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IIRC, Trump DID get a lift to New York by the Epstein plane. But also IIRC, Epstein was not on that flight.

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Day 2 of the Ghislaine Maxwell Trial​

Damning victim testimony against Maxwell​

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In 2016, Maxwell said she grew unhappy with Jeffrey Epstein

Day 2 has wrapped-up in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial.

To provide a short background, Day 1 (November 29) involved the final jury selection, opening statements, and the start of the examination of Jeffrey Epstein pilot Larry Visoski.

The opening by the prosecution started with the story of a 14 year-old girl who was groomed and abused by Epstein and Maxwell. The grooming and abuse – the (alleged) modus operandi of the lovers turned abuser and accomplice – is a key part of the prosecution’s case, as it describes what they did to each of the four victims who will be heard from at trial.

Maxwell’s attorney opened by pointing to the real criminal – Epstein – and suggesting Maxwell was the “villainized” scapegoat. It was Maxwell’s “Me Too” moment, her cry of victimhood not only against Epstein but the U.S. Government (and, by extension, her victims). As we predicted, Maxwell’s counsel emphasized that some victims hadn’t mentioned Maxwell in past interviews and were supposedly in this for financial gain:



Epstein’s former pilot, Larry Visoski, provided some notable testimony, identifying Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, Senator John Glenn, Donald Trump, and Kevin Spacey as passengers on Epstein’s plane. Visoski described flights around the country to Epstein’s properties in New Mexico and Florida and New York, and taking Epstein, Maxwell, and one of his assistants, Sarah Kellen, (and the notable politicians/celebrities) on these flights.

Sarah Kellen’s name is significant because she (allegedly) had the same type of role Ghislaine Maxwell had in abusing minor girls – yet she, for some reason, remains free. Kellen was one of the co-conspirators listed in Epstein’s sweetheart non-prosecution agreement with the DOJ and was alleged to have been involved in the alleged sexual abuse on Epstein’s airplane by at least one victim and was likely one of the conspirators referenced in Epstein’s indictment:

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Recall that the Epstein indictment references three female employees who helped him recruit and abuse minors. We suspect this refers to Ghislaine Maxwell, Sarah Kellen, and Nada Marcinkova.

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Will Kellen testify? That would be interesting. I don’t think the prosecution would call her as a witness, but would the defense? Imagine the fireworks.

The First Victim Testifies
Today also saw the testimony of the first victim referenced in the Government’s opening statement (who was 14 years-old at the time of the abuse). Wasting no time, the Government (Comey’s daughter, in fact) went to the heart of the criminal case against Maxwell:

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AUSA Comey: How old were you when you first had sexual contact with Jeffrey Epstein? Jane: 14. AUSA: Who was in the room? Jane: Ghislaine Maxwell. AUSA: Do you see her here? Jane: Yes. There. In sort of a beige turtleneck. AUSA: She has identified the defendant.

November 30th 2021
The victim described coming from a rough background, having a broken home as a teenager, and being groomed by Epstein and Maxwell. Epstein would pay for the victim’s clothes, etc. and Maxwell would encourage and participate in the abuse.

According to the New York Times:
One day when she was still 14, Jane testified, Mr. Epstein told her he could introduce her to talent agents. Then he “abruptly” ended a conversation about her interests and her future and guided her into a pool house, taking her hand and saying “follow me.”
Inside the pool house, Jane said Mr. Epstein led her to a couch or futon and took off his pants. He then pulled her on top of him and “proceeded to masturbate,” she said, speaking in a slow halting voice. After he was done, she added, he went into a bathroom to clean up, then “acted like nothing had happened.”

Getting ahead of the defense line of questioning, the Government asked the victim about her payment from the Epstein Victims’ Compensation Fund. The victim admitted she received about $2.9 million.

On cross-examination, Maxwell’s attorney obtained an admission from the victim that the she didn’t report the abuse for approximately 20 years. The questions from Epstein’s lawyers continued from there, trying to poke holes in issues ancillary to the abuse, such as the victim’s application to a camp. The victim’s testimony stopped at the court’s daily deadline of 5:00 p.m. Cross-examination of the victim will continue tomorrow morning, to be followed by re-direct. It might take all day.

If you’re looking for someone to follow for live updates during the day, Inner City Press is at the courthouse and providing updates on Twitter. Follow them here. And if you’re so inclined, you can support his work on Patreon here.


 

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1414GMT

Before Visoski re-takes the stand (scheduled for 14:30), Judge Nathan brings up again the unidentified juror who'd have to travel between Christmas and New Years.

Maxwell's lawyer Pagliuca: We'd like to know which juror it is, or at least if they are an alternate.

