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Michigan's Crazed Governor Gretchen Whitmer Bans "Travel Between Residences"
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Brandon Caserta, one of the ringleaders of the group of men arrested for a plot where the group planned to kidnap Governor Gretchen Whitmer
Can't say this guy is MAGA. Looks like Antifa to me.
https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1314267058339819520
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Looks like a publicity stunt to me, staged by the left. Think we'll see any of these guys on trial?
At this point half-whit could actually be on fire, yelling "I'm on fire", and nobody would believe her.
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Radio today.
Hosts doing an interesting dance between can't have any violence & she takes every opportunity to crush the people & endrun the constitution.
Pointing out she was in front of cameras. Had some officers on there talking about working with fib & stuff. This si serious. THen story started breaking down. Law said she had known for months & informed her. She said weeks.
Caller 1; What do you expect? Your going to get more and more of this. She is corrupt. Religion is the only thing holding most people back. This was just more of her BS. Ungrateful. Picks fights with Trump instead of running the state. Tryign to endrun the court decision by using the health department. Even the AG has backed off.
Caller 2; Trump should choose his words more carefully.
Caller 3; Woman, The last time they arrested militias in Michigan charges were dropped years later. Remember Waco, Ruby Ridge? These feds are never held accountable they just retire & live off of fat pensions.
Missed a few callers;
Caller 4: She was a Nun......... she did not have 1 good word to say about halfwit.
After work radio host I don't care for. More people calling in saying it is fake, staged, timing after last week when they were demanding Trump denounce white everything & patriot groups. Callers more up to date than the hosts. Guy they show hated Trump etc........
Then the host starts tying Proud Boys & Q to it.
It's all about advancing an agenda.
Hosts doing an interesting dance between can't have any violence & she takes every opportunity to crush the people & endrun the constitution.
Pointing out she was in front of cameras. Had some officers on there talking about working with fib & stuff. This si serious. THen story started breaking down. Law said she had known for months & informed her. She said weeks.
Caller 1; What do you expect? Your going to get more and more of this. She is corrupt. Religion is the only thing holding most people back. This was just more of her BS. Ungrateful. Picks fights with Trump instead of running the state. Tryign to endrun the court decision by using the health department. Even the AG has backed off.
Caller 2; Trump should choose his words more carefully.
Caller 3; Woman, The last time they arrested militias in Michigan charges were dropped years later. Remember Waco, Ruby Ridge? These feds are never held accountable they just retire & live off of fat pensions.
Missed a few callers;
Caller 4: She was a Nun......... she did not have 1 good word to say about halfwit.
After work radio host I don't care for. More people calling in saying it is fake, staged, timing after last week when they were demanding Trump denounce white everything & patriot groups. Callers more up to date than the hosts. Guy they show hated Trump etc........
Then the host starts tying Proud Boys & Q to it.
It's all about advancing an agenda.
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https://twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1314712361031401474
https://justthenews.com/nation/crime/delawares-democrat-governor-2019-pardoned-defendant-michigan-kidnap-plot
https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2020-10/WhitmerPlotFBIComplaint.pdf
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Not Making Headlines: Alleged “Right-wing” Militia Member Arrested for Plot Against Gov. Whitmer Was Black Lives Matter Protester and Sympathizer
On Thursday the FBI announced during a press conference that it thwarted a plot by a so-called “right-wing militia” to kidnap and kill Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and overthrow the state government.
Early Thursday morning, federal agencies raided a house in Hartland, Michigan and arrested six men: Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Ty Garbin, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris, and Brandon Caserta.
Whitmer immediately blamed the plot on President Trump telling the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by.”
“Hate groups heard the president’s words as a rallying cry, as a call to action,” Whitmer said blaming white supremacists.
It turns out Brandon Caserta, one of anarchists who was arrested for plotting to kidnap Whitmer, actually hates President Trump and is on video calling Trump a “tyrant.”
Governor Gretchen Whitmer owes President Trump and his supporters an apology.
The Daily Beast reported — and hid this until the end of the article:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/not-making-headlines-alleged-right-wing-militia-member-arrested-plot-gov-whitmer-black-lives-matter-protester-sympathizer/
On Thursday the FBI announced during a press conference that it thwarted a plot by a so-called “right-wing militia” to kidnap and kill Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and overthrow the state government.
