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Rappoport: What the CDC says about the test; Straight from the horse's mouth---both sides

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Here's what the CDC says about the test for the Coronavirus

Straight from the horse's mouth---both sides

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---The CDC (US Centers for Disease Control) admits the coronavirus test is flawed. That's the overview and the takeaway---

As my readers know, I've described why the widespread diagnostic test for the coronavirus is insufficient, misleading, useless, and deceptive.

That test, used all over the world where it is available, is called the PCR.

It DIAGNOSES patients. "Yes, you have the virus." "No you don't."

A very alert reader sent me a link to a US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) document about the test. The CDC establishes the guidelines for how the test should be done, and what the results mean.

Here is a CDC paragraph about results. I suggest you read it several times.

"Positive [test] results are indicative of active infection with 2019-nCoV but do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease. Laboratories within the United States and its territories are required to report all positive results to the appropriate public health authorities."

I'm going to blow past the blatant contradiction in that CDC paragraph and cut to the chase.

The key line in that paragraph is: "The agent detected [the coronavirus] may not be the definite cause of disease."

BANG.

CDC: Yeah, you see, folks, ahem, the test could say the coronavirus is there in somebody's body, but the virus may not be causing disease...

On one level, the CDC is admitting the test could turn up false positives: the test could SAY a patient has the coronavirus, but he really doesn't.

This isn't a footnote stuck at the bottom of a report. It's right there near the top of the section about the meaning of the test.

On a deeper level, the CDC is saying straight out, IF THE TEST SHOWS A CORONAVIRUS IS PRESENT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S CAUSING DISEASE.

Well, yes, I've pointed out that the test has an inherent problem. At best, it might show that a virus is present in the patient's body. But the test is incapable of determining HOW MUCH virus is ACTIVELY REPLICATING in the patient's body.

And why is that important? Because, to even begin to say a virus is causing actual illness in a human, there would have to be millions and millions of a virus replicating in his body---and the PCR test has never been proven, in the real world, to be able to make such a judgment call accurately.

But, if you read that CDC quote again, you'll see the CDC is ordering labs to report a positive test result to public health agencies---where it will be counted as a "coronavirus case" come hell or high water.

Thank you, CDC. So very, very much. The next ship for Uranus leaves tomorrow. Pile on board and make the trip. You can run tests there to your heart's content.

www[dot]cdc[dot]gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/rt-pcr-detection-instructions.html

This link will take you to a page with a number of links. Scroll down until you reach the link titled, "CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel Instructions for Use." That's the one.​
 

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Thank you for posting this.

TYPICAL GOVERNMENT AGENCY DOUBLE SPEAK
 
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"Positive [test] results are indicative of active infection with 2019-nCoV but do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease. Laboratories within the United States and its territories are required to report all positive results to the appropriate public health authorities."
from https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download ( 48 page PDF )
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Results are for the identification of 2019-nCoV RNA. The 2019-nCoV RNA is generally detectable in upper and lower respiratory specimens during infection. Positive results are indicative of active infection with 2019-nCoV but do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease. Laboratories within the United States and its territories are required to report all positive results to the appropriate public health authorities.
>>

the above is via
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/index.html
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" CDC 2019-nCoV Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel Instructions for Use "

I just required a reference

:beer:
 

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That isn't really all that crazy. Coronaviruses are pretty common. It's just this new one that could be particularly dangerous. So I doubt t these tests can tell the difference between a common cold CV and the ome that destroys lung tissues.
 

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Find out where the tests are being manufactured. If it's in China it's a payoff.
The reason the US was months behind much of the world in testing was the CDC wanted to use their own test, and WOULDN'T accept tests offered by the WHO, which were made in China. Then they screwed up the manufacture of the test. And they wouldn't let any private US institutions develop their own test. The was an epic failure by Trump administration.
 

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The CDC is in the executive branch.
So Trump runs the CDC too? Jesus, is there nothing that happens that isn't his fault?
 

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Positive [test] results are indicative of active infection with 2019-nCoV
[We have detected 2019-nCoV]

do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses
[the patient may have another infection]

agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease.
[the other infection may be what caused the patient to die so don't blame 2019-nCoV]
There, translated from medico speech.


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