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Full Auto at 1000m: The 7.92x41mm CETME Cartridge
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The US insistence on a full-power rifle cartridge for the NATO standard in the 1950s derailed a couple potentially very interesting concepts - including the 7.92x41mm CETME cartridge. This round was developed by Dr. Gunther Voss, formerly of Mauser, while working with other ex-Mauser employees like Ludwig Vorgrimler for the Spanish CETME concern. They were tasked with creating a rifle which could be fired effectively from the shoulder in fully automatic and also be capable of accurate fire out to 1000 meters.

This seemingly paradoxical concept was cracked by Voss, who designed a bullet which was both light weight to minimize recoil and also had an excellent ballistic coefficient for to retain velocity at long range and - most importantly - also had enough rotational inertia to remain stable at long range. He did this by making an aluminum bullet with a copper racket only around the center portion. The jacket's primary role was to add mass at the maximum diameter of the bullet to provide more rotational inertia for the round.

This bullet and the rifle built around it (the CETME Modelo 2) did quite well in both Spanish and American testing, as were well on the way to full Spanish adoption when the NATO trials became known. Spain opted to use the new international standard cartridge, but the CETME rifle was not built to withstand the much greater recoil of the 7.62x51mm NATO cartridge. Ultimately the rifle res redesigned for handle the NATO cartridge, becoming the CETME Modelo C, but one interim solution was the development of a 7.62x51mm CETME cartridge which was dimensionally identical to the NATO round but used a much lighter 112gr bullet. This round has become the basis for a number of myths about both CETME rifles and the FR-7 and FR-8 bolt action conversions made around the same time.

Note: I recognize that my statement about the FR-7 being designed for 7.62 NATO ammunition will be controversial, but that is the best reading of historical fact I can come to. As with any surplus rifle, any FR-7 should be inspected by a qualified gunsmith before being fired.

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Marlin UD-42 from the Dutch Resistance
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The UD-42 was originally the design of Carl "Gus" Swebilius, who was at the time (1940) working for the High Standard company. It failed to attract interest form the US military, but was appealing to the Dutch government for arming their East Indies colonies. A contract for 15,000 guns was signed, but High Standard did not have the production capacity to fill the order. Instead, the United Defense company took up the contract, and then subcontracted the actual manufacture to Marlin.

Production startup issues slowed production, however, and it was April 1941 before the first gun was completed. Delivery would not come before the Japanese completed their conquest of the Dutch East Indies, and the guns were repurposed. They were ideal for OSS and SOE use in supplying Resistance organizations in occupied Europe, and the bulk of the guns would be distributed in this way, from Greece to Norway and most everywhere in between. This particular example is in Holland, with provenance back to an OSS covert supply drop.

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Machine Gun Terminology Part 2: SMG, PDW, & Machine Pistol
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Published on Jan 12, 2018
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Today we have Part 2 of machine gun terminology - the small caliber guns. Specifically, submachine guns, personal defense weapons, and machine pistols.

Submachine Gun: Pistol caliber, fully automatic, and fitted with a shoulder stock. For example, Thompson, MP40, MAS-38.

Machine pistol: Handgun form factor and fully automatic. For example, Glock 18, Mauser Schnellfeuer, Stechkin.

Automatic Rifle: Shoulder or hip fired, limited magazine capacity, minimal sustained fire capacity. Examples: M1918 BAR, Chauchat.

Persinal Defense Weapon: (1) Armor-piercing or (2) holsterable submachine gun, not intended for front line combat. For example, FN P90, H&K MP7, Czech vz.61 Skorpion, Polish PM63 Rak.

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The All-American M14 did what it was asked to do (Cold War Rifles)
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Top Five WWII Small Arms
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Top 10 Things You Didn't Know About The Winchester Model 1894
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MAS-38 Shooting Fail
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I have been getting a lot of comments asking when there will be a shooting video with my MAS-38 submachine gun. If has cleared the NFA transfer process, so it's not actually in my possession. So, the next hurdle is finding ammunition. The 7.65 French Long cartridge it uses has been out of production for at least 50 years, and there are only very limited options.

