- Joined
- Jan 24, 2011
- Messages
- 3,415
- Reaction score
- 8,740
I always do my best proofreading right after I hit the send button.
![[Most Recent Quotes from www.kitco.com]](http://www.kitconet.com/images/sp_en_6.gif)
Ramblings
- Thread starter Scorpio
- Start date
- Joined
- Mar 25, 2010
- Messages
- 33,723
- Reaction score
- 50,321
fyi
dollar attempting to break 90 to the down again,
last time it bounced back up for awhile, resulting in metals getting pummeled,
this time, both metals are kickin' it to the up, and the dollar is trying to hold serve, but it is under 90 currently and a close there could spell more downside action there,
oil is acting like the dollar is going to keep going down, up big today on the petro dollar flop, lower dollar higher oil, or higher dollar lower oil
hidin' has really f@#$% things up in very short order
that below 90 is a big deal, as you will be paying more for everything,
strong dollar allows us to screw the world out of their goods on the cheap,
lower dollar means those barbie dolls just got more 'spensive
dollar attempting to break 90 to the down again,
last time it bounced back up for awhile, resulting in metals getting pummeled,
this time, both metals are kickin' it to the up, and the dollar is trying to hold serve, but it is under 90 currently and a close there could spell more downside action there,
oil is acting like the dollar is going to keep going down, up big today on the petro dollar flop, lower dollar higher oil, or higher dollar lower oil
hidin' has really f@#$% things up in very short order
that below 90 is a big deal, as you will be paying more for everything,
strong dollar allows us to screw the world out of their goods on the cheap,
lower dollar means those barbie dolls just got more 'spensive
Most of my mess ups happen while using a cell phone. Bitch to correct after it's pisted.
Speakin of payin more...
My brother-in-law works on the fishing boat out of alaska. He boards here in seattle after a two week (paid) quarantine. The company pays for that two weeks — food & lodging.
So... last month he missed his boat. But it was lucky he did, because after one week at sea the boat had to return with with a half dozen covid sick crew. The company takes another hit with ship in and out, and now they have to pay for the entire crew's medical costs.
BIL says their solution is a three week quarantine before going aboard.
Hope y'all don't like seafood a lot, looks like it might be a little more expensive.
My brother-in-law works on the fishing boat out of alaska. He boards here in seattle after a two week (paid) quarantine. The company pays for that two weeks — food & lodging.
So... last month he missed his boat. But it was lucky he did, because after one week at sea the boat had to return with with a half dozen covid sick crew. The company takes another hit with ship in and out, and now they have to pay for the entire crew's medical costs.
BIL says their solution is a three week quarantine before going aboard.
Hope y'all don't like seafood a lot, looks like it might be a little more expensive.
- Joined
- Nov 25, 2013
- Messages
- 8,971
- Reaction score
- 15,257
Long term, the buck has been slightly biased upward since the housing market meltdown in '08. Short term it just looks too tired to fight other fiat crap effectively. With the price of money ticking higher(1.354 on 10y debt), I'd bet on the buck to continue the long term uptrend vs less pretty garbage...if at a snail's pace.
Hard to say with that nasty usurper in charge though. ...oh yeah and biden is yucky too.
Hard to say with that nasty usurper in charge though. ...oh yeah and biden is yucky too.
- Joined
- Mar 25, 2010
- Messages
- 33,723
- Reaction score
- 50,321
fyi, the dollar did close 1 tick below 90 yesterday,
but promptly jumped back over in the overnight and into this am
from the attached, you can see where a attempt was made a bit ago, then a bounce back over 91, then the next slide to give it another shot at punching thru to the down
whole lot of people are predicting strong dollar in the near term,
don't know why that is, but they are
daily
weekly
but promptly jumped back over in the overnight and into this am
from the attached, you can see where a attempt was made a bit ago, then a bounce back over 91, then the next slide to give it another shot at punching thru to the down
whole lot of people are predicting strong dollar in the near term,
don't know why that is, but they are
daily
weekly
- Joined
- Nov 25, 2013
- Messages
- 8,971
- Reaction score
- 15,257
Perhaps an equity market crash causes many to flee to "safety" + higher rates. Trouble in the zero zone that needs to be papered over.
