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Better get to the farm supply stores while you can. Pretty soon, the communists will stop caring about animals too.
 

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Try a smaller order?
 

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Try a smaller order?
Sounds like a bigger order might work better?

The letter says, "because these drugs are not in compliance with the law AND valued at less than $2500 or less, they are subject to refusal to admission to the United States, and are subject to administrative destruction."

The "and" means that both things must apply.

Or maybe being valued over $2500 is when they go ahead and deliver it, but the instant you touch the pkg, they swoop in on ya. Lol
 

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Better get to the farm supply stores while you can. Pretty soon, the communists will stop caring about animals too.
We have a chain of supply stores here...Murdoch's, they're all over Montana. They all carry horse supplies - for hobby ranches; every bankster's wife from Seattle or Portland or wherever, has to have a horse. The princess, too.

So I had no trouble getting **THE PASTE** until it started getting publicity.

Here in town, they're out, and seems like, aiming to stay out.

South of here, Hamilton, is also out.

North of here, Polson...interestingly, they have a metric schitt-ton of it. A big bin four layers deep. My guess: First, Polson is on the edge of the Flathead Indian Reservation. Second, unlike most Indian reservations, the Flathead Joint Council (multi-tribe reservation) allows non-Indians to own land within the Reservation, subject to their tribal and council laws.

Polson is on the shore of Flathead Lake and with some pretty dramatic scenery. Pretty spendy spreads.

So...however it happened, the horses there get wormed, and the help on the hobby ranches, get to remain Wu Flu free.
 

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Wow!

This the same customs facility and about the same time-frame as my IVM/HCQ order, which they opened, sealed-up and passed through.

Different shipper, so maybe it has to do with product labeling issues?
Different person.

New regulations; not clear...as is always the case with new regulatory fiat. One package got through, another one was destroyed.

When they finally decide on a course, it WILL be to NOT let them through.
 

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How soon before all the horses get sick?
 

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I gots my order the other day, zero issues. Tanks for the information.
 

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I'm a week out from receiving my 3rd emedsMart order if it arrives quick. The previous 2 orders were double bagged plastic and because contents are blister pack pills in good shape. No evidence of being opened and retaped I can see and I've had to drive to Post Office to p/u if I wasn't home. The Customs Label does state it is prescription Medicine for personnel use.
 

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That is basically what my package looked like.
 

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An online scrabble buddy in Quebec received his order from emedsmart a few days ago - took 5 weeks to get there - no issues.
 

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Sounds like a bigger order might work better?

The letter says, "because these drugs are not in compliance with the law AND valued at less than $2500 or less, they are subject to refusal to admission to the United States, and are subject to administrative destruction."

The "and" means that both things must apply.

Or maybe being valued over $2500 is when they go ahead and deliver it, but the instant you touch the pkg, they swoop in on ya. Lol
Probably the latter and charged with intent to distribute. I’m sure the goons would love to “make an example” out of someone. SMH..:
 

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Doubt it's a problem for smaller orders. I've had a order of testosterone seized in the past and it's a Stage 3 Controlled Drug. I'd worry more about that than a drug that the FDA is declaring 'not labeled correctly'. IF you had a huge order maybe a problem but little 'baggies' of a handful of 'legal' drugs no biggie IMO.
 

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Wow!

This the same customs facility and about the same time-frame as my IVM/HCQ order, which they opened, sealed-up and passed through.

Different shipper, so maybe it has to do with product labeling issues?

It could've been a worker who is intelligent and sympathetic. I would've let it pass too.
 

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I have had a few shipments seized by customs from time to time and received letters saying that I can not import drugs without a license and I better stop. However I have had more come through than not. Some have been opened and resealed.
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Anybody else have a shipment stuck forever in Delhi?


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I found this to be an interesting video but also long and a little difficult to follow. Might have to watch again to really understand. He is not really anti-vax but he is pro-Ivermectin and proposes the method of how it works.

 

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Interesting read on how IVM was controlled in South Africa and some American stats. Funny how the people in South Africa figured out the effectiveness of IVM and the Sheep here stayed asleep. IF we're complaining about the restrictions on IVM here you haven't seen anything yet, source it by any means necessary .Big Pharma must have been happy with the regulatory restriction.
 
