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Kim Foxx DID interfere in Jussie's case: Prosecutor told deputy the Empire star was a 'washed-up celeb' who was being 'overcharged', weeks after she recused herself, damning messages show
  • Foxx text Joseph Magats, the prosecutor she deferred to, on March 8 saying a grand jury indictment against Smollett was excessive
  • She had 'recused' herself over texts she shared with his family in February
  • Magats agreed with her and said he would look at 'deferred prosecution'
  • Two weeks later, the 16 grand jury charges against Smollett were suddenly dropped
  • The texts were revealed on Tuesday as Kim Foxx faced mounting calls to resign
  • Her office maintains it has not acted unethically and welcomes an independent investigation
State's Attorney Kim Foxx continued to meddle in the Jussie Smollett case after 'recusing' herself, calling him a 'washed up celeb who lied to cops' and telling the prosecutor she had handed the case over to that he was being overcharged just two weeks before the case was dropped, new documents have revealed.

In messages sent weeks after she recused herself from the case Foxx wrote to Joe Magats, the prosecutor who she had handed the case over to, and appeared to compare Smollett's charges to those leveled at another celebrity defendant, R. Kelly.

She said: 'Pedophile with 4 victims 10 counts.

'Washed up celeb who lied to cops, 16.'

She was referring to the 16 count grand jury indictment Smollett was hit with for allegedly staging a hoax attack on himself on January 29.

Foxx went on: 'On a case eligible for deferred prosecution I think it's indicative of something we should be looking at generally. Just because we can charge something doesn't mean we should.'

'Agreed', Magats replied.






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Kim Foxx sent these text messages to her deputy on March 8 after a grand jury indicted Smollett on 16 counts of lying to police. She had already 'recused' herself for speaking to Smollett's family but continued to interfere in the case by telling her deputies that the charges were excessive. The charges were dropped two weeks later
The case against Smollett, 36, was suddenly and unexpectedly dropped last month by Foxx's office in questionable circumstances and questions surrounding Foxx's alleged role in that decision have run rampant since.


Foxx said it was 'not who we want to be' to charge someone 'because we can' despite a grand jury deciding on the 16 Class 4 felonies
Magats said during an interview afterwards that he still believed Smollett was guilty. Foxx claimed it was never her decision to have the charges dropped in exchange for Smollett surrendering $10,000 in bail money or completing community service.

Now, she is facing mounting calls to resign.

Thousands of texts and emails about the case were made public by State's Attorney Kim Foxx's office Tuesday as criticism of her handling of the case grew.

They were given to The Chicago Tribune as part of an information request.

They reveal how a group of staff fretted over the media coverage of the case, routinely sharing news articles with one another in a group called 'Foxxhole'.

Foxx 'recused' herself from the case after it emerged she had exchanged text messages with a member Smollett's family in the days after the incident. She tried, at their request, to get the case handed over to the FBI but failed.



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Smollett was arrested in February for allegedly lying about the attack. Police say he paid Abel and Ola Osundairo to attack him and that he thought he could use it as leverage to get a raise on Empire, a claim he denies


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Other texts, that were revealed on Tuesday night, show the staff exchanging messages in a group called 'Foxxhole' where they fretted over the media coverage of the case


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When Smollett was arrested on February 21, the prosecutors said it was a 'complete shock'. They then accused the police department of 'leaking' to the press and shared articles they thought had come from inside the force
TIMELINE OF SMOLLETT CASE AND FOXX'S RECUSAL
January 29: Smollett reports attack to police
February 2: Kim Foxx communicates with Tina Tchen, on behalf of Smollett family, and Smollett's relatives
February 20: Foxx announces she is recusing herself
February 21: Smollett is arrested
March 8: Grand jury indicts Smollett on 16 Class 4 felonies carrying a 48 year prison sentence
Foxx texts Magats, the deputy she said she referred to, telling him it was excessive.
March 26: Charges suddenly dropped after Smollett completes community service and pays $10,000 fine

While she announced at the time that she was recusing herself, she has since said she meant it in a 'colloquial' sense rather than a 'legal sense' and that it was more an informal decision to 'step away from the decision making' rather than remove herself entirely from it.

