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Oregon fires largely result of arson

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Yeah. There aren't any conservatives trying to blow up hotels.

There aren't any intelligent people, even if terrorists, trying to blow up a natural gas line with a blanket and a bic.

There aren't any sane people who'll say, "Sorry ossifer - I thought this was a Federal building" and expect it'll all be okay.

I'm just amazed they didn't get an official blaming the fire-attempt on Glow Bull Warming and Orange-Man-Bad.
 

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Jackson County Sheriff's Office - Oregon

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The following is a list of many of the arrests made in the Almeda and Obenchain fire areas. Arrests for warrants and probation/parole violations may not be listed.
Almeda Fire Area Arrests.

20-17291
Arrested:
McName, Steven 02/23/1975
Charges:
Disorderly Conduct, Harassment, Resisting Arrest, and Interfering with a Police Officer
Summary:
On Tuesday, September 8, 2020, JCSO Deputies responded to assist fire personnel with an individual who was interfering with them putting out a fire. The suspect was uncooperative and shoved one of the Deputies. The suspect, McName, was arrested on the above listed charges.

20-17292
Arrested:
Bakkela, Michael J 12/09/78
Charges:
Summary:
Detectives arrested Bakkela on the above listed charges after witness information and evidence indicated he had started fires in the area.

20-17306
Arrested:
Smith, David 10/04/1982
Charges:
Driving While Suspended - Misdemeanor
Summary:
Looters were reported in the area of the irrigation canal near Rose St. Officers and Deputies were able to contact the suspects and evidence indicated that there had been a theft of marijuana. Smith was lodged in the Jackson County Jail for theft. The investigation is ongoing regarding further possible charges.

20-17304
Arrested:
Lockwood, Ivan 06/25/1946
Charges:
Attempted Elude, Resisting Arrest, Interfering with Police Officer, Attempted Assault on a Police Officer
Summary:
Lockwood reportedly travelled through a road block. When Deputies attempted to stop him, he fled in his vehicle. After a short pursuit he pulled into a driveway on N. Front St. in Talent. Ivan resisted arrest and was eventually lodged in the Jackson County Jail.

20-17307
Arrested:
Mahan, Kyle Delaney 10/02/1991
Charges:
Burglary 1, Theft 1, Criminal Trespass 1
Summary:
Mahan was called in by local citizens as trying to gain access into a house with a crowbar. Deputies and Officers located Mahan who was lodged in the Jackson County Jail on the above listed charges.

20-17317
Arrested:
Walter, Jesse 11/03/1985
Charges:
Reckless Driving, Reckless Endangering.
Summary:
Walter was cited and released for the above charges after running over cones and almost striking Search and Rescue personnel manning a roadblock.

20-17338
Arrested:
Thomas Owen Freidel
Charges:
Detainer placed by PO. Vehicle impounded for DWS-V and driving uninsured.
Summary:
On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at approximately 10:00am, JCSO Deputies contacted Thomas Owen Freidel in the Level 3 evacuation area for the Alameda Fire after previously being warned to leave for suspicious activity. Freidel was found in possession of 3 firearms and was lodged in Jackson County Jail for a Probation Violation. Freidel’s vehicle was impounded for DWS-Violation and Driving Uninsured.

20-17365
Arrested:
Jeffrey Stuart Hanscom
Charges:
Cited/Released on a FTA Theft 3 Medford Muni Court warrant.
Summary:
On Friday, September 11, 2020 at approximately 2:30pm, JCSO Deputies and Phoenix Officers responded to a report of suspicious activity in the Level 3 evacuation zone for the Alameda Fire near the 4000 block of S. Pacific Highway. Law enforcement made contact with Jeffrey Stuart Hanscom who was later cited and release on a Medford municipal warrant for Failure to Appear-Theft 3.

20-17377
Arrested:
Aram Seamus Crow Hampson
Charges:
DUII, Theft by Receiving, (2) Warrants.
Summary:
On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at approximately 02:00am, JCSO Deputies conducted a traffic stop near the 3000 block of Coleman Creek Road. The vehicle was in operation by Aram Seamus Crow Hampson. Hampson was found to have multiple felony warrants out of Jackson and Marion County. Hampson also had possession of a firearm and stolen property. Hampson was lodged for DUII, Theft by Receiving, and his warrants. Hampson’s vehicle was impounded for DWS
and no insurance.

