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Rate your generators

What brand do you prefer?

  • Honda

    Votes: 32 61.5%
  • Generac

    Votes: 4 7.7%
  • Coleman

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Briggs & Stratton

    Votes: 3 5.8%
  • DeWalt

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other?

    Votes: 13 25.0%

  • Total voters
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Small type generators for the jobs where power isn't available,

or to be used as temp replacement power,

not talking about whole house, longer term systems
 

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There was a thread on this last year. I had a ching chong generator, but sold it because I could probably never get fuel for it for an extended period of time. I can go a week with no electric, but two weeks no a/c in the summer is a bitch.
 

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If I voted in this one it would do nothing but add random to the mix. I don't really know how it stacks up vs. the others but I did vote with my wallet and bought a small Honda eu2000i inverter generator. I love it.

The price at around $950 is on the high side but available online with free shipping and no tax if you look. They are impossible to find used. It's extremely portable like a suitcase at 40 pounds or so and puts out 1600 watts-2000 peak barely sipping fuel and whisper quiet. The reason I bought is was that I have a diesel pickup that just does not want to start in cold temps without the block heater plugged in. This thing can get thrown in the back seat (fuel cap seals tight, no fuel vapors ever) and used as needed. I also picked up the 12 volt plug/harness that can be used to charge the pickup batteries while it heats up the engine. I direct the exhaust heat toward the oil pan.

It is about as easy to carry around and use where needed as it would be to drag extension cords. I store it in a Greenlee bender box that serves as a faraday cage in case the SHTF. I was told it should run up to 10,000 hours properly maintained.

It comes with my highest recommendation.
 

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Agreed, no matter how much I hate to say it, Honda is number one

I have a Honda power washer too, and every year, starts and runs
 

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My Honda eu2000i has been a real trooper for many years. I have it set up to run on gasoline or propane. I also have a new smaller inverter generator, an 800 watt Earthquake IG800W. Had it only 5 months. It's a bit louder than the Honda, but in every other way within its rated power, just as good.
 

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got a bunch of them......but the inverter style Hondas or Yamahas are some of the finest portable gennies out there.....(yamaha wasnt a option)
 

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Onan. I don't know why they gave it the same name as the guy in the OT.
 

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I have a Honda Odyssey with 210K miles on it. I don't have a generator, but if I did, it would be a Honda.

The quality of the van is the best I've seen so I'll assume their gen sets are equally as good.
 

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No questions. Honda is the way to go. As long as it has the HONDA motor, it will start when needed and perform with efficiency and reliability. This carries to lawnmowers. I'll take a Honda motor over Briggs and Stratton. Just give me an old school gas can, please.
 

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Another nice thing about a lot of the little Honda/Yamaha generators is you can connect two of them to get twice the power when needed without running a bigger unit when you don't need all that power. One bad point of the smaller inverter sets is , they have no option to make 220V available. Personally, I have a Honda 4KW that is almost 30 years old and they don't make the brushes for it any more. The last time I had the brushes replaced, they took them out of a scrapped unit. It will be a sad day when I have to part her out. :( Just like any other Honda motor, it still starts on the first or second pull. If it doesn't, something is in the off position. I also have a Kubota 6.5 KW diesel. I would recommend either of these brands to someone I liked.
 

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Another nice thing about a lot of the little Honda/Yamaha generators is you can connect two of them to get twice the power when needed without running a bigger unit when you don't need all that power. One bad point of the smaller inverter sets is , they have no option to make 220V available. Personally, I have a Honda 4KW that is almost 30 years old and they don't make the brushes for it any more. The last time I had the brushes replaced, they took them out of a scrapped unit. It will be a sad day when I have to part her out. :( Just like any other Honda motor, it still starts on the first or second pull. If it doesn't, something is in the off position. I also have a Kubota 6.5 KW diesel. I would recommend either of these brands to someone I liked.
It is quite easy to make brushes for obsolete motors or generators. I made a set for a motor even though they were available but I didn't want to wait for the 2 days for them. Just find some similar but larger and put them on the grindstone. And you really don't need to be precise with your grindings either. You can find them cheap all over eBay or dig through a brush selection at your motor shop. If the wire shunts are wrong you can usually just crimp splice them as needed. As a bonus your sense of satisfaction and well being will benefit from the accomplishment.

Just make sure to wear a dust mask or grind them in an area with good ventilation or you will be picking black boogies for a day or so.
 

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Honda has owned this market with its small inverter generators for a while, but I think the Yamaha's inverter generator will take the market away from them unless they step their game up!

Yamaha is a newer design that eliminated several of the Hondas shortcomings and is reported to be just as dependable and long lived!

Guys that sell/work on both tend to like the Yamaha better and I just got a 4 year warranty on the blue 2000 watt one I got!

