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Pawn Stars’ Rick Harrison on why it’s so hard to find silver right now

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The Harrisons were pawnbrokers before they were ever on TV. I've been to Vegas. I've seen their shop.
TV has a habit of dramatizing and I hear the producers created a look alike shop for the show to be shot in to not interfere with the family's business.
Me too, it's really just a little hole in the wall when you actually walk around in it. Very underwhelming (to me anyway)
 

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True, he is in a reality show and what is shown on the entertainment channels is all scripted. However, that doesn't take away from the fact that pawn shops are one place you can always go to buy or sell gold & silver items. Not saying you get a good price but pawn shops all across America provide a quick and liquid option for those who are desperate and want quick cash.

That said, I would never sell any precious metals (if I ever had any) to a pawn shop. I would seek other options.

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"ripping off" a person would require force of some kind. The people that sell to a pawn shop do so willingly. I buy and sell regularly. I have been accused of ripping people off because I pay pennies on the dollar. I have never stolen, I always negotiate a price and pay in cash. I do not tell you what your stuff is worth, it's the sellers job to research the value of what they want to sell.
I' ve used pawn shops to sell during a financial emergency. They are my last choice for liquidation though.

And Rick closes with "if it doesn't feel right be willing to walk away".
 

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Most people today live hand to mouth. Any extra cash is a fantasy.
...or it goes toward tattoos. Can't count the amount of people on welfare who get free eye care, complain about having to pay for upgrades.." why won't the state pay for transitions or antiglare coatings or $300 Michael Coors frames"...they complain about having no money but comment about their upcoming color fill for the tats in their private regions!
 

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Half the time his eyes are rolled back into his head while he's talking. I wonder what he's on?
That is just a human quirk. I worked with a senior employee that could not look at you when talking to you. She always seemed to be checking out the ceiling for something. There were times I thought I'd jump up to look her in the eyes but didn't.
An exec I worked with during Labor Negotiations would get deep in thought and her eyes lids would flutter excessively in her extemporary speaking. Which a minute or two in I had to look down to keep from busting out laughing.
She was my lie detector when she was towing the BOP line when she herself knew the proposal was out of the bounds of a labor contract, and the Bureau was trying to get away with something.
aka "Tells".
Back to the original topic.
 

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That is just a human quirk. I worked with a senior employee that could not look at you when talking to you. She always seemed to be checking out the ceiling for something.
I have done that when thinking about something that needed deep thought. It was to avoid any possible distraction, removing as much as possible from my vision so I could think more clearly.
 

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Me too, it's really just a little hole in the wall when you actually walk around in it. Very underwhelming (to me anyway)
That's interesting. I was through Vegas a month ago (business, not to party) and wanted a look at the Strip. So many years ago, I spent many weekends drunkenly wandering from casino to casino, away from NAS North Island for a few days.

I was shocked at the decomposition of the road and general area. And yes, Harrison's store - marked with signs, "AS SEEN ON TV" was underwhelming. I don't think the neighborhood was that far gone, 30 years ago...It's the general dissipation of the West and its cities, I think.

Nope, I didn't go in. I'm sure it's far more entertaining when on the screen. To me, a visit to a shop or business, any business, is purpose-based. I didn't have time to loiter and didn't have money to blow on expensive knicknacks.
 

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The Harrisons were pawnbrokers before they were ever on TV. I've been to Vegas. I've seen their shop.
TV has a habit of dramatizing and I hear the producers created a look alike shop for the show to be shot in to not interfere with the family's business.
Understood. You forgot to mention that the producers loooove conflict and controversy. For a 40 minute episode they probably shoot 20 hours of film, so they would have to have an alternate location. And any suggestion that any of the scenes are of actual random interactions with customers is pure fantasy. It's impossible with cameras in your face. Everything gets shot at least twice- usually more- to get shots from the front and back- coming and going- so that the other camera crew doesn't show up in the final cut. I know because I was one of the principals in Heavy Haulers, a 'reality' show that shot 5 episodes and ran 4 on TLC/History/National Geographic channels before the show got cut.

It was a fascinating experience. My big takeaway from the filming (other than the fakery) is that when you have a couple of cameramen all dressed in black following you around, bystanders and anyone around you will give you anything you want- anything. And that shit can go to your head in a hurry.
 

