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President Trump to Address Nation Tuesday Night On Border Crisis

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You know....I'm getting a bit tired of the media's act. I mean really....is it common to have someone attend a business meeting and bringing a bowl of candy or a box of Munchkins for the other meeting attendees? It is in my business! This negative nanny shit about taking the least of things in life and blowing them all out of proportion in order to make the POTUS look like an idiot!

That is NOT journalism! That IS communistic propaganda mongering! The media in this country is a joke!
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Nice try, but Executive Orders don't override the Constitution.

Providing national defense is one of the few legitimately delegated Constitutional powers of the Feds.
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Nice try, but that never made a difference before. What makes you think it suddenly would?
 

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According to CBP figures...

The number of illegal border crossings has been steadily declining for the last 10 years.
The number of unauthorized immigrants in the US and in the US workforce has also steadily declined since 2007 (an estimated 4.8% of the workforce in 2016).
The number of people aprehended or turned away at the border has been in decline since 2005.

Oh yeah... Sounds like a real crisis, doesn't it.

But don't let pesky facts get in the way of emotion. Just wish carefully.

A country that walls itself off often becomes the kind of place you want to leave rather than move into.

It usually takes imperial or dictatorial power to pull off such a thing. Huge amounts of wealth must be confiscated. Resistance must be dealt with and overcome. In the process, any government must become even more powerful than it already was.

China and the communist block also demonized foreigners and used the fear of being invaded as an excuse to build walls that, in fact, soon became prisons for their own people. Cuba didn't have to build a wall, but did the exact same thing by demonizing the US and restricting trade and travel.

Predictably, they all became prisons that their own citizens couldn't wait to escape.
 

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IMO, north hasn't thought out his solution very well

the one thing he did mention that we have stated is put out guys on the border,
bring them home, and they become that wall
I agree, there are much better combinations of technology and manpower to address these problems, the idea of having mini drones buzzing all around the border sounds kind of nutty as the main technological surveillance.

Another article from North along the same lines of strategy: https://www.garynorth.com/public/17879.cfm
 

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Almost nobody knows this (I sure didn't) that the US is already under 30 existing "declared emergencies."
Really? You've never seen Senate Report 93-549?

News Flash! You've lived your whole life under emergency rule. You don't remember being taught that in American History class? Must've slept that day?

"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, (btw, this was written in 1973) freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought into force by states of national emergency. The problem of how a constitutional democracy reacts to great crises, however, far antedates the Great Depression. As a philosophical issue, its origins reach back to the Greek city-states and the Roman Republic. And, in the United States, actions taken by the Government in times of great crises have-from, at least, the Civil War-in important ways, shaped the present phenomenon of a permanent state of national emergency."

Declare an emergency, take extra-Constitutional actions in order to deal with the emergency, and then let it go on long enough that it simply becomes the new "normal" way for the gov to operate.

Bottom line is, no one alive today has clue one about what a gov would even look like that operates wholly within the bounds of the original intent of the Constitution. All they know is how it works under emergency rule and they think it's all normal.



Nice try, but that never made a difference before.
Executive Orders do not violate the Constitution as interpreted by the SC

All EO's do is to tell Executive Agencies how to do their jobs and they are also used to exercise authority over things that Congress has previously delegated to the Executive.

A good example is FDR using EO's to close the banks and ordering gold to be turned in. He couldn't do so until Congress gave him the authority to do so. Had he tried without that authority, it would have been deemed un-Constitutional.

If you want to blame someone for what you see as out of control Presidential EO's, blame Congress.
 

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Really? You've never seen Senate Report 93-549?

News Flash! You've lived your whole life under emergency rule. You don't remember being taught that in American History class? Must've slept that day?
Breathe, Joe ... breathe ... geez . lighten up. someone didn't know something that you did ... it goes without saying that he's never seen Senate Report 93-549. Neither have I
 

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I said "almost nobody," Joe.

Good for you for being part of the "almost" group.
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Almost nobody knows this (I sure didn't) that the US is already under 30 existing "declared emergencies."
I said "almost nobody," Joe.

Good for you for being part of the "almost" group.
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I'm glad I can be a part of something ... at least once in a while for short periods of time ...
 

