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Due dilligence is commendable, yet when I see DYODD before a post on here, it always raises alarm bells.

There is a line in the Declaration of Independence that says, "we hold these truths to be self evident". If what was being presented was factual and truthful, shouldn't it be self evident with due dilligence not being explicitly required?
 

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Due dilligence is commendable, yet when I see DYODD before a post on here, it always raises alarm bells.

There is a line in the Declaration of Independence that says, "we hold these truths to be self evident". If what was being presented was factual and truthful, shouldn't it be self evident with due dilligence not being explicitly required?
But when it comes to "the law" there are different interpretations and some of those can land you in very hot water in a hurry fostering blame on the "source" of that individuals "understanding" or interpretation.

In other words, only "lawyers" can "legally" give legal advice.
 

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But when it comes to "the law" there are different interpretations and some of those can land you in very hot water in a hurry fostering blame on the "source" of that individuals "understanding" or interpretation.

In other words, only "lawyers" can "legally" give legal advice.
Fair point newmisty.

If every single legal instrument is so open to interpretation, seeking any remedy from any legal/lawful concept is insane.
 

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Law is pretty straightforward. If it's not in the constitution than I just ignore whatever laws are written. Just words on a piece of paper to me. If someone puts some words on paper and says you must pay 500 dollars every time you wipe your butt, are you writing out a check? If they write a law that says guns are illegal are you turning them in? Some laws are just silly and most are just unconstitutional.
 

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Law is pretty straightforward. If it's not in the constitution than I just ignore whatever laws are written. Just words on a piece of paper to me. If someone puts some words on paper and says you must pay 500 dollars every time you wipe your butt, are you writing out a check? If they write a law that says guns are illegal are you turning them in? Some laws are just silly and most are just unconstitutional.
The constitution of any country is subject to interpretation like any other piece of law/legislation. It is also effectively written on a piece of paper. Why place a greater import and/or significance to one bit of paper over another? Please don't take this as me having a go at you, I just find it interesting how some people are selective as to which legal/lawful instruments they respect and adhere to, sometimes based on misguided perceptions.
 

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I welcome the discussion and don't take offense at all.
I think the difference between the constitution and other bits of legislation is that the constitution is supposed to be used as a guide for our government and limit their scope of powers. It lays out certain unalienable rights that we are all born with and contracts the government to secure those rights.
Unfortunately we now have a government that doesn't follow it which is why we are in the mess we are in now. Unfortunately the founding fathers gave its no easy way to enforce this thing. Seems like it grab your guns and lets take our country back or sit around and wait for the dictatorship to completely take control.
 
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I welcome the discussion and don't take offense at all.
I think the difference between the constitution and other bits of legislation is that the constitution is supposed to be used as a guide for our government and limit their scope of powers. It lays out certain unalienable rights that we are all born with and contracts the government to secure those rights.
Unfortunately we now have a government that doesn't follow it which is why we are in the mess we are in now. Unfortunately the founding fathers gave its no easy way to enforce this thing. Seems like it grab your guns and lets take our country back or sit around and wait for the dictatorship to completely take control.
You might wish to read this treatise written in 1870 by Lysander Spooner entitled; No Treason: Constitution of No Authority.

He raises a lot of interesting legal points within this treatise.
One of which is this, if people were free under the original Constitutional government, after the Civil War the people of the South were forced to accept a government which they clearly did not want or choose, and so, from that time forward have been, under tyrannical government rule, and are therefore no longer free.

Also that the Constitution is a self appointed, self signed document, authored by government, not agreed to by anyone, seemingly setting limitations upon themselves. Not really legally binding in any way, upon anyone, which is the reason they are able to circumvent and constantly override their own document with impunity. The reason being, is that, the average person does not understand the law sufficiently to realize they are being conned. Something Lysander Spooner spells out very clearly in his 1870 treatise; No Treason: Constitution of no Authority. Problem being, most people will not take the time to read the document so they likely will never have a clear legal understanding of the facts.

http://files.libertyfund.org/files/2194/Spooner_1485_Bk.pdf

https://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/spooner-no-treason-no-vi-the-constitution-of-no-authority-1870

The story of Alice in Wonderland a children's book is written to describe this very phenomenon.

Here is a quote from build freedom.com

"Practically all humans have been "educated" to believe that they must play silly little games like "U.S.A." throughout their lives. And if they don't like their silly little games, they must change their silly little games, for example, by begging "the most important players" to change some of the rules of their silly little games.

Horror of horrors! Humans are "educated" to believe that their silly little games are real life. They have no idea that what they are doing is just playing a silly, arbitrary, optional game, and that they can play many other games if they wake up. Is it justified to ask whether practically all humans are like characters in an Alice-in-Wonderland dream who never wake up?"

The full text may be read here: A Game Called U.S.A. on the WayBack machine archive of the build freedom.com website.
- https://web.archive.org/web/20000817022624/http://www.buildfreedom.com/tl/tl07.shtml

Some little tid-bits of Bible Wisdom
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Mat 7:14

"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32

Enjoy,

Peace :)
 
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