Judge Nathan: I think I have to excuse the juror, if they can't cancel or move the trip. I'll step down.

Clerk Ms. Williams: All rise!

1437GMT

Judge Nathan returns and says: I asked but it seems there is no way to change or move the trip. So I have excused Juror Number 58. The other jurors are ready. Please bring the witness into the box.

Larry Visoski, in the plexiglass witness box, says, "I'm OK."

Assistant US Attorney Maurene Comey: May the witness remove his mask?

Judge Nathan: Yes.

AUSA Comey: Good more, Mister Visoski. What assistants did Mr. Epstein have other than Ms. Maxwell?

Visoski: There were many.

AUSA Comey: Did Ms. Maxwell have assistants?

Visoski: She did.

AUSA Comey: Can you name some assistants?

Visoski: There was a Kimberly and, of course, Sarah Kellen.

AUSA Comey: Is that Ms. Kellen?

[Exhibit is a woman in a bright green dress]

Visoski: Yes.

AUSA Comey: What's this?

Visoski: The entrance to Mr. Epstein's Zorro Ranch... There is a triple-wide trailer with a faux Western facade. We had a runway and a hangar for our aircraft.

AUSA Comey: How many acres was Mr Epstein's ranch?

Visoski: Ten thousand acres.

AUSA Comey: Did you ever go into the main residence.

Visoski: Yes. To pick up luggage, and install electronics. Mr. Epstein was a real audiophile. He also had a home theater with a drop-down screen. He had a little family room off to the side.

AUSA Comey: Turning now to Mr. Epstein's island, what was it called?

Visoski: Little St. James. It was a regular destination. I also flew the helicopter, from St. Thomas to Little St. James. Also, more electronics installation.

AUSA Comey: How else could you get there?

Visoski: Boat.

AUSA Comey: OK, where did you meet Ms. Maxwell?

Visoski: She had a three bedroom apartment, I installed electronics there too. Then she bought her own townhouse.

AUSA: Why did you go there?

Visoski: Luggage.

AUSA Comey: Did Ms. Maxwell ever fly the helicopter?

Visoski: Many times.

AUSA Comey: And what are these photos?

Visoski: That's Mr. Epstein in front of his plane.

[The plane is black and Epstein is standing in front of it in a yellow windbreaker, with a smile.]

AUSA Comey: For Mr. Epstein, did you ever fly to Traverse City, Michigan?

Visoski: Yes. Must have been summer or Fall, cherry season.

AUSA Comey: Where did you pick up his luggage?

Visoski: The Interlochen School of Music [Center for the Arts]

AUSA Maurene Comey: I offer into evidence this stipulation, that the dates of birth of these individuals are correct. We are submitting these under seal. Let the jurors pick up the binders under their chairs, to see the sealed exhibits. But don't open it.

Judge Nathan: And don't put them on the screen. Paper only. [Pause] I need glasses.

AUSA Comey: Government Exhibit 12... Mr. Visoski, is this the name of the female singer you remember being a passenger on Mr. Epstein's plane?

Visoski: Yes.

AUSA Comey: We'll call her Jane. How did you meet her?

Visoski: Mr. Epstein brought her to the cockpit. She had piercing powder blue eyes. AUSA Comey: Do you remember Virginia Roberts?

Visoski: Yes. A shorter woman with dirty blonde hair.

AUSA Comey: Nothing further.

Judge Nathan: You may cross examine.

Maxwell's lawyer Christian R. Everdell: You started working for Mr. Epstein with Dave Rogers, correct?

Visoski: Yes.

Everdell: And he let you use the restroom?

Visoski: Yes. Like I need to now.

1550GMT

Judge Nathan: OK, looks like it's time for our mid-morning break.

Everdell: One last question before we break - did you walk through the cabin?

Visoski: Yes, in the Gulf Stream.

Everdell: Take a break.

Clerk: All rise!

30 Min Recess

1612GMT

Judge Nathan: I hope you had a pleasant and TIMELY break, jurors. You may proceed.

Maxwell's lawyer Everdell: I trust you're feeling better.

Visoski: Much better.

Everdell: So you walked through the Gulf Stream to use the restroom, correct?

Visoski: Yes.

Everdell: If Mr. Epstein were engaging in sex acts with underage girls he probably would have told you not to leave the cockpit, correct?

Objection!

Judge Nathan: Overruled.

Visoski: Correct.

Everdell: So this was before cell phones, and you were using beepers, correct? Visoski: Yes. I'd recognize Mr. Epstein's number.

Everdell: And you'd mostly hear about flights from Ghislaine if she was going to be on them, right?

Visoski: Mostly.

Everdell: So former President Bill Clinton flew on the plane, right?

