• Same story, different day...........year ie more of the same fiat floods the world
  • There are no markets
  • "Spreading the ideas of freedom loving people on matters regarding high finance, politics, constructionist Constitution, and mental masturbation of all types"

Serious Question, Does anyone really believe......

Better off with current admin, No is a choice for the opposite result ie dems

  • Yes

    Votes: 52 92.9%
  • No

    Votes: 4 7.1%

  • Total voters
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The act would be very different, but we would still have Obamacare, trillions for the banksters, wars for Israel, secrecy in government and ZOG's bootheel firmly planted on the middle class.The show and the act and the entertainment and the bread and circuses are totally different, yes. But that's not what I focus on.
While those are fair criticisms, I like the direction we're heading in for a change. Freedom of expression has increased and political correctness has been dealt a blow...I think a fatal blow. That'd not have happened with a president shillary.

This administration hasn't even been in there a year, a year in which they've been under constant fire. I remain cautiously optimistic that at least some of the tyranny will be rolled back in the next 3 years.

Certainly while the core of obarrycare may still be with us a couple years from now, I'd bet that the individual mandate will be dead and buried which will defang that monstrosity.
 

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While those are fair criticisms, I like the direction we're heading in for a change. Freedom of expression has increased and political correctness has been dealt a blow...I think a fatal blow. That'd not have happened with a president shillary.

This administration hasn't even been in there a year, a year in which they've been under constant fire. I remain cautiously optimistic that at least some of the tyranny will be rolled back in the next 3 years.

Certainly while the core of obarrycare may still be with us a couple years from now, I'd bet that the individual mandate will be dead and buried which will defang that monstrosity.
I like the sound of the music too. Yes, I like the flute. But it's being played by the Pied Piper, therefore I will not follow. Why do you think Diebold elected him?
 

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Assumption, sir, not absolute fact.
Do you deny that more than half the states have electronic voting machines? Do you deny that the owners/manufacturers of electronic voting machines have the capability to sway elections as they please?
 

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or don't have the nutz to vote what they propagate on the forum
Negative articles are posted because 99% of the lib/soc/dem/comm's don't/can't think for themselves, no original thoughts, just post what cnn, that phil rag, nbc etc...If it's anti Trump it's true. Remember, they're probably those who are dependent on the .g0v versus being able/willing to take charge of their own lives/futures.
Voted yes in the poll. Voted for Trump in real life. Had no intention of voting for a known traitor.

That being said -just because I voted for Trump doesn't mean I think he's some savior who rode in on a white horse to save the republic. I don't. And he ain't.

Do post some negative stuff about him but I do post good stuff also. Wouldn't be cool to be one sided.

Just going to have to wait and see how things shake out. Time will tell if he's good for the US or not.

As for anything anyone posts on here............I generally take it as a post on the internet and nothing more. Prefer to do my own research and think for myself. Far better off than getting upset over something that means squaduch in real life.
 

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Libtard SCOTUS appointments, TPP , open borders with 1000's of "refugees" , war with Russia and Iran , Sec of State Huma Abadean.......
Feel free to add to the Shit List.
Whatsherface would be stomping all over the 2nd Amendment and shoving single payer down our throats.



The show and the act and the entertainment and the bread and circuses are totally different, yes. But that's not what I focus on.
The question is, if you had to eat bread while attending a circus, would you prefer Trump as the ringleader or whatsherface?
 

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Tweets are "unfiltered" direct from the source. Media can't control it & he kicked their feet out with the "fake media" line.

8 years clinton, 8 years bushjr, 8 years obama, now Trump it's like a tennis game or a football game where they start on the 50 yard line & move a little one way then the other but they midfield line keeps moving closer to the communism goal and further from the freedom gold lines with the help of the uniparty & the sheeple think it matters.
 

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..I generally take it as a post on the internet and nothing more. Prefer to do my own research and think for myself.
except there is a great big ole internets out there,

and we don't have to have the tripe here,

some of us are only here because we want to escape that shit,

so bringing it here completely removes the purpose of visiting this place and renders it virtually useless
 

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Voted yes in the poll. Voted for Trump in real life. Had no intention of voting for a known traitor.