Early Thursday morning, federal agencies raided a house in Hartland, Michigan and arrested six men: Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Ty Garbin, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris, and Brandon Caserta.
Whitmer immediately blamed the plot on President Trump telling the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by.”
“Hate groups heard the president’s words as a rallying cry, as a call to action,” Whitmer said blaming white supremacists.
It turns out Brandon Caserta, one of anarchists who was arrested for plotting to kidnap Whitmer, actually hates President Trump and is on video calling Trump a “tyrant.”
Governor Gretchen Whitmer owes President Trump and his supporters an apology.
The Daily Beast reported — and hid this until the end of the article:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/not-making-headlines-alleged-right-wing-militia-member-arrested-plot-gov-whitmer-black-lives-matter-protester-sympathizer/
Who Could Have Predicted This?
Chris Menahan
InformationLiberation
Oct. 08, 2020
Just two days ago, I wrote an article titled "Remember How The FBI Conveniently Arrested A 'Trump Superfan' For 'Sending Mail Bombs' Right Before The Midterms?" where I went over how suspicious that case was and asked, "What are the odds we'll see a similar event right before the November election?"
Today, the FBI announced they allegedly busted a plot by a "Michigan militia" (loaded with undercover agents and government informants) to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer because of her aggressive lockdown measures.
According to reports, it appears the FBI has been sitting on the case for months just waiting for the perfect time to drop it for maximum political impact.
From MLive:
The Times and the rest of the media are making sure to try and imply the plot may have been connected with Trump tweeting back in April, "LIBERATE MICHIGAN!"
This is all about politics.
The Michigan Supreme Court ruled Whitmer's lockdown orders were unconstitutional just last week, so this entire supposed "plot" would have no doubt already been scrapped.
Regardless, the FBI could have busted the low-IQ suckers that their agents and informants entrapped in June or July.
Instead, they chose to wait it out and set everything up for maximum political impact.
Consider this FBI Director Chris Wray's revenge.
more: http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61796
Chris Menahan
InformationLiberation
Oct. 08, 2020
Just two days ago, I wrote an article titled "Remember How The FBI Conveniently Arrested A 'Trump Superfan' For 'Sending Mail Bombs' Right Before The Midterms?" where I went over how suspicious that case was and asked, "What are the odds we'll see a similar event right before the November election?"
Today, the FBI announced they allegedly busted a plot by a "Michigan militia" (loaded with undercover agents and government informants) to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer because of her aggressive lockdown measures.
According to reports, it appears the FBI has been sitting on the case for months just waiting for the perfect time to drop it for maximum political impact.
From MLive:
Plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, kill ‘tyrants,’ revealed in court filing
By Gus Burns
Michigan militia members are accused of plotting to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and potentially kill other state officials in an effort to overturn the government, according to a criminal affidavit filed in federal court by the FBI.
“In early 2020, the FBI became aware through social media that a group of individuals were discussing the violent overthrow of certain government and law-enforcement components,” says the Oct. 6 filing in the U.S. District Court Western District of Michigan.
According to the court record, 15 militia members from “several states,” including two from Michigan, met in Dublin, Ohio on June 6 to discuss taking “violent action against multiple state governments that they believe are violating the U.S. Constitution.
" ... Several members talked about murdering ‘tyrants’ or ‘taking’ a sitting governor. The group decided they needed to increase their numbers and encouraged each other to talk to their neighbors and spread their message."
Five Michigan men and another man from Delaware were were eventually charged with conspiracy to commit kidnapping.
Following the Ohio meeting, one of the Michigan suspects contacted leaders of a Michigan-based militia for assistance with the plan, the court filing said.
The FBI already had an undercover informant from within the militia that was developed after law enforcement learned of the group’s earlier plans to “target and kill police officers.”
An informant reported to the FBI that during the June 6 meeting in Ohio one of the men now charged in the case said he needed 200 men “to storm the Capitol building in Lansing, Michigan, and take hostages, including the Governor,” the FBI affidavit said. The suspect “explained they would try the governor of Michigan for ‘treason,’ and he said they would execute the plan before the November 2020 elections.”
