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Supreme Court Blocks Biden's OSHA Vaxx Mandate

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I look for Private and Underground type black market health care to come into it's own.

It's already starting in some places, but that gives me another idea. Something I might just have to look into.
 

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White House Calls on Businesses to Ignore Supreme Court Decision on Vaccination and Force the Vaccine Mandate Regardless of Constitutional Merit​


January 13, 2022 | Sundance | 598 Comments

Not to be deterred by such pesky inconveniences as a Supreme Court decision, immediately after the high court ruled the vaccine mandate was unconstitutional federal overreach – the White House told employers to enforce the vaccine mandate anyway.

White House Spokesperson Jennifer Psaki said the Biden administration would “not be deterred” by the Supreme Court decision, and all employers should immediately continue to “initiate vaccination requirements.” WATCH:


I’ve got a better idea, let’s all just ignore the whitehouse
 

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must fight it at all levels. the communists are using this to purge the best among us, out of the miltary, hcare, etc

these orgs will be 99 percent communists and communist dupes
 

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I think this is going to push the system towards to the concierge model. My primary care physician already had a feel out discussion about it,

Blue cross can kiss our ass

I’d pay the Dr $/ month directly plus cost of service when used
I’d self insure the catastrophic risk, but others might prefer to buy a catastrophic plan (in case need a heart bypass or something pricy). Buy scripts by mail order

Dump the middle man and hospital network affiliation and all their rules, cost shifting nonsense, and politically influenced medicine.

There’s also a large barter potential in a good community. Men that shake hands a trust each other. Doctors need services and goods I and others can help with.

The gooberment is worthless and actually has a net negative value in my personal opinion. Let them tryanize the welfare class that relies on them, Ive got no use for them.
 

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The scotus ruling only said that OSHA cannot make the rule they did...it did not stop private businesses from enforcing their own vaccine mandate as a condition of employment.
True and as it should be. If a business wants to limit who it serves, it is more than welcome to do it.
 

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True and as it should be. If a business wants to limit who it serves, it is more than welcome to do it.
There are laws in place that make that difficult at best, legally liable at worst
 

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it did not stop private businesses from enforcing their own vaccine mandate as a condition of employment.
I am wondering if discrimination based on "medical condition" could be a legal pushback.

Would it be legal for a business to require all employees to take (for example) iodine supplements or be fired?
 

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Does mean Federal Contractors and Military are off the hook?
Not as I understand it.

What was overturned, was the OSHA mandate...to be imposed by OSHA on places where neither employer nor employees wanted it. "Safety" requirement - like hardhats. So they were asserting.

The military...for lack of a better model, the "work" for the government. Government is their employer...in fact, has temporary (for the enlistment) total control over them. The military is the only place where your employer can order you to do something that's certainly lethal; or can put you into an extralegal court (court-martial) and sentence you to death. And then IMPOSE that death sentence on you. You don't see that at a GM plant.

Federal contractors take money from the government, and so have to structure their workforce as the government orders. That can be wage requirements; that can be work conditions; and now, I guess, they can make the Jab a stipulation for keeping a contract.
 

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I think this is going to push the system towards to the concierge model. My primary care physician already had a feel out discussion about it,

Blue cross can kiss our ass

I’d pay the Dr $/ month directly plus cost of service when used
I’d self insure the catastrophic risk, but others might prefer to buy a catastrophic plan (in case need a heart bypass or something pricy). Buy scripts by mail order

Dump the middle man and hospital network affiliation and all their rules, cost shifting nonsense, and politically influenced medicine.

There’s also a large barter potential in a good community. Men that shake hands a trust each other. Doctors need services and goods I and others can help with.

The gooberment is worthless and actually has a net negative value in my personal opinion. Let them tryanize the welfare class that relies on them, Ive got no use for them.
That's my feeling, too; although I'm not close enough to really get a sense on it.

This may be the thing that finally does put the government out of the healthcare biz. The goverment-affiliated docs dying from The Jab; and once the unJabbed physicians get something going, they're going to try to keep it.