TPD 20-2367
Arrested:
Calvielli, Edward 07/28/1978
Charges:
Menacing
Summary:
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020, Calvielli was report as a possible looter in the area of the fire. When confronted by the caller, Calvielli reportedly pulled a knife on him. After investigation Calvielli was cited and released for menacing.

TPD 20-2407
Open investigation, no suspect information at this time.
Summary:
Crown Market in Talent reports a burglary to the business.

MPD 20-14982
Arrested:
Osborne, Coby 08/30/1985
Charges:
Attempted Elude in a Vehicle, Misdemeanor warrant FTA – DUII.
Summary:
Officers initiated a traffic stop. The driver, Osborne, attempted to elude the officers in his vehicle. He was eventually taken into custody after a 5-minute pursuit.

MPD 20-15070
Arrested/Charges:
Jason Gibbs 6/10/86-
Burg 1 (2 counts)
Theft 1 (2 counts)
*No Matrix*
Cameryn Geiger 4/24/91-
Felony Probation Violation warrant
Burg 1 (2 counts)
Theft 1 (2 counts)
*No Matrix*
Manuel Parks 11/8/76-
(2) Felony Probation Violation warrants
Burg 1 (2 counts)
Theft 1 (2 counts)
Headrick, Christopher 6/28/79 –
PCS/Meth- misdemeanor (PC-new charge)
Theft 3 (2 counts)(Muni-new charge)
Smith, Kevin P. 1/2/90 –
Parole Violation Warrant
Summary:
1. On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at approximately 07:00, Medford Officers were on extra patrol in the Level 3 Evacuation area near the 3000 block of S Pacific Highway. Medford Officers discovered residences that appeared to have been burglarized. Nearby on the Greenway, they located suspected stashes of stolen property in bushes. Later, Medford Officers located four males with warrants returning to the stash sites. All were lodged in the Jackson County Jail on No Matrix. The investigation revealed an additional suspect. Consent to search their camps on the Greenway resulted in addition recovered stolen property.

MPD 20-15169
Arrested:
Kraft, Joshua E 04/28/1988
Charges:
Trespass 1, Disorderly Conduct II, Resisting Arrest
Summary:
Kraft used a hole in a fence to pass from the Bear Creek Greenway into the Medford Mobile Estates. When contacted by Officers he attempted to shove past them. Kraft resisted arrested but was eventually taken into custody and lodged in the Jackson County Jail.

OSP Sp20257520
Arrested:
Lee, Gordon A. 02/23/2001
Charges:
DUII
Summary:
An OSP Trooper made a traffic stop where the driver was found to be impaired. Arrested for DUII. Breath test refused.

OSP SP20258256
Arrested:
Walch, Rebeca Elizabeth 33 YO
Charges:
Throwing Burning material
Summary:
A Trooper witnessed the suspect throwing burning material, lit cigarette ash, from her vehicle.

OSP SP20261090
Macinnes, Devin 26 YO
DUII – Controlled substance
Contacted after complaints of a hazard vehicle parked in the lane of travel on I5. Driver contacted and slumped over the wheel. Consented to SFST’s and performed poorly. Lodged at the Jackson County Jail. Consented to breath test but refused to provide a urine sample.

OSP SP20261271
Champion, Christina K 40 YO
DUII
OSP responded to a singe vehicle crash. Upon investigation driver was transported to the hospital, where she was found to have a BAC of .10. Driver cited and released for DUII and careless driving.