Following that meeting and the connection with the unnamed Michigan militia, planning sessions were held at a shop in Grand Rapids during June, the FBI said. Attendees access the meeting space “through a trap door hidden under a rug on the main floor,” according the FBI affidavit said.
Discussions included plans to use “Molotov cocktails” in an effort to destroy police vehicles during an attack on the Capitol in Lansing and the scheduling of an armed training session in July.
At a June 28 meeting in which audio was recorded, the FBI affidavit says one of the men charged described kidnapping Whitmer from her vacation home. He called it a “snatch and grab."
“Grab the f***in' Governor,” the FBI affidavit claims the man said. "Just grab the b**h. Because at that point, we do that, dude -- it’s over.”
The investigation continued to gather information about a conspiracy to enact violence against Whitmer, generally through phone calls recorded by an informant. The FBI affidavit said the suspects conducted surveillance on the governor and properties she owns throughout September.
Between Sept. 14 and the Nov. 3 election, the suspects talked about training and raising money for explosives and other supplies, including $4,000 for an 800,000-volt Taser, in preparation for the attack, the court filing said.
"The F.B.I. said it had learned about the group by intercepting encrypted messages and because it had undercover agents and confidential informants working with the group," The New York Times reported.The Times and the rest of the media are making sure to try and imply the plot may have been connected with Trump tweeting back in April, "LIBERATE MICHIGAN!"
This is all about politics.
The Michigan Supreme Court ruled Whitmer's lockdown orders were unconstitutional just last week, so this entire supposed "plot" would have no doubt already been scrapped.
Regardless, the FBI could have busted the low-IQ suckers that their agents and informants entrapped in June or July.
Instead, they chose to wait it out and set everything up for maximum political impact.
Consider this FBI Director Chris Wray's revenge.
more: http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61796
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The Sorosites aren't going to give up the power they discovered easily, and you know they have contingencies, and they're best as victims, (sound familiar) so yes this could have been predicted. Set up...
the thing was swarming with feds
long article here: https://www.police1.com/federal-law...nths-tracking-down-the-case-iv9XMBms1fYBLnNI/
long article here: https://www.police1.com/federal-law...nths-tracking-down-the-case-iv9XMBms1fYBLnNI/
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So now we have pre-crime.
People talking about something is not a crime.
No harm, no foul.
But we have lieyer law today. Kangaroo courts, that can indict a ham sandwich. And would IF there were any money in that.
People talking about something is not a crime.
No harm, no foul.
But we have lieyer law today. Kangaroo courts, that can indict a ham sandwich. And would IF there were any money in that.
Here's a twist...
Michigan Sheriff Says Whitmer Plot May Have Been Lawful Due to Her Crimes Against the Constitution
Sheriff Dar Leaf is not mincing words.
on Oct 10, 2020
By Shane Trejo
A constitutional Michigan sheriff recently made some controversial comments about the thwarted raid against Governor Gretchen Whitmer that was promulgated by a confidential informant getting paid thousands of dollars by the feds.
While the plot itself is incredibly dubious and has all the makings of another FBI scam, Barry County Sheriff Dar Leaf believes that making a citizens arrest on Whitmer is justified considering the onslaught of intolerable acts she has inflicted upon her constituents.
Leaf said he had dealt with some of the militia members and that they had always been nice and respectful when he had seen them at events.
Trending: FBI Uses Confidential Informant to Entrap Militia Activists for Phony Siege on Gretchen Whitmer
“I was shocked. I did not see this coming with those guys, but still, we can’t convict them in the news media here. They do have the right to a fair trial,” he said.
Leaf did not throw the militia members under the bus. He said he does not regret sharing a stage with two of them at an anti-Whitmer rally earlier in the year, and he understands their motives considering Whitmer’s heinous abuses of her authority.
“It’s just a charge,” Leaf explained. “And they say it’s a plot to kidnap. You got to remember that, are they trying to kidnap, because a lot of people are angry with the governor, and they want her arrested. So are they trying to arrest or was it a kidnap attempt?” Leaf asked.
“You can still in Michigan, if it’s a felony, you can make a felony arrest,” Leaf continued, citing Michigan state law to justify his point.