Visoski: Yes.

Everdell: And you were told to clean up.

Visoski: Yes.

Everdell: But some passengers, you were never told the names, right?

Visoski: Correct.

Everdell: I want to ask you about a few specific flights. You mentioned Interlochen, the arts center. Did you know that Epstein himself attended the summer camp, when he was a child?

Visoski: I was not.

Everdell: On your flights to Interlochen, wasn't Itzhak Perlman on one?

Visoski: Yes he was.

Everdell: And Epstein had a cabin there, right?

Visoski: Yes.

Everdell: And you flew Mr. Epstein to Columbus, Ohio to see Les Wexner, right?

Visoski: Yes.

Everdell: And the women we're calling Jane, you knew her real name, right?

Visoski: I do.

Everdell: And beyond the striking blue eyes, you have said she had large breasts, right?

Visoski: She was a mature woman.

Everdell: I'm sorry, we're having a choreography issue.

Judge Nathan: Can we move past it without sending the jurors back into the jury room?

Everdell: Yes, as long as I can return to it.

Judge Nathan: We'll just take a five minute break now.

Clerk: All rise!

5 Min Recess

1703GMT

Jury returns late.

Judge Nathan: Well at least you're getting your steps in. Please proceed.

Everdell: So there were others in Epstein's world who had the same name as the person we are calling Jane?

Visoski: Yes.

Everdell: Like sealed exhibit LV3a and LV3b

Maxwell's lawyer Everdell: Are you familiar with Prince Andrew?

Visoski: Yes.

Everdell: And he flew on Mr. Epstein's plane, right?

Visoski: He did.

Maxwell's lawyer Everdell: Are you familiar with Annie Farmer?

Visoski: I've heard the name. But I don't know of any record.

Everdell: Put up LV4 and LV5. Mr. Visoski, do you see the documents, with names?

Visoski: Yes.

Judge Nathan: Admitted under seal.

Everdell: The person we're calling Kate, her real name is on LV4, right?

Visoski: I don't remember that name at all.

Everdell: You've mentioned Bill Clinton, Itzhak Perlman, Prince Andrew... Did Donald Trump fly on Epstein's plane?

Visoski. Yes, he did.

Everdell: And John Glenn and George Mitchell flew on Epstein's plane, right?

Visoski: Yes.

Everdell: And Kevin Spacey?

Visoski: Yes.

Everdell: After first staying in a hotel, did Mr. Epstein put you up in an apartment?

Visoski: Yes. At 301 East 66 Street. Sarah Kellen stayed there too. And the person who's name we can't say, LV3a.

Everdell: But not Jane, right?

Visoski: I did not see Jane.

Everdell: The green sports car, who gave it to Mr. Epstein?

Visoski: Les Wexner.

Everdell: And Mr. Epstein gave you 40 acres of land in New Mexico, on which to build your home?

Visoski: Yes.

Everdell: And he paid your two children's college tuition?

Visoski: Yes.

Everdell: He cared about your daughters when they were in college, right?

Visoski: And even when they were younger.

Everdell: And Mr. Epstein had back problems and needed massages, right?

Visoski: Yes.

Everdell: He used 10,000 Waves Studio in Santa Fe, yes?

Visoski: Yes.

Everdell: And when he met him, Epstein's girl friend was Eva Andersson-Dubin, right?

Visoski: Yes.

Everdell: And Ms. Maxwell just worked for him?

Visoski: It seemed that way.

Everdell: Later, whatever personal relationship existed between Mr. Epstein and Ms. Maxwell fizzled out, right?

Visoski: Yes, in the 2000s.

Everdell: And Epstein brought in others, like personal assistant Sarah Kellen, right?

Visoski: Yes.

1743GMT

Everdell: And later Ghislaine was in a relationship with Ted Waitt, CEO of Gateway Computers, right?

Visoski: Yes.

Everdell: She introduced you to Mr. Waitt's pilot, right?

Visoski: Yes.

Everdell: Good time for a break.

Judge Nathan: Done.

Recess

1836GMT

Epstein's pilot Visoski still on the stand. AUSA asks Judge to tell court arts not to sketch some witnesses.

Judge Nathan: Mr. Everdell, you may continue with your cross examination of Mr Visoski. And Mr. Visoski, I remind you that you are under oath.

Maxwell's lawyer Everdell: People liked to go hiking on the Zorro Ranch, right?

Visoski: Yes.

Everdell: But since there were snakes, one needed boots, right?

Visoski: Yes, that would be preferred.

Everdell: And you never saw Ghislaine looking pregnant, did you?

Visoski: I never did.

Everdell: And Ghislaine seemed like a nice person to you, did she not?

Visoski: She did.