In messages sent two weeks before that decision Foxx, who has since faced repeated calls to resign over her handling of the case, writes: 'Sooo......I'm recused, but when people accuse us of overcharging cases...16 counts on a class 4 becomes exhibit A.

She goes on: 'Pedophile with 4 victims 10 counts. Washed up celeb who lied to cops, 16.'

Magats replies: 'Yes. I can see where that can be seen as excessive.'

Further messages show Foxx replies 'yeah....it's not who we want to be' in response to a message from her colleague Magats saying he'll take a 'hard look' at how we charge the cases.

Magats writes: 'I'll get with Risa and Jim. With him taking over we can take a hard look at how we charge the cases and get it to something that covers what needs to be covered without being excessive and ultimately pointless.'

Risa is thought to be prosecutor Risa Lanier, it is not known who Jim refers to.



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After the charges were dropped, the office staff started receiving inquiries from the press demanding answers. Keira Ellis, one of the communications team, told colleagues: 'Good speed all of you'
In a statement to DailyMail.com, Foxx said: 'After the indictment became public, I reached out to Joe to discuss reviewing office policies to assure consistencies in our charging and our use of appropriate charging authority.

'I was elected to bring criminal justice reform and that includes intentionality, consistency, and discretion. I will continue to uphold these guiding principles.'

Other messages show how the office struggled to 'anticipate the magnitude of the response' to their decision.

The office released nearly 200 pages of screenshots of texts and more than 3,600 pages of emails Tuesday.

In one assistant State's Attorney Risa Lanier texted Magats: 'Just wish I could have anticipated the magnitude of this response and planned a bit better!'

Magats replied: 'There's really no planning for this. It's the right decision.'

Lanier agreed, responding: 'I agree and absolutely stand by the decision made.'

Mayor Rahm Emanuel and the Chicago Police Department's Superintendent Eddie Johnson both expressed their fury when her office decided to drop the case.

And messages appear to show the prosecutors' office only told the Chicago police the charges had been dropped as journalists were already in the courtroom.

Foxx messaged Magats to say: 'Eddie just called. (He) needed to know how to answer questions from press. He seemed satisfied with the explanation.'
 

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Breaking: Kim Foxx’s chief ethics officer April Perry has resigned.
Kim Foxx’s Director of Conviction Integrity Unit, Mark Rotert, has also resigned.
twitter.com/MattFinnFNC/status/1119046780560248833
 

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Breaking: Kim Foxx’s chief ethics officer April Perry has resigned.
Kim Foxx’s Director of Conviction Integrity Unit, Mark Rotert, has also resigned.
twitter.com/MattFinnFNC/status/1119046780560248833
I bet she wishes now that she'd have just prosecuted him instead of working to dismiss all charges.

She could have even combined all of them into one charge, but still got a conviction and none of this would be an issue. I don't think anyone expected him to be given a year in jail for each count. Ie: 16 years. I think everyone would agree that'd be excessive.
....but at least community service, probation, a big fine, etc etc. Something to cause him to realize that what he did was wrong. Instead he's out talkin' it up how he's innocent.
 

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Kim Foxx's chief spokeswoman suddenly departs amid fallout over handling of Jussie Smollett's prosecution
Megan Crepeau Chicago Tribune

Cook County State's Attorney Kim Foxx, shown in January 2019, has requested an investigation of her office's handling of the Smollett case by the county's inspector general and announced April 19 that she would have no further comment on it until that investigation is completed. (Brian Cassella/Chicago Tribune)

Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx’s chief spokeswoman has left her post amid the fallout over the office’s abrupt dismissal of all charges against “Empire” actor Jussie Smollett.

The sudden departure comes as a document dump earlier this week revealed that the office was largely caught flat-footed by the massive negative response to the stunning reversal to let Smollett walk despite allegedly staging an attack on himself.

Office spokeswoman Tandra Simonton confirmed that Kiera Ellis, who held the title of director of external affairs, was no longer with the office. Simonton declined to elaborate, including on whether Ellis had been fired or when she left.

Ellis, who joined the office in October, had been on the job and answering text messages from a Tribune reporter as recently as Thursday. But calls to her Friday went unanswered.

Shortly before 5 p.m., however, she sent an email addressed to colleagues with the subject line “Thank you and let’s stay in touch!”