“And it doesn’t say if you’re in elected office that you’re exempt from that arrest. So, I have to look at it from that angle, and I’m hoping that’s more of what it is. As a matter of fact, these guys are innocent until proven guilty so I’m not even sure if they had any part of it,” he added.
Leaf’s comments can be seen here:
Leaf is correct to dispute the story being pushed by the deep state, fake news media, and Democrat politicians who openly support terrorist movements like ANTIFA and Black Lives Matter.
Left-wing journalist Michael Tracey pointed out that the operation has all the hallmarks of a FBI false flag plot to justify their massive budgets and demonize their political opposition:
Big League Politics has reported on the many abuses of Whitmer, including recently disregarding a Supreme Court decision ruling that her flagrant abuse of emergency powers is illegal:
Michigan Sheriff Says Whitmer Plot May Have Been Lawful Due to Her Crimes Against the Constitution
Sheriff Dar Leaf is not mincing words.
on Oct 10, 2020
By Shane Trejo
A constitutional Michigan sheriff recently made some controversial comments about the thwarted raid against Governor Gretchen Whitmer that was promulgated by a confidential informant getting paid thousands of dollars by the feds.
While the plot itself is incredibly dubious and has all the makings of another FBI scam, Barry County Sheriff Dar Leaf believes that making a citizens arrest on Whitmer is justified considering the onslaught of intolerable acts she has inflicted upon her constituents.
Leaf said he had dealt with some of the militia members and that they had always been nice and respectful when he had seen them at events.
Trending: FBI Uses Confidential Informant to Entrap Militia Activists for Phony Siege on Gretchen Whitmer
“I was shocked. I did not see this coming with those guys, but still, we can’t convict them in the news media here. They do have the right to a fair trial,” he said.
Leaf did not throw the militia members under the bus. He said he does not regret sharing a stage with two of them at an anti-Whitmer rally earlier in the year, and he understands their motives considering Whitmer’s heinous abuses of her authority.
“It’s just a charge,” Leaf explained. “And they say it’s a plot to kidnap. You got to remember that, are they trying to kidnap, because a lot of people are angry with the governor, and they want her arrested. So are they trying to arrest or was it a kidnap attempt?” Leaf asked.
“You can still in Michigan, if it’s a felony, you can make a felony arrest,” Leaf continued, citing Michigan state law to justify his point.
“And it doesn’t say if you’re in elected office that you’re exempt from that arrest. So, I have to look at it from that angle, and I’m hoping that’s more of what it is. As a matter of fact, these guys are innocent until proven guilty so I’m not even sure if they had any part of it,” he added.
Leaf’s comments can be seen here:
Leaf is correct to dispute the story being pushed by the deep state, fake news media, and Democrat politicians who openly support terrorist movements like ANTIFA and Black Lives Matter.
Left-wing journalist Michael Tracey pointed out that the operation has all the hallmarks of a FBI false flag plot to justify their massive budgets and demonize their political opposition:
Big League Politics has reported on the many abuses of Whitmer, including recently disregarding a Supreme Court decision ruling that her flagrant abuse of emergency powers is illegal:
Even though a state supreme court ruling recently invalidated her emergency powers, Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer is refusing to give up her illicit control.
Whitmer is working through Michigan Department of Health and Human Services (MDHHS) and having her bureaucratic henchmen do her dirty work as she attempts to sidestep the court ruling.
MDHHS Director Robert Gordon has issued a new emergency order mandating face masks in public, restricting bars and other venues, and limiting gathering sizes.
“A divided Michigan Supreme Court struck down these requirements on Friday. Our order today flows from a legal authority not at issue in Friday’s case. It is important we stay the course we’ve been on. When it comes to defeating COVID-19, we’re all in this together,” Gordon said in his announcement.
The Whitmer administration is continuing to repeat the same talking points that they have used throughout the pandemic to stupefy the masses into submission.
“When it comes to fighting COVID-19, we are all in this together. We need Michiganders everywhere to do their part by wearing masks and practicing safe physical distancing so we can keep our schools
and small businesses open and protect the brave men and women serving on the front lines of this crisis,” Whitmer said.
“The epidemic order that Director Gordon issued today is an important step to protect Michiganders across the state from the spread of COVID-19. Let’s all mask up and stay safe,” she added.