Everdell: And you have two daughters - and you let them ride horses with Ghislaine, right?

Visoski: I did.

Everdell: You saw nothing in 30 years that made you think Mr. Epstein was an abuser, right?

Visoski: I did not.

Everdell: Nothing further.

Judge Nathan: Re-direct.

AUSA Maurene Comey: Did you let your 14 year old daughter massage Mr. Epstein?

Visoski: I did not.

AUSA Comey: Nothing further. And we call our next witness, "Jane."

Judge Nathan: I order the sketch artist not to accurately depict the witness. AUSA Comey: What is Government Exhibit 12, under seal?

"Jane" - It is my birth certificate.

AUSA Comey: How old were you when you first had sexual contact with Jeffrey Epstein?

Jane: 14.

AUSA: Who was in the room?

Jane: Ghislaine Maxwell.

AUSA: Do you see her here?

Jane: Yes. There. In sort of a beige turtleneck.

AUSA: She has identified the defendant.

AUSA Comey: What type of work did your father do?

Jane: He was a musical composer. Then he died of leukemia. His employer had canceled his health insurance without him knowing. We essentially went bankrupt and had to move out.

AUSA Comey: When you were at Interlochen, did you meet a couple?

Jane: Yes. The woman had a dog and the man said they were big benefactors. They asked for my mother's phone number. A landline.

AUSA Comey: When you visited, what do you remember about spending time at the pool?

Jane: There were four woman and Ghislaine, all topless and some of them were naked. I was shocked. I hadn't seen that before. Maxwell would ask me if I had boyfriends.

AUSA Comey: Did Epstein begin to pay for things for you?

Jane: Voice lessons. Clothes. Things for school.

AUSA: Did Ms Maxwell give you some advice?

Jane: That if you fck them you can always fck them, they're sort of grandfathered in. I didn't know what it meant

AUSA: What did they tell you about their social circle?

Jane: Donald Trump. Bill Clinton. Mike Wallace.

AUSA: How was the house decorated?

Jane: Art, sculptures. Pictures of famous people, presidents. I thought some of the art was odd - naked women, creepy animals

Pseudonymous witness "Jane" - Epstein took me into the pool house. He proceeded to masturbate on me. Then he went into the bathroom & cleaned himself & acted like nothing happened. I'd never seen that before.

AUSA: Did you keep spending time with them?

Jane: Yes.

Pseudonymous witness "Jane" - Jeffrey [Epstein] proceeded to masturbate again. Ghislaine was rubbing on him, kissing on him.

AUSA: How old were you?

Jane: Fourteen.

AUSA: What was Ms. Maxwell's demeanor like?

Jane: She was very casual, like this was entirely normal. I was confused. When you are 14 you have no idea what is going on.

AUSA: Did Jeffrey Epstein touch you?

Jane: Yes. Everywhere.

AUSA: Did you touch Mr. Epstein?

Jane: [pause] Everywhere.

AUSA: I'm sorry to ask you this, but did he use sex toys?

Jane: Yes. Like those back massagers. They were painful. He did it anyway.

AUSA: Did Maxwell touch your body?

Jane: Yes.

AUSA: How often did these things happen?

Jane: Every time I visited his house.

AUSA: Did you travel to his other homes?

Jane: Yes.

AUSA: We'll back back to that. When other people were present, how did incidents start?

Jane: Jeffrey would say, follow him.

AUSA: Follow him where?

Jane: To his bedroom. Or to the massage room. He would get on the massage table and it would sort of turn into this orgy.

AUSA: How often was Maxwell present?

Jane: I can't give a precise number.

AUSA: During the incident when you were 14, was Maxwell in the room? Jane: Yes.

AUSA: When you were 14, 15 and 16 how many times did you travel with them?

Jane: About ten times. To NYC, and New Mexico. On Jeffrey's plane.

AUSA: What kind of art work did they have?

Jane: Yes, it was weird. Animal heads. Naked women. Orgies. It didn't seem very unusual at this point.

AUSA: How did you feel, in the New York house?

Jane: Like someone was always watching you.

AUSA: What would Epstein asked you to do?

Jane: To straddle his face. To pinch his nipples.

AUSA: Were there times that Maxwell was present?

Jane: Yes.

AUSA: In the NY house, where did this happen?

Jane: In the massage room.

AUSA: On the trip to New Mexico, where did you spend most of your time?

Jane: On the ranch. It was in the middle of nowhere.

AUSA: Did anyone come into your room?

Jane: Yes. Someone came in and said, Jeffrey wants to see you and escorted me to see him.

Jane (sobbing) I did not want to go see him.

AUSA: Who told you Epstein wanted to see you?