Markets ceased to make much sense long ago.
- Joined
- Nov 25, 2013
- Messages
- 8,971
- Reaction score
- 15,257
10y yields rocketing higher. Pretty soon we'll be looking at some real selling.
Well that escalated quickly...
Meanwhile the metals were set for a solid opening, until the chicongo/new york pre-market paper peddlers at the crimex smashed them again.
Well that escalated quickly...
Meanwhile the metals were set for a solid opening, until the chicongo/new york pre-market paper peddlers at the crimex smashed them again.
Last edited:
BarnacleBob
Moderator, Equal opportunity annoyer!
Founding Member
Site Mgr
Site Supporter
GIM Hall Of Fame
BarnacleBob
Moderator, Equal opportunity annoyer!
Founding Member
Site Mgr
Site Supporter
GIM Hall Of Fame
- Joined
- Mar 25, 2010
- Messages
- 33,723
- Reaction score
- 50,321
dollar finally breaking thru 90,
it kept trying to hold above it,
and now this am down to 89.70 and down 47
the most recent low before the bounce was about 89.24
gold isn't joining in with silver as silver moves up and gold down 6
it kept trying to hold above it,
and now this am down to 89.70 and down 47
the most recent low before the bounce was about 89.24
gold isn't joining in with silver as silver moves up and gold down 6
- Joined
- Nov 25, 2013
- Messages
- 8,971
- Reaction score
- 15,257
Gold's behavior is really strange of late. Some days everything metallic moves up, while the dollar declines, and still gold naps. Comex is seeing brisk deliveries of gold @ > 3.6m ounces this month, and supply is tight, but it just doesn't seem to want to participate.
Silver is just now getting it's daily pre-market NY beating, erasing any gains it had overnight...as usual. Pushed right back under 28 for about the 100th time. Meanwhile the disparity between spot and physical continues to increase. Bulk silver products(100 oz and kilo bars) at the large online vendors are completely sold out and have been for days, premiums are high and increasing, but spot languishes.
...and yields on the 10y note are surging again...now at 1.465%.
Never have I seen such an obvious divergence in relative strength between the two former monetary metals. Gold catches a beat down and just lays there bleeding, but silver is full of piss and vinegar.
Gold now down another 1.25% even while the buck is getting hammered. If it's not a buy in here after consolidating for six months. That thing needs to be put back into the ground. lol
Silver is just now getting it's daily pre-market NY beating, erasing any gains it had overnight...as usual. Pushed right back under 28 for about the 100th time. Meanwhile the disparity between spot and physical continues to increase. Bulk silver products(100 oz and kilo bars) at the large online vendors are completely sold out and have been for days, premiums are high and increasing, but spot languishes.
...and yields on the 10y note are surging again...now at 1.465%.
Never have I seen such an obvious divergence in relative strength between the two former monetary metals. Gold catches a beat down and just lays there bleeding, but silver is full of piss and vinegar.
Gold now down another 1.25% even while the buck is getting hammered. If it's not a buy in here after consolidating for six months. That thing needs to be put back into the ground. lol
Last edited:
- Joined
- Nov 25, 2013
- Messages
- 8,971
- Reaction score
- 15,257
Interestingly, it's gold and not silver that's leaving the crimex in record quantity this delivery month...even while gold sentiment, according to wall street, is atrocious. No gold! ...absolutely do not get into gold! It's horrible! ...except who's taking delivery of these millions of ounces of gold this month?
https://www.cmegroup.com/delivery_reports/MetalsIssuesAndStopsYTDReport.pdf
They hammer the paper price down, tell you that stacking barbaric relics in here is the worst idea since ideas were invented...all the while they're stacking the quintessential "barbaric relic" hand over fist.
https://www.cmegroup.com/delivery_reports/MetalsIssuesAndStopsYTDReport.pdf
They hammer the paper price down, tell you that stacking barbaric relics in here is the worst idea since ideas were invented...all the while they're stacking the quintessential "barbaric relic" hand over fist.
