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New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged with soliciting prostitution in human trafficking probe

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It bothers me that really rich guys do something this cheap and sleazy, you would think these guys have thousand dollar hookers on speed dial, this is like you stop at Burger King and DJT is in the next booth.
 

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It bothers me that really rich guys do something this cheap and sleazy, you would think these guys have thousand dollar hookers on speed dial, this is like you stop at Burger King and DJT is in the next booth.
Maybe he went this route to try and keep it on the DL...you know, rented a Nissan Versa and put on a pair of JC Penny shorts with flowered shirt and sandals then went for his "massage". Nobody would guess that he is the Pats owner. If he was seeing high-price callgirls, one would eventually go to the Enquirer or Star with her story...then he'd have to pay a ton to suppress said story....(ala Stormy Daniels).
 

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Trump nominated the guy who let Epstein & Clinton off the hook to be labor secretary. Swamp the drain.
It appears Alex Acosta violated the law with the sweetheart deal. Once again, Trump administration forced to investigate itself.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...naire-pedophile-jeffrey-epstein-off-the-hook/
Narratives....
Let's see, Kraft was never charged with this crime until Trump was in office. Got off scott free under Obama.
The above paragraph is 100 percent true. So what conclusion do we draw from this?

Seems blaming every little happenstance on Trump can bite you in the rear end.
 

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Misdemeanor. The only reason it's on the front page is because he's a friend of Trump and they can poke him with it somehow.
Kraft is a celebrity in his own right, plus his connection to Trump, networks can smell $$$.

 

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THINK LOGICALLY

(((Robert Kraft's Rub & Tug)))

Q. Why is this even newsworthy?
A. There must be a larger story behind the scenes.
Q. Who owns all these rub & tugs?
A. Vast majority are owned by Chinese nationals.
Q. How many locations are under investigation?
A. LEO data indicates over 9000 locations.
Q. Why is this treated as a RICO case?
A. Chinese government sponsors locations.
Q. Why would Chinese sponsor locations?
A. To gain video leverage on blackmail victims.

Now you understand the big picture.
It's all about leverage with "them".
This is the front door to find victims.
From all walks of life. From every town.
Pastors. CEO's. Husbands. Politicians.
They are looking for a special type of victim.
The ones that are happy to be blackmailed.
In exchange for positions of power.
Those are harder to find.
Everything is connected.
Don't be naive.
 

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No wife.

Misdemeanor. The only reason it's on the front page is because he's a friend of Trump and they can poke him with it somehow.
my fave part so far... nyc.espn tried to lead people into thinking trump was about to be implicated in it too

and be careful about the confidence of 'no wife' for these types. one example:

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/l...rosnahan-husband-jason-ralph-secret-marriage/

The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel's Rachel Brosnahan Has Been Secretly Married for Years
 

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... he underestimated the stakes.
 
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Football fans of other teams are showing for selfies outside the massage parlor...this is fun.
 

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Trump may soon wish he'd never taken the job - he underestimated the stakes.
Oh, he's long past regretting it, and so are most of his associates.
Manafort is going to die in jail.
Trump is looking at 9 years by my count, just in the Cohen hush money payments.
(Cohen got 3 years, and sentencing guidelines say boss who orders criminal acts gets 3x the sentence of the henchman.)
Shit hits the fan on wednesday.
 

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Football fans of other teams are showing for selfies outside the massage parlor...this is fun.
I looked up the location because I used to live in the area. Turns out I used to eat at the Thai restaurant 2 doors down.
 

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I looked up the location because I used to live in the area. Turns out I used to eat at the Thai restaurant 2 doors down.
Do you feel like you missed an opportunity? :blond:
 

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now they are floating the rumor that the famous not named is tiger woods. a lot of pga golfers live in that area
 

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THINK LOGICALLY

(((Robert Kraft's Rub & Tug)))

Q. Why is this even newsworthy?
A. There must be a larger story behind the scenes.
Q. Who owns all these rub & tugs?
A. Vast majority are owned by Chinese nationals.
Q. How many locations are under investigation?
A. LEO data indicates over 9000 locations.
Q. Why is this treated as a RICO case?
A. Chinese government sponsors locations.
Q. Why would Chinese sponsor locations?
A. To gain video leverage on blackmail victims.