OSP SP20261415
Campbell, Jennifer Teresa 45 YO
DUII
Reckless Endangering of Highway Workers
Attempt to elude
Reckless Endangering a person
Vehicle approached a traffic control point to gain access to level 3 evacuation area. Trooper told driver she could not enter, at which time she forced her way through the roadblock in the wrong direction. OSP attempted to stop the vehicle and driver attempted to flee. Indicators of impairment were observed and she denied to perform SFST’s. She was arrested for listed charges.
Obenchain Fire Arrests

Case# 20-17357
Arrested:
Ricky Lee Davis (06/27/81)
Christopher Stegeman (12/02/87)
Charges:
Davis lodged for Burg 1, Theft 1, Carrying concealed firearm, felon in possession of a firearm, and a Parole/Pro violation.
Stegeman lodged for Burg 1, Theft 1.
Summary:
On Friday, September 11, 2020 at approximately 06:30am, several JCSO units responded to the area of Rogue River Dr. and Highway 62 for a report of two suspicious males on foot in the area walking through town. Additional callers reported a suspicious vehicle with a truck bed full of property. They were later located by EPPD at Walmart with a truck load of stolen items. Davis (a convicted felon) was carrying at .38 revolver concealed on his hip. The truck was seized for a search warrant.

Case# 20-17340
Arrested:
Katrina Lathrop
Reed Tardif
Charges:
Lathrop - Burg 1, Theft 1
Tardif -Burg 1, Theft 1
Summary:
On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at approximately 11:30am, JCSO Deputies were flagged down regarding a possible looting situation. After the suspects fled the immediate area, JCSO Deputies intercepted them and recovered property attempting to be hid in the bushes. Both suspects were lodged for Burglary 1 and Theft 1.

Case# 20-17380
Arrested:
Padyn Dineen
Charges:
Aggravated Theft 1 and Burglary 2
Summary:
On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at approximately 07:00am, JCSO Deputies responded to multiple reports of a suspicious male on a quad traveling at a high rate of speed. JCSO Deputies located the quad and discovered it to be stolen from an evacuated residence. Dineen was later arrested on probable cause.
 

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"Well, the insurance would pay them back..."

-- Unless the homeowner terminates you on the spot!
 

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"Well, the insurance would pay them back..."

-- Unless the homeowner terminates you on the spot!
I like the Unless Clause in those circumstance.
 

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and the arson fires are insurance exempt also...

how many homes now???
 

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Are you sure that isn't just when the homeowner burns his own place down to collect the insurance money?
Depends on the policy. Some policies, home, auto...have riders excluding "Acts of War, Declared or Undeclared" and others exclude riot or arson.

There are a lot of differences - partly depending on the level of coverage.
 

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Depends on the policy. Some policies, home, auto...have riders excluding "Acts of War, Declared or Undeclared" and others exclude riot or arson.
I took a look at my policy as an example. It excludes arson only if the property has been vacant more than 60 days.
 

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"Fire officials say at least 13 fires that may have grown and merged into the Beachie Creek Fire were started by downed power lines. "

This is one of the big Oregon fires, about 20,000 acres and ~500 homes destroyed. So far the reports I see are blaming lighting as the initial cause. None of this info includes or excludes excludes the possibility of arson as an additional contributor. There are two hydro dams inside the fire area with their associated major power lines.

https://katu.com/news/local/downed-power-lines-started-13-fires-near-detroit-incident-report-says
 

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"Fire officials say at least 13 fires that may have grown and merged into the Beachie Creek Fire were started by downed power lines. "

This is one of the big Oregon fires, about 20,000 acres and ~500 homes destroyed. So far the reports I see are blaming lighting as the initial cause. None of this info includes or excludes excludes the possibility of arson as an additional contributor. There are two hydro dams inside the fire area with their associated major power lines.

https://katu.com/news/local/downed-power-lines-started-13-fires-near-detroit-incident-report-says
What made all these power lines fall to the ground? How many other power lines fell to the ground at the same time, but failed to start a major fire?
 

