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BREAKING NEWS

CDC: Vaccinated people can gather, dine outdoors without masks​

BY AUSTIN LANDIS WASHINGTON, D.C.
UPDATED 1:05 PM ET APR. 27, 2021 PUBLISHED 12:17 PM ET APR. 27, 2021


Vaccinated Americans don’t have to wear a mask when they dine outdoors and gather with unvaccinated people outside, according to new Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidance published Tuesday.
According to the new guidelines, fully vaccinated people can unmask for the following:
  • Walking, running, hiking or biking outdoors alone or with members of your household
  • Attending a small outdoor gathering with fully vaccinated family and friends
  • Attending a small outdoor gathering with a mixture of fully vaccinated and unvaccinated people
  • Dining at an outdoor restaurant with friends from multiple households
“I hope this message is encouraging for you,” CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said in a briefing with health officials. “It shows just how powerful these vaccines are in our efforts to end this pandemic and why we are asking everyone to roll up their sleeves and get vaccinated.”
The CDC still recommends that vaccinated people avoid or wear a mask for large or crowded outdoor gatherings. The agency also recommends that everyone continue to wear a mask indoors, such as when at a restaurant, a hair salon, a movie theater or an indoor gathering of multiple households.
Previously, the CDC announced that vaccinated people could gather indoors with others who had gotten the shot and with unvaccinated people from a single household — both without wearing masks.
The new guidance expands the kind of outdoor activities that vaccinated people can do without a mask, specifically adding eating and gathering outside with unvaccinated people to the list.
More than half of U.S. adults — or about 141 million people — have gotten at least one shot of the vaccine, according to data from the CDC. Nearly 30% of the country’s population is fully vaccinated.
This week, the U.S. will distribute about 30 million doses of vaccine to states, tribes and territories, health officials said in a Tuesday briefing.
"We reminded governors that the federal government stands ready to help states put shots in the arms as quickly as possible," White House COVID-19 advisor Andy Slavitt said Tuesday. "We continue to conduct one-on-one sessions with their teams each day, throughout the week."
The Biden administration has secured enough doses of vaccine for all U.S. adults by the end of May.
Federal health officials lifted the pause on use of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine last week, which adds to the number of available doses throughout the country. About 10 million J&J shots have been distributed but yet not administered, according to the CDC.
On Tuesday, the CDC also released a chart of recommended activities for both unvaccinated and vaccinated people, including the agency's new guidelines on outdoor activities.

Memo to CDC... Hey I can too... Always have, always will. Stick that in your syringe and smoke it.
 

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Lol...who the fuck walks/runs/hikes/bikes outdoors alone with a mask on? Hint: (rhymes with sleep)
I passed by the high school on the way home and the guys on the track team were long distance running with masks on. WTF...its 80 degrees out. Like I said its all a bad dream.
 

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Your granddaughter will be much better off home schooled or taking private lessons. Showing up to public school for indoctrination is no way to seek an education
Im looking into private school but Im afraid we will run into vaccination issues at most of them by next year.
 

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its not really about what others think for us. Its about our jobs and the possibility my granddaughter will not be able to go to school. That's coming next. Honestly its like everyday is a bad dream now. What new bullsh@t will the public eagerly line up for today?
I completely get that. I feel for you--It's a scary thing when others' stupidity and groupthink starts threatening your livelihood. It hasn't hit home for me, yet. I work for a fairly small family-owned business. There's still a few of us holdouts here and I don't think they will try to require anything. My wife is a teacher at a semi-rural school. So far so good, but hard to predict where this is all going. If they start requiring it for kids to go to school we're gonna have some tough choices to make.
 

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Im looking into private school but Im afraid we will run into vaccination issues at most of them by next year.

I think they need accreditation from the state just as well, meaning they are likely regulated similar to public schools.

It's turning into hell on earth.
 

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Your granddaughter will be much better off home schooled or taking private lessons. Showing up to public school for indoctrination is no way to seek an education
I struggle some with the home school decision. It's easy to say it's better. I think it depends largely on the situation. All public schools are not created equal. Also, I think there are some advantages to public schools from a social standpoint. I'm sure that could be argued, but I have met quite a few homeschooled kids that were awkward and not very successful as young adults. Like it or not, most people we see on a daily basis went through public schools. In order to be successful, you have to be able to interact well with other people. There are also opportunities that school provides that we could not easily replicate at home.