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Really? You've never seen Senate Report 93-549?

News Flash! You've lived your whole life under emergency rule. You don't remember being taught that in American History class? Must've slept that day?

"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, (btw, this was written in 1973) freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought into force by states of national emergency. The problem of how a constitutional democracy reacts to great crises, however, far antedates the Great Depression. As a philosophical issue, its origins reach back to the Greek city-states and the Roman Republic. And, in the United States, actions taken by the Government in times of great crises have-from, at least, the Civil War-in important ways, shaped the present phenomenon of a permanent state of national emergency."

Declare an emergency, take extra-Constitutional actions in order to deal with the emergency, and then let it go on long enough that it simply becomes the new "normal" way for the gov to operate.

Bottom line is, no one alive today has clue one about what a gov would even look like that operates wholly within the bounds of the original intent of the Constitution. All they know is how it works under emergency rule and they think it's all normal.



Executive Orders do not violate the Constitution as interpreted by the SC

All EO's do is to tell Executive Agencies how to do their jobs and they are also used to exercise authority over things that Congress has previously delegated to the Executive.

A good example is FDR using EO's to close the banks and ordering gold to be turned in. He couldn't do so until Congress gave him the authority to do so. Had he tried without that authority, it would have been deemed un-Constitutional.

If you want to blame someone for what you see as out of control Presidential EO's, blame Congress.
Actually the Constitution delegates who has what p[owers and those powers not delegated by the constitution remains with the people. Nowhere in the constitution does it say that any powers given to any branch can be delegated away to another branch.
Congress has the power to coin money and determine the value thereof. They cant delegate that to the President or the fed. It doesn't stop them of course.
 

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Tucker Carlson Fox News

Tuesday night, the president made his case for why America needs a wall on our southern border. On the Democratic side, Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, delivered the party’s initial response. Their words were then echoed with mechanical precision by Democrats up and down the chain.

"President Trump must stop holding the American people hostage, must stop manufacturing a crisis," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said.

"This president just used the backdrop of the Oval Office to manufacture a crisis," Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said.

"I’ll state that this is a manufactured crisis that’s been manufactured by the Trump administration," said U.S. Rep. Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz.

"This is a manufactured crisis, Bill," DNC Chairman Tom Perez said on "America's Newsroom."

"What the president is doing is manufacturing a crisis," said U.S. Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va.

So, the Democrats have brought back "manufacturing."

One thing to know about our national media: if Democratic leaders are saying it, reporters are saying it, too. No matter what it is. If Nancy Pelosi called for invading Canada tomorrow, all the news anchors would be telling you how Ottawa is the real threat. They’re flunkies, humorless little functionaries doing their sad little jobs. They’re so dumb. They have no self-respect.


"So, the Democrats have brought back manufacturing."
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Tucker Carlson Fox News

Tuesday night, the president made his case for why America needs a wall on our southern border. On the Democratic side, Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, delivered the party’s initial response. Their words were then echoed with mechanical precision by Democrats up and down the chain.

"President Trump must stop holding the American people hostage, must stop manufacturing a crisis," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said.

"This president just used the backdrop of the Oval Office to manufacture a crisis," Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said.

"I’ll state that this is a manufactured crisis that’s been manufactured by the Trump administration," said U.S. Rep. Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz.

"This is a manufactured crisis, Bill," DNC Chairman Tom Perez said on "America's Newsroom."

"What the president is doing is manufacturing a crisis," said U.S. Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va.

So, the Democrats have brought back "manufacturing."

One thing to know about our national media: if Democratic leaders are saying it, reporters are saying it, too. No matter what it is. If Nancy Pelosi called for invading Canada tomorrow, all the news anchors would be telling you how Ottawa is the real threat. They’re flunkies, humorless little functionaries doing their sad little jobs. They’re so dumb. They have no self-respect.


"So, the Democrats have brought back manufacturing."
ayup
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They're not dumb, they're communist subversives and they must be dealt with sooner or later otherwise we'll turn into the next Soviet Union and all that we've worked so hard for will be taken from us.
 

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Sucks to be them. Maybe they should have worked harder and committed themselves more to learning a trade and building a career, or perhaps not buying that nice Escalade in the driveway which still has 5 years of payments left on it may have allowed them a little fiscal room to wait out the shutdown. Whatever it is they could of done, they didn't!