They noted that noncompliance with these new orders will be considered a misdemeanor under Michigan state law, which could result in up to six months in jail. It could also result in a $200 fine as well as a civil fine of up to $1,000.
The founding fathers would have known what to do with a tyrant like Whitmer. Dar Leaf is living up to his billing as a constitutional sheriff by standing strong for freedom when the heat is on.
^^^
good luck with that jury trial, I’m smelling not guilty from here
good luck with that jury trial, I’m smelling not guilty from here
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Here's a twist...
Michigan Sheriff Says Whitmer Plot May Have Been Lawful Due to Her Crimes Against the Constitution
Sheriff Dar Leaf is not mincing words.
on Oct 10, 2020
By Shane Trejo
A constitutional Michigan sheriff recently made some controversial comments about the thwarted raid against Governor Gretchen Whitmer that was promulgated by a confidential informant getting paid thousands of dollars by the feds.
While the plot itself is incredibly dubious and has all the makings of another FBI scam, Barry County Sheriff Dar Leaf believes that making a citizens arrest on Whitmer is justified considering the onslaught of intolerable acts she has inflicted upon her constituents.
Leaf said he had dealt with some of the militia members and that they had always been nice and respectful when he had seen them at events.
Trending: FBI Uses Confidential Informant to Entrap Militia Activists for Phony Siege on Gretchen Whitmer
“I was shocked. I did not see this coming with those guys, but still, we can’t convict them in the news media here. They do have the right to a fair trial,” he said.
Leaf did not throw the militia members under the bus. He said he does not regret sharing a stage with two of them at an anti-Whitmer rally earlier in the year, and he understands their motives considering Whitmer’s heinous abuses of her authority.
“It’s just a charge,” Leaf explained. “And they say it’s a plot to kidnap. You got to remember that, are they trying to kidnap, because a lot of people are angry with the governor, and they want her arrested. So are they trying to arrest or was it a kidnap attempt?” Leaf asked.
“You can still in Michigan, if it’s a felony, you can make a felony arrest,” Leaf continued, citing Michigan state law to justify his point.
“And it doesn’t say if you’re in elected office that you’re exempt from that arrest. So, I have to look at it from that angle, and I’m hoping that’s more of what it is. As a matter of fact, these guys are innocent until proven guilty so I’m not even sure if they had any part of it,” he added.
Leaf’s comments can be seen here:
Leaf is correct to dispute the story being pushed by the deep state, fake news media, and Democrat politicians who openly support terrorist movements like ANTIFA and Black Lives Matter.
Left-wing journalist Michael Tracey pointed out that the operation has all the hallmarks of a FBI false flag plot to justify their massive budgets and demonize their political opposition:
Big League Politics has reported on the many abuses of Whitmer, including recently disregarding a Supreme Court decision ruling that her flagrant abuse of emergency powers is illegal:
Even though a state supreme court ruling recently invalidated her emergency powers, Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer is refusing to give up her illicit control.Whitmer is working through Michigan Department of Health and Human Services (MDHHS) and having her bureaucratic henchmen do her dirty work as she attempts to sidestep the court ruling.MDHHS Director Robert Gordon has issued a new emergency order mandating face masks in public, restricting bars and other venues, and limiting gathering sizes.“A divided Michigan Supreme Court struck down these requirements on Friday. Our order today flows from a legal authority not at issue in Friday’s case. It is important we stay the course we’ve been on. When it comes to defeating COVID-19, we’re all in this together,” Gordon said in his announcement.The Whitmer administration is continuing to repeat the same talking points that they have used throughout the pandemic to stupefy the masses into submission.“When it comes to fighting COVID-19, we are all in this together. We need Michiganders everywhere to do their part by wearing masks and practicing safe physical distancing so we can keep our schools
and small businesses open and protect the brave men and women serving on the front lines of this crisis,” Whitmer said.“The epidemic order that Director Gordon issued today is an important step to protect Michiganders across the state from the spread of COVID-19. Let’s all mask up and stay safe,” she added.They noted that noncompliance with these new orders will be considered a misdemeanor under Michigan state law, which could result in up to six months in jail. It could also result in a $200 fine as well as a civil fine of up to $1,000.The founding fathers would have known what to do with a tyrant like Whitmer. Dar Leaf is living up to his billing as a constitutional sheriff by standing strong for freedom when the heat is on.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised it if was a setup by the FBI - the "just before the election" timing is totally suspect.
