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Sure, TPTB can confiscate all our guns tomorrow and put us all in camps......if they have that much power. But they don't.
Yet. In 25 years when the WASP is a minority faction in America, stand by. We'll see reparations, wealth taxation (seizure), land confiscation, relegation to a minority role in jobs, etc. Mark my words. There is a reason the left wants mass immigration - only to change the demographics of America and forever destroy it.
 

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https://www.profitableplantsdigest.com/growing-walnut-trees-for-profit/
Growing Walnut Trees For Profit
by craig wallin
walnut plantation
Walnut Plantation
During the week, Tom Jenkins is a financial advisor, helping others invest for their retirement. On weekends, Jenkins sometimes packs a sack lunch and pruning saw and visits what he calls his “Walnut IRA.” His 20 acres of black walnut trees, originally planted in a 12 foot by 12 foot grid and gradually thinned to a wider spacing as the trees grew, will be ready for harvesting about the time Tom plans to retire. With the high price of black walnut logs, he figures his walnut acreage will be enough to make him a millionaire. Better yet, his property taxes for the walnut stand are almost zero, thanks to a special property tax rate to encourage timber production.

According to timber experts, black walnut trees, when planted to maximize tree growth, can grow as much as 3′ to 4′ per year in good soil, reaching a mature height of over 100′ and 30″ to 40″ in diameter, with 16″ diameter saw logs ready to harvest in 30 years.

Black walnut trees are native to the central and eastern U.S, but also do well in other parts of the country, and are grown for both nuts and timber. A walnut orchard can take a few years to come into full production, but then produces up to 6,000 pounds of nuts per acre. Black walnut logs bring premium prices, and have since the 1700s, with single trees bringing up to $20,000. Bruce Thompson, author of “Black Walnut For Profit,” estimates a mature stand of black walnut trees can bring about $100,000 per acre in timber value alone. The fine, straight-grained wood is used for furniture, veneer and gunstocks.

To bring in income while the walnut trees are growing, many new plantings are using “agroforestry,” which uses double cropping of trees with pasture crops for harvesting or livestock grazing. Trees are planted in widely spaced rows, at about 100 trees per acre, with other crops between the rows. In addition to pasture crops, high-value crops like raspberries or blueberries can be used.

Agroforestry can provide income four different ways. For the first few years, the only income is from the crop planted between the trees. As the trees become larger, they are thinned for nut production, with the wood from thinning being sold. Then, the nuts produce additional income. When the remaining thinned trees are mature, they are harvested for veneer logs.

The thinning encourages rapid growth of the best trees and removes less than perfect trees. The culled trees bring premium prices, even in small sizes. Culls are cut into 3 foot lengths and dried for gunstock blanks, which can bring as much as $300 each. To utilize even smaller sections of cull walnut logs such as limbs, manufacturers are using them for items like pen holders, paperweights and bookends. For these uses, rough knotty wood is just as good as the high grade logs.

For those with time and patience, a living legacy of walnut trees can be a priceless gift for children and grandchildren. According to professional timberland investors, the average return from a stand of walnut trees is 14 percent a year, with no taxes due until harvest. That beats returns on bonds, stocks and most other investments handily, and with intercropping, growers can even produce an income while the walnut trees continue to grow.
 

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Yet. In 25 years when the WASP is a minority faction in America, stand by. We'll see reparations, wealth taxation (seizure), land confiscation, relegation to a minority role in jobs, etc. Mark my words. There is a reason the left wants mass immigration - only to change the demographics of America and forever destroy it.
I don't think it will take that long. Most of the White population is baby boomers and they are dying off right now. When they are gone, White people are finished and the banking elite will complete their takeover.
 

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I think you are more right than not. We 50-ish year old white folk are screwed.
The "official" age of baby boomers is people born between 1946 and 1964, but the boom was tapering off around 1960. Where I live, the majority of the population is White baby boomers and most are over 60. It makes me wonder about property resale. If most of the buyers of places like mine are baby boomers, what will it be worth as more of them die off?
 

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The "official" age of baby boomers is people born between 1946 and 1964, but the boom was tapering off around 1960. Where I live, the majority of the population is White baby boomers and most are over 60. It makes me wonder about property resale. If most of the buyers of places like mine are baby boomers, what will it be worth as more of them die off?
Values are changing for lots of things as we boomers die off. Ford Model A and T cars, 20 years ago you could get $15,000 for a nice one, today $6000 is about tops. Glass collectibles, now we call them dead peoples collectibles and worth pennies on the dollar. Victorian furniture, used to bring big bucks, now it's almost firewood.
 

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Values are changing for lots of things as we boomers die off. Ford Model A and T cars, 20 years ago you could get $15,000 for a nice one, today $6000 is about tops. Glass collectibles, now we call them dead peoples collectibles and worth pennies on the dollar. Victorian furniture, used to bring big bucks, now it's almost firewood.
VERY good point. Collectibles matter most to those who really wanted one when they were younger (or are nostalgic about having one way back when). When that generation dies off the next generation doesn't have any emotional attachment to them, and they become commodities. These items have "extrinsic" value -- value because of something outside of what they actually are.

Therefore, the best tangibles are those with "intrinsic" value -- valuable because of what they actually are (and how they can be used). Technology dependent tangibles are ephemeral -- they have a shelf life. Firearms are actually technological. As technology advances they become less valuable for intrinsic qualities and perhaps more valuable for extrinsic qualities (nostalgia). Eventually they become obsolete and have little value.