Jane: Don't know. I had to fly back to Florida to go to school. I took a commercial flight. But I was only 15 and didn't even have a [drivers] learner's permit.

Jane: So I couldn't get on the flight back to Florida, having no ID. I freaked out. But Maxwell helped solve it. She talked to someone & I got on the plane.

AUSA: What was your home life like at the time?

Jane: We were losing our home. We moved into a pool house.

Jane: My mom was enamored by the idea that these affluent people were taking an interest in me --

Maxwell's lawyer: Objection! Hearsay!

AUSA: It's for the effect on the listener.

2011GMT

Judge Nathan: You may ask that question. But not what the mother said.

AUSA: Could we approach?

Judge Nathan: The jurors' snacks are here. Let's take a 10 minute break.

2037GMT

Judge Nathan: Jurors, you will hear what the witness' mother said. That is not offered for the truth of the matter asserted, but for the impact on the witness. You may proceed.

AUSA: What did your mother say?

Jane: That I should be grateful for their attention.

AUSA: Did you tell your siblings about the abuse?

Jane: No. I was ashamed. And I had a manic-depressed mother who didn't know how to cope. [sobs] It seemed hopeless.

Jane: I spoke to my school guidance counselor, who then called my mother. My mother told me, You don't talk about what happens at home and embarrass us.

AUSA: Jane, what kind of work do you do now?

Jane: I am still an actor. I got work in LA. But I didn't know how to trust, how to reciprocate.

AUSA: When did you stop being in touch with Jeffrey Epstein?

Jane: In 2002. I fell in love with someone.

Jane: Epstein kept calling me and saying he wanted to see me, that I needed to be grateful to him, that my mother was living in one of his apartment. Do you want me to continue?

AUSA: Was that the last time?

Jane: Yes.

AUSA: Later did you tell the man I'll call Matt about Epstein?

Jane: Yes. Not in detail. But I did. By then you saw Epstein on the TV all the time. He had been arrested.

AUSA: Did the FBI interview you in September 2019?

Jane: Yes.

Jane: May 2019.

AUSA: Did you sue Ghislaine Maxwell?

Jane: Yes. In 2020.

AUSA: And the Epstein Victims' Fund?

Jane: Yes. They awarded me $5 million. Of that, I got approximately $2.9 million.

AUSA: Would the verdict in this case impact that?

Objection!

Sidebar.

They're back.

AUSA: Would a verdict here impact that?

Jane: No.

Judge Nathan: This is not a legal opinion.

AUSA: Why do you want to be anonymous?

Jane: Because I work in Hollywood and victim shaming is still the norm.

AUSA: No further questions.

Judge Nathan: Ms. Menninger you may cross examine.

Maxwell's lawyer Menninger: You waited 20 years to complain, correct?

Jane: Correct.

Menninger: Two full decades before your first report to the police. By then Mr. Epstein was dead, correct?

Jane: Correct.

Menninger: And you had two personal injury attorneys with you. Mr. Glaxman and Mr. Workman. And AUSA Moe.

Jane: Yes.

Menniger: In the 20 years, you spoke to several people close to you. To the person we're referring to as Matt. Your sister Camilla-

Objection!

There is a sidebar.

Now they return.

Menninger: You told one of your older sisters, right?

Jane: Right.

Menninger: But you didn't mention Ghislaine Maxwell, correct?

Jane: I don't know.

Menninger: You have four older sibling?

Jane: One older sibling, three older half siblings.

Menninger: Show the witness 3509-008.

Objection! She'd just reading document not in evidence. She can refresh -

Menninger: I'm not refreshing, I'm impeaching.

Judge Nathan: Well, you're not impeaching yet, Ms. Menninger. The objection is sustained. I'm going to reach the document to myself.

Menninger: You told Ms. Moe you lived in the same house --

US: Objection! No foundation.

Menninger: I wasn't going to ask for the street address, I was going to ask if she knows it, where the country club is.

Jane: I don't know. I've never been to a country club.

Menninger: I'd like to show the witness another sealed document.

Jane: I recognize my mother's signature and mine. But I don't recognize the document.

Menninger: What do you believe this document to be?

AUSA: Objection!

Judge Nathan: Sustained.

Menninger: How about this page?

Judge Nathan: You should do this on paper, I always thought that was a better idea, not the screen. So this is J-5? And the question is, do you recognize the document?

Jane: I do. It's the application for Interlochen camp.

Menninger: And is your signature on the 2d page?

Jane: Yes. It's dated 5/7/94.

Menninger: Before you met Jeffrey Epstein, right? Did you apply for financial aid or scholarship?

AUSA: Let them offer it into evidence. Under seal.

Judge Nathan: So ordered.