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I found this to be an interesting video but also long and a little difficult to follow. Might have to watch again to really understand. He is not really anti-vax but he is pro-Ivermectin and proposes the method of how it works.


I wonder what steroid(s) would go with the IVM? Budesonide?
 

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Went thru the 9pgs he posted. Basically no prophylaxis IVM, then after Day 5 he finally received IVM and dosed too little and then quit after he ran out (just three tubes between wife and him). He's big guy (#255) so heavy doses really ate thru his supply!!! Couple of knowledgeable guys over there commented (tough love) about this: general advice was Aquirre calls for IVM past the 5-days when symptoms clear. He also nebulized but again too little/too late and no HP. One commentor told him to NOT prone sleep when infected!, also 2hrs. between Vit C & B10, also 2hrs between vitC & zinc? He also quite quercetin at some point?. He's home after 2 runs to hospital and 2nd they put a tube into lungs after he had lung collapse when home. Don't be this guy!!!

Also checked latest Jeff Prather and his show was short (30min) and wife in room as he has a nasal O2 but says on-mend. Said Deep State didn't kill him in 2009 so he'll survive.
https://jeffreyprather.com/exclusive-us-to-sneak-into-afghanistan/
Checked latest (9th) Jeff Prather Show and still on oxygen but sounding and looking better. Good to see him get on top of Covid.

 

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Money over human life! This is medicine and Science represents today!

Damning’ Ivermectin Tape Exposes Pressure by Big Pharma to Suppress Ivermectin, RFK, Jr.’s New Book Reveals

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.’s new book, “The Real Anthony Fauci,” includes a revealing transcript — printed here — of a conversation with Dr. Andrew Hill, who admitted to caving to pressure to downplay the benefits of ivermectin as a COVID treatment.


By Neville Hodgkinson

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Dr. Andrew Hill, author of a favorable analysis of ivermectin studies.

He had subsequently performed a “neck-wrenching” U-turn on the issue, claiming the studies comprised “low certainty” of value and that more trials were needed.
Lawrie was trying to persuade Hill to participate in and co-author an immediate review of all published ivermectin studies in the medical literature, to be conducted by the eminent Cochrane Network, which uses thousands of volunteers to make high-quality, independent treatment recommendations.

“It was an exciting opportunity,” Kennedy writes. “Under normal circumstances, Hill should have pounced on this chance to serve as lead author with some of the world’s most prestigious researchers. He was nevertheless noncommittal.

The article states that Lawrie spoke to Hill by Zoom and the call was recorded.

“Dr Lawrie asked Hill to explain his U-turn on ivermectin, which his own analysis found overwhelmingly effective. ‘How can you do this?’ she inquired politely. ‘You are causing irreparable harm.’Hill explained that he was in a ‘tricky situation’ because his sponsors had put pressure on him. Hill is a University of Liverpool virologist who serves as an adviser to Bill Gates and the Clinton Foundation. He told me his sponsor was Unitaid.

“Unitaid is a quasi-governmental advocacy organization funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation (BMGF) and several countries — France, the United Kingdom, Norway, Brazil, Spain, the Republic of Korea and Chile — to lobby governments to finance the purchase of medicines from pharmaceutical multinationals for distribution to the African poor.

“Its primary purpose seems to be protecting the patent and intellectual property rights of pharmaceutical companies — which, as we shall see, is the priority passion for Bill Gates — and to ensure their prompt and full payment.About 63 percent of its funding comes from a surtax on airline tickets.

“The BMGF holds a board seat and chairs Unitaid’s Executive Committee, and the BMGF has given Unitaid $150 million since 2005. Various Gates-funded surrogate and front organizations also contribute, as does the pharmaceutical industry.

“The BMGF and Gates personally own large stakes in many of the pharmaceutical companies that profit from this boondoggle. Gates also uses Unitaid to fund corrupt science by tame and compromised researchers like Hill that legitimizes his policy directives to the WHO.

