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Occasionally a boat load of milsurp firearms will hit the shore and offer fantastic values. I was lucky enough to enjoy the SKS bonanza about 15 years ago and the CZ-52 bargains. Nowadays they aren't much of a bargain anymore. I'd appreciate being notified if anyone here finds out about a good bargain on the milsurp market.

Right now I'm liking the looks of the Zastava M88a even with the dorky safety switch and 8 round magazine. $220 bucks from Southern Ohio Gun.

http://www.southernohiogun.com/zastava-m88a-compact-9mm.html

A good value Milsurp should be around or under the $200 price point IMO.
 

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The link you provided appears to be for newly made guns, replicas, not milsurps. Am I mistaken?
 

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Sarco has Browning 1919A4 machine guns in semi-auto for $3k.

They also have Bulgarian Makarovs in excellent to new condition for $260. Condition is everything.
 

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These Beretta 92s surplus at $279 seem to be a good deal. Almost identical to US military issue sidearm, but without the ambi decocker/safety and with the mag release at the bottom of the grip. I'd be just a little concerned about the mount of wear on the internals and bore.

http://www.southernohiogun.com/handguns/surplus-handguns/beretta-model-92s-9mm.html

My teen daughters have been bugging me to train them on a handgun, and this might be a nice training piece.
 

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J&G has a 24/47 Mauser in good shape, shiny bore for $350..... and a cracked stock version for $299... this is the world we live in
 

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These Beretta 92s surplus at $279 seem to be a good deal. Almost identical to US military issue sidearm, but without the ambi decocker/safety and with the mag release at the bottom of the grip. I'd be just a little concerned about the mount of wear on the internals and bore.

http://www.southernohiogun.com/handguns/surplus-handguns/beretta-model-92s-9mm.html

My teen daughters have been bugging me to train them on a handgun, and this might be a nice training piece.
Held one today. Too big for their hands. I think the single stack Zastava might be easier for them to hold.
 

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Prices have gotten ridiculous. I should have been stacking crates of Yugo SKSs 10 years ago for $179 each. Nagant rifles were just $79, and now $300???
They've dried up. Simple supply and demand now
 

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I remember when you could walk into any Kmart or Sears and buy a Garand for $80, sometimes $69 on sale. Just hand pick one out of the old wood barrel in the corner. People were not as crazy back then and fewer were careless or dumb. It used to be embarrassing to get called dumb or inflict pain or discomfort on another person. Now certain groups think it's part of their culture keeping it real, dumb- so we can't leave firearms on the sales floor anymore.
 

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I remember when you could walk into any Kmart or Sears and buy a Garand for $80, sometimes $69 on sale. Just hand pick one out of the old wood barrel in the corner. People were not as crazy back then and fewer were careless or dumb. It used to be embarrassing to get called dumb or inflict pain or discomfort on another person. Now certain groups think it's part of their culture keeping it real, dumb- so we can't leave firearms on the sales floor anymore.
Yup, really really dumb these days. People today aren't the same as people used to be. WE've allowed the country to go full pussy and there's no turning back now
 

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Not so much pussy, but people who have no moral compass or self-control that do whatever feels good even it if harms or injures another person.
 

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I remember when you could walk into any Kmart or Sears and buy a Garand for $80, sometimes $69 on sale. Just hand pick one out of the old wood barrel in the corner. People were not as crazy back then and fewer were careless or dumb. It used to be embarrassing to get called dumb or inflict pain or discomfort on another person. Now certain groups think it's part of their culture keeping it real, dumb- so we can't leave firearms on the sales floor anymore.
Many moons ago I worked at a Woolworth store. We had three 55 gallon drums in the sporting goods department. One had K98s, one had 303 Enfields and one had Garands take your pick $69. No forms just pay and go.
 

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I remember when you could walk into any Kmart or Sears and buy a Garand for $80, sometimes $69 on sale. Just hand pick one out of the old wood barrel in the corner. People were not as crazy back then and fewer were careless or dumb. It used to be embarrassing to get called dumb or inflict pain or discomfort on another person. Now certain groups think it's part of their culture keeping it real, dumb- so we can't leave firearms on the sales floor anymore.
I got err. HAD a Sears and Roebuck .22cal. bolt action. Lost it in that dam_ boating accident will my silver and gold.
Got it back in the mid 70s.
 

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Held one today. Too big for their hands. I think the single stack Zastava might be easier for them to hold.
The Beretta 92 probably is too big for personal use or EDC for a woman or girl BUT for training purposes it would be a good piece.
Once you know which girls are gonna stay in shooting or want to go personal / EDC then worry about size/fit. AND Let them make those decisions. ( Hopefully shooting comparables at a local gun store w/ shooting range)

The weight of the 92 will also dampen the recoil compared to smaller pistols. Making a newbie shooter less apprehensive about "kick". Get them use to shooting first and then the particulars latter. IMO
 

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. Lost it in that dam_ boating accident will my silver and gold
I know how you feel. They saved my boat, but I lost my guns & PM's.