Now you understand the big picture.
It's all about leverage with "them".
This is the front door to find victims.
From all walks of life. From every town.
Pastors. CEO's. Husbands. Politicians.
They are looking for a special type of victim.
The ones that are happy to be blackmailed.
In exchange for positions of power.
Those are harder to find.
Everything is connected.
Don't be naive.
This hasn't even begun to play out yet. Bob Kraft is but the key which opens the stinking can of worms festering underneath. Should be interesting as it twists and turns like a snake unraveling!
 

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It bothers me that really rich guys do something this cheap and sleazy, you would think these guys have thousand dollar hookers on speed dial, this is like you stop at Burger King and DJT is in the next booth.
You would think he would be able to get a hot model on the daily porn hit parade, but probably he was looking to avoid herpes which is endemic in that business. Rich people are among the laziest, even have people to wiper their @$$e$! Paging Asia Carrera, Malena Morgan, Dani Daniels, Jessie Andrews and Stoya!

Expect the lawyers to question the basis for the sting, cops used a "bomb threat" as the rationale!
 

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I don't care
 

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Call me jaded but I think this whole thing is part of a larger plan. Not sure what but the NFL does have morality clauses in the players contracts and I am sure the team owners also have one. Could this be a way to play the NFL's hand and force Kraft to sell his team? If so, I'd take a serious look at the potential front running bidders as having a motive behind the sting on Kraft. As they say, follow the money.

Just trying to take a different way of looking at this.
 

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Your tax dollars at work.
And getting fat pensions to bust hardened criminals with all of this
difficult surveillance work etc etc etc etc.
( Sarc button x 5 )
JMHO
Yeah. God forbid some dude(s) pay some women for her time. I dont like it, but there are much worse crimes out there than a guy getting a hand job - how about all those missing kids and teens? Let's clog up the court system even more with someone getting a quick O before the superbowl.
 

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Yeah. God forbid some dude(s) pay some women for her time. I dont like it, but there are much worse crimes out there than a guy getting a hand job - how about all those missing kids and teens? Let's clog up the court system even more with someone getting a quick O before the superbowl.
To be fair, this was part of a human trafficking probe. Kraft was just caught with his pants down in the crossfire. Pun intended.
 

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This sort of crap is being used as a weapon left right and center. We are basically never going to know if scores are being settled or something actually happened. As a matter of course I think that "trial by media" should be made illegal. These cases should be tried on a need to know basis until resolved. Then and only then should a judgment be made public IF the evidence is substantial and it is in the public's interest. Either that or all parties CHOOSE to have it made public. These days one accusation has you guilty for life regardless of the out come of the case. Peoples lives are destroyed if they have it wrong. This process needs some better protocols.

JMO.
 

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This sort of crap is being used as a weapon left right and center. We are basically never going to know if scores are being settled or something actually happened. As a matter of course I think that "trial by media" should be made illegal. These cases should be tried on a need to know basis until resolved. Then and only then should a judgment be made public IF the evidence is substantial and it is in the public's interest. Either that or all parties CHOOSE to have it made public. These days one accusation has you guilty for life regardless of the out come of the case. Peoples lives are destroyed if they have it wrong. This process needs some better protocols.

JMO.
Our society sucks today, especially in the human cesspools we call cities! Everyone seems to hold everyone else to a higher standard than they hold themselves then we wonder why we can't all get along.
 

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The 77-year-old billionaire is among more than two dozen people accused in a police sting as part of a human trafficking probe, authorities say.

Kraft is a friend of President Donald Trump, who last month touted his administration's efforts to eradicate human trafficking.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/22/new-enreagland-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-prostitution.html

lol

Patriots are always cheating on all levels, from the owner to the coaches to the players.
I read somewhere the sting was 175 lucaferions
 

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Call me jaded but I think this whole thing is part of a larger plan. Not sure what but the NFL does have morality clauses in the players contracts and I am sure the team owners also have one. Could this be a way to play the NFL's hand and force Kraft to sell his team? If so, I'd take a serious look at the potential front running bidders as having a motive behind the sting on Kraft. As they say, follow the money.