“Working with Kim and the State’s Attorney’s Office was the opportunity of a lifetime,” Ellis wrote. “It has been an absolute honor to serve the people of Cook County. I’ve left to pursue another exciting opportunity, which I will share with you soon.”

Ellis’ departure comes as two other high-level Foxx deputies submitted their separate resignations, both effective May 3.

April Perry, a former federal prosecutor who was brought on as Foxx’s chief ethics officer, is taking a job as general counsel for a tech startup,according to an internal email from Foxx obtained by the Chicago Tribune.

Mark Rotert, a longtime criminal defense lawyer who held federal and state posts before that, acknowledged in a telephone interview that he is stepping down after almost two years leading the office’s Conviction Integrity Unit, which reviews alleged wrongful convictions.

As Foxx’s chief spokeswoman, Ellis handled much of the public relations response after the dismissal of all 16 felony charges against Smollett at an unannounced court hearing last month sparked widespread controversy and condemnation.

What happened? A timeline of the Jussie Smollett case »

Texts released Tuesday night to the Tribune in response to a public records request show that both prosecutors and the communications team, including Ellis, were caught by surprise by the highly negative reaction. The office scrambled to coordinate its messaging and futilely tried to tamp down the heated controversy.

“Just wish I could have anticipated the magnitude of this response and planned a bit better!” Assistant State’s Attorney Risa Lanier, the lead prosecutor on the high-profile case, texted Joseph Magats, Foxx’s first assistant, hours after the charges were dropped.

“There’s really no planning for this,” Magats responded. “It’s the right decision.”

“I agree and absolutely stand by the decision made,” Lanier replied.

In addition, it appeared the prosecutor’s office notified Chicago police only moments before the charges were dropped as reporters were already gathering in the courtroom — only after being tipped off by a publicist for Smollett’s legal team.

“It appears as if Jussie’s press person may have notified the press,” Lanier texted three spokespeople on the morning the case was dismissed.

A short time later, Ellis texted back to say she had notified a Police Department spokesman who would tell Superintendent Eddie Johnson.

About 10 minutes later, Foxx texted Magats: “Eddie just called. (He) needed to know how to answer questions from press.”

Foxx said she told Johnson that Smollett’s charges were dismissed since he completed community service and gave his bond money — $10,000 — to the city.

“He seemed satisfied with the explanation,” Foxx told Magats.

However, Johnson and Mayor Rahm Emanuel held a news conference that morning slamming the decision — “a whitewash of justice,” the mayor said bluntly.

Foxx withdrew herself from the case in February after she had been in contact with one of Smollett’s relatives early during the investigation. But Foxx’s office has since said she removed herself from the case only informally, since an actual recusal would have required her entire office to step aside and request the appointment of a special prosecutor.

Smollett found himself in an international media firestorm after he reported being the victim of a Jan. 29 attack by two people who shouted slurs, hit him and wrapped a noose around his neck. Police initially treated the incident as a hate crime, but their focus turned to Smollett after two brothers alleged to have been his attackers told detectives that Smollett had paid them $3,500 to stage the attack, with a promise of an additional $500 later.

The move to drop charges has provoked fierce criticism. Emanuel’s administration has sued to try to force Smollett to reimburse Chicago for the more than $130,000 in overtime police expenses spent investigating the alleged hoax, even though the charges were dropped.

Foxx has faced pressure to explain in more detail why Smollett’s prosecution of was abandoned just a few weeks after the charges were brought. In an op-ed in the Tribune, she backed off her office’s initial stance that the case was strong, writing that prosecutors were uncertain of a conviction, but she offered no specifics.

At her request, Cook County Inspector General Patrick Blanchard agreed last week to investigate the office’s handling of the Smollett case.

On Friday, Foxx issued a statement saying she would not be commenting further on the Smollett case until after Blanchard completed his review.

Foxx, who beat incumbent Anita Alvarez by bashing her handling of the Laquan McDonald fatal police shooting, appointed several former federal prosecutors to high-level posts after assuming office in late 2016.

Perry’s upcoming departure will mark the third of the former federal prosecutors to leave Foxx’s office in the past year.