“Unitaid gave $40 million to Andrew Hill’s employer, the University of Liverpool, four days before the publication of Hill’s study. Hill, a Ph.D., confessed that the sponsors were pressuring him to influence his conclusion. When Dr. Lawrie asked who was trying to influence him, Hill said, ‘I mean, I, I think I’m in a very sensitive position here …’”

Please take the time to read the article in the top link. You won’t regret it. It’s all right there. Conflicts of interest and researchers cow-towing to ‘the powers that be.’ In this case everyone’s genuflecting to Unitaid.

Best quote:
“Yeah. Well, I don’t know how you sleep at night, honestly.” – Dr. Tess Lawrie

https://madisonarealymesupportgroup.com/2021/12/07/damning-ivermectin-tape-laws-needed-now-patients-speak-ivermectin-for-covid-works/
 

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Here’s a portion transcript of the conversation between Lawrie and Hill: read full transcript at link below

Lawrie: Lots of people are in sensitive positions; they’re in hospital, in ICUs dying, and they need this medicine.

Hill: Well …

Lawrie: This is what I don’t get, you know, because you’re not a clinician. You’re not seeing people dying every day. And this medicine prevents deaths by 80 percent.So 80 percent of those people who are dying today don’t need to die because there’s ivermectin.

Hill: There are a lot, as I said, there are a lot of different opinions about this. As I say, some people simply …

Lawrie: We are looking at the data; it doesn’t matter what other people say. We are the ones who are tasked with looking at the data and reassuring everybody that this cheap and effective treatment will save lives. It’s clear. You don’t have to say, well, so-and-so says this, and so-and-so says that. It’s absolutely crystal clear. We can save lives today. If we can get the government to buy ivermectin.

Hill: Well, I don’t think it’s as simple as that, because you’ve got trials …

Lawrie: It is as simple as that. We don’t have to wait for studies … we have enough evidence now that shows that ivermectin saves lives, it prevents hospitalization. It saves the clinical staff going to work every day and being exposed. And frankly, I’m shocked at how you are not taking responsibility for that decision.
And you still haven’t told me who is [influencing you]? Who is giving you that opinion?Because you keep saying you’re in a sensitive position. I appreciate you are in a sensitive position, if you’re being paid for something and you’re being told [to support] a certain narrative … that is a sensitive position.
So, then you kind of have to decide, well, do I take this payment? Because in actual fact, [you] can see [your false] conclusions are going to harm people. So maybe you need to say, I’m not going to be paid for this.
I can see the evidence, and I will join the Cochrane team as a volunteer, like everybody on the Cochrane team is a volunteer. Nobody’s being paid for this work.

Hill: I think fundamentally, we’re reaching the [same] conclusion about the survival benefit. We’re both finding a significant effect on survival.

Lawrie: No, I’m grading my evidence. I’m saying I’m sure of this evidence. I’m saying I’m absolutely sure it prevents deaths. There is nothing as effective as this treatment. What is your reluctance? Whose conclusion is that?

Hill complains again that outsiders are influencing him.

Lawrie: You keep referring to other people. It’s like you don’t trust yourself. If you were to trust yourself, you would know that you have made an error and you need to correct it because you know, in your heart, that this treatment prevents death.

Hill: Well, I know, I know for a fact that the data right now is not going to get the drug approved.

Lawrie: But, Andy — know this will come out. It will come out that there were all these barriers to the truth being told to the public and to the evidence being presented. So please, this is your opportunity just to acknowledge [the truth] in your review, change your conclusions, and come on board with this Cochrane Review, which will be definitive. It will be the review that shows the evidence and gives the proof. This was the consensus on Wednesday night’s meeting with 20 experts.

Hill protests that the U.S. National Institutes of Health will not agree to recommend ivermectin.

Lawrie: Yeah, because the NIH is owned by the vaccine lobby.

Hill: That’s not something I know about.

Lawrie: Well, all I’m saying is this smacks of corruption and you are being played.

Hill: I don’t think so.

Lawrie: Well then, you have no excuse because your work in that review is flawed. It’s rushed. It is not properly put together.