Just trying to take a different way of looking at this.
exactly. not unlikely a psyop...esp when considering who is involved
 

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Founder of massage parlor where Robert Kraft was arrested is a Trump donor, frequent Mar-a-Lago partygoer and White House guest who was seen watching the Patriots win the Super Bowl with the president

  • Orchids of Asia Day Spa founder Li Yang, 45, posted a photo of herself watching the Patriots win the Super Bowl with President Trump at Mar-a-Lago
  • Two weeks later, Patriots owner Robert Kraft would be charged with soliciting prostitution at the spa after a sex acts were allegedly performed on him
  • Yang, 45, is a frequent guest at Mar-a-Lago and has also visited The White House and Trump Tower multiple times since President Trump took office
  • She claim to be out of the business now, but would not comment on whether or not she knew about human trafficking practices at establishments she founded
  • 'Leaders like you are the key to fulfilling our bold agenda to Make America Great Again,' wrote Trump in a note to Yang signed by himself and the First Lady
  • Yang donated $8,100 to the Trump Victory Fund in 2018, and on federal forms listed her occupation as Chairman of the Women's Charity Foundation
  • She owns three homes in neighboring counties in Florida and is still a registered cosmetologist
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...sted-Trump-donor-frequent-Mar-Lago-guest.html
 

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Founder of massage parlor where Robert Kraft was arrested is a Trump donor, frequent Mar-a-Lago partygoer and White House guest who was seen watching the Patriots win the Super Bowl with the president

  • Orchids of Asia Day Spa founder Li Yang, 45, posted a photo of herself watching the Patriots win the Super Bowl with President Trump at Mar-a-Lago
  • Two weeks later, Patriots owner Robert Kraft would be charged with soliciting prostitution at the spa after a sex acts were allegedly performed on him
  • Yang, 45, is a frequent guest at Mar-a-Lago and has also visited The White House and Trump Tower multiple times since President Trump took office
  • She claim to be out of the business now, but would not comment on whether or not she knew about human trafficking practices at establishments she founded
  • 'Leaders like you are the key to fulfilling our bold agenda to Make America Great Again,' wrote Trump in a note to Yang signed by himself and the First Lady
  • Yang donated $8,100 to the Trump Victory Fund in 2018, and on federal forms listed her occupation as Chairman of the Women's Charity Foundation
  • She owns three homes in neighboring counties in Florida and is still a registered cosmetologist
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...sted-Trump-donor-frequent-Mar-Lago-guest.html
This smells like another Trump setup to me. Someone is going to fall and it won't be Trump. We see this happen all the time that every time they think they have Trump backed into a corner, he exposes someone/something and these reports eventually are proven to be wholly inaccurate.

Trump may not be the best POTUS in US history but right now, during these times, he's the best man for the job!
 

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This smells like another Trump setup to me.
Gee, I wonder who might want to set up Trump?
Besides the obvious violation of emoluments clause of accepting gifts from a foreign power, this just got a whole lot more interesting.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...spas-escort-services-hotels-and-a7619136.html

China approves Donald Trump-branded spas, escort services, hotels and massage parlours without US Congress permission
Preliminary approval has been granted for 38 trademarks which raises further questions about conflicts of interest


Rachael Revesz New York @RachaelRevesz
Wednesday 8 March 2017 17:56

Congress has not been consulted about the dozens of China trademarks
Congress has not been consulted about the dozens of China trademarks ( EPA )
Chinese authorities have granted preliminary approval for dozens of Trump-branded businesses, expanding his commercial empire and raising further conflicts of interest, say lawyers.

The 38 trademarks include new hotels, spas, escort and concierge services, massage parlors, personal security services and insurance, according to public documents.

The President’s lawyers applied for the trademarks in April last year, at the same time the then Presidential candidate Trump was accusing China of "ripping off" the US and deliberately manipulating its currency to its own advantage.

READ MORE
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prompting national security concerns


Trump family say they will continue with foreign deals
If there is no objection, the trademarks will be formally registered after 90 days.

Ethics lawyers argue that if the Trump trademarks receive any special treatment due to their association with the President, it would violate the US Constitution, which prohibits those in public office from accepting anything of value from foreign governments, unless they are approved by Congress.

Congress has not approved the China trademarks.

Norm Eisen, who served as chief ethics lawyer for former President Barack Obama, told The Independent that the initial registration of a long-denied Trump trademark "certainly seems to run afoul of the foreign emoluments clause" of the US Constitution.

"I anticipate that these issues will enter into our litigation," he said.

"When Trump is profiting from these valuable Chinese benefits [...], how can we be sure he will advance US interests in his engagements with that country, for example by staunching the flow of American jobs out from the US to China?"