Rotert, himself a federal prosecutor years ago, warned against drawing any conclusions from those departures, however, saying all three left for varying reasons. He also noted that it is common for senior-level attorneys in government offices to rotate out after a few years.

Simonton, the office’s remaining spokeswoman, said the departures of both Rotert and Perry had nothing to do with the Smollett case.

Foxx has said she consulted with Perry on how to proceed after being in contact with one of Smollett’s relatives in the early phases of the investigation. Perry wrote the memo to staffers in February saying Foxx had “recused” herself from the Smollett matter.

The Conviction Integrity Unit, led by Rotert since the summer of 2017, is purposely kept separate from the office’s everyday matters.

Rotert said he has been planning for months to retire this spring. His only involvement in the Smollett case came recently when he acted as a liaison between the office and the county inspector general’s office after Foxx requested the independent review.

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Deputies for Kim Foxx Resign Over Her Handling of Jussie Smollett Case


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Two top prosecutors in the office of Chicago State’s Attorney Kim Foxx have resigned over the handlingof the Jussie Smollett case, the New York Postreports.

April Perry, Foxx’s ethics officer, submitted her resignation letter this week. It is also reported that one of Foxx’s assistants, Mark Rotert, submitted his resignation in protest on the day that 16 felony charges against the Empire actor were dropped.

Foxx recused herself from the case, but later weighed in to explain why the charges had been dropped. She said her recusal was “informal” and not in a “legal sense.”
 

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Jussie Smollett Attorney's Sued For Defamation By Osundairo Brothers


Abel and Ola Osundairo, the brothers accused of attacking Jussie Smollett in January — then later accused of helping him stage the alleged hate crime hoax — have filed a defamation lawsuit against the "Empire" star's attorneys, Tina Glandian and Mark Geragos, and Geragos' firm, Fox News has learned. The suit alleges that Geragos and his firm continued to say publicly in widely reported statements that the brothers "led a criminally homophobic, racist and violent attack against Mr. Smollett," even though they knew that wasn't true.


 

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Almost makes me want to donate to the brothers legal fund to help stop this shit!
 

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IMO,

Special, "star treatment" is the ONLY issue remaining.

The best part though, is that this will re-introduce all the intervening, intertwined players and plays, including:

[R]ENEGADE and spouse
Valerie Jarrett
Kamala Harris
Corey Booker
The anti-lynching bill
Other surprises TBA...

Like the college entrance cheating scandal:
This is the kind of hypocritical BS I have witnessed my whole life, and only now do I appear to glimpse some semblance of justice on the horizon.

Good times!

Judge rips @SAKimFoxx’s office 4 charging woman w/ filing a false report after #JussieSmollett “[She’s] not a movie star and she doesn’t have a high-priced lawyer. And this smells big time. I didn’t create this mess. Your office created this mess. It’s not right.”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6962061/Judge-rips-Kim-Foxxs-office-double-standard-Jussie-Smollet.html
 

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Smollett: Former prosecutor withdraws request for special prosecutor; Separate request by former judge continues


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A former Cook County assistant state’s attorney this morning withdrew his request for a special prosecutor to investigate the State’s Attorney’s handling of the Jussie Smollett case.

Saani Mohammed filed the request for a special prosecutor on April 4th, saying that the Smollett case was “plagued with irregularity.”

But this morning, Mohammed appeared briefly before Judge LeRoy Martin Jr., the presiding judge of the Criminal Division, to withdraw that petition. No written motion was in the court file this afternoon. Mohammed did not immediately respond to an emailed request for comment. Martin approved the motion to withdraw.

One day after Mohammed’s case was filed, former Illinois Appellate Court Judge Sheila O’Brien filed her own motion seeking a special prosecutor to look into the Smollett matter.

Both petitions asked for a special prosecutor to look into the conduct of Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx and her underlings. Mohammed and O’Brien both wanted the special prosecutor to consider recharging Smollett with faking the hate crime.

O’Brien’s petition will be before Martin again on Thursday. The former judge has subpoenaed Foxx and Joseph Magats, the top deputy who took over the Smollett case when Foxx “colloquially” recused herself, to appear at the hearing. O'Brien wants them to produce the criminal case’s original documents to ensure “that they have not been altered or destroyed and will not be destroyed throughout this case.”