The best one out there is Buffalo Arms, and I bought some from them (at just over $1/round) when they recently restocked it. Unfortunately, something about the cartridge does not allow it to feed and fire as it should - I'm not yet sure exactly why. This is simply a part of the process for guns with unusual ammunition like this, unfortunately.

I am going to attempt to get a company like Starline to begin producing proper new brass for the 7.65 French Long, as it would be usable not just in MAS-38 submachine guns but also in the cheap and fairly common 1935A and 1935S pistols.

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MAT 49: Iconic SMG of Algeria and Indochina
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The MAT-49 was developed by France after World War Two to satisfy the need for a more modern submachine gun to replace the MAS-38. The military had come around to standardizing on the 9x19mm cartridge for its pistols and subguns, and the 7.65mm MAS-38 was not feasible to convert. All three state arsenals and the Hotchkiss company submitted designs, and the Tulle arsenal won out with a gun that borrows substantially from the American M3 "Grease Gun".

About 700,000 MAT-49s were produced between 1949 and 1979, when it (along with the MAS 49/56 rifle) was replaced by the FAMAS bullpup rifle. During that time it saw substantial combat in France's colonial wars, notable Algeria and Indochina. Despite being a relatively heavy weapon, it came to be well liked by all who used it for its durability and reliability.

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Is the Zastava 7.62x25 M57 the best Tokarev ever imported?
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We've seen a lot of Tokarev, or TT33's, imported over the years but the Serbian Zastava M57 in 7.62x25 quite possibly is the cleanest, best representation of the gun ever imported under our goofy laws. The Zastava M57 Tokarev has one very special feature that I talk about in this video.
 

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Q&A #16: Lightning Round!
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Published on Jan 17, 2018
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Today we are doing a slightly different Q&A format, because I ran a bit short of time to do my usual background research on questions. So instead, we have a Lightning Round of short questions...7 pages of questions. Please et me know what you think of this format - I don't plan to use it frequently, but if you do like it I will occasionally throw one like this into the mix.

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Snabb Semiauto Conversion of a Dutch Mannlicher
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Snabb was a Swedish company created to market a system for converting bolt action rifles into semiautomatic rifles. The system was patented in the US in 1938, making this one of the very last attempts at such a conversion. It appears that the company made a substantial number of overtures to many different nations in search of a customer, as Snabb conversions can be found built on a wide variety of rifles - several patterns of Mauser, the US M1917 Enfield, 1903 Springfield, and in this particular case a Dutch Mannlicher. Not surprisingly, no country was shortsighted enough to actually convert its rifles into Snabb semiautos - you will understand why when you see how the rifle works!

The basic system is a gas trap one, but complicated by the use of a two-part system of interlocking ratchet teeth so that the forward blast of gas from firing pulls the muzzle cap forward, but it is the rearward return of the muzzle cap which actually propels the bolt rearward. The bolt remains a two-lug rotating type, with the manual handle removed and a screw cam added to the rear to convert the rearward movement of the operating rod into a rotary movement to unlock the bolt.

The strange stock is necessitated by the extension of the receiver to fully enclose the bolt's travel (not necessary with a manually operated bolt action rifle). With that extension, the trigger remains too far forward for a conventional grip, and a pistol grip is required. Snabb probably used the thumbhole style because it is stronger than a standalone grip. On this particular rifle, the original follower in the magazine is missing, but the rifle appears to have remained fed by 5-round Mannlicher clips. In addition, the rifle has been rebarreled in .303 British as part of the conversion, for unknown reasons.

Finally, it is worth pointing out that there is no "Snabb" marking anywhere on conversions like this one. They are quite distinctive and easy to recognize, but very difficult to research without knowning the name in the first place.

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Interview: Bill Chase on Restoring Collectible Firearms
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Today we are speaking with Bill Chase on the subject of restoration of collectible firearms. Mr. Chase is a very talented machinist and artisan, and has substantial experience in restoring firearms, including manufacturing new parts for some very rare and valuable guns. This video was promtped by my discovery that he had purchased a really rough Reifgraber .32 S&W pistol that was featured in a Forgotten Weapons video several years ago, and had restored it to a beautiful new condition. So - what is involved in that sort of work?