The financial side of things is also a big part of the equation. If my wife had to stay home to teach our kids, that would be a big hit. We could probably scrape by, but it would greatly limit the things we could do for many years and a lot of those things would impact our children directly (Travel, learning tools and resources, food and medicine quality, etc.) It would also be a huge lifestyle change for my wife. We are already fairly isolated. If she did not get to interact with others at work, I think that would impact her a lot. I also believe a lot of the negatives of public education can be mitigated by good parental involvement. Public schools get a bad rap but in many cases poor parenting is the root cause of the issue. Bottom line is it's a complex decision with no easy answers.
 

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I know I keep saying nothing surprises me but this hits hard. How can a experimental vaccine be required. I have the option of quitting but most healthcare workers don't. I'm just heart sick :(





The Houston Methodist hospital system in Texas will soon require its 26,000 employees get the Covid-19 vaccine, in what a spokeswoman said appears to be the first such move by a large U.S. hospital system.
The development was shared in an email Chief Executive Officer Marc Boom sent to managers on Wednesday. It gave them until mid-April to get “at least one dose of a Covid-19 vaccine or get an approved exemption.” No deadline for all employees was given in the email.
About 95% of management and all executives have received vaccines to date, compared with about 83% of employees, including everyone from doctors and nurses to cafeteria workers, according to Boom’s email. Religious and medical exemptions will be allowed in “very rare cases,” according to a document outlining frequently asked question s that was linked in the email.

“As part of Houston Methodist management, we must lead by example and get vaccinated ourselves,” Boom wrote. “Thank you for getting vaccinated and thank you for leading your staff to make the right decision to help protect our patients.”

Whether to mandate coronavirus shots is a question a broad swathe of employers are grappling with. Houston Methodist’s move comes at a time when experts say it’s not clear whether Covid-19 vaccines can, or should, be mandated. A central issue is that the shots now available have only received emergency-use authorization from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and not a standard approval, a lengthier and more comprehensive process.

Full Approval​

Nancy Foster, the American Hospital Association’s vice president of quality and patient safety policy, said that while hospitals and health systems are recommending vaccines for both their staff and the public, most will likely wait to decide about making it mandatory until the vaccines “receive full approval from the FDA, which has not happened yet.”

Amy Rose, a Houston Methodist spokeswoman, said that employment laws at both the state and federal level allow private institutions to mandate vaccines, and don’t make distinctions around those that have been approved versus authorized on an emergency basis.
It doesn`t take much guesswork as to just WHO will be "allowed" these religious exemptions !!!
 

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JPM Chase will not require employees get vaccinated to return to working in the offices. For the time being anyway.

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one thing no one seems to be asking questions about,

why is it that for polio and smallpox, is it but a jab and away you go,

but with the boo hoo flu, they have to double dose your ass in order for it to be effective,

as they even claim, 2 doses fully protected, and 1 dose as incomplete

figure that out

leaves me kinda with only a couple of options to consider,
-it is not as it appears, far far different, and they are part of it
or
-it is far more insidious than they are letting on, and trying to downplay it, keep a lid on it

as it sure as hell isn't a flu shot
 

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one thing no one seems to be asking questions about,

why is it that for polio and smallpox, is it but a jab and away you go,

but with the boo hoo flu, they have to double dose your ass in order for it to be effective,

as they even claim, 2 doses fully protected, and 1 dose as incomplete

figure that out

leaves me kinda with only a couple of options to consider,
-it is not as it appears, far far different, and they are part of it
or
-it is far more insidious than they are letting on, and trying to downplay it, keep a lid on it

as it sure as hell isn't a flu shot
I doubt it is going to stop at 2 doses. Some talk already about needing a 3rd dose plus yearly boosters.
 

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I struggle some with the home school decision. It's easy to say it's better. I think it depends largely on the situation. All public schools are not created equal. Also, I think there are some advantages to public schools from a social standpoint. I'm sure that could be argued, but I have met quite a few homeschooled kids that were awkward and not very successful as young adults. Like it or not, most people we see on a daily basis went through public schools. In order to be successful, you have to be able to interact well with other people. There are also opportunities that school provides that we could not easily replicate at home.