Smollett has also been asked to appear on Thursday.
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See all of our Jussie Smollett coverage here.
 

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Jussie Smollett Court Records To Be Unsealed, Judge Rules "No Right To Privacy"

A judge in Chicago ordered the file in Jussie Smollett's criminal case unsealed Thursday, saying the actor's actions did not appear to be those of someone seeking to maintain his privacy.

As a reminder, the "Empire" actor had been charged with 16 counts alleging he lied to police when reporting he'd been the victim of a racist, anti-gay attack in January. Police insist Smollett, who is black and gay, staged the incident because he was unhappy with his salary and wanted publicity.
Prosecutors dismissed all charges,
though, with little explanation on March 26.
Smollett's lawyers had argued that since the case was dropped, Smollett had "the right to be left alone."
Judge Steven G. Watkins of the Circuit Court of Cook County disagreed.
Apparently hoisted by his own self-promoted pitard; as The New York Times reports, in explaining his ruling, Judge Watkins wrote that Mr. Smollett’s request for privacy was not a good enough reason to keep the records sealed, considering that Mr. Smollett willingly spoke about the situation in detail on national television and in other venues.
“After the March 26 dismissal, he voluntarily stood in front of cameras from numerous news organizations in the courthouse lobby and spoke about the case,” Judge Watkins wrote.
“These are not the actions of a person seeking to maintain his privacy or simply be let alone.”
As AP reports, Natalie Spears, an attorney representing media organizations that wanted the file unsealed, applauded Watkins' decision Thursday.
"This is about transparency and trust in the system and we believe the public has a right to know what the government did and why," she said after the hearing.​
Speaking outside the courtroom on Thursday, Mr. Watson said that he was unsure whether he will appeal the judge’s decision and that he had to speak with Mr. Smollett before making any next steps.
 

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Combine the stories. Send HIM to Iran.
Put him on a flight with John Phillip Walker Lindh, The American Jihadist. I hear he is being released back into society even though he was still writing Anti-American letters while in the joint.
And some "Einstien" feel society will be safe with this PoS walking the streets of the USA.
:bombs 7: :bombs 8: :bomb 1:
 

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It's Not Over: Judge Approves Special Prosecutor For Jussie Smollett Case In Nautical Smackdown
A Chicago judge on Friday used a nautical analogy to approve a special prosecutor to review how Cook County State's Attorney Kim Foxx handled the Jussie Smollett case.



The "Empire" actor, who faked a hate crime in order to boost his career and denigrate Trump supporters, avoided prosecution after Foxx's office dropped all criminal charges against him in a dramatic 11th hour announcement in March. The actor forfeited $10,000 in bail and performed 16 hours of community service at Rev. Jesse Jackson's "Rainbow/Push" headquarters over two days.

Cook County Judge Michael P. Toobin wrote on Friday;


Jussie Smollett's case is truly unique among the countless prosecutions heard in this building. A case that purported to have been brought and supervised by a prosecutor serving in the stead of our duly elected State's attorney, who in fact was appointed to a fictitious office having no legal existence. It is also a case that deviated from the statutory mandate requiring the appointment of a special prosecutor in cases where the State's Attorney is recused. And finally, it is a case where based upon similar factual scenarios, resulting dispositions and judgments have been deemed void and held for naught.

Here, the ship of the State ventured from its protected harbor without the guiding hand of its captain. There was no master on the bridge to guide the ship as it floundered through uncharted waters. And it ultimately lost its bearings. As with that ship, in the case at hand:
  • There was no duly elected State's Attorney when Jussie Smollett was arrested;
  • There was no State's Attorney when Smollett was initially charged;
  • There was no State's Attorney when Smollett's case was presented to the grand jury, nor when he was indicted;
  • There was no State's Attorney when Smollett was arraigned and entered his plea of not guilty; and
  • There was no State's Attorney in the courtroom when the proceedings were nolle prossed (dismissed) -Judge Michael P. Toobin
As such, Toobin said that "Adherence to the long-standing principles discussed herein mandates that a special prosecutor be appointed to conduct an independent investigation of the actions of any person or office involved in all aspects of the case," adding that "if reasonable grounds exist to further prosecute Smollett, in the interest of justice the special prosecutor may take such action as may be appropriate to effectuate that result."