I also wouldn't be surprised if the FBI didn't have this board and all it's members under surveillance.
Kanye is nailing it here and his voice will be listened to
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I am sure everyone who is the least bit "interesting" is under surveillance. And all the non-interesting people are self-reporting their every action in social media. I am probably in the first group. Or am I flattering myself? Dunno. Enough time wasted trying to think this through...
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Michigan Supreme court has clearly declared her a tyrant.
In the modern English-language's usage of the word, a tyrant (derived from Ancient Greek τύραννος, tyrannos) is an absolute ruler who is unrestrained by law, or one who has usurped a legitimate ruler's sovereignty. Often portrayed as cruel, tyrants may defend their positions by resorting to oppressive means.[1][2] The original Greek term meant an absolute sovereign who came to power without constitutional right,[3] yet the word had a neutral connotation during the Archaic and early Classical periods.[4] However, Greek philosopher Plato saw tyrannos as a negative word, and on account of the decisive influence of philosophy on politics, its negative connotations only increased, continuing into the Hellenistic period.
The philosophers Plato and Aristotle defined a tyrant as a person who rules without law, using extreme and cruel methods against both his own people and others.[5][6] The Encyclopédie defined the term as a usurper of sovereign power who makes "his subjects the victims of his passions and unjust desires, which he substitutes for laws".[7] In the late fifth and fourth centuries BC, a new kind of tyrant, one who had the support of the military, arose – specifically in Sicily.
One can apply accusations of tyranny to a variety of types of government:
So she is clearly guilty of tyrany.
cruel and oppressive government or rule.
"people who survive war and escape tyranny"
a nation under cruel and oppressive government.
cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary use of power or control.
So we have clearly seen she is a tyrant and used her powers to affect an election, destroy businesses & lives..
Well Jefferson left a clear message on what to do. Reread it........ interesting in todays world.
In a 1787 letter to William Stephens Smith, the son-in-law of John Adams, Thomas Jefferson used the phrase "tree of liberty":
I do not know whether it is to yourself or Mr. Adams I am to give my thanks for the copy of the new constitution. I beg leave through you to place them where due. It will be yet three weeks before I shall receive them from America. There are very good articles in it: and very bad. I do not know which preponderate. What we have lately read in the history of Holland, in the chapter on the Stadtholder, would have sufficed to set me against a Chief magistrate eligible for a long duration, if I had ever been disposed towards one: and what we have always read of the elections of Polish kings should have forever excluded the idea of one continuable for life. Wonderful is the effect of impudent and persevering lying. The British ministry have so long hired their gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in anarchy, that the world has at length believed them, the English nation has believed them, the ministers themselves have come to believe them, and what is more wonderful, we have believed them ourselves. Yet where does this anarchy exist? Where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of Massachusets? And can history produce an instance of a rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it’s motives. They were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. God forbid we should ever be 20. years without such a rebellion.1 The people can not be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independant 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century and half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure. Our Convention has been too much impressed by the insurrection of Massachusets: and in the spur of the moment they are setting up a kite to keep the hen yard in order. I hope in god this article will be rectified before the new constitution is accepted.2
In the modern English-language's usage of the word, a tyrant (derived from Ancient Greek τύραννος, tyrannos) is an absolute ruler who is unrestrained by law, or one who has usurped a legitimate ruler's sovereignty. Often portrayed as cruel, tyrants may defend their positions by resorting to oppressive means.[1][2] The original Greek term meant an absolute sovereign who came to power without constitutional right,[3] yet the word had a neutral connotation during the Archaic and early Classical periods.[4] However, Greek philosopher Plato saw tyrannos as a negative word, and on account of the decisive influence of philosophy on politics, its negative connotations only increased, continuing into the Hellenistic period.
The philosophers Plato and Aristotle defined a tyrant as a person who rules without law, using extreme and cruel methods against both his own people and others.[5][6] The Encyclopédie defined the term as a usurper of sovereign power who makes "his subjects the victims of his passions and unjust desires, which he substitutes for laws".[7] In the late fifth and fourth centuries BC, a new kind of tyrant, one who had the support of the military, arose – specifically in Sicily.