Lawrie points out that Hill’s study ignores a host of clinical outcomes that affect patients. She scolds Hill for ignoring the beneficial effects of ivermectin as prophylaxis, its effect on speed to testing negative for the virus, on the need for mechanical ventilation, on reduced admissions to intensive care, and other outcomes that are clinically meaningful.

This is bad research … bad research. So, at this point, I don’t know … you seem like a nice guy, but I am really, really worried about you.

Hill: Okay. Yeah. I mean, it’s, it’s a difficult situation.

Lawrie: No, you might be in a difficult situation. I’m not, because I have no paymaster. I can tell the truth. How can you deliberately try and mess it up … you know?

Hill: It’s not messing it up. It’s saying that we need, we need a short time to look at some more studies.

Lawrie: So, how long are you going to let people carry on dying unnecessarily – up to you? What is, what is the timeline that you’ve allowed for this, then?…

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/ivermectin-big-pharma-rfk-jr-the-real-anthony-fauci/
 

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2nd portion conversation between Lawrie and Hill:

Hill: Well, I think . . . I think that it goes to WHO [World Health Organization]and the NIH [National Institutes of Health]and the FDA [U.S. Food and Drug Administration] and the EMA [European Medicines Agency]. And they’ve got to decide when they think enough’s enough.

Lawrie: How do they decide? Because there’s nobody giving them good evidence synthesis, because yours is certainly not good.

Hill: Well, when yours comes out, which will be in the very near future … at the same time, there’ll be other trials producing results, which will nail it with a bit of luck. And we’ll be there.

Lawrie: It’s already nailed.

Hill: No, that’s, that’s not the view of the WHO and the FDA.

Lawrie: You’d rather risk loads of people’s lives. Do you know if you and I stood together on this, we could present a united front and we could get this thing. We could make it happen. We could save lives; we could prevent [British National Health Service doctors and nurses] people from getting infected. We could prevent the elderly from dying.

These are studies conducted around the world in several different countries. And they’re all saying the same thing. Plus there’s all sorts of other evidence to show that it works. Randomized controlled trials do not need to be the be-all and end-all. But [even] based on the randomized controlled trials, it is clear that ivermectin works. It prevents deaths and it prevents harms and it improves outcomes for people …
I can see we’re getting nowhere because you have an agenda, whether you like it or not, whether you admit to it or not, you have an agenda. And the agenda is to kick this down the road as far as you can. So … we are trying to save lives. That’s what we do.
I’m a doctor and I’m going to save as many lives as I can. And I’m going to do that through getting the message [out] on ivermectin. Okay. Unfortunately, your work is going to impair that, and you seem to be able to bear the burden of many, many deaths, which I cannot do.

Lawrie then asks again: Would you tell me? I would like to know who pays you as a consultant through WHO?

Hill: It’s Unitaid.

Lawrie: All right. So who helped to … Whose conclusions are those on the review that you’ve done? Who is not listed as an author? Who’s actually contributed?

Hill: Well, I mean, I don’t really want to get into, I mean, it … Unitaid …

Lawrie: I think that . . . it needs to be clear. I would like to know who, who are these other voices that are in your paper that are not acknowledged? Does Unitaid have a say? Do they influence what you write?

Hill: Unitaid has a say in the conclusions of the paper. Yeah.

Lawrie: Okay. So, who is it in Unitaid, then? Who is giving you opinions on your evidence?

Hill: Well, it’s just the people there. I don’t …

Lawrie: So they have a say in your conclusions.

Hill: Yeah.

Lawrie: Could you please give me a name of someone in Unitaid I could speak to, so that I can share my evidence and hope to try and persuade them to understand it?

Hill: Oh, I’ll have a think about who to, to offer you with a name … but I mean, this is very difficult because I’m, you know, I’ve, I’ve got this role where I’m supposed to produce this paper and we’re in a very difficult, delicate balance …

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/ivermectin-big-pharma-rfk-jr-the-real-anthony-fauci/
 

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3rd portion conversation between Lawrie and Hil:


Lawrie: Who are these people? Who are these people saying this?