Controversy erupted in March when texts and emails released by the Cook County State's Attorney's Office revealed that Michelle Obama's former Chief of Staff, Tina Tchen, attempted to have the case transferred to the FBI from the Chicago Police.

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"Spoke to the Superintendent Johnson," Foxx emailed Tchen on Feb. 1, in reference to Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson. "I convinced him to Reach out to FBI to ask that they take over the investigation."

Foxx also texted with one of Smollett's relatives whose name was redacted from the text release, saying: "Spoke to the superintendent earlier, he made the ask ... Trying to figure out logistics. I’ll keep you posted."

Foxx said she recused herself from the case after having conversations with one of Smollett’s relatives before he was charged with disorderly conduct for allegedly faking a hate crime against himself.​
Foxx’s top deputy, First Assistant State’s Attorney Joseph Magats, took over the case, and prosecutors ended up dropping all charges a month after Smollett was arrested, after the “Empire” actor performed 16 hours of community service, and agreed to forfeit his $10,000 bail, but did not admit guilt.​
Hundreds of emails and text messages later released by Foxx’s office showed two weeks before the charges were dropped, Foxx texted her staff, dismissing him as a “washed-up celeb who lied to cops,” and telling them he was being charged too harshly. -CBS2 Chicago
Meanwhile, Smollett was kicked off of Empire, while Fox announced that the next season will be its last.
 

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Kind of getting tired of "Mistakes were made" defense strategies.

"Oooops we F'd up, broke the law. My bad. Won't do it again." walk aways....​

It's been the government SOP for far too long and I don't mean just Chitown.

In Smollett's case it was blatant racism and designed for a political purpose: Passing the lynching law - as if we have those going on all over the country...
 

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Where is the picture of JS with POTUS defacto Valerie Jarrett?

Produce that link, and then you can prove that Jussie was indeed aided by the uber-corrupt Bathhouse Barry and Buddies Boondoggle.

 

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Where is the picture of JS with POTUS defacto Valerie Jarrett?

Produce that link, and then you can prove that Jussie was indeed aided by the uber-corrupt Bathhouse Barry and Buddies Boondoggle.



You mean this one?




And this one?

 

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Where is the picture of JS with POTUS defacto Valerie Jarrett?

Produce that link, and then you can prove that Jussie was indeed aided by the uber-corrupt Bathhouse Barry and Buddies Boondoggle.
Imagine the good that could be accomplished with a single grenade in certain situations.
 

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Kind of getting tired of "Mistakes were made" defense strategies.

"Oooops we F'd up, broke the law. My bad. Won't do it again." walk aways....​

It's been the government SOP for far too long and I don't mean just Chitown.

In Smollett's case it was blatant racism and designed for a political purpose: Passing the lynching law - as if we have those going on all over the country...
100% agree. I'm not sure how voting can get us out of this. Justice simply does not seem to be in our grasp unless and until we act to move against this tyranny. That was the purpose of electing Trump and I suspect the invention of Q (take back our country without bloodshed) but, as we are seeing, that dream is also slipping away and we seem to be settling back into our old ways of an uncontrollable government led by a figurehead controlled by powers centralized in the middle east
 

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I looked high and low and for the life of me cannot find a straight answer. Maybe someone here can help:

All news stories seem to suggest that it's not over yet for smollett. Since the guy forfeited his $10,000 and performed 'community service', can they refile the same charges on the guy if they see the need to without running into double jeapardy type issues? They always initially file a bunch of charges knowing that some will never stick but hoping to convict for the major ones. This case was no exception and all were dropped. Are the serious charges off the table now and the only new charges they could file on the guy so peripheral and dubious that he would end up walking anyway?

Anybody have any idea?
 

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I looked high and low and for the life of me cannot find a straight answer. Maybe someone here can help:

All news stories seem to suggest that it's not over yet for smollett. Since the guy forfeited his $10,000 and performed 'community service', can they refile the same charges on the guy if they see the need to without running into double jeapardy type issues? They always initially file a bunch of charges knowing that some will never stick but hoping to convict for the major ones. This case was no exception and all were dropped. Are the serious charges off the table now and the only new charges they could file on the guy so peripheral and dubious that he would end up walking anyway?