Boat sank 1.jpg
Boat sank 2.jpg
 

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There are still some Mosins that can be found pretty cheap

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http://www.victory-arms.com/rifles

I've made a deal with myself that I wouldn't make any more firearm purchases for a while. at least till after my next vacation. But on the other hand these Swiss K31's are getting harder to find and I've been wanting one for awhile. Price isnt great, but not Armslist.com stupid either.
k31.jpg
 

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Goldbricking and <SLV> both mentioned Beretta 92FS pistols. Complete rebuild kits only cost $74 list. These pistols are very easy to take apart and put back together plus there are dozens of videos on YouTube and elsewhere that will show you how with no special tools required. Pick up a used one spend an afternoon rebuilding it and you have a nearly new pistol. Barrels only cost $139 and drop right in. No tools required. All you need to do is be able to gauge how much wear and tear is on the slide rails. There's plenty of videos on that too.

I think with the US Army going to the Sig P320 and the Civilian Marksmanship Program, CMP, slated to sell the surplus Colt .45s within the next year (or two) you can be assured Trump will probably route the obsolete inventory of M9s, the military version of the 92FS, to the CMP so I would expect some bargains down the road.
 

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I shot a 92F side-by-side and much preferred my Glock 17 before I became a Glock advocate. The action of the 92F was superior in smoothness and trigger pull, but the Glock was just as or more accurate and noticeably lighter making range work easy.
 

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Wow, that is shiny. But not for me. When the SKS and ammo were very cheap, I could applaud them. A semi-auto rifle for $130 and ten cents a round! But that was three decades ago. Recently (ten years ago) the 7.62.54 ammo and the bolt action rifles were very cheap. But no more. As far as I know, there are no great deals today. (But prove me wrong!)

Trump and Putin should get together and start a new deal on imports. They could even call it "The New Deal!"
 

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Finding Russian Milsurp 7.62X54R in spam cans is near impossible. I've seen some Tula in spam cans, but not the good ole' Silver Tip. Hard to believe they were 79 bucks at one time, for a can of 440 rounds!
 

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Hope they were better crafted than the YUGO vehicles. :bomb 1: Just Sayin'
 

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I happen to have one of those critters - STAR BM 9mm. My issue is trying to obtain more magazines for it.
The California company that finds and has magazines made for older and unique pistols their magazines failed to seat, and then would not eject.

If ya get one or want one make sure you find WORKING magazines before you make the pistol purchase.

FYI - Some of the "45s" in the movie Saving Private Ryan were actually STAR 9mm BM pistols. Tom Hanks shooting at the Kraut Tank was a STAR acting as a .45
 

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Milsurp rifles are getting too expensive, and honestly, I'm running short on room. So I've decided to collect bayonets from now on, unless something pops up that I must need.
 

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Will retired Beretta M9 pistols sell for $1,500 each?
I seriously doubt it but my WAG the pricing will be close RETAIL PRICE of "RETIRED" LEO pistols you can find at your local gun store or BUD'S.
 

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Milsurps, at least for now, are dead. Not much available and what there is is overpriced as shit
 

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Milsurps, at least for now, are dead. Not much available and what there is is overpriced as shit
PRICE = Supply vs DEMAND. Somebodies somewhere seem to be paying the "rate".
 

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I shot a 92F side-by-side and much preferred my Glock 17 before I became a Glock advocate. The action of the 92F was superior in smoothness and trigger pull, but the Glock was just as or more accurate and noticeably lighter making range work easy.
Me and my 92FS can typically out shoot most of the guys in my division and class at IDPA competitions that shoot Glocks....but I a just in marksman SSP....I can beat about half of the sharpshooter guys..but the leaders definetly outclass me and my 92
 

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These Beretta 92s surplus at $279 seem to be a good deal. Almost identical to US military issue sidearm, but without the ambi decocker/safety and with the mag release at the bottom of the grip. I'd be just a little concerned about the mount of wear on the internals and bore.

http://www.southernohiogun.com/handguns/surplus-handguns/beretta-model-92s-9mm.html

My teen daughters have been bugging me to train them on a handgun, and this might be a nice training piece.
Have a Berretta fs92 kinda heavy and quite a kick hard to hit anything with, might be just me
But I didn't buy it to shoot I bought it cause it was so pretty.
:dduck:
 

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Have a Berretta fs92 kinda heavy and quite a kick hard to hit anything with, might be just me
But I didn't buy it to shoot I bought it cause it was so pretty.
:dduck:
:bang head: :bang head: :bang head:
 

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Have a Berretta fs92 kinda heavy and quite a kick hard to hit anything with, might be just me
But I didn't buy it to shoot I bought it cause it was so pretty.
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The Beretta 92 is indeed quite heavy because there's no plastic to speak of. I'm not sure where you got the 'quite a kick' part. The heavier weight helps reduce the recoil and the 92 is chambered in 9mm. 9's don't kick all the hard. Have you ever shot a 1911 45ACP? That's a kick!
 
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