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Wildey Survivor .45 WinMag: Perfect for a Backup Gun Match
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Published on Jan 20, 2018
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Thanks to Peter, we have a .45 Winchester Magnum Wildey Survivor to do some video with. I figured the best way to start would be to take it to a Backup Gun match, right? Unfortunately, I had continuous feeding problems despite having (I thought) gotten the gas system properly dialed in. Despite that, the match was still a lot of fun, and I am looking forward to doing more with this behemoth of a hand cannon. Enjoy!

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How to Check If A P08 Luger Has All Matching Serial Numbers
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Today I am visiting Simpson Ltd in Galesburg, Illinois - a gun shop, import/export shop, and premier Luger dealer. The question we are look at is one of the most common they hear from customers: how do you tell if a Luger is all matching? When the guns were originally made, the factory put the serial number on a whole bunch of different parts, and on many guns some of these parts have been replaced over the years. A gun that retains all of its original matching parts brings a substantial increase in value.

We are going to look at a standard WWII German Army Luger, which is the most common type in the US today, and show you where each of the number is on the outside and the inside. There are many other types of Lugers with somewhat different numbering patterns, but this will hopefully be a good primer for you!

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A Tour of Simpson Ltd - Gun Shop Extraordinaire
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Simpson Ltd is a great gun shop with an impressively extensive selection. In addition to a wide variety of military and sporting rifles, they are also the largest Luger dealer in the country, if not the world. Check them out at SimpsonLtd.com or stop by the shop in person in Galesburg Illinois.
 

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Colt Model 1903 Pocket Hammerless
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Inglis High Power: How a Chinese Whim Became A British Service Pistol
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Published on Jan 25, 2018
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During World War Two, the Canadian government set up a loan program to help Chinese companies provide all manner of material aid to Canada’s allies. Among many others, one recipient of this aid was the Nationalist Chinese government under Chiang Kai Shek. Chinese representatives asked the John Inglis company to manufacture no less than 180,000 Browning High Power pistols, and the company agreed.

After some wrangling, Inglis acquired a license from FH representatives to make the guns, got a complete technical package through the British government and FN’s representatives in exile, and the direct personal aid of Laloux and Saive from FN. Delivery proved difficult, though, with only about 4000 guns being shipped to Karachi and then needing to be flown over The Hump in cargo planes, along with massive amounts of other aid - and a few pistols didn’t get a lot of priority there.

By the fall of 1944, the contract was cancelled under concerns that it was not really contributing to any progress in the war against the Japanese, along with insistence from American General Stilwell that the Chinese forces be armed with weapons that could be supplied more easily through the American logistic network. Production restarted after the defeat of Germany, with another 40,000 or so being made and delivered before it was cancelled again when the Nationalist Chinese forces were seen to be clearly losing to their Communist opponents.

Each of these pistols was supplied with a combination shoulder stock and holster. In the US, attaching a stock to a pistol would normally subject it to registration as a Short Barreled Rifle, but the Inglis High Powers are among the guns exempted from this requirement. They are, in fact, among the least expensive and most modern guns to be exempted in this way.

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Armalite AR-17: A Shotgun from the World of Tomorrow!
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Published on Jan 27, 2018
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Armalite was a company founded as an offshoot of the Fairchild Aircraft company, and working with aluminum was their specialty. This was a fairly novel material to the arms industry, and they were able to exploit it fantastically in the AR-10 and AR-15 rifles. The AR15 rights were sold to Colt in 1959, though, and Armalite went in search of other guns to market.

One of these was the AR-17, introduced in 1964 to the commercial market, aimed at hunters and sport shooters. It was a short recoil action with a 10(!) lug coating bolt similar to the earlier Armalite rifles and a 2-round capacity, chambered for 2.75” 12 gauge shells. It didn’t have a magazine so much as a single round lifter/elevator in addition to the chambered round. Most importantly, it was a nearly all-aluminum gun, weighing just 5.5 pounds (2.5kg). Only the barrel extension and bolt were steel, plus a few small parts. The receiver and barrel were hardened aluminum, and the furniture was foam-filled Nylon. The was truly the shotgun from The World of Tomorrow!