The concierge model, or no-insurance model, is a growth one. There are no such clinics here, where government workers and retirees...and railroaders...are the prevalent population; but when I was living in Wisconsin, a doc had just opened a no-insurance menu-priced clinic. Everything was cash on the day of service. He had a chiropractor with an ultrasound machine; a veternarian clinic with an X-ray machine; other specialists who would give him a low price.

I had a Medical-Savings-Account insurance setup, so I used him. At first it was him and one nurse/clerk. He grew and moved to a big office; I was in the area in 2019 and had a medical issue. He had five doctors under him and was booked up two weeks ahead. I had to go to a conventional urgent-care office, and pay 5x.

It's probably a better way to go, getting Hussein Kair and CDC out of their limits and judgments. The only thing I'd be afraid of, is State Medical Boards - some of whom have been bought by Big Pharma; witness how they're threatening docs who prescribe ivermectin.
 

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The scotus ruling only said that OSHA cannot make the rule they did...it did not stop private businesses from enforcing their own vaccine mandate as a condition of employment.

Over in the vaccine thread, Goldhedge just posted that General Electric withdrew their vaccination policy for employees as a result of the SCOTUS ruling. So, while I agree with you that woke companies will try to continue to poison their workers, other companies are already bending to common sense.

Yes, this is a conspiracy, and yes there is an enormous amount of money funding the chaos, BUT, the people of the world aren't as stupid or evil as Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, and the rest of that gaggle had hoped for.
 
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I can't see how SCOTUS can make that ruling without violating equal protection under the law statutes. This decision flies directly in the face of that! Agree SCOTUS is as corrupt as the 2020 election was
Discrimination is out the window ! Unless you are a whitey ! :hunt::judge
 

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it did not stop private businesses from enforcing their own vaccine mandate as a condition of employment.

really important point,

so if one is of the opinion that .corp and .gov are separate entities, and that .corp is not part of the public service sector, are instead part of the private economy (ie not .gov)

(don't confuse public company as being public service like .gov)

then one can argue that this is their choice, and the market decides if it is right or wrong

a company should be able to choose not to bake cakes for the transgender community if they don't want to,
a company should be able to require a mask at work
if they want to require vax as a condition of employment, then they should be able to do so, and the employees then have their
choice to make

then the employees and the customers can choose accordingly. If they disagree, they tell the company to pound sand and walk,

yet, here comes the rub. As stated so many times, all that is depends on access to capital. Over time there has been a massive consolidation of money/power/companies therein not that many companies are controlling what happens in a economy.

you want to purchase a appliance, they are offered by x,y, and z companies. All 3 companies choose the same communist path, so while there is a appearance of choice, there really is no choice.

what is spoke of is the lack of choice, the lack of freedom, the lack of being able to use your dollars to vote in day to day business,

where at one time, we could choose to do business with someone or not, that choice continues to disappear.

leading us to ask, with what we know, should they be able to operate on both sides of the aisle ie private and public?
should they be able to require vax mandates, when the consumer and the employees do not have the ability to choose?

for instance, a airline pilot stats 'no mas', and is booted for it. The rub is, he gets blacklisted as they are all following the same forced narrative from .corp and .gov. It is material harm to this person, as now they are crop dusting using tin cans vs flying a 747.
 

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yet, here comes the rub. As stated so many times, all that is depends on access to capital. Over time there has been a massive consolidation of money/power/companies therein not that many companies are controlling what happens in a economy.

you want to purchase a appliance, they are offered by x,y, and z companies. All 3 companies choose the same communist path, so while there is a appearance of choice, there really is no choice.

what is spoke of is the lack of choice, the lack of freedom, the lack of being able to use your dollars to vote in day to day business,

where at one time, we could choose to do business with someone or not, that choice continues to disappear.

leading us to ask, with what we know, should they be able to operate on both sides of the aisle ie private and public?
should they be able to require vax mandates, when the consumer and the employees do not have the ability to choose?

The plandemic has significantly altered my traditional thinking on this. It has become apparent to me that the people who own major corporations are acting as defacto governments, and violating people's rights. In addition to limiting product choice, this includes censorship of information, unconstitutional spying by "private" organizations, as well as the big one; poisonous injections.
 

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Over in the vaccine thread, Goldhedge just posted that General Electric withdrew their vaccination policy for employees as a result of the SCOTUS ruling. So, while I agree with you that woke companies will try to continue to poison their workers, other companies are already bending to common sense.
IMHO, not common sense. It's Them-vs-Us.