SD
 

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I voted Honda but mine is a house brand of Northern Tool but uses a Honda motor. Always starts within two pulls.
 

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After Hurricane Sandy I upgraded to a Winco HP12000HE with a Honda GX620 marine motor and a Mecc Alte S.p.A. generator head. The EPA stuck its nose into the booming generator business after Sandy and they had to switch to the Honda GX360 engines for emissions.

It might seem like a little overkill but I supply my two elderly neighbors, one on an oxygen generator, with power during outages. The thing runs on gasoline (15 gallon tank), propane and natural gas. Just stay away from the exhaust port. I almost lit my wooden fence on fire while running a periodic test on it last year when I had it too close to the fence.

This is the current incarnation: http://www.wincogen.com/HPS12000HE/

I keep joking with the Mrs. that I need a diesel/coal/wood burning combo to be fully covered for any power outage.
 

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Ok bunny trail alert!

Just got my hands on an old Honda ER 400 that had been tucked into the corner of a garage for 25 years or so. Yea it started on the 5th or 6th pull after I'd done an oil check and added some gasoline!

I was pretty tickled as I expected shop time to get it up and running.

SD
 

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Do whole house standby generators count? I have a Generac 14kw that simply works! I have 95% of the house tied in (including heat and central air) and it never skips a beat
 

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I have been fiddling with a KATO 60Kw which is spun by a 471. Ok, ok it is for pumping water.....3phase water.....Oh yeah phased water? Why solid, liquid and gaseous of course. :)
 

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I have a Yamaha EU3000 electric start inverter, and I like it better than my previous Honda inverter.

Honda has owned this market with its small inverter generators for a while, but I think the Yamaha's inverter generator will take the market away from them unless they step their game up!

Yamaha is a newer design that eliminated several of the Hondas shortcomings and is reported to be just as dependable and long lived!

Guys that sell/work on both tend to like the Yamaha better and I just got a 4 year warranty on the blue 2000 watt one I got!

SD
 

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Let me contribute that I have one of the Earthquake/PortaSource IG800w 800 watt inverter generators and rate it highly over the short period of time I've had it. It's a bit louder than the eu2000i and is of course seriously limited on its power capability. On the other hand, it runs really well and at 20 lbs. is super-easy to move around. Only time will tell for durability, where Honda and Yamaha have already proven themselves.
 

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Honda has owned this market with its small inverter generators for a while, but I think the Yamaha's inverter generator will take the market away from them unless they step their game up!

Yamaha is a newer design that eliminated several of the Hondas shortcomings and is reported to be just as dependable and long lived!

Guys that sell/work on both tend to like the Yamaha better and I just got a 4 year warranty on the blue 2000 watt one I got!

SD
I hadn't seen this thread until this morning, but I had the opposite opinion from a dealer that I visited yesterday evening. I was looking at a 2000 W Yamaha and a 2000 W Honda. I spoke with two sales people and a manager, and all three recommended the Honda. They also service generators, and I asked about the Yamaha 4-year warranty vs. the Honda 3-year warranty. They told me that the only Honda generators that they see in for repair have either been improperly maintained, or been seriously abused. One of the managers told me that he dropped his Honda inverter 12-15 feet onto concrete and it only received a scuff mark. I must admit that I have not spoken to anyone who owns a Yamaha, but the two independent sources that I have spoken with who have had Honda 2000 W inverters for a couple of years both were very satisfied.
 

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I hadn't seen this thread until this morning, but I had the opposite opinion from a dealer that I visited yesterday evening. I was looking at a 2000 W Yamaha and a 2000 W Honda. I spoke with two sales people and a manager, and all three recommended the Honda. They also service generators, and I asked about the Yamaha 4-year warranty vs. the Honda 3-year warranty. They told me that the only Honda generators that they see in for repair have either been improperly maintained, or been seriously abused. One of the managers told me that he dropped his Honda inverter 12-15 feet onto concrete and it only received a scuff mark. I must admit that I have not spoken to anyone who owns a Yamaha, but the two independent sources that I have spoken with who have had Honda 2000 W inverters for a couple of years both were very satisfied.
Someone with the Yamaha told me over the weekend that the Honda had a plastic push rod in the engine.
 

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Someone with the Yamaha told me over the weekend that the Honda had a plastic push rod in the engine.
I'm afraid he/she is mistaken because the eu2000i uses an overhead camshaft. The camshaft is indeed plastic, and many look down upon that. The other side of the coin is that the eu2000i has an outstanding longevity record.
 

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I have a Honda EM500SX, it sat for 3 or 4 years without being started. I needed it for
remote power. I thought, damn, this is going to be a job to get it going after all this time.

Hahahaha, the battery was dead, so I had to pull start it, 3 pulls & it started, well almost,
it choked, it gasped, it farted, it smoked, I thought it would die, then for about a minute or so, it went through a bunch of convulsions.
Then it settle down & ran perfect. I like Honda products.
 