Richard Painter, who served as chief ethics lawyer for George W Bush, said a trademark in itself was not likely to be a violation of the constitutional emoluments clause, but he questioned why so many were granted over such a short period, and whether there was "an accommodation in at least some of them."

They have already filed a lawsuit to challenge the President’s alleged conflicts of interest.

China's State Administration for Industry and Commerce, which oversees the Trademark Office, and Trump Organization general counsel Alan Garten did not immediately respond to requests for comment from The Independent.

Spring Chang, a founding partner at Chang Tsi & Partners, a Beijing law firm that has represented the Trump Organization, declined to comment specifically on Trump's trademarks. But she did say that she advises clients to take out marks defensively, even in categories or subcategories of goods and services they may not aim to develop.

Trump Organisation 'contacted Taiwan mayor about hotel investment'
"I don't see any special treatment to the cases of my clients so far," she added. "I think they're very fair and the examination standard is very equal for every applicant."

The Trump Organisation is being run by Mr Trump’s two oldest sons, Donald Jr and Eric Trump, whilst he is in the White House. He was urged to divest from his businesses and place assets in a blind trust but has not done so. The trust, of which he is the sole beneficiary, is being run by Donald Jr and longtime associate Allen Weisselberg. The President can revoke the trust at any time and stands to benefit financially from it after his term is over.

His sons have continued to expand the Trump brand since Inauguration; in Canada and Dubai. Taxpayers have reportedly spent millions on security costs for the sons on their business trips around the world.
 

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"...she did say that she advises clients to take out marks defensively, even in categories or subcategories of goods and services they may not aim to develop. "....

The world does not work on one set of business rules / laws. What may seem suspicious to Western Practices maybe SOP in Red Chinese business circles. It may be needed to keep others from high jacking the Trump brand in Red China.

I see no issue unless the "marks" are activated while he is in political office.
Better to shut a barn door BEFORE the animals get out than to try and corral them in after they are out. IMO
 

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Yep, looks like she's an agent of the People's Republic.

https://www.motherjones.com/politic...-chinese-government-linked-groups-cindy-yang/
The Massage Parlor Owner Peddling Access to Trump Has Ties to Chinese Government-Linked Groups

The Cindy Yang caper takes another turn.

DANIEL SCHULMAN, DAVID CORN AND DAN FRIEDMANMARCH 10, 2019 2:49 PM


Yang, right, attends the 2016 Republican National Convention.

Li Yang, the Florida massage parlor entrepreneur who created and operated a business that sold Chinese business executives access to President Donald Trump and his family at Mar-a-Lago, has yet another intriguing line of work. She is an officer of two groups with ties to China’s Communist government. And she founded a Miami-based nonprofit that promotes “economic and cultural exchange” between China and the West in coordination with “senior…Chinese leaders” in the United States, according to a profile of Yang posted on a Chinese social media platform.

After Mother Jones on Saturday revealed that Yang, who goes by Cindy, had been peddling entrée to the Trump family, the Trump White House, and assorted GOP powerbrokers, national security experts noted that this situation could pose a threat, presenting opportunities for espionage or blackmail targeting the president and his inner circle. They expressed concern the Yang’s efforts to broker interactions with Trump and his clan could be exploited by Chinese intelligence. “Guess who else has 100% known about this from the beginning?” tweeted Susan Hennessey, a Brookings Institution fellow who previously worked as a National Security Agency lawyer. “Chinese intelligence services.” Samantha Vinograd, a CNN national security analyst who worked for the National Security Council during the Obama administration, noted: “Our intel community has said China poses one of the most significant counterintelligence challenges—my money is on the Chinese Govt having at least picked up on [Yang’s] access if they didn’t direct it.”

No direct evidence of any such activity has yet emerged. When Mother Jones tried to reach Yang at different phone numbers, each time a man answered the phone, said he did not speak English, and hung up. And Yang did not respond to emails. White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders did not respond to questions about security issues raised by Yang’s access. But these apparent links between Yang and Chinese government-related entities will likely fuel concerns that Yang’s actions could have a foreign influence or intelligence angle.