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Sucks to be them. Maybe they should have worked harder and committed themselves more to learning a trade and building a career, or perhaps not buying that nice Escalade in the driveway which still has 5 years of payments left on it may have allowed them a little fiscal room to wait out the shutdown. Whatever it is they could of done, they didn't!
This is not new ... there are many reports/articles out there from years ago that paint a dismal picture of our economy and the impact on middle class

Michael Snyder | Economic Collapse - December 24, 2015
58 Facts About The U.S. Economy From 2015 That Are Almost Too Crazy To Believe
This year the middle class continued to deteriorate

Michael Snyder | Economic Collapse - December 24, 2015


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The world didn’t completely fall apart in 2015, but it is undeniable that an immense amount of damage was done to the U.S. economy.
This year the middle class continued to deteriorate, more Americans than ever found themselves living in poverty, and the debt bubble that we are living in expanded to absolutely ridiculous proportions. Toward the end of the year, a new global financial crisis erupted, and it threatens to completely spiral out of control as we enter 2016. Over the past six months, I have been repeatedly stressing to my readers that so many of the exact same patterns that immediately preceded the financial crisis of 2008 are happening once again, and trillions of dollars of stock market wealth has already been wiped out globally. Some of the largest economies on the entire planet such as Brazil and Canada have already plunged into deep recessions, and just about every leading indicator that you can think of is screaming that the U.S. is heading into one. So don’t be fooled by all the happy talk coming from Barack Obama and the mainstream media. When you look at the cold, hard numbers, they tell a completely different story. The following are 58 facts about the U.S. economy from 2015 that are almost too crazy to believe…


#1 These days, most Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. At this point 62 percent of all Americans have less than 1,000 dollars in their savings accounts, and 21 percent of all Americans do not have a savings account at all.