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I think the Honda and Yamaha are both reliable. The only ones that I have heard that are trouble with a capital "T" are those cheap, yellow, generators made in China.
 
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I voted honda, kick butt and bullet proof. Older inverter style. Used to run the saws and heavy stuff and is now a back up generator.:wink_smile:
Updated to a Yamaha 2400 watt inverter type. $1400 was worth it so far. Not as loud as the honda either. Runs the cabin off grid all weekend for the last year, (48 hours total a weekend).

This last month got all the solar panels hooked up and done.. But will keep both generators up there. Like having a rifle and two pistols.
 

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Even though I don't have one, I voted Honda. When I was looking for one, Honda was at the top of the list of choices. You can convert it to run on propane if needed, so you don't have to worry about fuel storage. Almost everyone has a propane grill, use that cylinder to run the generator. Just google for the carb kit conversion.
 

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I hadn't seen this thread until this morning, but I had the opposite opinion from a dealer that I visited yesterday evening. I was looking at a 2000 W Yamaha and a 2000 W Honda. I spoke with two sales people and a manager, and all three recommended the Honda. They also service generators, and I asked about the Yamaha 4-year warranty vs. the Honda 3-year warranty. They told me that the only Honda generators that they see in for repair have either been improperly maintained, or been seriously abused. One of the managers told me that he dropped his Honda inverter 12-15 feet onto concrete and it only received a scuff mark. I must admit that I have not spoken to anyone who owns a Yamaha, but the two independent sources that I have spoken with who have had Honda 2000 W inverters for a couple of years both were very satisfied.
If the shop you stopped at sold and services both brands ok, but most will push their brand above others.

The folks I spoke with have experience with both in fact one salesman has I think two Hondas and three Yamahas and found he generally used one of his Yamaha generators. The mechanic took the Yamaha to his grandmother during the last blizzard even though either would have worked.

What I like in the Yamaha is that any two 2000's will link! This allows you to even out the hours on both generators. Honda needs one regular and one companion to link.
Yamaha has a fuel gauge. Handy but not a deal breaker.
Yamaha has a fuel shutoff valve that allows easy dry carb shutdown.
Yamaha is reported to be all metal inside no plastic cams or what have you.
Yamaha is not noisier and some argue that it is quieter.

Can't argue against Honda and they will likely pass Yamaha during their next model change, but right now the Yamaha seems to be a more intelligent design and possibly better made!

SD
 

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I have an Iowa made Mi-T-M Generator. They use Honda engines, so you get the best engine out there, with everything else made in the USA (Peosta Iowa). People in the trades tell me it is the best portable on the market. You can only get these at a contractor supplier in my area. If properly taken care of, this ‘contractor grade’ generator will run for 5 thousand hours easy. Purchased this right after Hurricane Sandy hit. Used it for about a week when my power went out – about 46 hours total. Changed the oil and start it once every few months. That Honda engine always starts with only one or two pulls. It cost me about 4 grand, but some of that was the Hurricane Sandy premium for sure. This contractor supply company was the only place we could find a portable generator within a 150 mile radius. Impossible to find one at that time, even places as far as Northern VT were sold out. I guess nobody but my wife thought of calling a contractor supply company for a generator. Every big box and hardware store was sold out - but I am delighted to have a USA made generator.

The service at Mi-T-M is fantastic, you call Iowa and they pick up by the second ring.
 

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Honda needs one regular and one companion to link.
This is incorrect, any combination of Companion and non-Companion eu2000i generators can be connected in parallel. The non-Companion and Companion Hondas are electrically identical. The only difference is in the AC outlet configuration. If you use the Honda parallel cables, the output is limited to 20 amps from a single outlet because of the outlet rating. With the higher rated outlet on the Companion, greater than 20 amps can be pulled. Several of the aftermarket parallel kits include a higher rated outlet to allow greater than 20 amps to be pulled from dual non-Companions. Here's an example http://www.steadypower.com/products.php?product=Honda-EU2000i-Parallel-Cable-Kit-%252d-RV-Ready.

An often cited advantage of Honda over Yamaha inverter generators is that the Honda uses a fuel pump while Yamaha does not, making the use of an external fuel tank much easier with Honda.
 

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Interesting!

That's not how it was explained to me! Even my reading about them didn't make it sound that way.

Is that after market only or can you get that option from Honda?

SD
 

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Honda sells only one type of parallel connection cables to connect 2 generators. It does not include an additional outlet. I see there are fewer aftermarket cables on the market than there were a year ago. Many people have made their own. The generators are paralleled by simply hooking their AC outputs together. They automatically synchronize the outputs. The simplest way to describe the DIY solution is to start with the Honda cable, cut it in half, and put a 30 amp outlet in the middle. Here's a video showing how to do it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXqts2Lfgzk . In the past there was a kit to hook 3 generators together (not sanctioned by Honda). There have been a lot of reports of successfully paralleling different size eu generators together, also not sanctioned by Honda.
 