- Joined
- Mar 25, 2010
- Messages
- 33,723
- Reaction score
- 50,321
we have spoken of the dislocations repeatedly and here we are again,
dollar was down hard this am, and gold was down, then dollar recovered back over 90 and gold and silver both got hit,
so that part balanced,
yet, here is afternoon, stocks are getting hit, yet so are bond prices ie yields up. Typical market action has the bonds going up as a flight to safety when stocks are getting hit. Not so yet again today.
As we have stated, so many of these supposed 'normal' relationships just aren't in play. Everything is totally fluid these days. What was certainly no longer 'is'.
Now sure, 1 day does not make a trend, and yes bond prices have been going down while stocks continued to rise. So we see if bond prices continue to sink along with stocks or if it is but another aberration
For over 3 decades we have been watching this inverted relationship of stocks vs bonds.
dollar was down hard this am, and gold was down, then dollar recovered back over 90 and gold and silver both got hit,
so that part balanced,
yet, here is afternoon, stocks are getting hit, yet so are bond prices ie yields up. Typical market action has the bonds going up as a flight to safety when stocks are getting hit. Not so yet again today.
As we have stated, so many of these supposed 'normal' relationships just aren't in play. Everything is totally fluid these days. What was certainly no longer 'is'.
Now sure, 1 day does not make a trend, and yes bond prices have been going down while stocks continued to rise. So we see if bond prices continue to sink along with stocks or if it is but another aberration
For over 3 decades we have been watching this inverted relationship of stocks vs bonds.
BarnacleBob
Moderator, Equal opportunity annoyer!
Founding Member
Site Mgr
Site Supporter
GIM Hall Of Fame
Record-High Lumber Prices Add $24K to the Price of a New Home
https://nahbnow.com/2021/02/record-...ook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Social2021
https://nahbnow.com/2021/02/record-...ook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Social2021
- Joined
- Nov 25, 2013
- Messages
- 8,971
- Reaction score
- 15,257
Not sure what happened today, but it felt like something broke. That something was likely in the bond market. I heard a blogger suggest there was a failure to liquidate 7yr paper, that the fed had to hoover up over 40% of the toxic debt. With inflation ticking up, even if Powell calls it "soft", and trillions more in funny munny on the way, I don't see how anyone thinks the debt markets are a good option.
Then apparently there was some divine intervention in the currency markets, as I saw the buck over half a point down for the day...only to close up. Metals got killed all day, and it made zero difference what was going on with the buck, equities, or debt markets. Frankly today felt very 17 November 2008ish, with the metals taken to the woodshed with everything else...because reasons. I think we all know what happened to the metals next, and I suspect the same is about to happen in here.
No matter the scenario, it seems to me physical metals are going to win. The system is broken, and the fed has only one arrow left in the quiver. They'll print, even more than they already are while trying to talk markets off the ledge.
Then apparently there was some divine intervention in the currency markets, as I saw the buck over half a point down for the day...only to close up. Metals got killed all day, and it made zero difference what was going on with the buck, equities, or debt markets. Frankly today felt very 17 November 2008ish, with the metals taken to the woodshed with everything else...because reasons. I think we all know what happened to the metals next, and I suspect the same is about to happen in here.
No matter the scenario, it seems to me physical metals are going to win. The system is broken, and the fed has only one arrow left in the quiver. They'll print, even more than they already are while trying to talk markets off the ledge.
Last edited:
It's spreading
Might just be tokyo
If you want to put on a tinfoil hat....
- Joined
- Mar 25, 2010
- Messages
- 33,723
- Reaction score
- 50,321
so we get up this am and the dollar has bounced yet again,
up 42 to 90.56
with bonds finally catching a bid for one day
meanwhile metals get the hammer,
and stocks have no follow thru from yesterdays minor sell
here are the prices on bonds, followed by the 'yield' chart ie rates on 30 yr,
you can see how this would change the housing market dramatically re affordability
oversold as the sell off has been relentless,
for mort rates, darn near a full % higher just since Oct last
up 42 to 90.56
with bonds finally catching a bid for one day
meanwhile metals get the hammer,
and stocks have no follow thru from yesterdays minor sell
here are the prices on bonds, followed by the 'yield' chart ie rates on 30 yr,
you can see how this would change the housing market dramatically re affordability
oversold as the sell off has been relentless,
for mort rates, darn near a full % higher just since Oct last
- Joined
- Apr 6, 2011
- Messages
- 14,788
- Reaction score
- 31,370
Just like GME / gamestop........