#2 The lack of saving is especially dramatic when you look at Americans under the age of 55. Incredibly, fewer than 10 percent of all Millennials and only about 16 percent of those that belong to Generation X have 10,000 dollars or more saved up.
#3 It has been estimated that 43 percent of all American households spend more money than they make each month.
#4 For the first time ever, middle class Americans now make up a minority of the population. But back in 1971, 61 percent of all Americans lived in middle class households.
#5 According to the Pew Research Center, the median income of middle class households declined by 4 percent from 2000 to 2014.
#6 The Pew Research Center has also found that median wealth for middle class households dropped by an astounding 28 percent between 2001 and 2013.
#7 In 1970, the middle class took home approximately 62 percent of all income. Today, that number has plummeted to just 43 percent.
#8 There are still 900,000 fewer middle class jobs in America than there were when the last recession began, but our population has gotten significantly larger since that time.
#9 According to the Social Security Administration, 51 percent of all American workers make less than $30,000 a year.
#10 For the poorest 20 percent of all Americans, median household wealth declined from negative 905 dollars in 2000 to negative 6,029 dollars in 2011.
#11 A recent nationwide survey discovered that 48 percent of all U.S. adults under the age of 30 believe that “the American Dream is dead”.
#12 Since hitting a peak of 69.2 percent in 2004, the rate of homeownership in the United States has been steadily declining every single year.
#13 At this point, the U.S. only ranks 19th in the world when it comes to median wealth per adult.
#14 Traditionally, entrepreneurship has been one of the primary engines that has fueled the growth of the middle class in the United States, but today the level of entrepreneurship in this country is sitting at an all-time low.
#15 For each of the past six years, more businesses have closed in the United States than have opened. Prior to 2008, this had never happened before in all of U.S. history.
#16 If you can believe it, the 20 wealthiest people in this country now have more money than the poorest 152 million Americans combined.
#17 The top 0.1 percent of all American families have about as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent of all American families combined.
#18 If you have no debt and you also have ten dollars in your pocket, that gives you a greater net worth than about 25 percent of all Americans.
#19 The number of Americans that are living in concentrated areas of high povertyhas doubled since the year 2000.
#20 An astounding 48.8 percent of all 25-year-old Americans still live at home with their parents.
#21 According to the U.S. Census Bureau, 49 percent of all Americans now live in a home that receives money from the government each month, and nearly 47 million Americans are living in poverty right now.
#22 In 2007, about one out of every eight children in America was on food stamps. Today, that number is one out of every five.
#23 According to Kathryn J. Edin and H. Luke Shaefer, the authors of a new book entitled “$2.00 a Day: Living on Almost Nothing in America“, there are 1.5 million “ultrapoor” households in the United States that live on less than two dollars a day. That number has doubled since 1996.
#24 46 million Americans use food banks each year, and lines start forming at some U.S. food banks as early as 6:30 in the morning because people want to get something before the food supplies run out.
#25 The number of homeless children in the U.S. has increased by 60 percentover the past six years.
#26 According to Poverty USA, 1.6 million American children slept in a homeless shelter or some other form of emergency housing last year.
#27 Police in New York City have identified 80 separate homeless encampments in the city, and the homeless crisis there has gotten so bad that it is being described as an “epidemic”.
#28 If you can believe it, more than half of all students in our public schools are poor enough to qualify for school lunch subsidies.
#29 According to a Census Bureau report that was released a while back, 65 percent of all children in the U.S. are living in a home that receives some form of aid from the federal government.
#30 According to a report that was published by UNICEF, almost one-third of all children in this country “live in households with an income below 60 percent of the national median income”.
#31 When it comes to child poverty, the United States ranks 36th out of the 41 “wealthy nations” that UNICEF looked at.
#32 An astounding 45 percent of all African-American children in the United States live in areas of “concentrated poverty”.
#33 40.9 percent of all children in the United States that are being raised by a single parent are living in poverty.
#34 There are 7.9 million working age Americans that are “officially unemployed” right now and another 94.4 million working age Americans that are considered to be “not in the labor force”. When you add those two numbers together, you get a grand total of 102.3 million working age Americans that do not have a job right now.
#35 According to a recent Pew survey, approximately 70 percent of all Americans believe that “debt is a necessity in their lives”.
#36 53 percent of all Americans do not even have a minimum three-day supply of nonperishable food and water at home.
#37 According to John Williams of shadowstats.com, if the U.S. government was actually using honest numbers the unemployment rate in this nation would be 22.9 percent.
#38 Back in 1950, more than 80 percent of all men in the United States had jobs. Today, only about 65 percent of all men in the United States have jobs.
#39 The labor force participation rate for men has plunged to the lowest level ever recorded.
#40 Wholesale sales in the U.S. have fallen to the lowest level since the last recession.
#41 The inventory to sales ratio has risen to the highest level since the last recession. This means that there is a whole lot of unsold inventory that is just sitting around out there and not selling.
#42 The ISM manufacturing index has fallen for five months in a row.
#43 Orders for “core” durable goods have fallen for ten months in a row.
#44 Since March, the amount of stuff being shipped by truck, rail and air inside the United States has been falling every single month on a year over year basis.
#45 Wal-Mart is projecting that its earnings may fall by as much as 12 percentduring the next fiscal year.
#46 The Business Roundtable’s forecast for business investment in 2016 has dropped to the lowest level that we have seen since the last recession.
#47 Corporate debt defaults have risen to the highest level that we have seensince the last recession. This is a huge problem because corporate debt in the U.S. has approximately doubled since just before the last financial crisis.
#48 Holiday sales have gone negative for the first time since the last recession.
#49 The velocity of money in the United States has dropped to the lowest level ever recorded. Not even during the depths of the last recession was it ever this low.
#50 Barack Obama promised that his program would result in a decline in health insurance premiums by as much as $2,500 per family, but in reality average family premiums have increased by a total of $4,865 since 2008.
#51 Today, the average U.S. household that has at least one credit card has approximately $15,950 in credit card debt.
#52 The number of auto loans that exceed 72 months has hit at an all-time high of 29.5 percent.
#53 According to Dr. Housing Bubble, there have been “nearly 8 million homes lost to foreclosure since the homeownership rate peaked in 2004″.
#54 One very disturbing study found that approximately 41 percent of all working age Americans either currently have medical bill problems or are paying off medical debt. And collection agencies seek to collect unpaid medical bills from about 30 million of us each and every year.
#55 The total amount of student loan debt in the United States has risen to a whopping 1.2 trillion dollars. If you can believe it, that total has more than doubled over the past decade.
#56 Right now, there are approximately 40 million Americans that are paying off student loan debt. For many of them, they will keep making payments on this debt until they are senior citizens.
#57 When you do the math, the federal government is stealing more than 100 million dollars from future generations of Americans every single hour of every single day.
#58 An astounding 8.16 trillion dollars has already been added to the U.S. national debt while Barack Obama has been in the White House. That means that it is already guaranteed that we will add an average of more than a trillion dollars a year to the debt during his presidency, and we still have more than a year left to go.
What we have seen so far is just the very small tip of a very large iceberg. About six months ago, I stated that “our problems will only be just beginning as we enter 2016″, and I stand by that prediction.
We are in the midst of a long-term economic collapse that is beginning to accelerate once again. Our economic infrastructure has been gutted, our middle class is being destroyed, Wall Street has been transformed into the biggest casino in the history of the planet, and our reckless politicians have piled up the biggest mountain of debt the world has ever seen.
Anyone that believes that everything is “perfectly fine” and that we are going to come out of this “stronger than ever” is just being delusional. This generation was handed the keys to the finest economic machine of all time, and we wrecked it. Decades of incredibly foolish decisions have culminated in a crisis that is now reaching a crescendo, and this nation is in for a shaking unlike anything that it has ever seen before.
So enjoy the rest of 2015 while you still can.
2016 is almost here, and it is going to be quite a year…