Menninger: You did not apply for aid.

Jane: I guess not. I was a child.

Judge Nathan: It's 5 o'clock and we're going to break.

Clerk: All rise!

Jury leaves.

Judge Nathan: No communication on substance between US and witness, since she's under cross. Be seated.

Judge Nathan: We have some matters to take up.

AUSA: The defense never showed up these documents. It violated Rule 16. Maxwell's lawyer: The rule does not apply.

AUSA: Then it's not admissible.

Judge Nathan: It's one page of J-36? How does it impeach?

Defense: It shows the street she lives on.

Judge Nathan: It's a current photo. It is not impeaching.

AUSA: It's in violation of Rule 16. We would ask that the Court direct them to produce it forthwith.

Defense: But today's we've seen, and you've admitted, a photo of the Epstein home today.

Judge Nathan: But they had a witness saying it's fair and accurate representation.

AUSA: We'll brief it. [and we'll report on it]

Judge Nathan: Both sides should put in letters by 9 pm (2am GMT) tonight. Now we have to deal with the identifying information.

AUSA: We will speak with the defense about it, this evening.

Judge Nathan: The witness is on cross, do you agree they can talk to her? Then raise it to me in a letter tonight.

AUSA: We'll confer right after the court day today and submit letters by 10 pm (3am GMT).

Judge Nathan: Fine.

AUSA: "Matt" will be the next witness.

2223GMT

Judge Nathan: So I'll await your letter today.

Court Adjourned.
 

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What kind of sick bitch actually stands there and watches this abuse go on?

Lock her up in Cell Block D. For good. No parole.
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She would be of more value if they plea bargained and she told all. If this case begins and ends with what is most likely the tip of the iceberg the truth will never be known.
 

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With all these redacted, do not mention, names I am waiting for one of these witnesses, when put under pressure, to start naming real names on the stand and then telling the court that by referring to these people by aliases forces them to violate their oath to tell the truth and the whole truth. That is when this trial will get interesting. The court and the prosecution will have no where to go on this. The judge cannot direct a witness to violate what they believe is their duty to the oath and the prosecution cannot demand that the witness is hostile for being adamant about following their oath. At that point, this is where the whole charade collapses.
 

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I really enjoyed reading the transcripts, and I am looking forward to the subsequent batches.
 

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this woman has to be absolutely dead inside...and since that's not an easy thing to do, she's suffering, mentally, and for that, i'm Grateful!

pile on some more...


yet, my gut tells me, this entire pedo thing is going this particular direction, for a reason...i'm not convinced this isn't all kabuki, produced in a manner to avoid the bulk of the reality of it all
 

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this woman has to be absolutely dead inside...and since that's not an easy thing to do, she's suffering, mentally, and for that, i'm Grateful!

pile on some more...


yet, my gut tells me, this entire pedo thing is going this particular direction, for a reason...i'm not convinced this isn't all kabuki, produced in a manner to avoid the bulk of the reality of it all
You can bet that, no matter how you might thing it's going, it going somewhere else! Nothing is as it seems and logic doesn't always apply in Clown World
 

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So from what I just read this girl knew what she was going to have to do when she met up with Jeff and Gizzy yet kept going back for more until she fell in love. Then it stopped. So basically she is admitting that she could have stopped this at anytime. She's also an actress.. Probably doing a great acting job on stage. She already had one payday for 2.9 million. Probably hoping for an even bigger payday now.

No doubt that Jeff and Gizzy prayed on young vulnerable girls. Threw some cash their way and they were down with whatever. I have yet to see any testimony that the girls were threatened if they refused to come back to Jeff for more "work".

I'm not ok with identities being hidden either. I think the girls would like their identities to remain hidden so the public doesn't find out about them and no one came testify against them. How many childhood friends did they confide in or brag to about all the money they were making?
Momma knew what was going on too. She was pimpin her daughter out if Jeff was paying for her apartment and living expenses.

At 14 I also don't think we are talking about pedophilia here. Under 12, probably. This whole numbers thing is just todays society. 100 years ago and longer it was very common for girls to be married at 13. Look at European history and many kings were marrying 12,13 and 14 year olds all the time. Right or wrong, it's simply the facts.
 

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At 14 I also don't think we are talking about pedophilia here. Under 12, probably.
Each State has their own laws. Depends on the State.
 

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Each State has their own laws. Depends on the State.
I gave my friends GF a ride today to Columbus. She got pregnant at 14. was well aware of what she was doing and wanted to do it. Quit school, got married at 15 and divorced after 2 more kids. No GED but was earning 30 an hr at a corp here in Ohio. She's 26 or 27 now..
Point is these girls are well aware of what they are doing and what the consequences are. Once they have that 1st period they know they are now able to get pregnant.
 

