and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...estigation-what-to-know/ar-AAA2jBV?ocid=ientp
 

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I'm listening to the Dan Bongino Show, episode 762 - he asserts that Jim Jordan revealed some huge information yesterday in his questioning of Sztrok by asking him how many versions of the Dossier exist. His assertion is that the FBI may have opened the investigation/FISA applications using even worse "dossier" information than the one released to Buzzfeed...and by worse, he means more ridiculous and nothing worthy of an investigation, let alone a FISA application.