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I came across a riveting account of the Beachie Creek fire. It's pretty long, and does give one example of a power line coming down. It claims that at one point the fire was advancing at 500 feet per second, which I cannot fathom. At the very bottom there are before and after pictures of a destroyed home. For orientation purposes, Detroit is a small town and a major tourist destination, on the largest lake within a few hours driving from Portland, Salem, and Eugene. The other towns mentioned are not tourist destinations.

https://www.salemreporter.com/posts/2931/special-report-a-night-in-hell-santiam-canyons-ordeal
 

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I came across a riveting account of the Beachie Creek fire. It's pretty long, and does give one example of a power line coming down. It claims that at one point the fire was advancing at 500 feet per second, which I cannot fathom. At the very bottom there are before and after pictures of a destroyed home. For orientation purposes, Detroit is a small town and a major tourist destination, on the largest lake within a few hours driving from Portland, Salem, and Eugene. The other towns mentioned are not tourist destinations.

https://www.salemreporter.com/posts/2931/special-report-a-night-in-hell-santiam-canyons-ordeal
I stopped reading when they started blaming climate change
 

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Are you sure that isn't just when the homeowner burns his own place down to collect the insurance money?
Civil Disobedience, Riots, War, it's specified that certainly those are not to be considered to be Acts of God, especially when the civil authorities do absolutely nothing to stop any of these

i'd believe the insurance companies have a right to sue the cities on behalf of their customers but i'll suspect that ain't going to happen either

just a hunch on all of it, insurance companies don't profit by paying out and will avoid all unnecessary costs associated with all of it

they are Not Our Friends
 

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32-count indictment returned against man accused of arson, criminal mischief in fire set in southern Oregon



https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/09/32-count-indictment-returned-against-man-accused-of-arson-criminal-mischief-in-fire-set-in-southern-oregon.html

A 41-year-old man accused of lighting a fire near railroad tracks behind a home in Phoenix last week has been indicted on 32 criminal charges, including two counts of arson.

A Jackson County grand jury on Tuesday returned the indictment against Michael Jarrod Bakkela, charging him with two counts of first-degree arson, 15 counts of first-degree criminal mischief, 14 counts of recklessly endangering another and one count of unlawful possession of methamphetamine.

Bakkela is accused of setting a fire in the area of Quail Lane and Barnum Drive on the night of Sept. 8 that damaged 15 properties, threatened the lives of 14 people in nearby neighborhoods between Phoenix and Medford and contributed to the Almeda fire that ravaged the area, according to the sheriff’s office.

Bakkela is being held on an enhanced bail of $5 million and is set to be arraigned on the indictment Wednesday in Jackson County Circuit Court, according to court records.

According to the county Sheriff’s Office, residents in the 1100 block of Quail Lane called 911 at 5:09 p.m. Sept. 8 to report that a man, later identified as Bakkela, was lighting a fire near the railroad tracks behind their home. A deputy took Bakkela into custody a short time later.

Detectives suspect Bakkela drove into a gated area, parked a vehicle, started a fire and then fled north before he was stopped, according to the Sheriff’s Office.



Finally, a court that is not fucking around.
 

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GOP Candidate For Washington Governor Claims Wildfires Are ‘Coordinated’ Arson



https://www.huffpost.com/entry/republican-candidate-governor-washington-wildfires_n_5f63d806c5b6184558688ecd



Loren Culp, the Republican challenging Democratic Gov. Jay Inslee, appears to echo right-wing conspiracists rather than official data.

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Loren Culp, the Republican nominee running to unseat Washington Gov. Jay Inslee (D), is pushing a conspiracy theory that many of the wildfires raging in the Pacific Northwest are the result of a coordinated arson campaign.


In a 13-minute campaign video posted to Culp’s YouTube late Wednesday, the gubernatorial candidate talks with two homeowners in a neighborhood that apparently was charred by the Cold Springs fire, near Omak.


“I know statewide there’s about 600,000 acres that have burned,” Culp said. “And a lot of them have apparently been set intentionally ― like this one. A couple people have been caught so far. Hopefully they investigate the heck out of this.”


“It’s something bigger,” one of the homeowners responded.


“To have that many fires set all over the state, it’s gotta be coordinated,” Culp added.



Good to see candidates/citizens are waking up.

As usual, HuffPo doesn't disappoint
 

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I say we go Biblical and burn arsonists at the stake.
 

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Armenian church building burns in San Francisco, arson suspected



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/armenian-church-building-burns-in-san-francisco-arson-suspected/ar-BB199JSy


A fire gutted two floors of a four-story community center owned by the neighboring St. Gregory the Illuminator Armenian Apostolic Church in San Francisco early Thursday, and church leaders suspect arson.