Unfortunately for Armalite, being extremely lightweight was not necessarily a good thing in a shotgun. It was certainly nice to carry for long periods while hunting, but short shooters found its heavy recoil to be punishing. The light weight also brought complaints that it did not swing well. And finally the limited 2-round capacity, while not logically a problem for the intended uses, was a turn-off to many potential buyers. Parts for 2000 of the guns were manufactured in 1964 and 1965, but only about 1200 were actually assembled and sold. The gun was a commercial failure by all measures.
 

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Pietta's PPS/50 - A Popular PPSh Plinker
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Published on Jan 29, 2018
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Introduced by the Italian Pietta company in the 1970s (yes, the same Pietta that makes all those reproduction Old West revolvers and lever action rifles), the PPS/50 has been a continuously popular firearm for more than 40 years now. Designed to roughly resemble a Soviet PPSh-41 submachine gun, the PPS/50 is a semiautomatic .22 rimfire for the recreational market and nothing more. It is a simple blowback action, and perhaps the most interesting mechanical feature is its 50-round drum magazine (which is really what differentiates it from the plethora of other rimfire semiautomatic rifles on the market). The drum is remarkably reliable, and has certainly contributed to the long sustained manufacture of the PPS/50.
 

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Argentine 1909 Cavalry Carbine
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Orden Y Patria: Carabineros de Chile Model 1935 Mauser
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Published on Jan 31, 2018
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The Carabinieros de Chile were formed in 1927 by combining the Rural Police, Fiscal Police, and Corps of Carabinieros into a single national police organization. We do not have an organization like this in the United States, but they are fairly common elsewhere in the world, acting as sort of a combination of National Guard, FBI, and police.

At any rate, the Carabinieros needed rifles, and in 1935 they placed an order for 10,000 carbines from Mauser in Oberndorf. These were chambered for 7x57mm Mauser (the standard Chilean military cartridge) and were all delivered prior to the outbreak of World War Two. They are excellent quality rifles, and feature a number of unique markings, most notable the receiver crest of crossed rifles over the Carbinieros motto, “Orden Y Patria”. They also have a unique sling arrangement, with the original Mauser quick-detach fitting fixed permanently in place by the addition of a saddle ring for mounted use.

This particular example is all matching, including the cleaning rod, and has very nice distinct stock markings.
 

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Norinco SKS NR Rifles
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The SKS has always been popular on the US market. The Chinese SKS has taken on many forms over the years from standard Chinese SKS rifles to Russian SKS rifles and even Yugoslavian and Romanian SKS rifles. The Chinese Norinco SKS NR rifles are some of the most interesting I've found that use AK magazines.
 

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The Albanian SKS: A Few Different Details
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The Albanian SKS is the rarest of the major adoptees of the SKS rifle (Russia, China, Romania, Yugoslavia, Albania), and has a handful of interested details that differ from all other examples of the SKS rifle. The gun came about as the result of Albanian dictator Enver Hoxha’s pivot from Soviet to Chinese alliance in the 1960s. Mao granted Albania a license to produce the Type 56 SKS in 1962, and the country would produce between 15,000 and 20,000 or the rifles by 1978.

Mechanically, the Albanian version is identical to the Chinese Type 56. It differs in a few aesthetic details, however:

- Longer stock and handguards, completely covering the gas tube
- Hook shaped bolt handle
- Curved profile to the magazine body
- Two trapdoors in the buttstock
- Slightly shorter spike bayonet

These may not be hugely important details, but the give the Albanian SKS a different (and I think better) look than the other variations. In addition to the dated examples between 1967 and 1978 (less 1972-75, when no production took place), there are also a batch of undated examples. These may be the early year or years of production, but this is not known for sure.
 