What does that say about the ones who did vote for said traitor?

That being said -just because I voted for Trump doesn't mean I think he's some savior who rode in on a white horse to save the republic. I don't. And he ain't.

I agree with the first part, time will tell on the second.

Do post some negative stuff about him but I do post good stuff also. Wouldn't be cool to be one sided.

Nothing wrong with holding his feet to the fire as long as the posts are true.

Just going to have to wait and see how things shake out. Time will tell if he's good for the US or not.

I believe he's already been great for the US. SCOTUS appointment was fantastic.

As for anything anyone posts on here............I generally take it as a post on the internet and nothing more. Prefer to do my own research and think for myself. Far better off than getting upset over something that means squaduch in real life.
 

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except there is a great big ole internets out there,

and we don't have to have the tripe here,

some of us are only here because we want to escape that shit,

so bringing it here completely removes the purpose of visiting this place and renders it virtually useless
Do you want people to stop posting any thing that is derogatory about Trump?
 

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Do you deny that more than half the states have electronic voting machines? Do you deny that the owners/manufacturers of electronic voting machines have the capability to sway elections as they please?
Do not deny that there is immense vote fraud. Do not deny that the O/M of said voting machines could rig the machines. I'm just saying that, although it's a possibility, maybe even a probability, there isn't absolute proof it's happening that way. I worry more about partisan leftists at the precinct level that "fraud out" the vote in their areas to increase the vote count for their hero's. I see that as a proven reality.
 

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and certainly not the point,
Not trying to be funny but what is the point?

This is your house...........your rules.

If I or anyone else is posting something that is against the house rules or that you simply don't care for why not simply come straight out and say exactly what it is. That would simplify things and let people know what the problem is.

Once the problem is known the person / persons involved would have the option to stop posting stuff that offends you or simply move on.
 

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Do you deny that more than half the states have electronic voting machines? Do you deny that the owners/manufacturers of electronic voting machines have the capability to sway elections as they please?
If Diebold has that kind of sway, She must have really pissed someone off royally at some point....
 

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There is no simple answer to this question, just a belief.
Well of course there is no "answer", as no one can know for sure what we'd get if she had won.
...but based upon her record, it is my belief that she'd be in favor of banning guns, instituting a single payer system and nominating another Ginsburg type to the SC.

With Trump, we got someone who doesn't want to limit your gun Rights just because a lunatic does something stupid.
We got as good a SC pick as we could realistically hope for and we get someone who isn't pushing single payer healthcare insurance.

Based upon just these 3 things, what's your belief as to which one we're better off with?



Is there anyone who honestly believes those 3 things would not be occurring right now with her as POTUS? Lib SC, single payer and gun bans?
 

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Do not deny that there is immense vote fraud. Do not deny that the O/M of said voting machines could rig the machines. I'm just saying that, although it's a possibility, maybe even a probability, there isn't absolute proof it's happening that way. I worry more about partisan leftists at the precinct level that "fraud out" the vote in their areas to increase the vote count for their hero's. I see that as a proven reality.
Most things are either:
1) 100% certain.
2) Possible.
3) Probable.
Since practically nothing is #1, nearly anything is #2, doesn't #3 carry the most weight?


If Diebold has that kind of sway, She must have really pissed someone off royally at some point....
Probably simply a matter of expediency. 8 years right, 8 years left, 8 years right, 8 years left, what comes next? That's how you herd the animals.
 

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The Bankers won, isn't that what really matters? For the record, I believe we were screwed either way...
 

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Trump is slowly giving power of government back to the people. Clinton would have sold us into Third World status already. Plus watching her entitled face all over tv and the media gushing over her would make me use my Samsung plasma for target practice. Now I get to enjoy watching them all melt down.
 