"They set three different fires, two on the bottom floor, and one on the middle floor," said Rostom Aintablian, chairman pastor of the Board of the Trustees. "We do think it’s arson."


Wildfires, wildfires everywhere!
 

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Suspect in custody after confirmed arson at Raleigh hotel



https://www.wral.com/suspect-in-custody-after-confirmed-arson-at-raleigh-hotel/19292090/


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Suspect in custody after confirmed arson at Raleigh hotel

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arson, Wake County, Raleigh police, Raleigh Fire Department



Posted September 17, 2020 9:30 p.m. EDT

Updated September 17, 2020 10:25 p.m. EDT



Raleigh, N.C. — Raleigh police arrested a man after confirming that a Raleigh hotel was set on fire Thursday.

Police told WRAL News reporter Rosalia Fodera a suspect was in custody after officials responded to a fire on the third floor of the Super 8, at 3801 Capital Blvd. Firefighters responded to the fire just before 8 p.m. and put it out in about 20 minutes. There were 45 firefighters who responded to the scene.

The man arrested, whose name hasn’t been released, was in a room with a woman and, after setting the fire, he ran to a nearby restaurant, where he was apprehended, police said. He was transported to WakeMed for evaluation. Charges were pending Thursday night.
 

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No,

It MUST be climate change.

62F with fog.

Armenian church building burns in San Francisco, arson suspected



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/armenian-church-building-burns-in-san-francisco-arson-suspected/ar-BB199JSy


A fire gutted two floors of a four-story community center owned by the neighboring St. Gregory the Illuminator Armenian Apostolic Church in San Francisco early Thursday, and church leaders suspect arson.


"They set three different fires, two on the bottom floor, and one on the middle floor," said Rostom Aintablian, chairman pastor of the Board of the Trustees. "We do think it’s arson."


Wildfires, wildfires everywhere!
 

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Arson arrest map


Pretty much destroys the narrative of "drought and lightning"

And these are just the ones that got caught



Tip of the iceberg



https://twitter.com/BrianGPowell/status/1307557073069240326
 

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The difference between Oregon and Texas... not as big a difference as you might think...

Though basically the Texans told FEMA to 'leave us alone - we'll get it done' type of attitude - which is what Oregoneons did

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Bastrop Fire 212 degrees story

Here are some stories you won’t hear about the Tri-county fire in Montgomery, Grimes, and Waller County the weeks following Labor Day, 2011. Although Kenna promises to write a book.

My neighbor across the road has a sister named Kenna. Memorial Day, when she saw the huge column of smoke over our homes, she left a birthday party at my neighbor’s house to meet with her friend Tara at the Baseball complex in Magnolia. She called the owner of the complex and got permission to use the warehouse there as a staging area for donations for the fire fighting effort.

They put a notice out on facebook that they were going to be taking donations on their facebook pages. That night as they were setting up tables and organizing, News 2 Houston came by and saw the activity, investigated and left with the phone numbers and a list of suggested donations. The facebook notice propagated faster than the fire. By dawn they had 20 volunteers, bins, forklifts, and donations were pouring in. I stopped by with my pitiful little bags of nasal wash and eye wash, and was amazed.

There must have been 20 trucks in the lot, offloading cases of water, pallets of Gatorade , and people lined up out the door with sacks of beef jerky, baby wipes, underwear, socks, and you name it. School buses and trailers from many counties around were there offloading supplies, students forming living chains to pass stuff into the bins for transport to the command center and staging areas. If the firefighters had requested it, it was there. What do you give the guy out there fighting the fire that might engulf your home? Anything he or she wants. Including chewing tobacco and cigarettes.

Kenna moved on to the Unified Command Post at Magnolia West High school . She looked at what the fire fighters needed, and she made calls and set it up.

Mattress Mac donated 150 beds. Two class rooms turned into barracks kept quiet and dark for rest.

The CEO of HEB donated 2 semi trailers full of supplies, and sent a mobile commercial kitchen at no charge to feed all the workers, but especially our firefighters, 3 hot meals a day.