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That's interesting. I was through Vegas a month ago (business, not to party) and wanted a look at the Strip. So many years ago, I spent many weekends drunkenly wandering from casino to casino, away from NAS North Island for a few days.

I was shocked at the decomposition of the road and general area. And yes, Harrison's store - marked with signs, "AS SEEN ON TV" was underwhelming. I don't think the neighborhood was that far gone, 30 years ago...It's the general dissipation of the West and its cities, I think.

Nope, I didn't go in. I'm sure it's far more entertaining when on the screen. To me, a visit to a shop or business, any business, is purpose-based. I didn't have time to loiter and didn't have money to blow on expensive knicknacks.
The last time I was there it was obvious to me most tax money seems to get spent of the strip and its expansion and little spent on Downtown area.
 

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Not really hard finding silver, just have to pay the markup...
Very little markup on 1000 t.oz blocks. 100 ozer and below, bars & coins get hit with the premiums.
 
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"Preality" television.

Yup, I'd heard that before. It makes sense, when you think about it...things don't just happen the way producers want.

And of course, the conflict. Let's face it...life, is boring. Conflict is what absorbs people, especially the kind that like staring into that little Peephole Into Paradise.

It's the structure of drama. Man-Versus-Man, Man-Versus-Nature...occasionally Man-Versus-Himself. So the stuff has to often be staged. I'm sure most times, even the hot drama is pretty trite...Chumlee's in jail again, I have to go bail him out. Look, Olivia has photos on that website where she was doing porn, and the producers can't have that. She's out of the script, and back to being a regular counter girl. Here we have a Confederate $5 note...which is printed on regular dyed printer-paper. Show the dirtbag OUT.

I remember a lot of the footage was shown in what was almost certainly their main floor, with foot traffic...but the trite preality drama, backstage, would more-easily be set up in a different location, surely.
 

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The last time I was there it was obvious to me most tax money seems to get spent of the strip and its expansion and little spent on Downtown area.
Even the Strip was looking rough.

But, yeah...the revitalization of downtown, is now no longer a "thing." I wasn't there long enough to take a measure, but if the LA homeless situation is spreading...plus, of course, the traditional problems they had there, of street crime...well, they'd want to focus on what they have. That means the newer, glitzier development on the Strip.
 

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Understood. You forgot to mention that the producers loooove conflict and controversy. For a 40 minute episode they probably shoot 20 hours of film, so they would have to have an alternate location. And any suggestion that any of the scenes are of actual random interactions with customers is pure fantasy. It's impossible with cameras in your face. Everything gets shot at least twice- usually more- to get shots from the front and back- coming and going- so that the other camera crew doesn't show up in the final cut. I know because I was one of the principals in Heavy Haulers, a 'reality' show that shot 5 episodes and ran 4 on TLC/History/National Geographic channels before the show got cut.

It was a fascinating experience. My big takeaway from the filming (other than the fakery) is that when you have a couple of cameramen all dressed in black following you around, bystanders and anyone around you will give you anything you want- anything. And that shit can go to your head in a hurry.
I liked the show where the Repo men specialized is semi trailers & truck recoveries. Was that the show you were on ?
 

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People seem to forget the spot price is for the delivery bars, anythime you buy close to it thats a real gift, theres an enormous cost involved in the transportation and fabricating ect of smaller bars and rounds

Very little markup on 1000 t.oz blocks. 100 ozer and blow, bars & coins get hit with the premiums.
 

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I liked the show where the Repo men specialized is semi trailers & truck recoveries. Was that the show you were on ?
No. It was called Heavy Haulers. We moved big structures. I say 'we' but I was recruited because I had some experience with the process, and was a friend and partner of the moving company owner in another enterprise. I was the 'foreman' on the show but yeah, even that was BS. It's been 13 years or so but they still run the show occasionally at odd hours.
 