The financial side of things is also a big part of the equation. If my wife had to stay home to teach our kids, that would be a big hit. We could probably scrape by, but it would greatly limit the things we could do for many years and a lot of those things would impact our children directly (Travel, learning tools and resources, food and medicine quality, etc.) It would also be a huge lifestyle change for my wife. We are already fairly isolated. If she did not get to interact with others at work, I think that would impact her a lot. I also believe a lot of the negatives of public education can be mitigated by good parental involvement. Public schools get a bad rap but in many cases poor parenting is the root cause of the issue. Bottom line is it's a complex decision with no easy answers.
It is a big decision. My 10 year old grandaughter hated online school. I had her most days and it was a struggle. She could not focus or keep up and she started hating school. She is an extroverted, social child and she began getting depressed at the isolation. We never stopped eating out or going places but her friends were locked away. Also not all of us are cut out to be homeschool teachers.

One possibility is if they force the vaccination on the children I can see some good, private , small home schools open that might work. My daughter is on a parent group and many moms are getting very upset about what's going on. We really are not alone.
 

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-it is not as it appears, far far different, and they are part of it
or
-it is far more insidious than they are letting on, and trying to downplay it, keep a lid on it
Who is they? The same people with inside info of 9-11?
 

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My daughter is on a parent group and many moms are getting very upset about what's going on. We really are not alone.
There are a lot of parents at my wife’s school that have been very vocally opposed to masks, lockdowns, and “virtual” learning. It does give me some hope that there will be a large amount of resistance if they try to mandate the vaccine.
 

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Lol...who the fuck walks/runs/hikes/bikes outdoors alone with a mask on? Hint: (rhymes with sleep)
You’d be surprised (not)! I went hiking in the White Mountain National Forest this past weekend with a friend. Probably encountered 100 people on trail, with about 20-25 of them having some sort of face covering. Either on seemingly the whole time or hurriedly applied as we neared each other. Not many more than that, maybe about 40, were prepared for the icy/snowy/slushy conditions above 3000’ or so.
 

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Im looking into private school but Im afraid we will run into vaccination issues at most of them by next year.
If you don't have a job... you could homeschool her.
In order to be successful, you have to be able to interact well with other people. There are also opportunities that school provides that we could not easily replicate at home.
I worked in the schools. What they call 'socialization' is really... how to put it... peer pressure. It's a who's who, of who was popular, or cool, or who is dating who, or who 'puts out', or who was 'frigid', who sells drugs etc. It's adult pressures that kids shouldn't have to deal with and it starts earlier than you think! Oh, and now it's 'gender pronouns' and all that rot.

Texting on social chat sites that go through a school like a virus and are always changing. Bullying online is real and devastating.

The problem with public school is that it will take a year or more to figure out the culture of the school. Your kid will be part of it by then. How else can one learn the 'culture'?? You can't exactly sit in the classroom and 'see it' for yourself, because you are the enemy to the inmates in the asylum....


That said, the most 'normal' adults I have ever met at 16yo were home schooled. "Normal" meaning as an adult one could have a real conversation with them as an adult. There was not smart ass comments, swearing, no 'harrumphing' at parents. They actually liked learning. "Socialization" can happen in many ways. There are museums, like-minded families that get together for events. Dances and concerts to attend.
 

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One of the most surprising things I ever saw were anti-drug signs in a local elementary school. I asked some of the school personel about the signs, because I was so surprised and they informed me they had a real drug problem. In a semi rural elementary school and this was maybe twenty years ago. When I was in elementary school, nobody ever even talked about drugs. There was no talk about them till I hit high school. Drugs, violence, sex at a young age, degraded morals being taught by the teachers, anti-Americanism, anti-white attitudes. If I had children now, I wouldn’t even let them walk past a school.
 

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I passed by the high school on the way home and the guys on the track team were long distance running with masks on. WTF...its 80 degrees out. Like I said its all a bad dream.

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It is a big decision. My 10 year old grandaughter hated online school. I had her most days and it was a struggle. She could not focus or keep up and she started hating school. She is an extroverted, social child and she began getting depressed at the isolation. We never stopped eating out or going places but her friends were locked away. Also not all of us are cut out to be homeschool teachers.

One possibility is if they force the vaccination on the children I can see some good, private , small home schools open that might work. My daughter is on a parent group and many moms are getting very upset about what's going on. We really are not alone.

On the contrary! You are an excellent educator for your grandkids. Most people mistakenly believe education should be done the way public schools teach, but this model of education is detrimental to kids. Its a humanist and very socialist view to isolate kids with only their own age group, place them in rows, demand the meet certain criteria for 'success', and force them into a certain mold for the benefit of corporations.