GE makes little, today. Like most American corporations. They make jet engines; they DROP-SHIP some Chinese crap. Their lightbulb plants have long been closed...now, of course, it's all LEDs so what GE had was technologically obsolete. They sold their locomotive plant and related patents...they're still made/sold under the GE name but the whole thing is owned by Webtec, the descendant of Westinghouse Air Brake Company.

Did you know, GE has been classified as a bank? Jeff Immelt did this to get some of that TARP action back in 2008. But that's a big part of their money-stream, now...FINANCIAL engineering, as opposed to engineering actual products.

So, they protected their CTL-P clerks and the C-Suite people and their lackeys. The poison is not for them; it's for Little People.
 

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really important point,

so if one is of the opinion that .corp and .gov are separate entities, and that .corp is not part of the public service sector, are instead part of the private economy (ie not .gov)

(don't confuse public company as being public service like .gov)

then one can argue that this is their choice, and the market decides if it is right or wrong

a company should be able to choose not to bake cakes for the transgender community if they don't want to,
a company should be able to require a mask at work
if they want to require vax as a condition of employment, then they should be able to do so, and the employees then have their
choice to make

then the employees and the customers can choose accordingly. If they disagree, they tell the company to pound sand and walk,

yet, here comes the rub. As stated so many times, all that is depends on access to capital. Over time there has been a massive consolidation of money/power/companies therein not that many companies are controlling what happens in a economy.

you want to purchase a appliance, they are offered by x,y, and z companies. All 3 companies choose the same communist path, so while there is a appearance of choice, there really is no choice.

what is spoke of is the lack of choice, the lack of freedom, the lack of being able to use your dollars to vote in day to day business,

where at one time, we could choose to do business with someone or not, that choice continues to disappear.

leading us to ask, with what we know, should they be able to operate on both sides of the aisle ie private and public?
should they be able to require vax mandates, when the consumer and the employees do not have the ability to choose?

for instance, a airline pilot stats 'no mas', and is booted for it. The rub is, he gets blacklisted as they are all following the same forced narrative from .corp and .gov. It is material harm to this person, as now they are crop dusting using tin cans vs flying a 747.

this is really the point

id just add that I’m seeing a strong trend toward what I’ll term “forced values” in the market

if you’re a federal contractor you now have to comply with CFR’s that require promotion and affirmative action of gender identity, transgender confusion, and other value bending concepts

AND

they now have language that you have to force this on your suppliers

this Is not just fed contractors I’m seeing it in large (previously) respected charities

im just not taking those orders but that’s not a long term strategy to survive if it keeps spreading.
 

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IMHO, not common sense. It's Them-vs-Us.

GE makes little, today. Like most American corporations. They make jet engines; they DROP-SHIP some Chinese crap. Their lightbulb plants have long been closed...now, of course, it's all LEDs so what GE had was technologically obsolete. They sold their locomotive plant and related patents...they're still made/sold under the GE name but the whole thing is owned by Webtec, the descendant of Westinghouse Air Brake Company.

Did you know, GE has been classified as a bank? Jeff Immelt did this to get some of that TARP action back in 2008. But that's a big part of their money-stream, now...FINANCIAL engineering, as opposed to engineering actual products.

So, they protected their CTL-P clerks and the C-Suite people and their lackeys. The poison is not for them; it's for Little People.

In its heyday, GM was a bank too. GMAC was a top ten lender/creditor.
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Kavanaugh? He wrote parts of the Patriot Act. In other words, he's a traitor. Trump was controlled opposition and did not pick true conservatives.

picking scotus criminals is above the president's pay grade. that's done by the pigmen lurking in the shadows

see eustace mullins' book - a writ for martyrs
 
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In its heyday, GM was a bank too. GMAC was a top ten lender/creditor.
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Yabbut, back then, being a bank meant making loans. And usually, accepting deposits.

Today it means, getting first dibs on the New Money from the Fed. Seigniorage - first in line, benefiting first, and most, from the currency-debasement. Later recipients of that New Money will find it devalued. Not the dukes of the Bourbon Court, and not the Banksters of America today.