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this is weird:
google 'origins of pawn shops'

first page:
More than 3,000 years ago, pawn shops first emerged in Ancient China as a method of granting short-term credit to peasants

next entry, open the v:
'How did pawn shops originate?
Pawn shop banking originated under the name of Lombard banking, and many European towns called the pawn shop the "Lombard". The three golden balls were originally the symbol medieval Lombard merchants hung up in front of their houses.'


soooo.....

if I were a student of History, which Truth would I use if I had a paper due on Monday, put it off till the last minute, and instead, I got drunk and spent the night at a neighbors on Sunday night?

:don't know:


A or F, in two lazy, hazy, seconds...


EDIT TO add:
like Obama and his henchmen did to the internet some years ago, added his name, connected his past with others from our history, others who suddenly became important if only to add to the allure of the Obama himself...

this time it's China...
 

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funny you should mention that...my granddaughter is like that. I just had a talk with her about not holding people hostage when she is trying to tell them about something. I told her she is losing her audience.... GET TO THE POINT!!!

Remind her we (YOU) dont work for her. Spit it out........we have stuff to do. I dont think comments like that are rude or underhanded, when you ate mentoring a child. I do no communicate with my wife in that manner, im not (mostly) a cretin, but sometimes ill help her get on down the word trail. if she gets all alabama-eeeeeee, ill start completing her sentences and she will speed up. To tell the truth I think shes in love with herself, and likes the sound of her voice.

I will admit, when im doing business stuff, and such, I close my eyes sometimes when I get started on a rant,or negotiation, but its to concentrate on articulating my thoughts in a concise manner, and it all comes out in a timely fashion. It is something I do for myself, for better self presentation and personal image, never had any complaints I cant GET TO THE FUCKING POINT.
 

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"Preality" television.

Yup, I'd heard that before. It makes sense, when you think about it...things don't just happen the way producers want.

And of course, the conflict. Let's face it...life, is boring. Conflict is what absorbs people, especially the kind that like staring into that little Peephole Into Paradise.

It's the structure of drama. Man-Versus-Man, Man-Versus-Nature...occasionally Man-Versus-Himself. So the stuff has to often be staged. I'm sure most times, even the hot drama is pretty trite...Chumlee's in jail again, I have to go bail him out. Look, Olivia has photos on that website where she was doing porn, and the producers can't have that. She's out of the script, and back to being a regular counter girl. Here we have a Confederate $5 note...which is printed on regular dyed printer-paper. Show the dirtbag OUT.

I remember a lot of the footage was shown in what was almost certainly their main floor, with foot traffic...but the trite preality drama, backstage, would more-easily be set up in a different location, surely.
When the show first started I think much of the interaction was filmed on the floor too. When producers realized they had a hit on their hands that is when they sat up the pseudo-shop for more dramatic encounters and Celebrity guests. I've quit watching since the Old Man died, but the show still goes on.
 

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i got sucked into those 'limited edition' Old Man silver rounds...$40 - $60, i don't recall...limited to only a few thousand

what they didn't say: On The First Production Run

they subsequently saturated the market and there was zero value except to the zealots...and they already had theirs


i don't like dishonest.......

fkn salesmen...

anyways, it is what it is, i subsequently sold them for bullion value, just to leave the 'bad taste' in my mouth to remind me to never do that again, direct us mint purchases were next to go...
 

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i got sucked into those 'limited edition' Old Man silver rounds...$40 - $60, i don't recall...limited to only a few thousand

what they didn't say: On The First Production Run

they subsequently saturated the market and there was zero value except to the zealots...and they already had theirs


i don't like dishonest.......

fkn salesmen...

anyways, it is what it is, i subsequently sold them for bullion value, just to leave the 'bad taste' in my mouth to remind me to never do that again, direct us mint purchases were next to go...
Happens to the best/all of us. I should have known better but back a few years ago I thought I would put together a set of the Perth Mint lunar year sets for the grandchildren. The dragon fiasco taught me a lot namely "you know better than to get suckered like this" but i went ahead as I was making them the sets. Anything over melt should be for something you really have a certain desire for. I pay the premiums now because I have to on the rolls I buy each of them during the holidays but only to the extent of Eagles, britannias etc. Absolutely no limited edition stuff.
By the way it was not that long ago gold eagles could be bought at or below melt with Ebay bucks. I posted this before all purchased a couple or so years ago at around $700.00 each. Add in the 5.98 kick ass holder and I got a great set or two.
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drooooooooollllllllll


:2 thumbs up:
 

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Pawn Brokers, at one time, were the First Choice for loans...the first bankers
These days, pawn brokers are regulated even tighter than banks. TPTB are trying to register and track everything, especially metals and guns.
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Understood. You forgot to mention that the producers loooove conflict and controversy. For a 40 minute episode they probably shoot 20 hours of film, so they would have to have an alternate location. And any suggestion that any of the scenes are of actual random interactions with customers is pure fantasy. It's impossible with cameras in your face. Everything gets shot at least twice- usually more- to get shots from the front and back- coming and going- so that the other camera crew doesn't show up in the final cut. I know because I was one of the principals in Heavy Haulers, a 'reality' show that shot 5 episodes and ran 4 on TLC/History/National Geographic channels before the show got cut.

It was a fascinating experience. My big takeaway from the filming (other than the fakery) is that when you have a couple of cameramen all dressed in black following you around, bystanders and anyone around you will give you anything you want- anything. And that shit can go to your head in a hurry.
Very cool man! <place virtual pat on the back here>
 

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Happens to the best/all of us. I should have known better but back a few years ago I thought I would put together a set of the Perth Mint lunar year sets for the grandchildren. The dragon fiasco taught me a lot namely "you know better than to get suckered like this" but i went ahead as I was making them the sets. Anything over melt should be for something you really have a certain desire for. I pay the premiums now because I have to on the rolls I buy each of them during the holidays but only to the extent of Eagles, britannias etc. Absolutely no limited edition stuff.
By the way it was not that long ago gold eagles could be bought at or below melt with Ebay bucks. I posted this before all purchased a couple or so years ago at around $700.00 each. Add in the 5.98 kick ass holder and I got a great set or two.View attachment 216643
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These days, pawn brokers are regulated even tighter than banks. TPTB are trying to register and track everything, especially metals and guns.
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Regulated by whom exactly?
 

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It seems to me somewhere along the line I heard the old man say something to the effect "we don't sell silver here; we buy it." Maybe I'm just imagining that but because of my memory I thought the guy might be quite a silver stacker.
I know that back in the day I had an uncle that owned one of those neighborhood corner grocery stores. Occasionally someone would spend a silver dollar to where he would take one in about every other day. He would put them in those big jars he sold individual pickles out of and had quite a stash buying at face value. Often my uncles and a few of their friends, all WW2 vets, were incensed at the time regarding the new "clad" currency, the new Immigration Act, and anything Kennedy/LBJ. There were a lot of bumper stickers that went Im4AuH2O2 meaning Im for Goldwater too. Johnson portrayed Goldwater as a war monger with the ad below. Interestingly enough though it was Johnson via his Gulf of Tonkin false flag turned the Vietnam issue into a full blown killing machine.
I am way out on a tangent here but just thinking people like the "oldman" and other old timers, like myself, have been in this stacking thing for a long time recognizing how the political forces have seriously changed the direction and makeup of this country. What a shame the old timers who were laughed at were actually right but on election day, not enough listened.
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I'm saying the guys are a might sleazy, plain and simple.
 

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Remind her we (YOU) dont work for her. Spit it out........we have stuff to do. I dont think comments like that are rude or underhanded, when you ate mentoring a child. I do no communicate with my wife in that manner, im not (mostly) a cretin, but sometimes ill help her get on down the word trail. if she gets all alabama-eeeeeee, ill start completing her sentences and she will speed up. To tell the truth I think shes in love with herself, and likes the sound of her voice.

I will admit, when im doing business stuff, and such, I close my eyes sometimes when I get started on a rant,or negotiation, but its to concentrate on articulating my thoughts in a concise manner, and it all comes out in a timely fashion. It is something I do for myself, for better self presentation and personal image, never had any complaints I cant GET TO THE FUCKING POINT

I'm saying the guys are a might sleazy, plain and simple.
the old man and Chumley always seemed sort of creepy to me.
 

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the old man and Chumley always seemed sort of creepy to me.
Old Man retired out of the Navy. There is long term issues.
Chumlee - probably dropped on his head as a baby or repeated falls down the stairs, and he like "herb". Take You Pick.
 