Education in of itself is exclusive... it's not possible to teach a person absolutely everything they need to know and understand for the duration of their lives. The focus of healthy and whole person education is to empower them to logically and reasonably teach themselves. How to gather information from sources, weigh all viewpoints, means test it against their own personal viewpoints, and decide what is true and right. With the assistance of quality curriculum, real books (no dumbed down twaddle), and a serious study of grammar, logic, and rhetoric; any child can be taught to become a contributing member of society.

And to the awkwardness and social ineptness of homeschool kids... have you seen the shit the public schools are pushing out? I'd take an awkward homeschooled kid over a dumbed down, brainwashed leftist who can't figure anything out without a supervisor any day.


The real question you've gotta ask yourself is very simple.... Do you want to give your kids or grandkids over to your enemies for 8 hours a day 5 days a week for 12 years? What are you going to get back at the end? Is the sacrifice worth it?

I personally said eff no. My son does have issues making friends. The real issue is he has a hard time finding like-minded people he is willing to spend time with. I'm ok with his desire to be choosy who he shares his heart with. It shows a great deal of maturity when a young person refuses to change themselves to accommodate others opinions. Most of us learned that lesson far too late in life.
 

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On the contrary! You are an excellent educator for your grandkids. Most people mistakenly believe education should be done the way public schools teach, but this model of education is detrimental to kids. Its a humanist and very socialist view to isolate kids with only their own age group, place them in rows, demand the meet certain criteria for 'success', and force them into a certain mold for the benefit of corporations.

Education in of itself is exclusive... it's not possible to teach a person absolutely everything they need to know and understand for the duration of their lives. The focus of healthy and whole person education is to empower them to logically and reasonably teach themselves. How to gather information from sources, weigh all viewpoints, means test it against their own personal viewpoints, and decide what is true and right. With the assistance of quality curriculum, real books (no dumbed down twaddle), and a serious study of grammar, logic, and rhetoric; any child can be taught to become a contributing member of society.

And to the awkwardness and social ineptness of homeschool kids... have you seen the shit the public schools are pushing out? I'd take an awkward homeschooled kid over a dumbed down, brainwashed leftist who can't figure anything out without a supervisor any day.


The real question you've gotta ask yourself is very simple.... Do you want to give your kids or grandkids over to your enemies for 8 hours a day 5 days a week for 12 years? What are you going to get back at the end? Is the sacrifice worth it?

I personally said eff no. My son does have issues making friends. The real issue is he has a hard time finding like-minded people he is willing to spend time with. I'm ok with his desire to be choosy who he shares his heart with. It shows a great deal of maturity when a young person refuses to change themselves to accommodate others opinions. Most of us learned that lesson far too late in life.
what program are you using for your son. Perhaps we could do better with a different curriculum than the school provided.
 

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I started him out with a strong leaning toward what's called classical education. I used a program by Susan Wise Bauer. It was a solid combination of grammar, writing, history, and suggested literature. I complimented it with a basic math program called Math Mammoth and a basic science course I let my son choose. As he grew older 7th-8th grade we switched to a program called Memoria Press and began a more strenuous study of classical literature and the sciences. He has done very well with this and I'm very happy with his logic and rhetoric abilities. He really did hate the Latin though.

Edit: Susan Wise Bauer wrote a book you can easily find through the library called The Well Trained Mind: A guide to classical education at home
it was helpful in deciding what education path we wanted to follow.
 

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Apologies to Avalon for the thread derailment...

I worked in the schools. What they call 'socialization' is really... how to put it... peer pressure. It's a who's who, of who was popular, or cool, or who is dating who, or who 'puts out', or who was 'frigid', who sells drugs etc. It's adult pressures that kids shouldn't have to deal with and it starts earlier than you think! Oh, and now it's 'gender pronouns' and all that rot.
Aside from the gender pronouns BS, I have encountered pretty much all of that in the "adult" world. Like it or not, that stuff exists and part of growing up is figuring out who you are and how you deal with those situations. You have to protect your kids to an extent, especially when they are young, but I can't shield them from the world forever. I do think an involved parent can help guide and mentor a child through those difficult situations until they can stand on their own feet. From what I have seen, homeschooled kids have a tough time dealing with the real world on their own once they get outside of mommy and daddy's bubble. Obviously there will be exceptions to this.