Frankly, I can't think of any tangible with more intrinsic value than ag land. People need to eat, and the amount of people eating off one acre is increasing every year.
 
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Yet. In 25 years when the WASP is a minority faction in America, stand by. We'll see reparations, wealth taxation (seizure), land confiscation, relegation to a minority role in jobs, etc. Mark my words. There is a reason the left wants mass immigration - only to change the demographics of America and forever destroy it.
I'm wondering - What do the Democrats have to gain by destroying America? I mean, they live here too and reap the benefits of freedom and the Republic so I'm lost to the idea that they want in gone. Maybe someone can enlighten me?
 

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I'm wondering - What do the Democrats have to gain by destroying America? I mean, they live here too and reap the benefits of freedom and the Republic so I'm lost to the idea that they want in gone. Maybe someone can enlighten me?
It's easier to understand if you look at what else besides ideology they have in common. It's really an ethnic war. The stakes? World conquest.
 

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VERY good point. Collectibles matter most to those who really wanted one when they were younger (or are nostalgic about having one way back when). When that generation dies off the next generation doesn't have any emotional attachment to them, and they become commodities. These items have "extrinsic" value -- value because of something outside of what they actually are.

Therefore, the best tangibles are those with "intrinsic" value -- valuable because of what they actually are (and how they can be used). Technology dependent tangibles are ephemeral -- they have a shelf life. Firearms are actually technological. As technology advances they become less valuable for intrinsic qualities and perhaps more valuable for extrinsic qualities (nostalgia). Eventually they become obsolete and have little value.

Frankly, I can't think of any tangible with more intrinsic value than ag land. People need to eat, and the amount of people eating off one acre is increasing every year.
I better get to Wally world and clear their shelves so my grand kids can cash in. Then again, that's why I save all those 40 and 90% coins.
 

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VERY good point. Collectibles matter most to those who really wanted one when they were younger (or are nostalgic about having one way back when). When that generation dies off the next generation doesn't have any emotional attachment to them, and they become commodities. These items have "extrinsic" value -- value because of something outside of what they actually are.

Therefore, the best tangibles are those with "intrinsic" value -- valuable because of what they actually are (and how they can be used). Technology dependent tangibles are ephemeral -- they have a shelf life. Firearms are actually technological. As technology advances they become less valuable for intrinsic qualities and perhaps more valuable for extrinsic qualities (nostalgia). Eventually they become obsolete and have little value.

Frankly, I can't think of any tangible with more intrinsic value than ag land. People need to eat, and the amount of people eating off one acre is increasing every year.
Not trying to be a Debbie Downer as ol' Artimus would say but even then, that too can be confiscated for the greater good.
 

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I'm wondering - What do the Democrats have to gain by destroying America? I mean, they live here too and reap the benefits of freedom and the Republic so I'm lost to the idea that they want in gone. Maybe someone can enlighten me?
Democrats are fools that actually believe that they will ALL be in the controlling class of this country if socialism takes over. If the idiots would look at history, they'd know how tiny a percentage of a leftist population really benefits from that ideology.

But, of course, this time it's different. Where have I heard that one before??
 

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Democrats are fools that actually believe that they will ALL be in the controlling class of this country if socialism takes over. If the idiots would look at history, they'd know how tiny a percentage of a leftist population really benefits from that ideology.

But, of course, this time it's different. Where have I heard that one before??
As Vladimir Lenin would say "they are useful idiots".
 

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It's easier to understand if you look at what else besides ideology they have in common. It's really an ethnic war. The stakes? World conquest.

Yep. A homogenous and strong America rooted in common values was practically invincible. Now we're so fractured, divided and a growing portion of our population are literally asking to undermine the very document that allowed the best nation on earth to be created.


This was a plan a long time in the making...and I think we've already lost.
 

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Water filters, quick clot, tools.

SLV and mntman bring up a good point, collectables are losing value. I've slowly been selling of my coin collection, I think between future fakes getting better and boomers dying off the market for lower end coins will shrink drastically. I'm 31 and I don't know anyone my age that is into the hobby.
 

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I'm wondering - What do the Democrats have to gain by destroying America? I mean, they live here too and reap the benefits of freedom and the Republic so I'm lost to the idea that they want in gone. Maybe someone can enlighten me?
It's not the "Democrats"; it's the socialists/marxists/communists who want America undermined and destroyed in order to bring about their world "revolution". Global government - "equality" for all, power for the few. Someone wrote a book about this...1984. It's coming. The pieces are already in place.
 

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Water filters, quick clot, tools.

SLV and mntman bring up a good point, collectables are losing value. I've slowly been selling of my coin collection, I think between future fakes getting better and boomers dying off the market for lower end coins will shrink drastically. I'm 31 and I don't know anyone my age that is into the hobby.
You're smarter than your friends
 

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It's not the "Democrats"; it's the socialists/marxists/communists who want America undermined and destroyed in order to bring about their world "revolution". Global government - "equality" for all, power for the few. Someone wrote a book about this...1984. It's coming. The pieces are already in place.
Pretty much nailed it. Stocking up on ammo isn't so you'll have plenty for the range...there's going to be a much more compelling reason to be well armed and well stocked and you just hit the nail on the head as to what it is.
 

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Brass. As in bullets. Or maybe even easier to stockpile are empty casings, lead heads, primers & powder. Have to be a little careful with the powder & primers though. Individually, they are easy to transport & store. As an assembled part maybe less so & may attract more attention in that form.