- Joined
- Mar 25, 2010
- Messages
- 33,723
- Reaction score
- 50,321
3.0% Interest
a 30 year mort,
325,000 pay, 20% down,
1096.17 monthly
4.0% interest
a 30 year mort,
325,000 pay, 20% down,
1241.28
so the monthly just went up 150 bucks for the rate increase alone
Now lets say you are maxed at that 1096/mth
ie cannot do 1241 by the ratios,
Then it simply means, your affordability just went from 325k down to 287,500
and you still have to come up with over 57k in down
point is, that house price to sell just got a haircut on price of over 35,000 just on the interest alone variable
a 30 year mort,
325,000 pay, 20% down,
1096.17 monthly
4.0% interest
a 30 year mort,
325,000 pay, 20% down,
1241.28
so the monthly just went up 150 bucks for the rate increase alone
Now lets say you are maxed at that 1096/mth
ie cannot do 1241 by the ratios,
Then it simply means, your affordability just went from 325k down to 287,500
and you still have to come up with over 57k in down
point is, that house price to sell just got a haircut on price of over 35,000 just on the interest alone variable
Scorp,
If they stall the new construction, home remodel engine we are screwed... it is about the only thing keeping it all chugging. Your absolutely correct on your calculations, but we have inflated the price levels and set the bar high. We drop back 10% at the same time .gov is raising ad velour and insurance companies piling it on to cover the big freeze, we might re educate a whole new group on the thrills of property ownership. I have been begging and pleading investors to dump into this spike but they keep telling I'm dumb...
Time will tell....
If they stall the new construction, home remodel engine we are screwed... it is about the only thing keeping it all chugging. Your absolutely correct on your calculations, but we have inflated the price levels and set the bar high. We drop back 10% at the same time .gov is raising ad velour and insurance companies piling it on to cover the big freeze, we might re educate a whole new group on the thrills of property ownership. I have been begging and pleading investors to dump into this spike but they keep telling I'm dumb...
Time will tell....
- Joined
- Nov 25, 2013
- Messages
- 8,971
- Reaction score
- 15,257
Bitcoin is again...apparently the only asset relatively free of bankster manipulation. It has been in a correction after a 350% runnup and bounce off 60k, but while negative this morning, it has since rocketed upward, erasing any losses and gaining ground(+2%) while the paper metal "prices" are again being smashed to dust...which will effectively raise premiums on physical as "spot" drops as a percentage of total bullion purchases.
Premiums on physical metal were already at or near historic highs, and this is just making them effectively higher with silver bullion premiums over 19%, platinum premiums pushing 9%, and gold premiums over 4%. The physical and paper prices are clearly diverging as the not dumb among us recognize the importance of rushing into assets outside the collapsing US dollar system...even if bankster want you to do otherwise.
The nasdaq up sharply while the dow drops is rather amusing. Likely a dead cat bounce in techs after yesterday's bloodbath.
Premiums on physical metal were already at or near historic highs, and this is just making them effectively higher with silver bullion premiums over 19%, platinum premiums pushing 9%, and gold premiums over 4%. The physical and paper prices are clearly diverging as the not dumb among us recognize the importance of rushing into assets outside the collapsing US dollar system...even if bankster want you to do otherwise.
The nasdaq up sharply while the dow drops is rather amusing. Likely a dead cat bounce in techs after yesterday's bloodbath.