The problem with public school is that it will take a year or more to figure out the culture of the school. Your kid will be part of it by then. How else can one learn the 'culture'?? You can't exactly sit in the classroom and 'see it' for yourself, because you are the enemy to the inmates in the asylum....

This would be true for most. This is less of a concern in our situation since my wife teaches at the school.

There are museums, like-minded families that get together for events. Dances and concerts to attend.
Probably true in a larger city. Not as true in a rural area without long drives.

And to the awkwardness and social ineptness of homeschool kids... have you seen the shit the public schools are pushing out? I'd take an awkward homeschooled kid over a dumbed down, brainwashed leftist who can't figure anything out without a supervisor any day.

Contrary to popular belief, not all public schools are run by brainwashed leftist. Conversely, I know several homeschooling families that I would put solidly in the brainwashed leftist category.

The real question you've gotta ask yourself is very simple.... Do you want to give your kids or grandkids over to your enemies for 8 hours a day 5 days a week for 12 years?

This is an often repeated statement I have seen here. While a part of me agrees to an extent, it's just not that simple. Many of the teachers my wife and I know are good hearted, conservative leaning, family oriented people that are trying to do the best job they can for the kids. I have zero concerns about my children learning from them. Perhaps that is not the norm, but you are painting with a broad brush.

The biggest thing that a school can provide is variety of experiences and teachers. If they are homeschooled, they basically just get Mom and Dad's view of everything by default. I don't want that for them. I had good teachers and bad, but learned something from all of them.

I went through the public education system. It had many of the ups and downs associated with adolescence, but overall I think it was the right choice for me. If I had been homeschooled, I know I would be in a very different place in life now. And not necessarily for the better. I would be willing to bet I would not be posting on this forum...
 

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Edit: Susan Wise Bauer wrote a book you can easily find through the library called The Well Trained Mind: A guide to classical education at home
it was helpful in deciding what education path we wanted to follow.

I went to Amazon and read some of the reviews for this book. Sounds like a great book. Many people give it high praise.
 

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On the contrary! You are an excellent educator for your grandkids. Most people mistakenly believe education should be done the way public schools teach, but this model of education is detrimental to kids. Its a humanist and very socialist view to isolate kids with only their own age group, place them in rows, demand the meet certain criteria for 'success', and force them into a certain mold for the benefit of corporations.

Education in of itself is exclusive... it's not possible to teach a person absolutely everything they need to know and understand for the duration of their lives. The focus of healthy and whole person education is to empower them to logically and reasonably teach themselves. How to gather information from sources, weigh all viewpoints, means test it against their own personal viewpoints, and decide what is true and right. With the assistance of quality curriculum, real books (no dumbed down twaddle), and a serious study of grammar, logic, and rhetoric; any child can be taught to become a contributing member of society.

And to the awkwardness and social ineptness of homeschool kids... have you seen the shit the public schools are pushing out? I'd take an awkward homeschooled kid over a dumbed down, brainwashed leftist who can't figure anything out without a supervisor any day.


The real question you've gotta ask yourself is very simple.... Do you want to give your kids or grandkids over to your enemies for 8 hours a day 5 days a week for 12 years? What are you going to get back at the end? Is the sacrifice worth it?

I personally said eff no. My son does have issues making friends. The real issue is he has a hard time finding like-minded people he is willing to spend time with. I'm ok with his desire to be choosy who he shares his heart with. It shows a great deal of maturity when a young person refuses to change themselves to accommodate others opinions. Most of us learned that lesson far too late in life.

Shit, that's my issue. And probably most people here... because people who can still think are getting harder and harder to find.
 

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Apologies to Avalon for the thread derailment...


Aside from the gender pronouns BS, I have encountered pretty much all of that in the "adult" world. Like it or not, that stuff exists and part of growing up is figuring out who you are and how you deal with those situations. You have to protect your kids to an extent, especially when they are young, but I can't shield them from the world forever. I do think an involved parent can help guide and mentor a child through those difficult situations until they can stand on their own feet. From what I have seen, homeschooled kids have a tough time dealing with the real world on their own once they get outside of mommy and daddy's bubble. Obviously there will be exceptions to this.



This would be true for most. This is less of a concern in our situation since my wife teaches at the school.


Probably true in a larger city. Not as true in a rural area without long drives.



Contrary to popular belief, not all public schools are run by brainwashed leftist. Conversely, I know several homeschooling families that I would put solidly in the brainwashed leftist category.