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CL...

there's zero stability that comes from any of this, zero, it's all damaging

ask yourself why, and apply slavery, incitement, immaturity, let's see, there has to be more i could add....

imho, we should never stoop to this level, for anything and when it's found out, others are controlling any of our children, they need to be culled, immediately from the herd


we may be fucked up as a society, but this type of activity doesn't help in any way

it only helps the Masters....we all remain slaves

and choices?

LOL, yeah, uh huh, tell me one of those girls who went to NM had a choice...

it's Wrong

including this charade of a trial...it's being done wrong and no matter what we do, it won't be made whole, we won't be, our society won't be and these 'girls' won't ever be whole, no matter what the outcome or amount of money, they're messed up from this day forward; and their children will suffer too, but few will ever understand why mommy still feels that 'rage'

it maybe called Regret but if this group of creatures had left those high-schoolers alone, we'd not be here
 

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LOL, yeah, uh huh, tell me one of those girls who went to NM had a choice...
C'mon Buck of course they had a choice. Same choice they would have if a 14 yr old boy was tryin to fck em. The difference is one choice they get laid by someone their own age. The other choice they get laid by someone older and get a shit ton of money and world travel as a bonus. Hobnobbing with the rich and famous. The decision they made would have been the same if they were 18 or 30. The girl that hung out with Prince Henry was 17. Surely she had a choice. Not only did they have a choice but apparently some of them recruited others because they were so happy with the choice they made.
Seems like every one of them are doing pretty well financially as well.
I'm not saying it's right, just saying they are all cashing in right now.

Last I read there was almost 700 million in Jeffies account. Thats not counting real estate IIRC. What exactly did this guy do? No one knows and the Gov isn't suspicious? That means it was the Gov behind it all.
 

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'Imperious' Ghislaine Maxwell handed out 58-page manual to staff who worked for Jeffrey Epstein that told them to refer to her as 'lady of the house,' stuff Epstein's car with $100 bills and 'see nothing, say nothing' of pedophile's activities​

  • Jeffrey Epstein's housekeeper Juan Alessi revealed Ghislaine Maxwell's 'imperious' nature after working at their Palm Beach mansion
  • Alessi took the stand on Thursday during the fourth day of Maxwell's sex trafficking trial
  • Alessi revealed Maxwell had handed staff members a 58 page manual that instructed them how to cater to the couple
  • He said that staffers ran the mansion like a 'five star hotel' as they were expected to wash Epstein's car, stuff it with $100 bills, and avoid eye contact with him
  • Maxwell also forbade the staff from fraternizing with the guests as they were told 'see nothing, hear nothing say nothing'
  • 'I was supposed to be blind, deaf and dumb and say nothing of their lives', he said
By TOMMY TAYLOR FOR DAILYMAIL.COM and DANIEL BATES AT THE THURGOOD MARSHALL UNITED STATES COURTHOUSE, NYC, FOR DAILYMAIL.COM and KAYLA BRANTLEY FOR DAILYMAIL.COM and ROSS IBBETSON FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 01:14 EST, 3 December 2021 | UPDATED: 11:05 EST, 3 December 2021

Jeffrey Epstein's former housekeeper revealed the 'imperious' nature of Ghislaine Maxwell while he was employed under the couple.

Juan Alessi, 72, took the stand Thursday during the fourth day of Maxwell's sex trafficking trial and revealed how she wanted the house run like a 'five-star hotel,' which included washing Epstein's car, stuffing it with $100 bills and avoiding eye contact with him, as Maxwell claimed he detested it.

Staff were handed a 58-page 'Household Manual' - dated February 14, 2005 - filled with demands: 'Try and anticipate the needs of Mr. Epstein, Ms. Maxwell and their guests;' 'Do not discuss personal problems with guests;' 'Unobtrusive is the key;' 'SMILE!' and 'NEVER disclose Mr. Epstein or Ms. Maxwell's activities or whereabouts to anyone.'

One bullet on the checklist read: 'See nothing. Say nothing.'

When asked by prosecutor Maurene Comey what he understood that meant, Alessi replied: 'I was supposed to be blind, deaf, to say nothing.'

In the master bedroom, staff were to ensure a gun was placed in a bedside table drawer, shutters were closed, and that reading glasses, eye masks and 'Jeffrey Epstein large and small notepads' were on both bedside tables.

Maxwell demanded the staff use 'proper language' with a list of things 'you don't say': 'Yeah,' 'Sure,' 'No problem,' 'You bet,' 'Gotcha,' 'Right' and 'I dunno.'