Rates just sent to me by my big dog lender.... 30 year 5/8 a point higher than before election
Conforming
Loan TypeMI TypeInterest Rate Discount Points APR
Conforming 30-year Fixed 3.125% 0.000 3.157%
Conforming 15-year Fixed 2.375% 0.250 2.469%
Conforming 7-year/6-month ARM 2.375% 0.125 2.622%
Conforming 10-year/6-month ARM 2.750% 0.375 2.811%
Jumbo
Loan TypeMI TypeInterest Rate Discount Points APR
Jumbo 30-year Fixed 3.000% 0.500 3.051%
Jumbo 15-year Fixed 2.875% 0.250 2.933%
Jumbo 7-year/6-month ARM 2.500% 0.375 2.678%
Jumbo 10-year/6-month ARM 2.625% 0.500 2.726%
Conforming
Loan TypeMI TypeInterest Rate Discount Points APR
Conforming 30-year Fixed 3.125% 0.000 3.157%
Conforming 15-year Fixed 2.375% 0.250 2.469%
Conforming 7-year/6-month ARM 2.375% 0.125 2.622%
Conforming 10-year/6-month ARM 2.750% 0.375 2.811%
Jumbo
Loan TypeMI TypeInterest Rate Discount Points APR
Jumbo 30-year Fixed 3.000% 0.500 3.051%
Jumbo 15-year Fixed 2.875% 0.250 2.933%
Jumbo 7-year/6-month ARM 2.500% 0.375 2.678%
Jumbo 10-year/6-month ARM 2.625% 0.500 2.726%
- Joined
- Nov 25, 2013
- Messages
- 8,971
- Reaction score
- 15,257
The alleged flight to "safety" is amusing.
Anyone notice the fed discontinued their old M2 moneysupply stock charting methodology? Allegedly they did this due to changes to M1 calculation(also nixed) but left M2 calculation alone(allegedly). Changed recently also is the old fed balance sheet calculation methodology. No doubt these men and women of integrity are only doing these things to better reflect the state of the US financial system. ...no way any of this could be due in any way to the fact that Weimar Republic style printing is just getting really warmed up and they needed cover. No I'm sure it'll be every bit as innocuous as the federal regime's many changes to GDP and CPI measurements over the years.
Anyone notice the fed discontinued their old M2 money
- Joined
- Apr 6, 2011
- Messages
- 14,788
- Reaction score
- 31,370
Just want to point out.
Sellers get less $.
Banksters get more $.
Just do the math..............
When you buy on payment size you are screwed.
On the above rates quoted to me, racking my brain to ever remember jumbo 30 less than conforming 30.... seen them close to the same with jumbo 1/8 to 1/4 higher a zillion times but never that I can recall jumbo lower. To make matters ever more interesting if you have 7 figures in an investment account with them they'll do 2.625% on that jumbo... making a full .5% lower, welcome to the twilight zone
House passed the stimulus bill...
China Joe working on ending the petro.dollar system by pushing KSA into Chinese sphere
- Joined
- Nov 25, 2013
- Messages
- 8,971
- Reaction score
- 15,257
New York apparently despises yellow metal. Gold was leading the way up all night long, but caught a major slam down with NY open. Putting silver and platinum firmly in the driver's seat.
10y yields up a bit at 1.45%.
10y yields up a bit at 1.45%.
- Joined
- Nov 25, 2013
- Messages
- 8,971
- Reaction score
- 15,257
The dow dropped over 10k points in two days and now it's bouncing back like nothing happened. Dead cat? Early warning?
Dollar up vs other fiat, 10yr yield ticking up, metals that aren't yellow up a bit. Bizarre markets are bizarre.
Edit: Time for the lunchtime paper metals smack down. The banksters are loyal to their schedules.
Dollar up vs other fiat, 10yr yield ticking up, metals that aren't yellow up a bit. Bizarre markets are bizarre.
Edit: Time for the lunchtime paper metals smack down. The banksters are loyal to their schedules.
Last edited:
BarnacleBob
Moderator, Equal opportunity annoyer!
Founding Member
Site Mgr
Site Supporter
GIM Hall Of Fame
JUST IN - An extra 259 billionaires were created in #China in 2020, more than the rest of the world combined, as the Communist country's economy outpaced all among the pandemic (Daily Mail)
@disclosetv @disclosetv_chat