This is an often repeated statement I have seen here. While a part of me agrees to an extent, it's just not that simple. Many of the teachers my wife and I know are good hearted, conservative leaning, family oriented people that are trying to do the best job they can for the kids. I have zero concerns about my children learning from them. Perhaps that is not the norm, but you are painting with a broad brush.

The biggest thing that a school can provide is variety of experiences and teachers. If they are homeschooled, they basically just get Mom and Dad's view of everything by default. I don't want that for them. I had good teachers and bad, but learned something from all of them.

I went through the public education system. It had many of the ups and downs associated with adolescence, but overall I think it was the right choice for me. If I had been homeschooled, I know I would be in a very different place in life now. And not necessarily for the better. I would be willing to bet I would not be posting on this forum...
Glad you have a good level of confidence in the school. My grandson was placed in a college prep school in the 7th grade. I thought that was great until I found out the place is a communist indoctorine center. When I voiced my concern to my daughter, she told me to keep my political views to myself. Eh, the only thing that I can do is not be critical of him. He is very intelligent as all grandkids are and if nothing else I will give him a different perspective on the sly.
 

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He is very intelligent as all grandkids are and if nothing else I will give him a different perspective on the sly.
Aren't teenager students naturally suspicious and defiant against authority? Where the parents are "supposed" to help overcome this "problem", wouldn't it be so easy to agree with the teen and let the cards fall where they may?

"Sam, I have heard that you don't agree with your teachers, and you don't like what they are trying to get you to accept. I want you to know that they know a lot of things that you will find useful when you learn them. But they are wrong in a lot of ways, and it is right that you don't believe them when they start talking bullshit. Yeah, I know you aren't supposed to use that word. But when you know something is a lie, how do you challenge it? With weak words, or stronger words? Anyway, if your teacher complains that you are rejecting their bullshit, I am ready to go there and stand behind you."
 

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Aren't teenager students naturally suspicious and defiant against authority? Where the parents are "supposed" to help overcome this "problem", wouldn't it be so easy to agree with the teen and let the cards fall where they may?

"Sam, I have heard that you don't agree with your teachers, and you don't like what they are trying to get you to accept. I want you to know that they know a lot of things that you will find useful when you learn them. But they are wrong in a lot of ways, and it is right that you don't believe them when they start talking bullshit. Yeah, I know you aren't supposed to use that word. But when you know something is a lie, how do you challenge it? With weak words, or stronger words? Anyway, if your teacher complains that you are rejecting their bullshit, I am ready to go there and stand behind you."
He's not suspicious of it at all and is taking it all in. He has classes on global warming and the evil dreaded critical race theory.
 

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He's not suspicious of it at all and is taking it all in. He has classes on global warming and the evil dreaded critical race theory.
Huh?! A teen student that is NOT against the system?! I confess that I was with the system when I was in HS. I agreed with almost everything they presented. That was then. This is now. (A title of a book, BTW) FWIW, my high school physics class was very useful, learning about units and how to understand joules, calories, and heat of fusion and evaporation.
 

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Huh?! A teen student that is NOT against the system?! I confess that I was with the system when I was in HS. I agreed with almost everything they presented. That was then. This is now. (A title of a book, BTW) FWIW, my high school physics class was very useful, learning about units and how to understand joules, calories, and heat of fusion and evaporation.
He has no problem telling me I'm wrong. That's why I don't talk to him about how I see things differently. At least not at this time in his life. I'd rather not alienate him.
 

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What are you going to do when they require the vax sine for everything?
Incuding driving, shopping, and banking?

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Good news for FL. Hopefully other states will follow. The way I read it, this should also stop schools from being able to require it. Looks like the dems have their panties in a wad over this.

 

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Im looking into private school but Im afraid we will run into vaccination issues at most of them by next year.

some privates dont mind. in texas, the state gov will send you a form to give to any skool giving you vax grief. privates can ignore the letter if they choose, publics MUST take it and leave you alone.

my kid went to private catholic -- i had a small battle with them. i won

kid then went to private baptist - no problem with them
 

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a nurse is suing the hospital in the op. avalon - you might want to alert your people to that. perhaps they'll wait to see how the lawsuit plays out

the legal dept of your employer needs to hear about that lawsuit
 

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a nurse is suing the hospital in the op. avalon - you might want to alert your people to that. perhaps they'll wait to see how the lawsuit plays out

the legal dept of your employer needs to hear about that lawsuit
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