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If the shop you stopped at sold and services both brands ok, but most will push their brand above others.
They sell Yamaha and Honda, and no other brands. I was a bit surprised that the employees all seemed to prefer Honda, as they had a large Yamaha display and the Hondas were slightly off to the side with a modest display.
 

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My only portable genset is a Honda 1000, too small to be really useful for powering anything but electric power tool or lights. I tried to use it for running some refrigeration one time and it couldn't handle the startup. But, I like generators and have 3 Onans - a 6.5k propane in an rv, a 6.5 diesel that needs some tlc (bought it off craigslist for $300 but it was missing the fuel cutoff solenoid, which are no longer made and on ebay used ones cost as much as the generator - but it runs goods and have put it on the backburner until I find the part at the right price.) and 4k gasser that is the closest Onan to being portable.

I would definitely consider the bigger Honda's if I was in the market. There's a foodtruck nearby that runs a Honda 5 days a week several hours a day and has for years. He has to buy a new one every few years but wouldn't use anything else for his situation.
 

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Small type generators for the jobs where power isn't available,

or to be used as temp replacement power,

not talking about whole house, longer term systems
Guess on my small screen I missed this post and I voted for the Genrac because I have had one for years. Got a full oil pressure US made Kohler 16hp motor and is rated at 8,000, surge to 12,000. It ran all my needs when I was working and runs most of what I need here at the house. Last time I needed it was when Wilma blew through (05?). It will run the 2 ton AC I have on the bedroom side of the house with a strain. But within a couple of hours it be comfortable to sleep in any of the three bedrooms. Jury rigged a dryer cord into the 220 plug on the gen. All US made parts, not like those wussey ones from China that last about 72 hours, if run non stop.

I start it up every 6 months and let it run for a couple of hours. Good thing it has electric start because this old man prolly couldn't last more than a half dozen pulls. :-)

I did get a deal on it when I bought it back in 03 it cost $1,700, and I got it for 1,200 new. Otherwise I would probably buy a Honda if I were in the market today.
 

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No questions. Honda is the way to go. As long as it has the HONDA motor, it will start when needed and perform with efficiency and reliability. This carries to lawnmowers. I'll take a Honda motor over Briggs and Stratton. Just give me an old school gas can, please.
Even though this post above is almost a year old I'll tell ya how to make those new gas can's work just like the old ones, so listen up.

Buy yourself a tire stem valve. Drill a 1/2 inch hole in the spot where the old snap cap used to be. Remove the inners from the tire stem. Feed a coat hanger from the hole ya drilled out the fill hole. Slip the tire stem (you didn't throw away the cap did ya?) onto the wire. Make a tight loop on the end of the wire beyond the fat end of the tire stem. Draw the tire stem towards the hole ya drilled. When you get it almost all the way through use some channel locks to grab the tire stem, and pull it till it snaps into the hole. Remove the wire and put the cap on the tire stem and you have a old fashion gas can.
 

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I have three of the "old" gas cans and you could not take them away from me with a gun.
Also, I have a Yamaha EU3000 electric start inverter, and I like it better than my previous Honda inverter.
 

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Have an older Honda EB3500 that I purchased from a pawn shop. It's basically still new. That thing has sat for two years with, or without fuel in it (Stabil) and starts on the first or second pull every time. We've been using an old piece of shit looking Makita on the jobsite. Thing runs all day, never had a problem with it, til it shut down due to low oil level. Oil in it was blacker than tar. General Contractor's generator. We topped it off with fresh oil, and it kept chugging! He said he couldn't remember when, if ever changing the oil on the thing!
 

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I have mine installed on some coastal property in the redwood forest. I used threaded earth anchors from American Earth Anchors, Cy Henry is a great guy and can help anchor almost anything AmericanEA.com. Also used a lockdown device from LowPro, it has a nice hidden hasp lock that keeps it secure. There are no exposed bolt heads and it would be very difficult to "cut" the generator off the mount.

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I live off grid, and I depend on my Honda EM6500SX to get us through the cloudy weeks. I start it with auto-throttle on and the breaker off. In cold weather I cover the recoil intake with a sheet of paper to help it warm up. When it is ready to work the RPMs jump. Then I turn off the auto-throttle and throw the breaker on. I've learned that it is best not to have a big load initially. Something inside the generator literally turns it off if the initial load is too high. It really sips fuel. I can get a couple hours of run time on a gallon. When it is running it is powering my house loads and sending the surplus to the battery. So far it has been a good generator. Fairly loud, and very heavy, but reliable.