Mother Lode Found
- Apr 13, 2011
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i'd like to see it the same way but for a fact:Absolutely right. Recycling won't really come into play at massive scale until a decade from now.
The problem is not a scarcity of extractable lithium - there's plenty. The problem is a lack of mining, refining and manufacturing capacity to keep up with demand. It can take a decade to bring a new mine online, especially with all the environmental rules and permits.
Lithium extraction and refining needs to 10x in about 8 years to meet the planned capacity that battery & auto manufacturers have already committed to for 2030. Huge gap between supply and demand. Do the math.
this country can't get people to work at fast food let alone get enough pilots to shuttle people around the country
opening up a mine is going to take time, creating that company town is going to take time...do i believe we'll be in a digital monetary world by then? perhaps, but i'd wager a quarter we'll be out of some of our ICE vehicles by then
timing is everything when any change is being 'forced' upon the masses and the timing is off, this EV change, the timing is way off
and if we were meant to be in electric cars, we'd have been in them at the roll of the century
the last century
the problem will always be with the storage device, the time to refresh that device, the distance that device will carry us and ultimately, for the general masses: Cost
i see the sheep being sheared, my kids were late bloomers to the vehicle ownership world, others here are the same way...some 'kids' now claim they won't ever own a car while a leader says we'll never own a car (we've been systematically programmed to 'be against any vehicle', and like that term 'assault weapon', meaningless no longer means meaningless; if you title a vehicle an EV, that's o.k., "but i'll never own one of those either, it's for the principal of the matter, you know?...but you can own one (like they're giving out permission) and that's a whole lot better than any old stinky carbon creating gas engine...you know?"
i don't see this as anything good, create some nebulous thing that fleeces us out of much of what we use, daily and soon we're at a stop, a dead stop, while they scratch their heads saying things like: Inflation will drop if we drop workers wages...shit like that
nope, don't participate mostly because i'm certain that the nucular (sic, lol) car is just around the corner...i heard that from a .gov leaker (joking here)
these cars can be fun, if you can afford one, and you want one, i've got zero problem, completely, go get one
but they're gonna end up with their own distinct problems shortly, one of which, if i believe what i've previously read, is that not enough people will be able to buy one, charge one or maintain one and the lithium base will become so diluted with everything they're doing with it these days, there will be less than enough for everyone to have their own source of 'independence'...we're gonna have to share, they even say so themselves, but i've not yet read the rebuttal from the new car manufacturers...i'll just presume there's complete silence / crickets from all of them
and there are no hippies left who'll buy these EV's from the used car dealer because they're still gonna cost too much
i've looked at this until i've become dizzy, that word, sustainable, comes to mind
perhaps it'll be a race to the bottom, which one will stop production first: ICE engine, EV battery
but watch the production chain, mostly because they still can't run a generator from a lithium battery pack but i'll just presume, there will be tens of millions of EV trucks about to be forced onto the road
have you read on those requirements?
i'm just presuming we're going to see an overall reduction in trucks on the road and each will carry diminshed loads, the weight of those battery packs will have to be taken into consideration when it comes to bridge weight
anyways, they're gonna be a collector item one day and i know others who can distill some gas, make old things run again, is there anyway to repair any chip or board that malfunctions along the way? idk about investments either but that deLorean was a pos so, there's always that
but everyone here knows what i think and i'm not trying to persuade anyone but myself, nor to push for any clarity on the subject other than for myself...i'm just typing out loud here, that's all