When complimented, according to the manual, they should respond: 'You are very kind' and 'Thank, you, Ms. ____. I enjoy doing it.'

Alessi's other duties were to make breakfast at 5 a.m. and bathe Maxwell's dog - a Yorkshire Terrier called Max.

He told the court he was expected to be up at the crack of dawn to make the food rather than Epstein's professional cooks, 'because the chefs have the privilege to sleep in.'

Alessi also said that part of his job was to clean up after Epstein's massages - which he said Maxwell scheduled three times per day and which usually took place in his bathroom.

Asked by the prosecutor if he ever found anything 'unexpected' after the massages, Alessi said that he found a 'large dildo,' describing it as 'a huge man's penis with two heads.'

Alessi did not clarify whether it was the sex toy called a 'Twin Torpedo' referred to by prosecutors in pretrial filings.

Alessi said that he put gloves on and 'ran it under the water and put the dildo in Ms. Maxwell's closet in (her) bathroom' inside of a wicker basket.

Alessi said that he saw 'pornographic tapes and a black leather costume' in the same basket.

He said that three or four other times he found two other sex toys: one that looked 'like a pillow' and another that looked like an 'arm' which had a rubber vibrating part at the end.

He put those items in Epstein's dresser, Alessi said.


a boatload of videos, pics and manual at link
 
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Key moments from the first week of Ghislaine Maxwell's sex trafficking trial

Here are five key moments from the first week of trial:

- In her opening statement, prosecutor Lara Pomerantz called Maxwell a predator who "preyed on vulnerable young girls, manipulated them, and served them up to be sexually abused."

- Defense attorney Bobbi Sternheim countered that Maxwell was being scapegoated since Epstein is no longer alive.

- Lawrence Visoski, Epstein's longtime personal pilot, testified that Britain's Prince Andrew and former U.S. Presidents Bill Clinton and Donald Trump flew on Epstein's plane multiple times.

- Jane, the first of four Maxwell accusers called to testify for the prosecution, teared up as she recounted her repeated abuse by Epstein when she was 14 years old in the mid-1990s.

- Juan Alessi, the longtime house manager at Epstein's Palm Beach estate, recalled cleaning up sex toys from the massage room and storing them in Maxwell's bathroom

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Pakistan shuts down Save the Children offices in Islamabad



The aid charity caught up in the CIA operation to capture Osama bin Laden was ordered out of Pakistan on Thursday after officials accused it of “anti-Pakistan” activities.

The Islamabad headquarters of Save the Children were padlocked by police while a government notification told the group to wind up its operations and ensure that expatriate staff left within 15 days.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/12/pakistan-shuts-down-save-the-children-offices-in-islamabad
https://twitter.com/CarrollQuigley1/status/1009174991814955008

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https://twitter.com/CarrollQuigley1/status/1009296571618471936

SAVE THE CHILDREN – FRONT FOR CIA?
https://thegoodlylawfulsociety.org/save-children-front-cia/
 

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Sean Stone – The Pedo World Is Deep & Wide, Epstein/Maxwell Just The Tip Of The Iceberg​

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Sean Stone is a filmmaker, media host, author, actor, poet, speaker, and above all, truth-seeker and spiritual activist. He has a new documentary out called best kept secret, this documentary lays out the hidden agenda of the dark elite in a six-part documentary series. The documentary visits the dark world of Human trafficking, pedophilia. Sean begins the conversation explaining why he created the documentary Best Kept Secret. Sean explains that the pedo world is deep and wide and politicians, Hollywood and royals are all involved.

 

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Sean Stone – The Pedo World Is Deep & Wide, Epstein/Maxwell Just The Tip Of The Iceberg​

SPREAD THE WORD

Sean Stone is a filmmaker, media host, author, actor, poet, speaker, and above all, truth-seeker and spiritual activist. He has a new documentary out called best kept secret, this documentary lays out the hidden agenda of the dark elite in a six-part documentary series. The documentary visits the dark world of Human trafficking, pedophilia. Sean begins the conversation explaining why he created the documentary Best Kept Secret. Sean explains that the pedo world is deep and wide and politicians, Hollywood and royals are all involved.

Ok...name the names.......zzzzzz
 

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I thought the lolita express passenger list was fairly well known at this point.

Certainly asking Bill Gates and Bill Jeff Clinton for clues can't hurt.
 

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Yeah, but Trump wasn't one of them... so this guy's info is false.
Yup. 100% credibility loss since ANYONE can check the time, destination, and reason for Trump hitching a ride to NY.

Pronouncing Trump a pedophile in the first freaking breath of his accusations puts him it the septic tank.
 

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Just regurgitating media propaganda...
 

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Well... I found out how to pronounce JismLane's name: "Jillayne".