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before the election the answer would have been yes...but now, there is no correct answer...so I refrain from voting
 

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Most things are either:
1) 100% certain.
2) Possible.
3) Probable.
Since practically nothing is #1, nearly anything is #2, doesn't #3 carry the most weight?......
I can't agree with that assessment. It's not necessarily a logical conclusion.
 

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Do not deny that there is immense vote fraud. Do not deny that the O/M of said voting machines could rig the machines. I'm just saying that, although it's a possibility, maybe even a probability, there isn't absolute proof it's happening that way.
Hard to outguess them. Was it an "R's" turn to be prez? People still pissed off on both sides. Only tptb know for sure. Maybe Trump won by 15%. Do you really think they would tell you?
I believe they did rig them....... just not enough because they never expected Trump to get any support. Someone had the tag line about they ignored the tea party and the deplorables are the result. I was in DC when the 1.6M showed up. Saw the joksters looking out the windows at us peasants. Swore right then if I ever got back it won't be to protest. We should have taken rope then. Lots of pretty trees.
 

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I broke trend and voted for Trump instead of 3rd party as I normally do whenever possible. I didn't feel great about it, but the alternative was obviously far worse in this 2 party uniparty charade. The supreme court nominations, economy, taxes, immigration, and at least slowing the creeping communism were the pivot points for me.

The real shame is that we are no closer to a viable 3rd party(ies). The Libertarian Party all but died when Dr. Murray Rothbard passed away; the Green Party was pretty legit until Jill Stein became a Burnie/Shillary crony, and the Constitution Party never seems to gain any ground despite decent leadership.
 

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Which would give me more joy...watching Trump destroy the Republican party or watching Hillary destroy the democrats. Tough call.
Just hope Trump doesn't destroy conservatism for a generation.
 

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I can't agree with that assessment. It's not necessarily a logical conclusion.
Please be specific. What is not a logical conclusion? You admitted earlier that it might be probable.
Is it not a probable conclusion that those who have the power and means to skew elections would do so? If not, why would they have attained those means and why would the media be so silent about it?
 

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Just hope Trump doesn't destroy conservatism for a generation.
If he does it will be because that was his goal in the first place.
 

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His goal in the first place was to be POTUS. And get back at BHO for the roasting.
We the people are the only ones getting roasted.
AP-Trump-Obama-Oval-02-jrl-161110_4x3_992.jpg
 

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Just hope Trump doesn't destroy conservatism for a generation.
maybe the opposite is happening?

maybe the true conservatives are finally standing up?

Maybe tramp is only the guy who opened the lamp and let the genie out?

From here on it is up to the conservatives to define who they are and what they are, rather than being defined by the 2 existing parties?

Tramp has already shown that he is neither,

Not a good thing or a bad thing dependent on your pov, but it certainly is a welcome change.
 

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We the people are the only ones getting roasted. View attachment 96094
That's the pic when DJT says, "Now get out and don't let the door hit you".
How would you rather the election for POTUS turned out? Forget about the candidates.
 

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Why do you think Diebold elected him?
Do not deny that there is immense vote fraud. Do not deny that the O/M of said voting machines could rig the machines. I'm just saying that, although it's a possibility, maybe even a probability, there isn't absolute proof it's happening that way. I worry more about partisan leftists at the precinct level that "fraud out" the vote in their areas to increase the vote count for their hero's. I see that as a proven reality.
The diebold rigging is real imo, but I think there are limits to what can be done to rig elections...at least what can be done without it being painfully obvious. Forced to speculate, I would say that the vote totals are rigged in select population centers throughout the nation. Since there are usually only a couple really large, densely populated areas in each State it's conceivable that padding totals in a couple counties could be enough to swing a State one way or another. This is, imo, why the reptile managed a large win in the popular vote, but the rural areas simply overwhelmed the population center votes this time around...at least in critical battleground States. We were told again and again this was going to be an election between two wildly unpopular candidates, but we were told that it was Trump that was moar despicable...and that was a lie.
We got as good a SC pick as we could realistically hope for and we get someone who isn't pushing single payer healthcare insurance.
That's a very good point, there's zero chance Hillary nominates a guy like Neil Gorsuch.