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Nowhere in the constitution does it say that any powers given to any branch can be delegated away to another branch.
Does it say they can't delegate authority?


Actually the Constitution delegates who has what p[owers and those powers not delegated by the constitution remains with the people.
Yea, the 10th Amendment. Problem is, the SC says that the 10th is redundant and doesn't itself convey any guarantee of Rights.
...and unfortunately, the gov operates by its own interpretation of the Constitution. Not yours or mine.


I said "almost nobody," Joe.

Good for you for being part of the "almost" group.
They don't want anyone being part of that group. It's also why the Constitution is no longer really taught in school. If one understands how it is supposed to work and is also aware of the fact of extra-Constitutional power being taken, that person will be expecting for that extra-Constitutional power to stop at some point.
....but the gov wants/needs those powers assumed by the people to be normal, but you can't have that if everyone already understands how it's supposed to be and can recognize that it ain't that way.


It's like knowing or not knowing your wife is cheating on you. If you know, you'll be expecting changes.
...but if you don't know, you'll come to believe that working late every day and having to help her sister every Saturday afternoon is all perfectly normal.
 

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Showdown at the Not-OK Corral: Trump vs. the Democrats
Gary North - January 10, 2019​

Trump has vowed: no compromise. The wall is a moral issue.

The federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only because Democrats will not fund border security. My administration is doing everything in our power to help those impacted by the situation. But the only solution is for Democrats to pass a spending bill that defends our borders and reopens the government. . . .
For those who refuse to compromise in the name of in the name of border security, I would ask, imagine if it was your child, your husband or your wife whose life was so cruelly shattered and totally broken. To every member of Congress, pass a bill that ends this crisis. To every citizen, call Congress and tell them to finally, after all of these decades, secure our border. This is a choice between right and wrong, justice and injustice. This is about whether we fulfill our sacred duty to the American citizens we serve. When I took the oath of office, I swore to protect our country. And that is what I will always do so help me God. Thank you and good night.​
Pelosi has vowed: no compromise. Keeping all of the federal government financed is a moral issue.

The fact is: President Trump has chosen to hold hostage critical services for the health, safety and well-being of the American people and withhold the paychecks of 800,000 innocent workers across the nation – many of them veterans.
He promised to keep government shutdown for 'months or years' – no matter whom it hurts. That's just plain wrong.
The fact is: We all agree we need to secure our borders, while honoring our values: we can build the infrastructure and roads at our ports of entry; we can install new technology to scan cars and trucks for drugs coming into our nation; we can hire the personnel we need to facilitate trade and immigration at the border; we can fund more innovation to detect unauthorized crossings.
The fact is: the women and children at the border are not a security threat, they are a humanitarian challenge – a challenge that President Trump's own cruel and counterproductive policies have only deepened.
And the fact is: President Trump must stop holding the American people hostage, must stop manufacturing a crisis, and must re-open the government.​
Schumer says:

There is an obvious solution: separate the shutdown from the arguments over border security. There is bipartisan legislation – supported by Democrats and Republicans – to re-open government while allowing debate over border security to continue.
There is no excuse for hurting millions of Americans over a policy difference. Federal workers are about to miss a paycheck. Some families can't get a mortgage to buy a new home. Farmers and small businesses won't get loans they desperately need.
Most presidents have used Oval Office addresses for noble purposes. This president just used the backdrop of the Oval Office to manufacture a crisis, stoke fear, and divert attention from the turmoil in his Administration.​
Here we have two rival political positions. Each side invokes morality. This is the morality of how to spend money stolen by the federal government or borrowed on the basis of its legal right to steal future money from taxpayers . . . assuming the debts will be repaid, which is preposterous.
Trump is solidifying his base. Pelosi and Schumer are solidifying theirs.
The issue is symbolic: a $5.7 billion down payment on a project with an unknown budget. The wall cannot be built before January 2021. That is when the next Congress comes into power.
Republicans in Congress did not fund the wall when they could have. They are letting Trump do the heavy lifting.
It is a true showdown. Both sides have drawn a line in the political sand. Better, both sides have their backs up against walls: rival moral walls.
If Trump sticks to his guns, the IRS will cease to function. He says he will stick to his guns.
If he backs down on this, Ann Coulter is correct: he will not be re-elected. His base will depart.
The Democrats think if he doesn't back down, he will not be re-elected. The IRS will not send out refund checks. His base will depart.
I don't know how either side will dare to blink. They have invoked morality. How can they blink?
Trump's only viable strategy politically is to assign to the military the task of building it as part of national defense. He is Commander-in-Chief. The Army Corps of Engineers could do this . . . slowly, very slowly. He can issue a challenge: "Let the House impeach me and the Senate convict."
He still faces the problem of paying for eminent domain, as I wrote last month. Judge Napolitano concurs. But it would take years to litigate Trump's violations. He will be out of office by then. He will not get the entire wall built, no matter what he does, before 2021. I don't think he will still be President after January 2021.But he can probably get some of the wall built if he acts as Commander-in-Chief, and the courts do not stop him, which they may decide to do.
With the Army Corps of Engineers on the job, he will be able to back down on any need for Congressional funding. He can re-open the IRS and the federal parks.
Meanwhile, as the rhetoric on both sides escalates, keep this in the back of your mind.
 

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The IRS will not send out refund checks. His base will depart.
Moron's will learn really quick to keep their money & pay a little at the end of the year instead of giving them a interest free loan.

Next meeting I want Trump to take more candy................ SUCKERS come to mind! :finger::give finger::rotf:
 

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59). The stock market keeps going up and the free money in the form of PPT is being doled out. May be they can divert some of that to the rest 58 on Main Street?
Yeah, subsidize the wealthy and tax the poor.
 

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Ron Paul:

The solution to really addressing the problem of illegal immigration, drug smuggling, and the threat of cross-border terrorism is clear: remove the welfare magnet that attracts so many to cross the border illegally, stop the 25 year US war in the Middle East, and end the drug war that incentivizes smugglers to cross the border.

The various taxpayer-funded programs that benefit illegal immigrants in the United States, such as direct financial transfers, medical benefits, food assistance, and education, cost an estimated $100 billion dollars per year. That is a significant burden on citizens and legal residents. The promise of free money, free food, free education, and free medical care if you cross the border illegally is a powerful incentive for people to do so. It especially makes no sense for the United States government to provide these services to those who are not in the US legally.

Likewise, the 40 year war on drugs has produced no benefit to the American people at a great cost. It is estimated that since President Nixon declared a war on drugs, the US has spent more than a trillion dollars to fight what is a losing battle. That is because just as with the welfare magnet, there is an enormous incentive to smuggle drugs into the United States.

http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/arc...0/a-better-solution-than-trump-s-border-wall/

Trumps wall isn’t going to stop our problems.

A more comprehensive plan will be needed, but wasn’t addressed when he talked to the nation.