Anybody have any idea?
DF --

The legal green light comes from the fact that the racist fucks used US Mail means they broke FEDERAL law. That means the Feds can/will charge the SOB.

There's more:

Cook County Judge Michael P. Toobin wrote on Friday;


Jussie Smollett's case is truly unique among the countless prosecutions heard in this building. A case that purported to have been brought and supervised by a prosecutor serving in the stead of our duly elected State's attorney, who in fact was appointed to a fictitious office having no legal existence. It is also a case that deviated from the statutory mandate requiring the appointment of a special prosecutor in cases where the State's Attorney is recused. And finally, it is a case where based upon similar factual scenarios, resulting dispositions and judgments have been deemed void and held for naught.

Here, the ship of the State ventured from its protected harbor without the guiding hand of its captain. There was no master on the bridge to guide the ship as it floundered through uncharted waters. And it ultimately lost its bearings. As with that ship, in the case at hand:
  • There was no duly elected State's Attorney when Jussie Smollett was arrested;
  • There was no State's Attorney when Smollett was initially charged;
  • There was no State's Attorney when Smollett's case was presented to the grand jury, nor when he was indicted;
  • There was no State's Attorney when Smollett was arraigned and entered his plea of not guilty; and
  • There was no State's Attorney in the courtroom when the proceedings were nolle prossed (dismissed) -Judge Michael P. Toobin
As such, Toobin said that "Adherence to the long-standing principles discussed herein mandates that a special prosecutor be appointed to conduct an independent investigation of the actions of any person or office involved in all aspects of the case," adding that "if reasonable grounds exist to further prosecute Smollett, in the interest of justice the special prosecutor may take such action as may be appropriate to effectuate that result."
 

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This is typical for Chicago politics.

Corrupt to the core. They thought they'd massage the media and it would all go by the wayside over time.

Memories being what they are, folks would have 'forgotten' all about it...

Maybe law and order will make a comeback in this case of blatant tomfoolery....?

You'd have to be Stevie Wonder to not 'see' it....
 

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DF --

The legal green light comes from the fact that the racist fucks used US Mail means they broke FEDERAL law. That means the Feds can/will charge the SOB.

There's more:

Cook County Judge Michael P. Toobin wrote on Friday;


Jussie Smollett's case is truly unique among the countless prosecutions heard in this building. A case that purported to have been brought and supervised by a prosecutor serving in the stead of our duly elected State's attorney, who in fact was appointed to a fictitious office having no legal existence. It is also a case that deviated from the statutory mandate requiring the appointment of a special prosecutor in cases where the State's Attorney is recused. And finally, it is a case where based upon similar factual scenarios, resulting dispositions and judgments have been deemed void and held for naught.

Here, the ship of the State ventured from its protected harbor without the guiding hand of its captain. There was no master on the bridge to guide the ship as it floundered through uncharted waters. And it ultimately lost its bearings. As with that ship, in the case at hand:
  • There was no duly elected State's Attorney when Jussie Smollett was arrested;
  • There was no State's Attorney when Smollett was initially charged;
  • There was no State's Attorney when Smollett's case was presented to the grand jury, nor when he was indicted;
  • There was no State's Attorney when Smollett was arraigned and entered his plea of not guilty; and
  • There was no State's Attorney in the courtroom when the proceedings were nolle prossed (dismissed) -Judge Michael P. Toobin
As such, Toobin said that "Adherence to the long-standing principles discussed herein mandates that a special prosecutor be appointed to conduct an independent investigation of the actions of any person or office involved in all aspects of the case," adding that "if reasonable grounds exist to further prosecute Smollett, in the interest of justice the special prosecutor may take such action as may be appropriate to effectuate that result."
Yep, saw all that but my question remains. Any of the charges that they thought would stick- and then some- were already filed and then dropped. My question is whether or not those same charges can be refiled based on the shenanigans from the DAs office and considering that they have already been dismissed. I don't know. My fear is that they would have to come up with some new, peripheral BS misdemeanor charges that won't stick and the bitch will skate again.

As to the federal charges of mail fraud... Yeah those were always on the table. Not holding my breath though. I'd be astonished if the feds waded out into the middle of this one.
 

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Let me finish that sentence --->

funny!