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Would you Rather: Ep.1-Colt Model 1917 vs. P.08 Luger- Western Front, 1918.
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CZ38 - The Czech Ugly Ducking
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The CZ vz.38 pistol was developed by the CZ factory as a replacement for Czechoslovakia’s vz.24 pistols. It was formally accepted by the Czech Army in June of 1938, and 41,000 were ordered from the factory. Tooling and production setup took close to a year, and the German military occupied the country just 4 days after testing of the first pre-production batch of pistols. However, the German authorities decided that CZ should complete to pistol production anyway, and took possession of the guns themselves for use by the Wehrmacht, Reich Labor Service, Luftwaffe, and other services at the Pistole 39(t).

The initial order of 41,000 was completed by the end of 1939 with serial numbers from 250,000 through 291,000 and accepted by the Czech military on behalf of the Germans - so these pistols will not have waffenamt marks. Two additional batches were made - 3000 guns for the Luftwaffe (numbered 240,000-242,000) and 1000 for export, probably to Bulgarian (with B-prefix serial numbers 291,000-292,000).

Mechanically, the vz.38 is a simple blowback automatic pistol chambered for the .380 cartridge, aka 9mm Browning or 9x17mm. It is a rather awkward looking gun, and a double action only trigger. It does have a quite unique and very simple disassembly procedure though!
 

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Authenticating a Very Rare GL Script Luger
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Published on Feb 6, 2018
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Luger collecting is one of the most detail-oriented and tricky niches in the whole firearms community - the amount of knowledge that has been documented is staggering, and the level of obsession with Lugers has led to lots of people chasing a small number of rare examples. And what do you get when lots of people are willing to pay a lot for a small number of items only slightly different from common versions of the same thing? Fakes, of course!

Today we are going to use an advertised fake to look at how one might go about assessing a potentially very rare Luger - one of the 10,000B serial range with a GL script toggle.
 

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SITES Spectre: Think of it as an SMG, not a pistol
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Published on Feb 8, 2018
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The SITES Spectre was originally developed by the SITES company (Societa Italiana a Technologie Speciali SPA) of Torino to be the best police and counterterrorist submachine gun on the market. To this end, they studied the other guns on the market and what made a good SMG. The results were rolled into the Spectre design - things like minimal width (about 35mm), no protrusions to the sides, ambidextrous controls, closed-bolt operation, quad-stack magazines, and a double action trigger option in place of a traditional manual safety. The gun went into production in 1985 as the Model 2…but did not garner many sales.

It was shortly updated to the Model 4 with improved sights and stock, and better disassembly procedure. It was also released as a semiautomatic pistol and carbine, in an effort to create some cash flow on the civilian market. The standard version was in 9x19mm, but it was also sold in .40 S&W, 9x21 IMI, and .45 ACP. Importation into the US lasted until 1993, and the guns were never all that popular. As a submachine gun it was a fine design, but simply not better enough than its competition to bring sales in a market crowded with other options. As a semiautomatic pistol, it was heavy and awkward (6.4 pounds / 2.9kg unloaded). SITES went out of business in 1997 and the rights were purchased by Swiss company Greco Sport. They continued to manufacture them until 2001, and went out of business themselves in 2006.
 

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Cold War Collectables - CZ vz.70 and vz.50 pistols
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Published on Feb 7, 2018
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During the Cold War the Czechs found themselves on the wrong side of the Iron Curtain. However, they didn't like their communist masters and longed for freedom. The Czech have produced, and continue to produce, some of the finest military firearms in the world. The vz.50 and vz.70 .32 ACP / 7.65 Browning pistols, primarily used by police, are examples of Czech craftsmanship and pride.

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Swiss rifles are back! - 1896/11 and K11s
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Published on Feb 9, 2018
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These will be available 2/12/18 Monday @ 10AM EST.
Please see the "how 2 order" page on the site for full details.(It's under the contact button.)
 