Hill: Yeah … it’s a very strong lobby …

Lawrie: Okay. Look, I think I can see kind of a dead end, because you seem to have a whole lot of excuses, but, um, you know, that to, to justify bad research practice. So I’m really, really sorry about this, Andy.

I really, really wish, and you’ve explained quite clearly to me, in both what you’ve been saying and in your body language that you’re not entirely comfortable with your conclusions, and that you’re in a tricky position because of whatever influence people are having on you, and including the people who have paid you and who have basically written that conclusion for you.

Hill: You’ve just got to understand I’m in a difficult position. I’m trying to steer a middle ground and it’s extremely hard.

Lawrie: Yeah. Middle ground. The middle ground is not a middle ground … You’ve taken a position right to the other extreme calling for further trials that are going to kill people. So this will come out, and you will be culpable.

And I can’t understand why you don’t see that, because the evidence is there and you are not just denying it, but your work’s actually actively obfuscating the truth. And this will come out. So I’m really sorry … As I say, you seem like a nice guy, but I think you’ve just kind of been misled somehow.

Hill promises he will do everything in his power to get ivermectin approved if she will give him six weeks.

Hill: Well, what I hope is that this, this stalemate that we’re in doesn’t last very long. It lasts a matter of weeks. And I guarantee I will push for this to last for as short amount of time as possible.

Lawrie: So, how long do you think the stalemate will go on for? How long do you think you will be paid to [make] the stalemate go on?

Hill: From my side. Okay … I think end of February, we will be there, six weeks.’

Lawrie: How many people die every day?

Hill: Oh, sure. I mean, you know, 15,000 people a day.

Lawrie: Fifteen thousand people a day times six weeks … because at this rate, all other countries are getting ivermectin except the UK and the USA, because the UK and the USA and Europe are owned by the vaccine lobby.

Hill: My goal is to get the drug approved and to do everything I can to get it approved so that it reaches the maximum …

Lawrie: You’re not doing everything you can, because everything you can would involve saying to those people who are paying you, “I can see this prevents deaths. So I’m not going to support this conclusion any more, and I’m going to tell the truth.”

Hill: What, I’ve got to do my responsibilities to get as much support as I can to get this drug approved as quickly as possible.

Lawrie: Well, you’re not going to get it approved the way you’ve written that conclusion. You’ve actually shot yourself in the foot, and you’ve shot us all in the foot. All of … everybody trying to do something good. You have actually completely destroyed it.

Hill: Okay. Well, that’s where we’ll, I guess we’ll have to agree to differ.

Lawrie: Yeah. Well, I don’t know how you sleep at night, honestly.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/ivermectin-big-pharma-rfk-jr-the-real-anthony-fauci/
 

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Hill: My goal is to get the drug approved
It is already FDA approved, you liar.

Hill strikes me as one of those weasels that claim, "I had no choice!" about some decision. WRONG! You are a human being on a free-will planet. You have complete freedom of choice. You are a liar. With a despicable desire for comfort over service to others.
 

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It is already FDA approved, you liar.

Hill strikes me as one of those weasels that claim, "I had no choice!" about some decision. WRONG! You are a human being on a free-will planet. You have complete freedom of choice. You are a liar. With a despicable desire for comfort over service to others.

In it for the grant money and "prestige."
 

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It is already FDA approved, you liar.
It's not approved for treating Beer Cooties.

And yes, now, writing a prescription "off-label" for uses not approved by our masters in gubbermint, can get a physician's license lifted.

Part of this is the Affordable Care Act. You didn't think they needed 2000 pages to make care affordable, did you? It gives the CDC sweeping authority to set "treatment protocols" during "pandemics." This is the first real test; and what we found, was that Fauci was going to use his dictatorial authority, to make Pfizer and Fauci, rich.

That's right. He is part-owner of the patent for Remdesivir, which shouldn't even BE approved. It's lethal to nearly 50 percent of patients it's given to...just what this psychopath wants.

He gets richer and the planet gets depopulated.

But, to ivermectin...one of the physicians making the rounds, claims there's a separate set of protocols approved recently, that allows ivermectin (but not HCQ) as an alternate. Most physicians don't know of this. I only have the word of a couple of interviewees; but most hospitals and some states, refuse.