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the old man and Chumley always seemed sort of creepy to me.
I read Harrison's book, "License to Pawn" - back then, about ten years ago, I was living in a rented cottage in Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin, and "enjoying" regular hours, rare for a railroader (12-hour days, six days a week, yippee!). I had binge-watched a number of episodes that season, and saw that the Kindle edition of his book was cheap. Sure, why not? He seems like an interesting guy.

He spoke of his father, in a way...respectful, and loving (and the old man was alive, then, too) but definitely there was some creepy tendencies going on. Harrison's mother was a real-estate broker in Los Angeles when he was in school; but that didn't last. I don't know if the Old Man was still in the Navy at the time, but with a recession, they were both out of work, and went to Vegas in desperation.

Couldn't get a pawnbroker's license; so the Old Man opened a used furniture shop. A more humble beginning I couldn't imagine.

I guess Metro Las Vegas licenses pawn shops, and like all licensing or Closed-Shop or trade-guild laws, they exist to protect those who give money to those who make laws. There was some loophole, and a rush to get a vacated license, and 17-year-old Rick camped out at the government office to be first in line to get that vacated permit. I'm quoting from memory - read it a long time ago.

But yeah, the Old Man came across as a creepazoid. More so when Rick wrote of the prepping for the sale of the reality-show concept. The Old Man was not only opposed, he mocked Rick, loudly, long, and repeatedly for even thinking about it.

Mocked him right up until it went on the air. Continued to gripe...until the first big payments came in.

Chumlee...Harrison left him alone; but the way he referred to Austin (his real name) implied that Rick thinks he's borderline retarded, maybe a savant with video games and comics. That's probably a fair appraisal. He's a family friend...a charity case; one of the few people who had it harder than the Harrison family earlier.
 

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I also read that he is an epileptic and that it really affected him when he was a kid.
 

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Half the time his eyes are rolled back into his head while he's talking. I wonder what he's on?

That being said, I must admit the guy has accumulated more wealth than I ever have so I tip my hat to the man
The majority of his wealth is from being an actor for years on show pawn stars. That fuckers shop doesnt do that well.
 

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The majority of his wealth is from being an actor for years on show pawn stars. That fuckers shop doesnt do that well.
acting is his real passion, that pawn shop is just his 'side hack'

i read that somewhere, bathroom wall i think...
 

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I read Harrison's book, "License to Pawn" - back then, about ten years ago, I was living in a rented cottage in Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin, and "enjoying" regular hours, rare for a railroader (12-hour days, six days a week, yippee!). I had binge-watched a number of episodes that season, and saw that the Kindle edition of his book was cheap. Sure, why not? He seems like an interesting guy.

He spoke of his father, in a way...respectful, and loving (and the old man was alive, then, too) but definitely there was some creepy tendencies going on. Harrison's mother was a real-estate broker in Los Angeles when he was in school; but that didn't last. I don't know if the Old Man was still in the Navy at the time, but with a recession, they were both out of work, and went to Vegas in desperation.

Couldn't get a pawnbroker's license; so the Old Man opened a used furniture shop. A more humble beginning I couldn't imagine.

I guess Metro Las Vegas licenses pawn shops, and like all licensing or Closed-Shop or trade-guild laws, they exist to protect those who give money to those who make laws. There was some loophole, and a rush to get a vacated license, and 17-year-old Rick camped out at the government office to be first in line to get that vacated permit. I'm quoting from memory - read it a long time ago.

But yeah, the Old Man came across as a creepazoid. More so when Rick wrote of the prepping for the sale of the reality-show concept. The Old Man was not only opposed, he mocked Rick, loudly, long, and repeatedly for even thinking about it.

Mocked him right up until it went on the air. Continued to gripe...until the first big payments came in.

Chumlee...Harrison left him alone; but the way he referred to Austin (his real name) implied that Rick thinks he's borderline retarded, maybe a savant with video games and comics. That's probably a fair appraisal. He's a family friend...a charity case; one of the few people who had it harder than the Harrison family earlier.
Interesting. Yeah the old man was very critical. I was wondering about that. So that's how they ended up with Chumlee. LOL