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The Only Gun With Rollin White's Name
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Published on Feb 12, 2018
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While Rollin White’s patent for the bored-through cylinder was a massively important element in the development of Smith & Wesson as a company, White’s actual firearms design was impractical and never produced. In fact, there is only one firearm that actually bears his name - the solid frame .22 rimfire revolvers made by the Rollin White Arms Company. And yet, his association with that company is a bit mysterious and certainly not very deep.

The company was formed in 1864 and by 1865 had a contract to make rimfire revolvers for Smith & Wesson to resell. This implies some sort of cooperation with White himself, but White is not listed as an officer of the company at its foundation, and by 1865 it changed its name to the Lowell Arms Company, clearly indicating a break with White - whatever the initial association had been.

S&W bought all of the Rollin White and Lowell produced revolvers, 11,853 in total. They were marked “Manufactured for Smith and Wesson” in the same manner as the four brands of patent infringing revolvers that were sued by White and S&W. Later examples include a loading gate and ejector rod, but this early one is of the basic standard pattern. To reload, the cylinder is removed and the axis pin used as an ejector rod.
 

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The G3 has been a workhorse across the world (Cold War Rifles)
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Published on Feb 4, 2018
Continuing on with our Cold War Rifle series, we focus on the G3 (CETME, HK91, Model 58).

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Daewoo K1A1: A Hybrid AR-15 and AR-18
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Published on Feb 14, 2018
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During and after the Korean War, the South Korean military was armed with American weapons - M1 Garands, M1 Carbines, M3/M3A1 Grease Guns, and so on. In the 1970s they wanted to modernize their equipment, and looked to the US. South Korea purchased M16A1 rifles form Colt, and the Daewoo conglomerate obtained a license to manufacture them. Around the same time, they began a development program to produce a new array of Korean domestic small arms. The first result was the K1, a 5.56mm carbine (designated a submachine gun) to replace the Grease Gun.

The K1 used the AR15 gas system and AR15 fire control system, but couples with a right-side charging handle and a bolt carrier and recoil spring setup similar to the AR18, negating the need for a recoil spring in the stock and allowing the use of a wire collapsing stock. In its military form, it had a 10.4 inch barrel, and had both semiauto and full auto fire settings. The K1 remains in South Korean service today in the K1C form, updated to allow mounting of optics and other accessories.

In the 1980s and early 90s, the K1 was imported into the United States under several different names, including the K1A1, MAX-1, and (in the case of the rifle in today’s video) AR-110C. All had barrels lengthened to 16 inches to avoid the NFA, and were semiautomatic only.
 

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How to Identify a Real M1A1 Carbine vs a Fake
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Published on Feb 10, 2018
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Looking for a light and compact weapon to equip its new Airborne units, the US military adopted the M1A1 Carbine in May of 1942. This was mechanically identical to the existing M1 Carbine but with a wire-frame side folding stock in place of the standard wooden stock. This allowed the M1A1 to fit into a very handy leg bag for paratroops.

Deliveries began in October 1942, with all of the guns being manufactured by the Inland company. A total of 140,591 were made in two batches (71,000 between October 1942 and October 1943 and another 69,000 between April and December 1944). This is a very small fraction of the more than 6 million M1 Carbines made during the war, and the M1A1 has become quite notable and desirable for its association with elite Airborne units. As a result, reproduction and fake stocks abound, and are quite difficult to tell from original ones.

Today we are going to look at some of the specific features that can help you authenticate an M1A1 stock.
 

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China's CF-98 Modular Service Pistol
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Published on Feb 16, 2018
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China adopted this pistol in 1998 in a domestic 5.8x21mm cartridge, and also manufactured examples like this one in 9x19mm Parabellum for export. It is a design built around a sheet metal skeleton holding the fire control parts, with a polymer grip assembly that can be changed out. A rotating barrel locking system like the Steyr-Hahn and Beretta PX4 is used, and the magazine is a double feed type, unusual to find in handguns.

Overall, the gun is functional and reliable, but otherwise uninspiring. The trigger in particular is not very good by American or European standards. As with their recently developed bullpup rifle, it seems the Chinese military was looking for a weapon that was economical and functional...and not much more.

Many thanks to the anonymous collector who let me take a look at this piece and bring you a video on it!