One can apply accusations of tyranny to a variety of types of government:
- to government by one individual (in an autocracy)
- to government by a minority (in an oligarchy, tyranny of the minority)
- to government by a majority (in a democracy, tyranny of the majority)
So she is clearly guilty of tyrany.
cruel and oppressive government or rule.
"people who survive war and escape tyranny"
a nation under cruel and oppressive government.
cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary use of power or control.
So we have clearly seen she is a tyrant and used her powers to affect an election, destroy businesses & lives..
Well Jefferson left a clear message on what to do. Reread it........ interesting in todays world.
In a 1787 letter to William Stephens Smith, the son-in-law of John Adams, Thomas Jefferson used the phrase "tree of liberty":
I do not know whether it is to yourself or Mr. Adams I am to give my thanks for the copy of the new constitution. I beg leave through you to place them where due. It will be yet three weeks before I shall receive them from America. There are very good articles in it: and very bad. I do not know which preponderate. What we have lately read in the history of Holland, in the chapter on the Stadtholder, would have sufficed to set me against a Chief magistrate eligible for a long duration, if I had ever been disposed towards one: and what we have always read of the elections of Polish kings should have forever excluded the idea of one continuable for life. Wonderful is the effect of impudent and persevering lying. The British ministry have so long hired their gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in anarchy, that the world has at length believed them, the English nation has believed them, the ministers themselves have come to believe them, and what is more wonderful, we have believed them ourselves. Yet where does this anarchy exist? Where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of Massachusets? And can history produce an instance of a rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it’s motives. They were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. God forbid we should ever be 20. years without such a rebellion.1 The people can not be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independant 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century and half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure. Our Convention has been too much impressed by the insurrection of Massachusets: and in the spur of the moment they are setting up a kite to keep the hen yard in order. I hope in god this article will be rectified before the new constitution is accepted.2
Suspect in Whitmer kidnap plot was pardoned in Delaware last year
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...p-plot-was-pardoned-in-delaware-last-year?amp
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...p-plot-was-pardoned-in-delaware-last-year?amp
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Delaware man charged in Michigan governor kidnap plot was pardoned by Carney last year
Barry Gordon Croft Jr., the 44-year-old Bear man charged in a plot to kidnap the Michigan governor Thursday, was pardoned by Delaware Gov. John Carney last year, according to documents obtained by Delaware Online/The News Journal. The charges for which Croft received a pardon include possession of a firearm during the commission of a felony, assault and burglary, according to court records. Carney, a Democrat, signed the pardon in April 2019 after the Delaware Board of Pardons recommended approval. On Friday, Carney confirmed he pardoned Croft for a series of criminal charges that occurred in the mid-1990s. In a written statement issued through a spokesman, Carney called Croft's federal charges "disturbing" and said everyone involved with the kidnapping plot should be "prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law." "This is also another warning sign about the growing threat of violence and radicalization in our politics," Carney said. Lt. Gov. Bethany Hall-Long, a Democrat who chairs the Board of Pardons, said in a written statement that the board considers several factors when determining whether to recommend a pardon to the governor, "such as the position of the Department of Justice, the nature of the incident(s), the time lapsed from the last conviction, and the impact on employment and housing." "All of those factors were considered with this recommendation," she said. Croft remains in federal custody in Delaware after making an initial appearance Thursday in district court.
https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/crime/2020/10/09/last-year-carney-pardoned-bear-man-charged-plot-kidnap-michigan-governor/5935065002/
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Yeah, and the 3 dirtbags Kyle shot were all convicted felons. Nice how the left emptied out the prisons to raise their army of chaos ain't it?
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Me thinks.............. a higher power............ was protecting a 17 yo without combat experience against evil that day. He made every right decision & move. Prove me wrong.
U gave me goosebumps
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She needs a mental test. Funny so many other people are telling us what dementia joe will do..... except joe. They can't put him in public.
What did Q say about a mirror? Everything they are doing is what they accuse everyone else of.
What did Q say about a mirror? Everything they are doing is what they accuse everyone else of.
Integrity my arse!!!