David Riddle and Matt Hoffpauir, owners of the gourmet coffee fundraising company – Pips Coffee, set up coffee brewers and made hundreds of gallons of coffee for the fire fighters, displaced families and supporting volunteers.

An impromptu commissary was set up, anything the firefighters had requested available at no charge. As exhausted firefighters (most of them from local VFDs with no training or experience battling wildfires) and workers came into the school after long hours of hard labor, dehydrated, hungry, covered with soot and ash, they got what they needed. They were directed through the commissary, where they got soap, eye wash and nasal spray, candy, clean socks and underwear, and then were sent off to the school locker rooms for a shower. HEB then fed them a hot meal and they got 8 hours sleep in a barracks, then another hot meal, another pass through the commissary for supplies to carry with them out to lines, including gloves, safety glasses, dust masks and snacks, and back they went.

One of the imported crew from California came into Unified Command and asked where the FEMA Powerbars and water were. He was escorted to the commissary and started through the system. He was flabbergasted. He said FEMA never did it like this. Kenna replied, ”Well, this is the way we do it in Texas.”

Fire fighting equipment needed repair? The auto shop at the High School ran 24/7 with local mechanics volunteering, students, and the firefighters fixing the equipment. Down one side of the school, the water tankers lined up at the fire hydrants and filled with water. Down the other side there was a steady parade of gasoline tankers filling trucks, dozers, tankers, cans, chain saws, and vehicles.

Mind you, all of this was set up by 2 Moms, Kenna and Tara, with a staff of 20 simple volunteers, most of them women who had sons, daughters, husbands, and friends on the fire lines. Someone always knew someone who could get what they needed- beds, mechanics, food, space. Local people using local connections to mobilize local resources made this happen. No government aid. No Trained Expert.

At one point the fire was less than a mile from the school, and everyone but hose volunteers were evacuated. The fire was turned. The Red Cross came in, looked at what they were doing, and quietly went away to set up a fire victim relief center nearby. They said they couldn’t do it any better.

Then FEMA came in and told those volunteers and Kenna that they had to leave, FEMA was here now. Kenna told them she worked for the firefighters, not them. They were obnoxious, bossy, got in the way, and criticized everything. The volunteers refused to back down and kept doing their job, and doing it well. Next FEMA said the HEB supplies and kitchen had to go, that was blatant commercialism. Kenna said they stayed. They stayed. FEMA threw a wall eyed fit about chewing tobacco and cigarettes being available in the commissary area. Kenna told them the firefighters had requested it, and it was staying. It stayed. FEMA got very nasty and kept asking what organization these volunteers belonged to- and all the volunteers told them “Our community”.

FEMA didn’t like that and demanded they make up a name for themselves. One mother remarked “They got me at my boiling point!” and suddenly the group was “212 Degrees”. FEMA’s contribution?

They came in the next day with red shirts embroidered with “212 Degrees”, insisting the volunteers had to be identified, never realizing it was a slap in their face. Your tax dollars at work – labeling volunteers with useless shirts and getting in the way.

The upshot? A fire that the experts from California (for whom we are so grateful there are no words) said would take 2-3 weeks to get under control was 100% contained in 8 days. There was so much equipment and supplies donated, 3 container trucks are loaded with the excess to go and set up a similar relief center for the fire fighters in Bastrop.

The local relief agencies have asked people to stop bringing in donations of clothing, food, household items, and pretty much everything else because they only have 60 displaced households to care for, and there is enough to supply hundreds. Again, excess is going to be shipped to Bastrop , where there are 1500 displaced households. Wish we could send Kenna, too, but she has to go back to her regular job.And that’s the way we do it in Texas !!!
 
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A slight downward revision of # of people evacuated in Oregon: 500,000 down to 40,000. Didn't come in time to stop all of the national news fiction features about 10% of the state population having been evacuated.

Oregon wildfire evacuation figures revised
The MSM fear-mongering served it's purposeful distraction.

The truth always shows up later, but by then, the damage has been done and the MSM has moved on to the next "crisis."

RBG and SCOTUS.