And Walgreens and Walmart have solved the ivermectin issue - by no longer stocking it. Because they're onboard with what the Davos boys want.
 

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My son-in-law is sick. He refuses to start ivermectin unless he gets a positive test but at least he started the rest of the protocol already. His results should be back in a few hours. I didn't realize that at his weight one tube of the paste is only 5 days worth. I was lucky and tractor supply had 6 packs of horse paste in. Its not the Duravet, that was sold out but it is legitimate ivermectin horse paste.

 

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Ok....I have a heart specialist, an oncologist, a kidney specialist, and a general practitioner. The GP waits for me to come in once every 6 months and tell him what the others are doing. He treats me for a chronic disease which can kill you, that is separate from everything I see the other 3 doctors for. I am 63. I used to run 3 to 6 miles a day and lifted weights up until my first heart attack at age 50.
My achs and pains keep me more sedimentary than I like, but feet won't support long walks anymore. Pills keep me alive...if I stop them, my health worsens almost immediately. Good nutrition and exercise can only get you so far. Faith will ultimately get you where you want to go. Hanging on to it regardless of falling apart is a true test.
It is up to me to rein the doctors in. I do it constantly.
We can start a club - GP, Urologist, Nephrologist, Cardiologist, Pulmonologist, and of course a dentist. I aint got time to die. I got to keep all these folks employed.
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My son-in-law is sick. He refuses to start ivermectin unless he gets a positive test but at least he started the rest of the protocol already. His results should be back in a few hours. I didn't realize that at his weight one tube of the paste is only 5 days worth. I was lucky and tractor supply had 6 packs of horse paste in. Its not the Duravet, that was sold out but it is legitimate ivermectin horse paste.

Must be a pretty big boy. My dose is a finger nail size dab, not quite a notch on the syringe and I'm just under 3 bills and using EquiMax oral paste. And I only do a prophylactic monthly dose.
Have you checked the math - Man weight vs Horse weight on the box directions and the info sources here ?
 

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Must be a pretty big boy. My dose is a finger nail size dab, not quite a notch on the syringe and I'm just under 3 bills and using EquiMax oral paste. And I only do a prophylactic monthly dose.
Have you checked the math - Man weight vs Horse weight on the box directions and the info sources here ?
For my weight, 225, all the charts call for five notches a dose.

On the latest FLCCC protocols, that's good for The Mask; but after exposure or early symptoms, they recommend doubling the dose.

That's a lot of horse paste. If I do get The Cooties, I'll be deep into my stash.

On the udder hand, if I do get The Cooties, and make it through...it's the end of my worries. The balance of my stash can stay there for the EOTWAWKI event...planned, IIRC, for next year.
 

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Must be a pretty big boy. My dose is a finger nail size dab, not quite a notch on the syringe and I'm just under 3 bills and using EquiMax oral paste. And I only do a prophylactic monthly dose.
Have you checked the math - Man weight vs Horse weight on the box directions and the info sources here ?
Im confused.. Like Casey I thought at 250 lbs her would need 5 notches. Why is your dose so small? Is it the difference in paste?
 

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For my weight, 225, all the charts call for five notches a dose.

On the latest FLCCC protocols, that's good for The Mask; but after exposure or early symptoms, they recommend doubling the dose.

That's a lot of horse paste. If I do get The Cooties, I'll be deep into my stash.

On the udder hand, if I do get The Cooties, and make it through...it's the end of my worries. The balance of my stash can stay there for the EOTWAWKI event...planned, IIRC, for next year.
yikes, I don't know if I'm comfortable doubling it. At 250 that would be TEN notches!! Has anyone been doubling? BTW, the link I posted was 6 tubes for 36 bucks if you want to add some,
 

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yikes, I don't know if I'm comfortable doubling it. At 250 that would be TEN notches!! Has anyone been doubling? BTW, the link I posted was 6 tubes for 36 bucks if you want to add some,

The only time I bump up the dose is if I'm around people that are sick. But we have been using the 1% solution. Seems to go much further.