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She is either truly evil, or sorobeast has some big time leverage on her, which we would all love to know about.
That woman is not sane, she's an attractive woman physically, until you look deep into the eyes, but also the more one watches what she does to the people of Michigan, the more one realizes she's obviously insane and needs a big boot out of that position...
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Gov. Whitmer: Michigan votes will not ‘have artificial deadlines set by…people with political agendas’
Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer raised many eyebrows Sunday on CBS’s ‘Face The Nation ‘after saying that the results of the state’s election won’t be announced by “artificial deadlines” set by “people with political agendas.
The Governor apparently doesn’t want to let anyone know what the rules are for the presidential election on Nov. 3 in her home state of Michigan.
“Michigan will be able to announce results, but we are not going to have artificial deadlines set by, you know, people with political agendas,” she said. “We’re gonna get this right.”
Concern has been mounting over universal mail-in-ballots and this years complications during the upcoming Nov. 3, presidential election due to the coronavirus global pandemic.
The Governor of Michigan refuses to state when votes must be counted by. https://t.co/fTj0OWU5vj
— Sean Spicer (@seanspicer) October 11, 2020
Whitmer also responded to a CBS poll that found half of Trump’s supporters think they should monitor voting places.
As for a CBS poll that found half of Trump supporters believe that polling places should be monitored “we are prepared to make sure this election goes smoothly. We’re gonna keep people safe as they go to the polls, and we will not tolerate anyone who’s trying to interfere with someone’s ability to safely vote.”
Whitmer says Michigan votes will not be announced by 'artificial deadlines' set by 'people with political agendas' https://t.co/eLp3M94Uvs >><> This woman might even be worse that Gavin and Andrew.
— Bo Snerdley (@BoSnerdley) October 11, 2020
https://saraacarter.com/gov-whitmer-michigan-votes-will-not-have-artificial-deadlines-set-by-people-with-political-agendas/
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Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer raised many eyebrows Sunday on CBS’s ‘Face The Nation ‘after saying that the results of the state’s election won’t be announced by “artificial deadlines” set by “people with political agendas.
The Governor apparently doesn’t want to let anyone know what the rules are for the presidential election on Nov. 3 in her home state of Michigan.
“Michigan will be able to announce results, but we are not going to have artificial deadlines set by, you know, people with political agendas,” she said. “We’re gonna get this right.”
Concern has been mounting over universal mail-in-ballots and this years complications during the upcoming Nov. 3, presidential election due to the coronavirus global pandemic.
The Governor of Michigan refuses to state when votes must be counted by. https://t.co/fTj0OWU5vj
— Sean Spicer (@seanspicer) October 11, 2020
Whitmer also responded to a CBS poll that found half of Trump’s supporters think they should monitor voting places.
As for a CBS poll that found half of Trump supporters believe that polling places should be monitored “we are prepared to make sure this election goes smoothly. We’re gonna keep people safe as they go to the polls, and we will not tolerate anyone who’s trying to interfere with someone’s ability to safely vote.”
Whitmer says Michigan votes will not be announced by 'artificial deadlines' set by 'people with political agendas' https://t.co/eLp3M94Uvs >><> This woman might even be worse that Gavin and Andrew.
— Bo Snerdley (@BoSnerdley) October 11, 2020
https://saraacarter.com/gov-whitmer-michigan-votes-will-not-have-artificial-deadlines-set-by-people-with-political-agendas/
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Anyone who believes this upcoming election will be legitimate is simply fooling themselves. States like NY, CA, IL and MI will do everything in their power to delay, deflect and poison their election results to de-legitimize the outcome.
She’s polling 51 / 41 favorable
the good people of Michigan are either uninformed or prefer tyranny (or polls are a big joke like usual)
the good people of Michigan are either uninformed or prefer tyranny (or polls are a big joke like usual)
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Hillary was way ahead in Michigan according to the polls. Trump didn't have a chance.
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No she doesn't need to be hanged. She needs to suffer, as she caused the citizens of her state suffered and die withering in nursing homes wondering if the family had abandoned them.
I want her thrown out of office, with multiple lawsuits by devastated families until she's destitute on the street.
I want her thrown out of office, with multiple lawsuits by devastated families until she's destitute on the street.
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Good Luck wid Dat.