Prior to the 2016 presidential campaign, Yang, who emigrated to the United States from China about 20 years ago and who once worked as a journalist for a Chinese-language television network covering Silicon Valley, had no political profile. She and her family owned and operated a chain of Florida massage parlors, including the one where New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft was busted last month for soliciting prostitution. (Yang sold that particular spa around 2013, but her family continues to own massage parlors, including several that have a developed “a reputation for offering sexual services,” according to the Miami Herald. Yang has denied violating the law.) During the 2016 election, Yang dove aggressively into presidential politics, first helping to organize events for former Florida governor Jeb Bush before throwing her support behind Trump.

According to the profile of Yang that appears on the Chinese-language site Freewechat—which compiles posts from the Chinese social media platform WeChat—she was invited in 2016 “to serve as a member of the National Committee of the Asian American Republican Party.” The story notes that Yang was also tapped for senior roles in two other groups focused on China-related issues: the Florida branch of the Council for the Promotion of the Peaceful Reunification of China (CPPRC) and the Miami chapter of the American arm of the Chinese Association of Science and Technology. Both organizations have direct links to China’s Communist Party, and the CPPRC has been described as a vehicle for projecting Chinese influence in the West.


The Freewechat post includes a picture of Yang attending an event of the “Florida Peaceful Reunification Promotion Association.”
According to the Jamestown Foundation, a conservative think tank, the CPPRC, which advocates for China absorbing Taiwan, has affiliated chapters throughout the world. This organization, the think tank says, “maintains numerous branches in the United States, including chapters in New York, San Francisco, and other major cities. The national headquarters branch in the United States is the National Association for China’s Peaceful Unification (NACPU), located in Washington, D.C.” It adds, “The organization also takes pains both within China and without to present itself as one that represents broad sections of Chinese society outside of the Communist Party… However, such statements are misleading, and a cursory examination of the organization’s leadership structure reveals that the CPPRC is directly subordinate to the Communist Party’s United Front Work Department.” In July, the Daily Beast reported, “‘Peaceful reunification associations’—the term refers to Beijing’s intent to obtain sovereignty over Taiwan—have a close relationship with the [Communist Party’s] United Front Work Department, in some cases functioning almost as an extension of its Overseas Chinese Affairs Office.”

The China Association for Science and Technology describes itself as “a bridge that links the Communist Party of China and the Chinese government to the country’s science and technology community.” It is currently headed by a former minister of science and technology, and its leadership structure is full of Communist Party officials. In 1992, the China Association for Science and Technology, USA was founded in New York and since then affiliates have formed in locations including Washington, DC and South Florida. On the website of the Chinese Association for Science and Technology in South Florida, Yang is listed as vice president and pictured at events organized by the group.

In 2015, Yang formed a charity, initially called the Overseas International Female Organization (its name was subsequently changed to the Women’s Charity Foundation), stating in its incorporation records that its mission was to promote “cultural and economic exchange between China” and the West. The Freewechat profile of Yang notes that this organization, which does not appear to have nonprofit status, was formed jointly with “senior overseas Chinese leaders,” which seems to be a reference to leaders of the Chinese-American community. The year the organization was founded, Yang, as its representative, was invited to attend the welcoming ceremony for three Chinese warships that docked in Florida along with the Chinese ambassador to the United States and China’s consul general.

Yang has justifiably drawn scrutiny as a Trump donor who tried to cash in on her connections within the Trump-GOP cosmos, raising questions about whether she was working with people in Trump’s orbit. Her involvement with groups connected to the Chinese government and the Communist Party prompt additional questions about her activities.
 

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This smells like another Trump setup to me. Someone is going to fall and it won't be Trump. We see this happen all the time that every time they think they have Trump backed into a corner, he exposes someone/something and these reports eventually are proven to be wholly inaccurate.

Trump may not be the best POTUS in US history but right now, during these times, he's the best man for the job!
to me it looks like Deep state is firmly in control and anyone even remotely associated with trump is fair game. Sure didn't take em long to bring the hammer down after the stupid bowl.

On a positive note it does show how far along our communist gov has gotten. The Russians are very proud of the left right now.
 

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to me it looks like Deep state is firmly in control and anyone even remotely associated with trump is fair game. Sure didn't take em long to bring the hammer down after the stupid bowl.

On a positive note it does show how far along our communist gov has gotten. The Russians are very proud of the left right now.
We'll see!
 

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donor who tried to cash in on her connections within the Trump-GOP cosmos,
Pretty much sez it all right there in the 9th paragraph. Typical "Wannabe" or Chinese low level "spook" operation. IMO